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do you hold me to you to hold mr campbell was the thought of seeing this letter scorning this the obama already. good response aboard well that may be how some feel but will any of those men really be responsible for the civilian deaths in libya. and a man who's been against the war all along has just won another political contest so why is ron paul still seen as a fringe candidate especially since nearly three quarters of likely u.s. voters seem to agree with him. and our t.v. words are asking the questions from the rise of the missouri river to
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a no fly zone they have every reason to be suspicious about four council nuclear power stations so what's really going on here. it's monday june twentieth four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for is out here watching our team her top story today u.s. involvement in foreign wars and the fact that while these decisions continue to be made from the top and overwhelming majority of americans are unhappy about it all conducted last week by the polls opinion research found that seventy two percent of voters believe the united states is involved in too many foreign conflicts and should pull back its troops seventy two percent that's with sixteen percent saying the level of engagement was appropriate and twelve percent not sure. certainly frustration is growing as u.s.
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and nato forces continue involvement in libya with the most recent news that at least nine civilians were killed in a bungled air strike in tripoli r.t. correspondent. you know she is in tripoli and has this report to show. that her his extended family used to be one of the biggest in the neighborhood and native tribes in his father one of his brothers a sister and her own family mohammed shows us a picture of little jumana his niece taken on his mobile phone just days before he pulled her dead body from under the tree. and i woke up when i heard explosion he said the roof fell on me i ran immediately see how my family is and many of the dead my mother survived another brother is in a coma and we don't know when or if he will recover but how does that not reach they've been living in this agreement district in tripoli it's home to many other regime complete most from one family this is just a regular city
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a quarter quite densely populated built up area this is what used to be there had his house but three story buildings are reduced in ruins in just moments after being hit in a missile strike a man who has brother who survived says they will never forgive or forget what nato has done to them destroying their lives and homes that they should take responsibility for their wrongdoing and nato has responded with an apology. intended target during last night's airstrike in tripoli was a military missile site however from our initial assessment of the facts it appears that one weapon did not strike the intended target or weapons systems failure. oh though officials in tripoli claim more than eight hundred civilians have died in nato raids the nine people they say were killed in sunday's bombardment of the city have become the first civilian casualty is officially acknowledged by the alliance
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only on saturday nato has also admitted and not a mistake in a strike this time on rebel forces need to leave in all pools of bread with a number of casualties not disclosed we were all nato in the hole because the camera was the ghazi this guy the better scorning mr obama had already and he did this possible for the death of these innocent children innocent boy and girl and innocent fathers and mothers you cannot justify this that dichotomy this was that incident and sunday's fatal error occurs in the the rising concerns within nato about his operation in northern africa only eight out of its twenty eight members have joined the mission to protect civilians in libya which raises the question how many would support one to kill them ration option or r.t. tripoli. let me of course simply the most recent effort there are also currently
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about one hundred thousand u.s. troops in afghanistan and fifty thousand in iraq not to mention the more under the radar efforts going on right now in yemen and pakistan so this is people the human costs i don't even want to start with the financial cost to this country i jailbird so here he is in our t.v. longer and also a military analyst and of course take you also a veteran now at the beginning of the show we showed a poll that showed that seventy two percent of americans of likely voters think that the u.s. is involved in too many efforts abroad and should start removing troops as a veteran how does this make you feel to know that you've served the country a lot of people you still know still in touch with are out there serving out right now what does this say to you shows that the american people are tired of war and we saw secretary gates is so yes true that nobody's more tired of war than the military families in the veterans that have served here but now it's showing that what we've all been saying for a long period of time since two thousand and seven after the iraq war two dozen if
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the iraq surge was done but the american people are catching on board what we've been saying which was it's time to bring these open ended work to it and i'm wondering you know why the disconnect here we think about president obama back when he was candidate obama and his primary challenger in his party was hillary clinton and his one thing before it was dogs in the economy before that became a major issue before the financial collapse it was the war and time and time again he faltered her for voting for the war in iraq and a lot of people speculate that that's why he came out ahead. it's a good as good as i think you're right so let's talk about that difference between candidate obama and now president obama who has said he wants to speed up the withdrawal of troops in afghanistan but all we've seen so far in afghanistan is a surge of troops there so there's a lot of talk and a little action here and now we have proof that americans want more action you know what i better be careful not to support president obama here drill now dead. really
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but a big fan i think that there's a couple things that we do did see with president obama that afghanistan was virtually neglected once the bush administration chose to go inside of iraq and as a result of that the obama administration tripled down first with i think ten thousand and seventeen then thirty thousand more troops as a result of that people can debate what they want but nonetheless there needed to be attention given to afghanistan because there is nothing done since two thousand and two virtually the same strategy when the strategy chose was bad the policy chosen the policy advisors he brought around him i thought was was a very bad decision counterinsurgency in nation building and all of that and as a result of this reckless decision i think by president obama now we see we're spending somewhere between ten million dollars an hour we've got five thousand americans killed as a result the war in god knows about a million iraqis and afghans the americans have had enough but jake you know this is america we have a democracy here we have a system in place in which the will of the people is supposed to be demonstrated by
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those officials that they elect into office clearly this paul and what we're starting to see with a lot of the dialogue coming out showing that that's just not happening why do you think that those you know we just take a look at the pentagon take a look at the spending that is given the money that's given to these wars that is certainly not in can grow with what americans are feeling why well we start with obama first we had the bank bailouts followed up from the bush administration an unpaid for tax liabilities that the bush administration is now now we've got the military spending and by what it would the american people are most of influence by in the polls is finances they want they want money in their pocketbook americans want to work they want their houses they want freedom they want their own identity they don't want the government to be taking everything and giving it to afghanistan or iraq or in some some blood. liberal minded people think that we're doing is
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actually occupying and killing a lot of innocent people over there so we certainly certainly americans in general don't want to be killing innocent people in america's don't want their tax dollars given or taken from them so that's why it's pretty interesting to just if we think about what we've seen over the weekend in terms of from the lawmakers and politicians kind of taking different stances than we're used to in terms of the hock position in the gulf position president obama as you've already seen sort of seem thin its hawkish continuing to you know the surge in afghanistan the involvement at all in libya that he's in favor of and then we have on people like lindsey graham who i never thought i'd say this. you know now now time post two thousand election john mccain saying obama's right to be involved in libya and yet then we also have a lot of republicans coming out saying wait a minute he think it congressional approval we should think about this to talk about this this redefinition of you know the hawks versus out and no longer a blue and red issue well that's what i used to think about john mccain he has
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turned into a whack a doodle his he is so old and senile the man really needs to be brought to a nursing home and provided care for he has whatever john mccain says is so irrelevant he's so removed from the troops as like this rhetoric i support the troops it's a bunch of nonsense but really what's going on within the discontent is what general bruce palmer said after vietnam and that was general bruce promise that the american people will not stand for an ambiguous war of an unpredictable nature and which it does not and favor old suitable to united states this is something we heard forty years ago now so the american people that's where they're out we've got guys like mccain and lindsey graham who get a lot of money from defense contractors they get a crap load of support from pro-war military organizations and as a result they get to get on t.v. and do they really care about the troops you know john mccain. does not care about
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the u.s. military is the largest so you goes god bless him for his military service but he does not care in the least bit what's going on r.t. blogger a military analyst takes over going to keep you here a little longer and as we move on turn next story of course the question of the u.s. led war effort is one that frequently comes up on the campaign trail now over the weekend many of the republican candidates gathered in new orleans for the republican leadership conference to talk about their ideas for how to move this country forward now among them congressman ron paul the only candidate who has said from day one of the u.s. should not be involved in any of the world for its we should withdraw our troops and the money from iraq afghanistan and libya now one time this was an idea that was considered radical on the fringe but it's one that must be registering more and more turns out ron paul at this event he won the straw poll there he was there any case it was barely a contest he had a six hundred twelve votes the next in line was jon huntsman who scored three
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hundred eighty two of course perceived front runner mitt romney well he got just seventy four votes ron paul in an interview this morning on this day show says he has no idea about why he has so much support especially from the young people. it's analysts undeclared unwinnable wars dumped on the young people and also the financial crisis that we have related to the foreign policy and we're dumping that debt on the young people and that's why the next generation the current young people between the age of fifteen and twenty five or thirty they're with me because they're getting dumped on and that to me is the big issue but i want to bring back into this conversation we're talking about ron paul six hundred twelve votes almost double what the next person in line jon huntsman got at this straw poll it is just a struggle but let's not forget this isn't the only straw poll that ron paul has won this you go to run already such a charismatic guy
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a young people are flocking to him hundreds of thousands of people across america are running into the ron paul camps you asked why well why did he get twice the number of votes because americans are looking for fresh ideas they're tired of hearing god bless america they're tired of hearing about socialism they really want the idea of freedom and liberty to come apart through a lot of smaller government and that's why he's growing support the people supporting him largely as he said our young people ages. fifteen to thirty five is general support based largely and that's about twenty five percent of the population for twenty five percent of the voting bloc in the united states people say ron paul can't win i actually think he can and it's not just people when you turn on the television on a lot of these cable networks a lot of these people don't consider him a front runner despite things like the sample let's take a look i think we have some clips. romney fares the best of the current republican
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presidential candidates romney remains the front runner and a stablished republican choice forty two percent say romney is the best match up against president obama the rest of the field isn't even close right now romney and is not exciting anybody and nobody else in the field appears poised to challenge romney romney's way out of forty three with thought a level he'll probably hold that throughout he won't matter but he'll hold it. he won't matter says chris matthews venison is the why does this seem to be the general consensus among so many cable networks he won't matter he's a friend can it still to this day for two reasons that most of the mainstream media and a lot of the establishment kind of political folks are invested in establishment candidates ron paul is not a serious stablished really he's been there a long time but he's libertarian minded so give those but his to something straight ok mitt romney is like watching a monkey screw a football like he's absolutely horrible you have romney care and then he
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criticized obama for doing the exact same thing romney says in march i don't want to stay there here's their grover he says low les paul we do need to get out of afghanistan i mean this guy is the biggest joke on the republican ticket and polls barkman and kate are no better the only person the only two people on the on the on the i'm not quite four and i think that have anything of substance to offer would be huntsman and ron paul and no wonder they just polled the highest it's pretty interesting though i mean you mention is that romney romney romney and these are actually polls that are taken on the one that was shown the n.b.c. wall street journal poll whoever they're polling it obviously different than people voting in the straw poll but the you know their son consistency to that in terms of people voting for who they would vote for but you're right mitt romney has a record of being a flip flopper let's talk about this with ron paul that i mean he has consistently said the same thing but something's changed talk to me about what you think is change in terms of these ideas these smaller government we had the tea party which was born of the concepts you know get pulled the troops out last war why do you
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think that this is becoming more accepted. again it's one of the first part we have in this new segment where we talk about what matters most the american public would better as most american public is money bottom line it's money wars cost a lot of money high taxes cost a lot of money when you have high taxes you have wars the republic the the the the people on the average. grassroots they're the ones that have to pay for that and they're tired of doing it the big ten years longest war history he's the only candidate up there that said yeah it's time to end this these shenanigans but take it let's be honest i mean i've got to bring it up this is brought up i think this morning in the interview on n.b.c. that ron paul did a lot of these ideas people can jump on board with but when you talk about getting government out and you talk about really really cutting back the involvement of government that also includes a lot of social programs and when you have a candidate getting out there and saying the government shouldn't make laws about drug use we're not just talking about marijuana i was talking about heroin that is
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resonate with people you know it doesn't but i criticize i was i was on a program at a versus a man a few weeks back and and i and this network and i talked about how ron paul supporters have a lot they've got a lot to learn in supporting the legalization of marijuana heroin is not a winning issue ending wars and lowering taxes is a winning issue and that's what they should stay focused on not into. carolyn and cheney and against one fence or last what's it going to take for ron paul to be not considered a fringe candidate by and install media. start watching r t r i found advice found here r.c. blogger and military analyst. so as ron paul consistent anti-war message against traction is the changing tide of u.s. foreign policy quickly winning over followers here at home or her friends of the resident took to the streets. and now.
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u.s. troops are in iraq and afghanistan and libya and syria are not enough and what are they going to be enough united states of america this week let's talk about that we think about. the americans as being. the world police. good or bad. i don't know but troops there if there is something you want to grow your resources. security or resource. for example with mcdonald's we're number one in the world. the world we can still do it even the. best. we can do it why is that so important to be number one. has to be one of the one. yes i don't think there's any altieri motive. no oil interest no economic interest.
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what do we want to accomplish. just. to waste the money and the lives of young people you know that you think is maybe another reason that we're doing it of course they want reason all you or. i don't think it's logical i. think there's a big disconnect between what governments are thinking and what they think we want and what we're letting them know that we once. had maybe our priorities aren't the same so you have all these countries and the men. at least where the people are standing up against their government people in the u.s. standing up against their government thank you a bring our troops home i don't think that one day that will have been you know there was an arab spring may be good america will have its own spring no matter how you feel about the imperialism of the united states the bottom line and let's be that it's not going to die anytime soon.
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i want to switch gears now and talk about an issue that a few of you our viewers have been asking us to shed some light on an issue that many news organizations are talking about at all and this time it involves the fort calhoun nuclear plant in nebraska two weeks ago there was a fire inside the plant that at the time knocked out the cooling system and certain parts of visuals there say it was restored within about ninety minutes but now there is cause for new concern take a look this is the rising missouri river it has flooded the area and experts including the power company says that high volumes of water could pose a threat to the electric system has been an ongoing no fly zone here as well but officials say it has nothing to do with potential radiation that could be seen released from the plant in fact they say everything at the plants is just fine now this situation may not be the same about what we've been seeing unfolding at the fukushima nuclear plant in japan but your remember there as well several attempts
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by the government and officials to downplay the threat to say everything was going to be fine which we now know just wasn't true so the point is we should talk about it there is reason enough to be suspicious going to be now is tyson slocum director of the public systems and program and says let's talk about this what we're seeing in fort calhoun the flooding around the nuclear plant how much of a danger does this pose would clearly pose a risk because the nuclear regulatory commission which is the agency that regulates or hundred forty. states raised the level of concern level for this plant to almost to a critical level so it's clear that regulators in washington d.c. are concerned enough to raise the level of concern but the bottom line here is that the lack of public information about our nuclear power plants particularly after september eleventh two thousand and one it was designed to keep critical
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information about vulnerable energy infrastructure like nuclear power plants away from terrorism but what it's done is keep this critical information away from us so that we the public law makers and journalists don't have quick easy independent access to important information about the operations and concerns about these plants and so part of the. problem with this situation has been the lack of clarity in some of the public statements by the operator of a nuclear power plant and by federal officials and so getting more independent access i think is going to be critical but we do have the new information in fact a report just released today by the associated press it was the culmination of a year long investigation found that there is a pretty tight constantly close relationship and i bark between the nuclear regulatory commission and a lot of these power companies and the nuclear energy field in the united states
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basically what this show this report it was a very in-depth report it showed that when you have things like you know leaky valve clogs up pipes we can radiation instead of the nuclear regulatory commission saying all right we need to figure out how to fix this they say you know what. the rules and regulations they were just too conservative for us so let's loose in that make them a little more lax this to me is frightening oh yeah absolutely and public citizen has raised these concerns along with some members of congress like representative ed markey who's on the house energy and commerce committee he's been trying to get more information about the lack of. toughness by the nuclear regulatory commission on the domestic nuclear industry particularly in weight in light of what's happened in japan now in october the nuclear regulatory commission actually cited this nebraska power plant for not having adequate safety and security measures to deal with flooding from the missouri river and they put the
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nuclear power plant on watch on notice essentially the plant has allegedly come into compliance with those findings but the fact is that the rising floodwaters do pose a risk and from a bigger picture scenario here it does raise the issue of whether or not nuclear power is viable going forward there are a number of arrests and the obama administration is committed significant taxpayer resources to build a new generation of nuclear power plants and the question is is this an affordable route are there more cost effective less risky alternatives like renewable energy and energy efficiency that might be able to meet our energy needs going for you talk about this new generation of building new plants i think it's really interesting and tell me if i'm oversimplifying it so much but these plants most of these plants were built back in the sixty's and they were built being able to last forty years under the idea that most of them would probably be upgraded renovated
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or totally remodeled longer for forty years well now it's been more than fifty years and a lot of them continue to get their permits renewed so this is what i think you know you have a car and you have a bad part on the car you either get it replaced or you get a new car and. that's just not happening here that's right and this particular plant that's threatened by the flood waters in the brusca it was built in one nine hundred seventy three and you're absolutely right your point that these are very complex systems there's a number of critical. components and as those components age the risks get higher and higher and so the question is from a safety and security standpoint does it make sense to start to phase out these aging reactors and the price tag for new reactors is now ten billion dollars or more and the question to american taxpayers should be should we subsidize these or should we think about some of the emerging technologies like wind and solar energy efficiency that present thora less risk but but arguably greater return for the
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public and you have officials coming out here and thing is you even have leaders of major countries like germany coming out and thing with but the fact is that doesn't seem very likely in the united states for various reasons between the different lobbying groups between the power of the nuclear industry what needs to happen does fukushima need to happen here what needs to happen in order to sort of change the entire type of thinking here in this country i definitely want a nuclear accident in united states or anywhere else and so i hope that it doesn't take an accident for us to recognise the huge risks and costs associated with nuclear power i think it's evident just looking at the situation we don't have a solution for the high level radioactive waste it's true that this calhoun reactor to waste to store it in is stored in dry cask in dry casks don't need as much water as the plants did in japan but the fact is that when we've got cost effective alternatives like wind and solar available when we have an optimized energy
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efficiency why are we continuing to pursue expensive and risky nuclear power certainly an important question tyson slocum director of public citizen's energy program and it's fort calhoun officials continue to assure the public that there are no issues there there's proof otherwise. small problems can explode into bigger ones let's talk about for example our japanese officials have now admitted they weren't prepared are to ch'an thomas went outside the exclusion zone where locals are extremely concerned about high radiation levels where i the ominous and constant taking of geiger counters scientists working in fukushima city concerned. some of the i'm in charge of a group of radiation detection and surveyed from fukushima university where now thinking a very key asian protocol and process set up by the japanese government is not enough and myself i think i should evacuate from this area but because of my job at the university i can't my family and my friends' families are of
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a creative. officially fukushima city is in a safe area eighty kilometers from the danger point reactor one and a full sixty kilometers outside the band danger zone but still relation levels here are much higher than normal. just to give you an idea of the consistency right now the background is really quite chilling nine micro records with about thirty times what is more of them accepted level but the problem here is that we're just sort of in the mud but like a regular quickly it's still climbing earlier we've got a really good night in garlic. which is about a thousand times more than was the accepted level of really meaningful. but in order to claim that fukushima is truly safe from leaking radiation the japanese government has had to be creative with the numbers but the government. changed the resolution countless times stand at the levels from one.
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to twenty million twenty times. the standards before the accident and now. they raise the. standards so that they can say it's safe but actually the standard has changed the new higher levels mean that fukushima can be classed as being outside of the exclusion zone some say that evacuating the city would be simply impractical given the huge numbers of people affected to try and mitigate the circumstances to some degree a group of scientists have teamed up to find simple ways to reduce the radiation levels. we're just trying to do a pilot project do the decontamination work by ourselves and we are not using especially when we just use normal charles. score scoops.

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