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welcome to the lower show we'll get the real headlines with none of the mersey right here live in washington d.c. now it's able to take a look at how big they were all oil had to play and leading up to the war in libya will analyze the g.o.p. presidential debate from last night and we'll talk to an author who claims that your favorite t.v. shows are all being used by hollywood liberals to shape america in their own leftist image scary i know but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has been devoting their time to instead of covering the real stories.
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you know it's not like there's a whole lot going on in this country to be worried about right now right into recessions taking a double dip we have over nine percent unemployment and that's just the official number that doesn't include all of those discouraged and underemployed workers housing prices continue to fought millions of americans have lost their homes the middle class is disappearing the top one percent of the nation holds forty percent of the wealth we're fighting three wars one of which has now become the longest in american history and we also have to shadow wars going on and thousands of americans have lost their lives in these wars that have no end in sight and serve no purpose to us thousands more have committed suicide once returning home now thousands more are suffering from physical injuries and from p.t.s.d. congress is in a battle over reducing the deficit in which it seems that we may does deep balls on our debt as a nation if they don't make up their minds and all the fence spending remains
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untouched in this budget battle programs that help lower income americans and buy them with heating assistance or help assistance to the young those are being cut so taking all of that into account if you have a chance to sit down with president obama one on one you got to ask him any question do you like. where you start economy war education i know it's a really tough choice so it's a good thing that we have professional journalists in this country who have mastered their craft to do that work for us and curry side with the president in an exclusive one on one interview and she shared tidbits of it with chuck todd this morning on m.s.n. b c and here's what chuck todd wants to know about first to incur it was it was fascinating to hear him talk about everything in particular his first blunt reaction i'd say to congressman anthony weiner's indiscretions let's see if you look at what he told you. will obviously work was highly inappropriate
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i can tell you good if it was me i would resign and i could tell you house democrats relieved to hear the president say the r word resign i was surprised at how much sound he gave you on we you know it was surprising as well to me. not really we were expecting her to your colleague just sat down with the president during the worst economic recession since the great depression and the first thing you ask about is what he thinks of anthony weiner i mean this is just getting out of hand ok let's move on so you gloss over the interview with the president you take the time out to here is opinion on wiener gate and what he reported next. the cia is expected to start sending armed drones to seek al qaeda targets inside yemen according to the washington post through its military all previous covert action in yemen the change is significant because the cia operates under a different legal authority than the military the decision reflects fears of
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a growing political instability in yemen. that kind of a big deal you see we're not officially at war with or in yemen and our military has been illegally hitting the place a drone strikes and bombs for the last couple of years something the media never really asks about now because we want to keep it legally hitting the place the drone strikes the decision has been made to just give that responsibility over the cia so you can expand the entire campaign and there's less publicity about it and so congress doesn't ask any questions and you got thirty seconds of your coverage wiener gate isn't a question from the president but shadow wars being fought on our behalf paid for by our tax dollars and ways without asking anyone not getting congressional approval that isn't. that's what i call a mainstream this. now is move on from one non declared war to another today the house of representatives
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voted on and passed an amendment to the defense appropriations bill to prohibit the use of funds for american military operations in libya and both the war powers resolution now aside from the fact that it's about damn time they did that the sixty day mark was passed two weeks ago it still has to go through the senate and it's probably more of a symbolic show but while congress takes their sweet time let's return to asking why we're in libya to begin with so you wiki leaks state department cable as reported by the washington post has shown us that the relationship between major us oil companies and moammar gadhafi have been souring for a time prior to the beginning of the war rafid wanted tougher contract terms higher payments he pressured the oil companies to influence u.s. policies and even threaten to expel u.s. oil and gas companies from the country and it's a lot of cons glenn greenwald brilliantly pointed out what a coincidence it is that we didn't treat bahrain or syria or yemen were the same intervention on behalf of their people as we've taken off so here to discuss this
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with me is john glasser assistant editor and blogger for antiwar dot com john thanks so much for being here tonight and now of course i think anybody who does real analysis of why we go to war would have said this before obviously you can look at the situation in libya as a set of comparison to bahrain or to syria or to yemen and we know that libya's oil rich country we know that's in our interests but we see something like a wiki leaks cable that shows you know the stuff being written down at the state department about these negotiations about the relationship souring between it off and the oil companies do you think of that as more power of yeah of course i mean i mean you know it's of u.s. policy towards the middle east needs to include oil but we sort of forgot about that with will be. for a while. and now these wiki leaks cables show us that not only was the relationship between u.s. corporations and come down. but. they were the u.s. department had its eyes on a oil deal between an italian company and
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a russian company who both wanted a giant stake in libyan oil and it was going to undercut u.s. efforts to do to do the same and so naturally they had their eyes on it and they were literally plotting ways to prevent the deal from going down and then fast forward a little bit and we were in libya because it was themselves didn't mention anything about war going to war but since the libyan intervention has started that war has been that deal has been abandoned and so i think it's a legitimate question to be asking ourselves you know did the rebel uprising in libya present the obama administration with a perfect opportunity to go in with force and secure their own oil interests in libya as opposed to waiting around and how much money every time talking about that was already invested at least specifically by u.s. oil companies after the sanctions were lifted in two thousand and four i mean it
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wasn't a small chunk there conoco phillips and marathon and others invested on the order of seven hundred or eight hundred million dollars in libya's oil not to mention the fact that after we normalize relations during the bush administration with khadafi we were paying him for nato on a quarter of zero five million dollars a year so yeah there was a giant stakes here you know one of the things too i think that we have to talk about is this isn't the first time that we've seen this happen a lot of people could argue that the war in iraq was. the end of the day i guess it wasn't really the u.s. oil companies that got the biggest stake there but how many other times have we seen this exact situation play out where you won't ever hear a politician allow their flocks of oil come into play it's always hard to pick. because this is actually been the primary driver of u.s. foreign policy for over a century but the most dramatic parallel that i could think of is back in the one nine hundred fifty s. with iran in one nine hundred fifty one the iranian prime minister mohammad most of
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started making calls with nationalization of the oil industry and that was previously dominated by a british oil company but in response to this in one nine hundred fifty three the cia orchestrated a coup overthrew the democratically elected government of iran and then installed the shah who gave us priority in terms of business interests the motivations here are the same namely to use force to get money power and influence and perhaps more importantly to prevent any other what are called global competitors from gaining any gains that we might want to get we want to maintain our germany and we don't want anyone else stepping on our toes it's it's basically ruling the world through force if somebody else was doing this and maybe on a smaller scale we would call it terrorism but since the u.s. is doing its foreign policy you know one of the things that i think we've noticed around a lot of the wake of these cables that came out is the u.s. government essentially doing the bidding of many corporations of private business and we just did a story on this show last week when wiki leaks cables show the in haiti actually
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the u.s. government was intervening to keep the factory wages low so companies like levis and haynes and for the loom could all keep getting their goods produced there so we can all keep buying our cheap jeans you know and i think it makes you start asking a lot of questions obviously the war in libya doesn't have anything to do with americans who at this point the majority of whom do not support the war effort there doesn't do anything to fix our economy and bring jobs into the mix but why do corporations have so much power over the u.s. economy and you know obviously geopolitics plays a role here you mentioned certain deals like the italian and russian deal if they wanted to take out but a lot of this is about businesses and about companies. oh yeah i mean the government is a business unto itself and when other giant interests get involved they have a giant interest themselves in colluding with and doing their bidding. us foreign policy a big leg of it is trying to benefit rents and corporations that we see another big
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leg as i mentioned is to prevent any other global competitors but they work together pretty seriously do you think of that has anything to do with why they're going after waking leaflet with such very yeah obviously i mean it's clear especially since this wiki leaks stuff that the government does not keep things secret for national security they keep things secret to hide them from the population because of the population knows about them to be pretty angry. to protect themselves from their own democratic populations that they keep these things secret so you have it's not a surprise how do you look at this vote by congress or at least by the house of representatives today they just attached it on to the larger defense appropriations bill and i'm just not really sure if that's going to go anywhere if it's going to get passed the senate and could be kind of neutral on this i could be pessimistic but it's a step in the right direction as you said better late than never i suppose but yeah you're right they just attached it to the broader military pro-creation still has still has to be voted upon by the senate still has to be voted upon by the house
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and so you know we should wait and see what would actually take place because in the meantime they've been fighting this war just panicked they haven't been going to congress at all so with this actually in effect they just keep trying from the pentagon's conference for a while it wouldn't be the first time in history however given the fact that this war is sort of very much in the headlines and congress has been putting some pressure despite how much i hate congress some pressure on mr obama boehner today even wrote a sort of strong e-mail letter to president obama to. you know. finds himself within the war powers resolution very very soon so it could come to a head with the next couple of weeks maybe not i don't know oh it's something we saw a lot of the republican candidates or the potential republican candidates saying last night to you at the g.o.p. debate was they were all pretty fervently against what was going on in libya right now but surprisingly i haven't really heard anybody talking about expanding our cia
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drone campaign in yemen and every time that the media happens to report on it so you never hear any legal language as to what world this is allowed to see this is what's amazing to me about the expansion of the drone program in yemen history seems to have presented us with a bit of a controlled experiment we have the libya situation that was had the support of nato had the support of the u.n. was done with the military and then on the other side we have pakistan where there's a secret drone program going on it's headed by the cia by the military there's no accountability. and so over in libya we have the congress actually has some recourse they have actually have some ability to put pressure on the president for some accountability and stop him getting us into all these wars and pakistan that's not the case and pakistan at least you could argue has something to do with the war in afghanistan and obviously since who we're trying to find is located in pakistan or at least along the border region yemen is
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a whole different ball game i got to wrap it up john thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you. all right now let's take a look at the oil situation in libya from another perspective on the ground by her fuels about more than just politics i for one highly sought after an f.f.t. r.t. is very of an option that tells us how the libyan people have adapted to this oil crisis. it may have some of the largest oil reserves on the planet but these days leaders also got some of the longest queues at his pastoral stations the international sanctions imposed on the colonel's regime to not include a few and. the latest targeting tank law is if this practice a few might be used by gadhafi is military forces with roads closed factories at a stop and foreign workers losses gone from the war stricken country is facing its worst energy crisis ever the new reality is ordinarily been drivers now spend vast amounts of time queuing for fuel to months ago this became
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a common thing. in the country people have been lining up to fill up their cars even days like this line is a little different compared to most i guess they should be under this here is limit only a marker is a university students and has volunteered here to help organize the crosses. russian boots which allow individuals thirty five liters a week she believes it's a great idea to have women on the stations. all asian impact women have too many things to do they don't fight each other world queuing and never should change of the year is men are in the room so we're able to serve up to nine hundred cars and the gate subtle enough to look at. this line is along with others are ruben longer petrol still cheaper than water here just a few cents for litter it's just that is often in short supply. if there is no fuel we have to leave our cars and return reentry appears it could be days. women only
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gas stations is one of many innovations supposed to ease people's lives in a country that has but also special problems for ambulances and police cars. that are left but the needle surrounded us but we should move on we try to do our best to help people get by if we give up work i see a lot of those seeking to oust colonel gadhafi may have been hoping the hardships will incite people to rise up against their leader but instead it only seems to be fueling people's hatred towards what they feel is western imperialism. nato damaged our city destroyed our life they told us they want to save the people is that the way to see the people tell me this is just a crime. while the warring sides try to find their way out of months of devastating conflict ordinary people looking for a way to just leave their everyday lives dreaming about times when they. would be
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with a distant memory. tripoli. time for a break when we come back a look at a spanish web site that isn't taking isis seizing their domain lying down and also about the good the bad and ugly for last night's presidential debate with a cat named lookout. it also gives you a story of the six so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's the part of it and realized everything is our. charge. and yet.
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whatever the government says they're going to keep him safe get ready because of the freedom. could the u.s. government finally be up against a challenge here for how u.s. immigrations and customs enforcement has been seizing internet domains all the name of combat that includes foreign websites well it looks like there's one domain that's actually fighting back row who director based in spain has lost a third of its traffic after i seized their entire domain and i don't seem happy about it and fact that rover directors parent company eighty has filed what many think is the first courthouse challenge to quote operation in our sites that's the
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official name but for the project that's responsible for seizing all these domains and it turns out this site is not a bit torrent or a file sharing website it's just a discussion board for the eight hundred sixty five thousand registered users but some users have links to pirated sports streams within the discussion boards so as we told you in the past ice considers just linking to pirated material grounds for overtaking internet domains which is absolutely absurd so eighty is fighting to get those two hundred eight domains back because the company says that it hasn't committed any copyright infringement and in their legal filing eighty seven government has not shown and cannot show if the site ever was used to commit a criminal act much less that it will be in the future by hosting discussion forums and linking to existing material on the internet portal eighty is not committing copyright infringement let alone criminal copyright infringement now the company goes on to explain the us government took it upon themselves to shut down an entire website over you arguably very questionable links there were added to it so you
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know what i really hope this lawsuit actually gains the national attention because road director is right the government continues to arbitrarily shut down for and websites with very little rhyme or reason let alone jurisdiction especially considering the website has been declared legal in spain where it's from now critics in the us have already cited the problems with the way the government categorizes categorizes i'm your link as a reasonable cause to shut down any time. mainzer websites and that would be a domestic site but to do this on a forum that discussion board where it's open to discussion links and images from about everybody and anyone seems to be crossing the line so let's hope this lawsuit will force the government to rein in isis methods of civil seizure and allow the internet to remain a place where people can engage in open discussion of all kinds otherwise a lot of websites can find themselves in the same screwed up situation as the one who directed even if they aren't located here on u.s. soil. well last night we saw seven g.o.p. presidential contenders a face off in a c.n.n.
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debate in new hampshire it was less of a faceoff and more of a love fest centered around the one ugle in this world president obama and his policies obama and the gays in the muslims that is but the majority of the debate did center on the economy and the need to create jobs which for republicans means continuing to lower taxes and getting the government out of the picture you can reach one as far as calling it that oppression and simple and he said that obama has a defeatist and decline is an attitude about our exceptionalism and the prospects for a competitive economic growth but if you're playing a drinking game of the word obama last night something tells me that you got so hammered you just couldn't show up to work this morning let's get into what really stood out and what was completely left out and more importantly what this country would look like if any of the seven it did become the president of the united states joining me to discuss it all is politicos it gave a cat needs to thank so much for being here tonight. oh yes these debates are always entertaining gives us a little glimpse into how these presidential contenders really hold themselves did
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you was there a winner for you a winner or a loser i think the winner was mitt romney because he's the presumptive front runner and this is the guy who ran last time a republican seemed to go with the next guy in line as you mentioned nobody went after the guy i thought he was going to take some hits people are going to throw stones at him for for health care for romney care for his passport thoughts on abortion the old basically gave him a past life he was a winner and joe bachmann pretty. self looked pretty good i think everybody had to admit that what yet really was going after mitt romney at the moment it's all obama obama obama i don't know when they're going to start turning on each other but i think there was a loser last night and you know forgive me if i'm being really really mean but good lord john king was just the worst a moderator of all time and he was so awkward you are you. seeing everybody why do i say that every second. it is keep it moving i want to play that i'm going to give it a little bit go for it jump it don't just have your voice in the background so i can't
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hear of any answer and this is what really got me into a little fun segment let's take a let's take a look at this clip. well those are johnny cash oh that's really tough coke or pepsi coke leno or conan i'm probably one of them black berry or i phone blackberry blackberry it is because for thin crust. so i say you're miles oh spicy guess what the stores are american idol american idol maybe we'll have to have an american idol contest. that would shock me and. it's fun and they've got to give you a little dessert with your broccoli and your state all right we're going to dessert well we're a big debate about this in our editorial meeting this morning where some people thought that it was friday was great it really gave you a look into their personalities which i don't think that coke or pepsi tells you anything about americans personality and another thought it was about distraction considering the economic situation in the country i think they were given
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a better way to do it one word thing i see what they were trying to do conceptually but it sort of fell flat i mean colker pepsi's they gave romney who's known for very calculating they gave him spicy or hot when i mean it was just like home only give us something a little bit more and i think to insert it and for it to go that was a little tacky you but you know c.n.n. was trying and it's early and this is not at all the law and how about defense or medicare that kind of rather a better question and a little bit more to the point but so obviously the economy was issue number one and this is what's on a lot of americans minds right now but i still i was personally a little bit by the fact that i have not until an hour and a half into the debate that they get into any foreign policy questions that you find out surprising at all no because i mean. to give the republicans you know some credit they were just getting that they're receiving the questions right at c.n.n. . question they have to take their questions but usually needs to be i mean they believe domestic issues are going to drive what people care about and what do
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people care about right now more than anything but nine percent unemployment rate the jobless numbers that come out every month and that's the bread and butter issues that they think are going to be listed or now barring a foreign catastrophe that is a couple months before the election sure they completely change the dynamic but usually presidential elections are turned on the economy well one thing i really liked ron paul's answer when they are being asked about whether it's time to take out troops out of afghanistan after all it's been ten years us on the not getting the rest of the candidates all the deferred and said that i would let the generals decide and i think ron paul did a good job of reminding us what being a president is all about let's take a look at that. you know i served five years in the military of had a little experience i've spent a little bit time over the pakistan afghanistan area as well as iran but i wouldn't wait for my journals i'm the commander in chief i make the decisions i tell the generals what to do and i bring them home as quickly as possible and get them on of iraq as well and i wouldn't start
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a war in libya i'd quit bombing yemen and i'd quit bombing pakistan and start taking care of people here at home because we could save hundreds of billions of dollars our national security is not enhanced by our prisons over there we have no purpose there we should learn the lessons of history and the longer we're there the worse things are or are and the more danger we're in as well because our presence there is not making friends let me tell you. i love the cutaway of mitt romney just sort of glaring at me very much as how dare you inject your reason in today's political debate but i will say that i think that the foreign policy component of the republican primary field is changing if you listen what mitt romney said last night about afghanistan he said i think we should try to get troops out as soon as possible that's different than what they've been saying in previous months i think you're seeing more of an. isolationist bring the troops home mentality not as strong as ron paul granted but i think in their answers you did see some nuance
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that. that's that's a change usually it's you know support the troops whatever the generals want we're going to stay in there we're going to win we're going to fight you know we're the united states of america you're not seeing that harsh of a rhetoric as much at least that's what i know my dislike of ron paul these admits hey guess what we're not going to win this actually endangers us because it makes more people hate america when you start bombing in a million countries abroad and it's part of the reason that we're going broke because defense spending is absolutely completely out of whack right now and john thune didn't even ask them about defense spending considering that i'm told me time that they spent on the economy and give ron paul credit for this right he said i'm the president always go to say i defer to the generals you know you go on don't ask don't tell they said well so would you repeal it would you would you bring it back to previous what it was and they said no i go to the generals were the generals want to run on the president i told the generals what to do and that's you know sort of a big debate republican i like that now or do we have time for our religious clipper is that too long you guys. ok i don't think we can fit in or are really just clear
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but obviously we thought a lot of i believe in the right of everybody to practice whatever faith they want and then herman cain being asked about not wanting muslims in the white house and essentially everyone saying why i believe everyone should practice their religion but i think that we should be skeptical of muslims and. even when a whole like mccarthyism was right rand. you know this is a tough issue that herman cain was on the defensive on because he said you know i wouldn't put muslim in my cabinet and sort of retract and say i meant extremist muslim and i think that's going to be you know be key how they separate that out language is very important and there are some slip ups and there are going to be answers it's always interesting to watch and i can't wait for the next one hopefully gary johnson will be in the next one i don't know why c.n.n. didn't put him in this time because he did ron paul definitely shake things up dave thanks so much for being here. we have to take a quick break when we come back it's time for shelling to tell and that is everything you see on television all part of a low.

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