tv [untitled] June 15, 2011 3:00pm-3:30pm PDT
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welcome to the lower show or you'll get the real headlines with none of the mercy are going to live in washington d.c. now today we'll take a look at what a greek default could mean for the u.s. economy also has some startling footage on our t.v. reporter on the ground amidst the protests and the chaos in greece we'll get to the bottom of the f.b.i.'s new guidelines and tell you why they should worry you and we'll speak to atika sparing of the young turks on the economy of sex but first let's take a look at how the worthless mainstream media is proving itself to be today well
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missing all the bigger stories. right here yesterday we gave chuck todd a hard time because in the midst of all the problems facing this country which i will not recount every single one of them right now but if you watch the show on a regular basis you're well aware of the high level of unemployment the housing crisis multiple wars the erosions of your civil liberties and those are just to name a few will see all those things they didn't make chuck's must ask list i'm talking to and curry about her interview with the president and the very first thing we asked about was brock obama's opinion on wiener gate and you know it always rubs you the wrong way just a little bit when you see a journalist getting to interview the president one on one on one particular day and then getting reminded of what she does every other day. with her sister off the market for the middleton is now being called the most eligible bachelor in britain and now reported split from her longtime boyfriend is raising all kinds of eyebrows
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and we see jenna channeling is of buckingham palace this morning janet good morning yes this was no stranger to the spotlight. but it wasn't until the world wedding when she walked behind her sister in that form fitting dress that she gained an international family. yeah that's right she's over the whole interviewing the president think let's just move on to people middleton let's dumb down the american people just a little bit more so we can spend less time having to do any real thinking ourselves you know that's the overall strategy to mainstream media states but can somebody remind me again then why and kerry gets to interview the president because he knows she'll go easy on him because she's so busy studying up on all the latest celebrity and royalty gossip i mean that's just frustrating but anyway let's move on to the story that really took the cake this morning and this n.b.c. had a big announcement to make their investigative team did some serious digging as to why newt gingrich's campaign staff abandoned him and after this long and arduous
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investigation this is what they came up with. every three of you the best you can with new details on the real reason for newt gingrich suddenly could put it here some say it was all about his closest adviser one exam called a campaign rally and couldn't take off early in the mornings because we've heard this the richard pryor of our hair which. could take our campaign insiders say the problem circling around the room with his third wife calista you know publicly supportive wife aides say privately a demanding one. really you do go your precious resources or do an investigation as to why no one wants to work with a man who's trying to become the president and that's what you come up with and i'm not even to get into the obnoxiousness of the whole blame the woman attitude. at least not yet that's later tonight in our show but i just can't help but wonder why they wouldn't do some investigative work on other stories like out about
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representative peter king's second round of hearings that took place today on capitol hill about american muslim radicalization you know it's not like this is a story the media hasn't heard about well the first time around they devoted a lot of time talking about the dangers to society at these hearings. some critics are calling this a straight up which on and congressman king a throwback to joseph mccarthy defenders so when the threat of homegrown terror is real and growing and while the administration worries about the message the hearings themselves are sunday some are asking if congressman king's hearings could have the unintended consequence of increasing the number of radicalized muslims and making them harder to find you know your critics say they may say you're a bigot there is a there's an op ed in the new york times today by a guy named bob herbert who says he's comparing you to tell mccarthy. so what how did all that so many questions so many concerns about the message about islamophobia now zilch because some of the initial hysteria died down but let me
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just give you cue bit of information about the hearing was held today to focus this time was on the threat of muslim american radicalization within american prisons and once again peter king painted this threat as incredibly serious most of the witnesses however admitted that while there have been occurrences and it's worth looking into these cases are very rare in fact twenty ten report by the congressional research service concluded that prisons haven't played a large role in producing homegrown terrorists all the more reason not to have this specific here in. american prisons are dangerous places not only are they overcrowded they are filled with violence and there are recruitment is going on at all levels to the bloods the crips the asian gangs the hispanics gangs the white supremacist organizations as well as to radical islam islam has me and all of that is worth keeping an eye on all of the. it is worth investigating but as a number of lawmakers pointed out at the hearing today there is no need to single out one prison group you see this is
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a larger systemic problem so lives in the media spend a little time dwelling on that and investigating the fact that more people die in the us from gang violence than they do from terrorism and that's the gating why we have the largest incarceration system in the world looking into the money that keeps that prison system alive and that's the getting why we have elected officials who are willing to shut out that larger problem is zero in on one single group and create more distrust i guess that calista gingrich is just so much more fun and that's what they missed today. and there's a debate here in the u.s. about raising the country's debt ceiling but most americans probably could care less about the issue that's not the case if you go to greece the country is close to bankrupt and today members of parliament reschedule another round of austerity measures but some twenty thousand protesters tried to block lawmakers from voting by clashing with riot police r.t. surf earth takes us to the front lines of this protest. the clashes between the
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police on the protesters still they could see some of the path of the city's need to head. building five in the crowd you can see the destruction is being taught alongside flair that was built at a time. people have watching the two most guy going to the game of the police trying to find out that violence still breaking out that we've got still i love the people on the streets he's the next he protests the black with the gas costs and they really don't want anyone still that it's been said that the people who are behind provoking the police of people still beating back on the central state even though you can't take us to things such as privately they turned out to take time to get to a place to start and i said there i go about the economic situation has been happening and i called him they wanted and. so we had a weekend of the protests turned violent so. that you can see the sales happening
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that was quite scary but even that is that still a chaos on the streets the police all over the place we were priceless and had to take out the things that so i could tell you it's not a pleasant experience you absolutely can't upgrade the numbers of people who could . really put. out people. on the street to take a cab to the many many people who really know seesawing people. that's what it's about the money from yes places. you can see right there the police need to get a cut of the that's going to be another monetary got something that happened a. what. was it you think i want to tell nothing that. is so funny so you still coming right into. play but you still coming. ok. our own pastry
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right now it's very hard to tell because. i want to see this you say does not stop any of the feet so i got to find it but. you've got to take out. you got to take out. by god's grace us. now that's a got to go to the last number of these people are actually. growing up like heat of colds and that was he trying to stop us ok. i just got off right. right. they got going up the price was. still flashing out the good but very hard to breathe i love these people who provide good even want to speak. to you but. now for the time being the contrast between the situation on the streets of the u.s. couldn't be more stark from what we just saw in greece which is teetering on the
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edge as we saw from our g. correspondent sara first report the possibility of even more austerity measures in greece in exchange for another round of bailout money causing anger and chaos throughout the country currently some sixteen percent of the greek workforce and forty two percent of fifteen to twenty four year olds are out of work there seems that contagion is spreading as finance minister has made no progress on how to address greece's funding problems we're seeing the prices of portuguese and irish bonds fall fast we see spain's banking system experience a jump and borrowing from the european central bank and you have to start wondering if this is the beginning of a real collapse in europe u.s. politicians meanwhile well they're taking their sweet time debating raising raising the debt ceiling and even toying with the idea of a default because time runs out sooner than we think if greece goes under how does that affect us joining me to discuss this is michael pentode senior economist at euro pacific capital michael thank you so much for joining us tonight. well. thank you for starters i just want to know what your. take is on the situation in greece
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do you think that this is unstoppable do you think that a part is bound to happen. well it'll reach three hundred forty eight billion euros and now sheer is on three hundred sixty. g.b. when you reach that level there's nothing you. thought in the office i mean just on . income from. beijing cut from the reduction you can cut from interest rate the dutch. are shuttering will occur again . and i think a very many of the early ages are not only reach the united states because we're. going for joy in the gasoline us but what i want to what i'm wondering is that i feel like a lot of americans think that the situation in greece what's going on in europe is self far removed from them that it really doesn't concern them but let's say that
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we do see this restructuring we do see these people go on increase what's rattray call down effect going to look like how is that going to affect the u.s. recovery which at this point is already starting to look like it's taking a lapse and going into a double there was a little recovery was completely artificial is generated by blowing up or be inflating of bills and trying to conceive consumption dollar going i gradually and i latest point very clear we increased the publicly traded regime of the us ninety eight percent in the last three years a lot and so. we've got their ten year note to do it regularly do you know it's true we actually share interests that's the kind of interest rate can't united states once he blew. which we are doing. why i'm curious about that because some economists thought argue and we'll get back
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to the stuff. an answer rather question but that's an argument economists argue including ariel roubini that it actually could be good for the u.s. if we start seeing so much trouble in europe in japan because then investors will undoubtedly flock to whatever they still think is the safer save bet out there which are u.s. treasury bonds but do you think of that is sustainable or could there be a bubble going on this is the biggest gold. i mean initiation in this country is three point. go ahead with your jet way to bay point two percent. so you know later we'll just ration this country he said you know what you're. going to give us. by supply. and you'll be a shape issue asian style and. only then with
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a load of fresh deflationary depression that's not very good as either oh my goodness your question to ask the question again. yes i definitely prefer it if you did so since we're talking about greece i just think of this is something that most americans don't make the connection that the european economy has an effect on the u.s. economy so if we do in fact see greece tumble then what happens to america how does that trickle down to us or will be yet it is owned by greek banks. ninety six percent is owned by europeans so if you reach the euro began to wonder if the european banks will wonder that you. and i did before your. life in china is rapidly gratian. raising interest rates and the little slowing down the summer season existence in mind i think. well so let's say the
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bad situation does actually happen right greece goes down that european banks then go down do you think that american politicians are still going to be twiddling their thumbs and playing around with the idea of not raising our debt ceiling ok so i mean i don't know you know a lot of your question. what gets you and praised. to questions right great right. that. i had sort of the. issue is raised ten. michel i'm not a believer their actions via debt ceiling because i think that it just becomes a political game that politicians get to play. but at the moment that's exactly what they're doing and they're holding the entire economy hostage so do you think if they can still hold it hostage if greece or a greece and europe go down. what will you say hostage. that says that u.s. troops only borrow. one three trillion dollars in debt or is supposed to be a joke surely which means it's also representing each other. and i assume that you
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let it eat dog reason you still actually point she truly. going to be supporting sikander billion interesting it so there isn't going to be at the floor of the day to read very. well syria highly educated and that's something you desperately need to lead us. to ravish coming to this through your relation your. wireless router you think we would actually see that same scenario play out here in the united states where we've seen an increase we've seen a in the u.k. we think americans would be rioting marching on those three it's going up to protest at the capitol building rowboat. to sixty six i'm stuck sure it's just because. if we really are scary year if we are places we are right and we are all great research interest rates will spike you
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live. eight concerts at dead and you have a severe crisis just like the one you are used really sure you know merkel and the iron does not. cause the united states to lessen certainly i would say to this country that i love dearly is doing everything you can right now just to set. up. as soon as you can all the more reason we're covering a story and telling americans to look over what's going on in greece the poor make up here mike i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight. now there's still much more to come on tonight's show the week of a grand jury is underway in alexandria virginia we'll tell you who was subpoenaed to appear today and the updated f.b.i. manual gives their agents a lot more leeway when it comes to conducting an investigation but is given too much on check power when it comes to investigating you will be right back with back . into it only when there was
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a mechanism to do the work to bring justice accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story of the seem so sleep you think you understand it and then he slips something else here's some other part of it and realized everything is ok and. i'm sorry because if it should. say. let's not forget that we had an apartheid.
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today that we can the grand jury meets again in alexandria virginia with several people who have now been subpoenaed from boston massachusetts in attendance now one of these people is a frequent guest on our show he's also a co-founder of the bradley manning support network hey that house when we spoke to house just last week he couldn't comment not comment much on the subpoenas that were issued in the boston area but that a new details are coming out house amongst other people in boston traveled to alexandria to answer a line of questions from the grand jury which is secretly determining if we can leaks act that in violation of the espionage act however people aren't taking this opaque actions of a grand jury lying down to their currently protests underway in boston and outside of the courthouse in alexandria over the way in which the government is treated they would house a vocal bradley manning supporter as we told you in the past houses one of the few people who was able to visit bradley manning although he was detained at quantico
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and he's one of the few who openly spoke out about his inhumane treatment while being held there coincidentally house was also subject to several searches and seizures when he was crossing the border oh man security and border control agents took his laptop at an airport without providing a valid reason and repeatedly subjected him to random questioning about his involvement with wiki leaks and this is what house told me when i interviewed him on june sixth it's important to note that the u.s. government has not been legislated in the authority to claim devices but the order they have claimed this is already on the road they said right we're the government and we can take it up the border there's very little legal precedent for this. and we hope this piece will outline of the u.s. government should actually you know warrant before seizing any devices from any person troubled across the border. wow what a shocker the government overstepped their bounds or once again and he was doing his knowledge base from the headlines it's clear the government is pursuing its campaign against wiki leaks as vigorously as ever so is it just beginning we cover
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the outcry the government's witch hunt against wiki leaks month after month while details surrounding today's events remain hush hush but continue to uncover what we can so that you can get the full story of the obama administration's war against not only wiki leaks but everyone that they feel might be involved with them. now just the other day we told you that the f.b.i. has new guidelines they'll soon be issuing as reported by the new york times the loosening of the rules of the f.b.i.'s general counsel is described as a fine tuning or rather the major changes but isn't really the changes include allowing agents to search a group or person proactively without having to make any records of it allowing them to tell people more than once during a proactive assessment searching people's trash to find a potential informant and spending up to five meetings with a group undercover eliminating extra supervision of investigations of politicians or journalists if they are witnesses or not suspects and eliminating any protections for low profile blogs so let's get to the bottom of why these changes
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matter here to discuss this with me is julian sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute thanks so much for being here tonight was a pleasure first starters in the f.b.i. just some of their guidelines about three years ago i mean has there been something drastic that's happened has necessitated them loosening them again no you wouldn't think that was arguably the more substantial revision of the guidelines on your attorney general mukasey. bundled together and we shuffled a bunch of categories of investigation again from eating much more proactive and as they put it it's i'm. enabling you just have greater flexibility and proactively trying to ferret out national security threats and you know this is great we've changed it and. now we have all the flexibility we need to. national security threats before they become a problem now it turns out according to f.b.i. general counsel probably those radically loose rules are now too cumbersome now
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the idea that they have to open an assessment without any kind of factual basis to make a record in a database in some cases maybe ask a supervisor that is is too much and this is really huge problem when you consider the track record of the f.b.i. is. revealed by a series of inspector general investigation was that found that again and again surveillance powers were misused when there wasn't any kind of paper trail when people didn't have to worry that their misuse of authority was going to be uncovered and that indeed when they tried to institute supervisors tried to institute recordkeeping the agent said no it's too cumbersome they said the same thing it's too cumbersome we don't want to do all this paperwork turned out to be that they i think suspected that they were misusing the law that they were circumventing the checks that were put in place to limit that authority and so now the inspector general told told us we can't actually say with any great precision
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how many people's records were seized you know how how serious the abuses were because the record keeping was not great but now more searches more prying into records without even a paper trail so that when something you know not if when really someone in the f.b.i. decides to misuse their authority. again i mean it's absolutely ridiculous to me that the fact that it's just who covers them when it happened after somebody were to write it down and i can only imagine how far these abuses will go because then you know they're going to start looking up their neighbors or somebody they just don't lie like you know it really becomes a very slippery slope let's talk about some of the other. guidelines here if they're changing the fact that now they can rifle through someone's trash if they're thinking about having them be an informant and then they can i guess use whatever they find in your trash or against you to convince you to be an informant that sounds like blackmail to me where you get is you know sure they would say it's encouragement to cooperate by you know you know trash is usually not protected by
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the fourth amendment but still you know the idea is that these guidelines were put in place you originally f.b.i. guidelines are put in place in the late seventy's after we learned the f.b.i. was able without necessarily violating the law to amass and wellness dossiers on. peaceful political dissidents you know i think you're infiltration or through posing as you know a fellow traveler and the guidelines were supposed to put an end to that and i think we've forgotten maybe why those guidelines wouldn't play in place else and we were seeing right now you know a lot of pieces are anti-war activists in this country that are out there complaining because it turns out that they have all been being investigated by the f.b.i. that they are being tailed and they're trying to actually do something about it soon so we have a perfect example of where there can be an abuse of these powers and who they can be going after you know another thing i want to talk about to you is you said maybe this is just a clarification when they talk about the fact that if a journalist or a politician is part of investigation and they were just
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a witness then apparently you also don't need to really ask your supervisors about that what does that mean for journalists and for their sources for protecting their sources well this is a million is a little bit different media here is that if you're investigating a journalist you need to you know sort of have a higher level for you to make sure that you're not doing something that runs afoul of the first amendment and that this is not the kind of thing you have to worry about if you use a journalist is going to victim of a crime that you don't need to sign off to talk to the journalist you know in order to help them get it hardly i don't everyone is considered a journalist right because low profile but blogs there are low level blogs what does not even really need to get this is actually like this is i think actually a genuinely thorny problem because there's you know there's a good reason to say. you know we do want some kind of level of special approval so that when the very sensitive. investigations are or rubbing up against the first time and on the other hand and a world where everyone can start
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a blog as you know as easily as possible you want to be a situation where everyone who ever opened a blog spot account ever in their life is now subject to the same kind of approval on the news or dilute the effect of having this idea that there are certain cases you look at a little more closely so i understand that that i'm that makes sense to me that valve is a problem. lastly i just want to ask you because of course that because general counsel said that these are just tweak this is just my own tunings are any major changes and so we don't need to ask anybody for permission only change these guidelines as long as they fall and you know with the broader guidelines given by the attorney general those must be really really really broad guidelines that this is the case you know what i mean there's an incredible shell game that's played here every time the f.b.i. goes before congress to ask for a new legal authority new surveillance powers they're always stressed but we have these incredibly powerful internal guidelines you don't have to worry about giving us broad powers because you know these guidelines will make sure that there are checks and balances and no one is able to use the power use the enormous amount of information we've collected and it's available and you know all these digital
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aggregators of government contracts with for improper reasons and then when it comes time to revise the guidelines well look it's just our internal guidelines you know we're not getting new powers we're just changing the guidelines and so the as you know they can't do anything wrong they also just don't have to leave any paper trail and it's pretty disturbing but thanks for clearing up some of that for us. so to come tonight you said it i read it i respond to your comments that you left on line and can you put a value on that and has the value of the grief of more people becoming sexually active in today's society the subject of a new book and all of the traffic into thinking that. you know somebody should see the story and see so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of this you realize that everything you say you don't. charge is a big.
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