the capital punishment trying to. get up some love to see a story and it seems so if you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. of. the world we are broke. and yet. fuck fuck. fuck fuck.

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all right it's time for you said it i read it take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube because when you say something i do listen now first i want respond to john smith he commented about our interview with a whistleblower who is asking for obama to return his government transparency award and john smith said on facebook can obama's transparency ward be any more irrelevant and so is taking a back obama setting journalist to chasing their own tails with pursuit of this silly stuff a nation's bankrupt for military spending and you focus however briefly on the gross injustice of a transparency award how silly can you be now john surely you understand that i don't think that obama is being given a transparency award in itself is something that's important or groundbreaking nor would taking it back be what i do think is important is that people within washington d.c.

are so willfully blind to the lack of transparency in the obama administration that they actually have the audacity to give obama a warrant for something these failed miserably on it's just another example of washington d.c. corruption interest groups in this case public advocacy groups having each other on the back and laughing all the american people are kept in the dark and part of the reason why this nation is bankrupt with military spending is that government lies and misrepresents the truth so the people just don't see what's going on around the world so john i think that it is important to talk about i think the fact of the obama administration has failed miserably in its promise to be open and transparent with the american people is important to talk about and i think the american people deserve to know the truth about what their government is doing and not just in terms of military spending everything especially considering how many of our constitutional rights are regularly being trampled on in secret and i want to respond to doug fresh who said in response to our interview on the legality of the war in libya on facebook what difference does it make arguing over its legality

they successfully deployed military forces or obtaining funding through a channel of the congress will not be able. ok doug i understand your frustration and i feel it too but just because the executive branch has been increased spending its powers steadily over the past several decades does not mean we are to sit by quietly and let it happen for a country built on laws as long as our politicians claim to abide by their rule but simply ignore the ones that just don't fit their policy agenda and hope the american people don't notice i'm going to call them out for it so i will continue to point out the war currently being waged on behalf of the american people is illegal and hope that more americans to stand up to do the same guy harvey responded to my fireside friday on the war in libya by saying if you'd like ninety five degrees fahrenheit outside wouldn't be more appropriate and yeah you're right there would be in fact we're actually going to look into that as long as i have somebody to bring me tropical cocktails oh i pontificate and i'm going to have more responses for all of you later in the week. now capital punishment is one of the

ways in which the us stands out from other western nations for the death penalty has long been gone but what people change there are tough on crime minds here in the us if they knew how much it was costing them a new research paper conducted over three years by a senior california judge and a law professor finds of the death penalty has cost california four billion dollars since it was reinstated in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and that's for thirteen executions that have been carried out since that time which equals out to three hundred eight million dollars a person which means that the additional cost of capital trials enhanced security on death row legal representation for the condemned but all as one hundred eighty four million dollars to the california budget each year and they conclude that if the system isn't reformed the costs are only going to rise as the made in the by twenty thirty the tab is going to be at nine billion dollars plus get into why the death penalty cost so much and we're asking californians maybe even all americans

will ever be ready to reconsider joining me to discuss this is craig haney a psychology professor at the university of california santa cruz greg thanks so much for joining us tonight from my alma mater santa cruz always love interviewing people from there yes thanks for having me now like i said let's first get into some of the reasons why it is that capital punishment actually cost so much more money than you can explain for us sure. the most important reason i think is there is really in a capital punishment when charles there is that first trial everybody should. decide where you may think if they're guilty you think for him that he or she is guilty then there is a second trial which is oftentimes much more elaborate and she merely more experience and you can do it with a jury has its eye with the appropriate punishment so that's the that's the structural difference between a fair trial and any serious criminal trial that makes carol who. show experience

in. vision that the supreme court provided some additional protection for capital defendants most states provide seniors wrote in one alone there's extensive amount of investigation they can't stand because of the stakes involved and so on so a lot of this is just trial cost and then there's also a pure will there is a penalty to food so in gauge to be a lengthy opinion process and there too can be costly we don't think that i wonder this is something that's often argued by the advocates of the death penalty is they'll say if you look at california right you have about two hundred thirty thousand bars certified as tourney's there but maybe less than one hundred that are actually qualified to work on capital punishment cases and they'll say that that's something that's deliberate that you know people who are opposed to the death penalty do that on purpose so of these cases take longer so that there is a longer appeals process so in the end you some of the people that are trying to end the death penalty or at least slow the process down they end up costing us more

money as well. no i think that i have heard that argument and i had to say it's a significant misinformed or human the reason there are so few attorneys who are qualified to handle death and cations is precisely because the cases are so complicated there are there were very strict supreme court guidelines there's case law which governs the way these cases who don't own any even and even with the fairly high standards of a qualification for capital representation and many capital cases are doing badly on there's a sixty seven to seventy percent reversal rate among the courts who consider capital peel's and that's even with the high standards of capital representation being applied so there's no ploy there's no patent there being used here these cases are over complicated unable quire highly skilled lawyers to conduct them and that that's why there are so few people who are able to take in schemes so let's

talk about this and the research that's come out here four billion dollars that's a lot of money given to meriton taxpayers californians specifically have any idea they cost that much i mean it's certainly isn't the first report to come out and say that capital punishment is an incredibly expensive punishment incredibly expensive policy to have but i started seeing people rising up on the streets calling for a vote calling for the policy to get. no that's true i'm i'm not sure that most people understand exactly how much it costs i'm also not sure that people have begun to think about what they're getting for that kind of movements expense oh in a way that in a way that i have the sense that maybe people are now beginning to ask questions questions about a lot of social policies that they weren't asking over the last twenty or so years i think here and you know where the budget crisis the state and more local governments are going through i think kind of lots of citizens asking questions as

well whether policies that we were led. are you sure you are necessary or anything carol. but why does it take money to get us to start questioning whether something like capital punishment is moral or. is a good idea i mean often we hear you have the same arguments coming out with the war on drugs right now only when we're in a budget crisis do people start actually looking at the situation we have a lot of morality the legislates many laws in this country if you talk about abortion if you talk about gay marriage but capital punishment we don't think about oh i think that we lost greg they're going to we're going to try to dial him back in and see if he can come back but in the meantime if our viewers want to answer that question for us to you can respond to us on twitter or on facebook and tell us why you think it is that it takes a financial crisis something that has to do with a budget problem to get people to finally start changing their minds be it on any kind of moral issue including this when it comes to capital punishment in

california specifically california actually has i think highest prison population in the united states and don't forget of course we have the largest prison population in the world are we working with with craig i think he's coming back. greg you hear me now let's go get a video of you ok as long as you can hear me we're happy to have you back if you get my last question i was just asking you why it is that it takes a budget problem and it takes money to get people to start thinking about these moral issues and changing that. well. it should and i mean you're certainly right in pointing out the. money has led us to as questions about what's terrorists and even the morality of some. policies in the criminal justice system that we've taken for granted i think things like the death penalty change in response to a variety of different considerations and i think the monetary consideration in the

case of capital punishment is only the one is only one of the things that's leading people to question again whether or not this policy that was so enthusiastically embraced for the last twenty or thirty years is really worth the money is one thing i think concerns over wrongful convictions and all will produce it eventually surrounded very high profile exonerations in the country has led people to question whether this system is as precise and as fair and as accurate even in capital punishment cases as we've been led to believe so i think there's a lot of change taking place in terms of the way people look at this policy what is motivating a lot of people to look at it carefully but there are other considerations as well now how do you think of this policy it should be soccer example the bears of this report get about three different ways they think it could be solved one includes lowering the amount of crimes that could be something that's considered for capital punishment one is of course abolishment which they say could save about

a billion dollars every five or six years for californians. well i think i read the report and i think all of the things they propose a reasonable i have to tell you that i think the united states is inching its way towards inching its way towards abolishing capital punishment i'm reading the poll numbers and when the results that are coming out of capital cases we're increasingly fewer and fewer juries are returning their sentences in the last several years is going to simplistic line in the number of their sentences that have been rendered by juries i think also there's. so the statistics are a little difficult to get a handle on but it also looks like prosecutors are beginning to exercise discretion more judiciously over which kinds of cases they actually bring that innocently were requested there before and i think these things together or beginning to move the country as a whole away from this policy as i'm sure you know in recent years new jersey illinois and new mexico all are done away with this. and i think

a number of states will follow suit and i think there's alternately we're early and of course we're seeing it becoming more difficult for a lot of states to even carry out executions sodium thiopental isn't available anymore in a lot of european countries block you know them being able to access the drugs i think i made up over there too i think it's out of polish mint and that of abolition it happens and through the great i want to thank you very much for joining us you're very welcome thanks for. so a confident and eighteenth t.v. pundit says that jon stewart's audience audience is doubtful he sighed full time and said i'm going to be awarded a pulitzer prize plus another deliberate attack out stick around for all of our nation's capital. into that only a military mechanisms to deal with the to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i think

taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know some judges see a story and it seems so for sleep you think you understand it and then he's in something else here see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think either one well.

we're never going to says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you're going to take your freedom. for.

art it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to ann coulter the aging right when hack hack author and pundits has a new book out and it's called demonic how the liberal lobby is in danger in america sounds like light summer beach reading doesn't it and but out in the media trail trying to push this book and in the process she didn't interview with media and the web site asked her a few questions and her responses were. standing really out of touch they wanted to know why and gave john stewart so much coverage in her book and she went into this rambling answers of a john stewart's audience had a mob like behavior and they weren't very smart is what she said exactly so the low i.q. kids and their entire identity is i'm jon stewart's biggest fan they put on their resumes she went on to say that you think that jon stewart is funny but its audience is by and large filled with a bunch of losers hold on here and coulter who makes

a living at bashing liberals and taking a page from fox news thinks that jon stewart's audience is dumb maybe what she really means is that they're young she's just bitter they don't like her tired sexpot be true team that she parades all over the conservative seat and other than her being better she's also wrong seaweeds and we did some digging today and we found a survey that looks at the public's knowledge of news events and this was done a few years ago by pew research and the results are not surprising the daily show and the colbert report scored the highest. fifty four percent of the people surveyed had a very high knowledge of news events and i feel it down the list that's even better than n.p.r. listeners and we all know that n.p.r. is a high reputation now if you look down on the list fox news came next to last just ahead of viewers who watch morning network newscasts and only thirty five percent of their viewers are knowledgeable on current events which should not shock anyone again now according to research done by comedy central seventy eight percent of the daily show viewers are more likely to have a college education compared to an average adult they're also seventy four percent

more likely to make more than seventy five thousand dollars a year and household income compared to viewers of the o'reilly factor box news signature show only twenty four percent are more likely to have a college degree compared to the average adult and their fifteen percent less likely to have a household income greater than seventy five thousand dollars so i am to really think that jon stewart viewers are dumb baby and just confused young informed people watch jon stewart not her any of the old guys at fox news you know she's getting a little older she'll be fifty this year seems like maybe she's getting a little out of touch even though she still has that penchant for wearing those really ugly boots but tonight we are giving our children lord to ann coulter purse stupid comments about jon stewart's smart audience.

ok time for happy hour on this monday evening and joining me tonight is alex sites all reporter a blogger for think progress dot org and archie correspondent christine. thanks for joining me guys i found it so we all know the onion and we've spoken about maybe with the same panel for a happy hour how there are some people out there that unfortunately think about news real news but they're not but so he had to think that fox news is really well to get even more depressing i think. in their typical satirical kind of stigmas of the fashion i pig the onion it now is saying that they should be eligible for a pulitzer prize to look at this but. the sobering such. a little bit more. matter in the slightest and listen how could we code word comes with it that's why we hear it affects. our lives to exposing the mideast to speak of bigotry. and making sure that america's finest receives the

problems. he deserves. now they've actually submitted the paper work here and you know trying to see if they're eligible for an award and times do commentary or public service but i think they're really doing is trying to highlight the fact that sometimes the pulitzers awarded some people that if we don't really deserve it all that much you know to these news publications that are considered to be the top of the top well there's some great reporting great stuff out there that completely overlooked what do you say i mean i hate to be the buzz killer here and i love the onion and i love that they're doing this because i think it highlights exactly but i don't think they should win and here's why because even when they do when they can run a big headline that says the onion wins the pulitzer prize and everyone will laugh and have a joke about it i think the pulitzer should be reserved people who actually win the pulitzer prize i just like to see that those headlines the real media become more you know better and more informative one of the things than you know so good at is getting people talking about headlines or about the silly stories or sort of the irony that kind of brought up in the paper and i think no matter what this video

and this suggestion will bring up an important discussion which is that the washington post and the new york times should not always be the winners now should the onion i agree now but maybe you know other smaller publications online publications will get a chance now or released at least be more seen as acceptable for being on a day that ever have people talking about it because they already have some celebrities on their side arianna huffington tom hanks and even georgian president mikhail saakashvili decided to put out a video supporting the bid for the pulitzer also want to something else and some reason to talk about john. stuart alarms nights you can see straight so he went on fox news with chris wallace and i think a lot of people would agree just totally destroyed him but just take a look at the reasoning and like the research that went into wallace's mind for the sake of a clear. case in point how did you physically have sex with tommy lee he said you

know if you put them in front of my face i wouldn't know what they're actually seated at the piano. it's not exactly masterpiece theater you're working for you're damn right and i think i am perfectly poised i think that is my that is where the counter balance to that you know i know that i can survive . for this i had to prepare i had to go through episodes of south park i had to see cartman's mom is a slot parts one and two actors i don't know if they work you know no one wanted some of those guys they are brilliant guys are you suggesting that you and i are the same are you suggesting they cut what are my my highest aspiration and what are your best version of god i was just it is deluded careerist you actually think he needs to go study up on south park and on comedy central roast to prove like. a comedy that we're going to. try to get through or does that every time too whenever

he's interviewed especially by sunni on fox you know he's been on a rally factor before he always seems to i don't know if i could say that on television with the new one i mean he just put these really a lot of things to what they were about and i just think i mean it is crazy i mean because you see like chris wallace had all this stuff prepared and yet it will take this video clip and take this video clip and you know he played for me with diane sawyer is that in trying to think about was somehow connected to jon stewart you know he seemed to be overly prepared but was not prepared for the fact that jon stewart is just so smart and quick jon stewart is a comedian and i didn't think it takes a genius to figure that part out even comedian and he's on a comedy network and it's fake. exactly i mean after jon stewart there used to be the show with robots fighting each other and transfer those make jokes about it so does this chris wallace think that he's not a good fighting robot because you know it's on with fighting about something but the best thing about this is they proved sorts point when they edited out a piece of the interview where drugs are brought up these e-mails that bill sammon the washington d.c. editor of fox news sent to his staff directing them on how to just climate change

cast out of climate change to call the public option health care debate the government option i mean this is exactly what johnson was saying and they edited out of the clips of present the narrative in the way they wanted to be all the more power it's you him this was just kind of funny and then there's the paris air show that's coming up and we know that obviously all those military contractors have to be able to try to sell their really fancy and expensive weaponry and this is how lockheed martin is trying to sell their. i . i don't like all i go really am yeah i don't understand who they think that that's going to help them sell to i mean you know military contractors the people buying in the defense department i don't think are checking out pitchfork you know trying to see what the

latest bands are up to i don't think. it's very strange maybe it's sort of a younger audience and appealing to them so when they're voting on these things in the future or i think why are danger and called them discerning hipsters or something today so you have at thirty five every head start to have like let's do our last story we've been covering lately a lot of the glitter bombing that's been going on here is a reminder of who you. yes . thank. the right. of i think. this you know. larry it's hardly find good mike i could be actually said that he thinks of the glitter bomber should be arrested and they should be considered an assault. what about the people dropping real bomb

exactly on the war in iraq they're really scared of a little glitter that gets dropped on a litter is a little nothing i mean come on guys her number using that as a kid and it will follow you for the next several days no but i agree it's totally fine and it's supposed to be fun and opposed to just bring it shed light to the fact that these people have very strange that is a way of protesting out actually hurting and damaging anybody you're just making a sparkly absolutely critical strategic error for mike huckabee because who's the next person is going to get mike huckabee no doubt i'm sure every glitter bomber in the country is at the ready with their arsenal of glitter and the next time mike huckabee shows his head that's probably what he wanted though because nobody's talking about in the. spotlight he wants to be the glitterball and go will be waiting for that when i will make sure to show you the video he does not and i thank for joining me tonight but so much thanks for that different itself thank. returning it to make sure you come back tomorrow cass and see ana from c.e.i. is going back for our happy hour in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any tonight's show or any other nights you can always catch it on the you tube dot com

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