as of the crash so the moment it's down to that investigation to try and find out what did cause this tragic plane crash. and will bring you the latest details on that tragic plane crash as we get them on right now let's go back to the from our washington studio. all right it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube because when you say something i do listen now first i want respond to john smith he commented about our interview with the whistleblower who's asking for obama to return his government transparency award and john smith said on facebook obama's transparency war to be any more irrelevant and so is taking a back obama setting journalist to chasing their own tails with pursuit of the silly stuff the nation's bankrupt for military spending and you focus however briefly on the gross injustice of a transparency award how silly can you be now john surely you understand i don't

think that obama being given a transparency award in itself is something that's important to our groundbreaking nor would taking it back be what i do think is important is that people within washington d.c. are so willfully blind to the lack of transparency in the obama administration that they actually have the audacity to give obama at award for something that he's failed miserably on it's just another example of washington d.c. corruption interest groups in this case public advocacy groups patting each other on the back and laughing all the american people are kept in the dark and part of the reason why this nation is bankrupt with military spending is that government lies and misrepresents the truth so that the people just don't see what's going on around the world john i think that it is important to talk about i think the fact of the obama administration has failed miserably in its promise to be open and transparent with the american people is important to talk about and i think the american people deserve to know the truth about what their government is doing not

just in terms of military spending everything especially considering how many of our constitutional rights are regularly being trampled on in secret and i want to respond to doug fresh who said in response to our interview on the legality of the war in libya on facebook what difference does it make arguing over its legality they've successfully deployed military forces or obtaining funding through a channel of the congress will not be able. ok doug i understand your frustration and i feel it too but just because the executive branch has been increased banding its powers steadily over the past several decades does not mean we have to sit by quietly and let it happen we're a country built on laws as long as our politicians claim to abide by their rule but simply ignore the ones that just don't fit their policy agenda and hope the american people don't notice i'm going to call them out for it so i will continue to point out the war currently being waged on behalf of the american people is illegal and hope that more americans to stand up to do the same now guy harvey responded to my fireside friday on the war in libya by saying if they'd like ninety

five degrees fahrenheit outside wouldn't poolside chat be more appropriate and yeah you're right there would be in fact we're actually going to look into that as long as i have somebody to bring me tropical cocktails while i pontificate and i will have more responses for all of you later in the week. our capital punishment is one of the ways in which the us stands out from other western nations for the death penalty has long been gone but would people change their tough on crime minds here in the us if they knew how much it was costing them a new research paper conducted over three years by a senior california judge and a law professor fines of the death penalty has cost california four billion dollars since it was reinstated in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and that's for thirteen executions that have been carried out since that time which equals out to three hundred eight million dollars a person which means that the additional costs of capital trials enhanced security on death row legal representation for the condemned i don't know as one hundred eighty four million dollars to the california budget each year and they conclude

that if the system is a reformed the costs are only going to rise as to meeting the by twenty thirty the tab is going to be at nine billion dollars so let's get into why the death penalty cost so much and i ask of californians maybe even all americans will ever be ready to reconsider joining me to discuss this is craig haney psychology professor at the university of california santa cruz. greg thanks so much for joining us tonight from my alma mater santa cruz always love interviewing people from there yes thanks for having me now like i said let's first get into some of the reasons why it is the capital punishment actually cost so much more money than you can explain for us sure. the most important reason i think is that there is really in a capital punishment case two separate trials there is the first trial that everybody's familiar with where the jury decides where you have the defendant is guilty you think find that he or she is guilty then there is a second trial which is oftentimes much more elaborate and significantly more

expensive to conduct where the jury has to decide what the appropriate punishment should be so that's the that's the structural difference between a trial and any other kind of serious criminal trial that makes capital punishment cases so expensive in addition that the supreme court's provided some additional protection for capital defendants most states provide to lawyers rather than one there's extensive amount of investigation that gets down because of the stakes involved and so on so a lot of this is just trial related costs and then there's also appeal related costs there's a penalty defendants in gauge is to be a lengthy appeal process and that too can be costly we don't think that i wonder this is something that's often argued by the advocates of the death penalty is they'll say if you look at california right you have about two hundred thirty thousand bar certified attorneys there but maybe less than one hundred that are actually qualified to work on capital punishment cases and they'll say that that's

something that's deliberate that you know people are opposed to the death penalty do that on purpose so that these cases take longer so that there is a longer appeals process so in the end do some of the people that are trying to end the death penalty or at least slow the process down banda costing us more money as well no i think that's i have heard that argument and i said. to say it's a significantly misinformed argument the reason there are sort of few attorneys who are qualified to handle death penalty cases is precisely because the cases are so complicated there are there were very strict supreme court guidelines there's case law which governs the way these cases are done. and even if even with these fairly high standards of a qualification for capital representation many capital cases are done badly and there's a sixty seven to seventy percent reversal rate among the courts who consider capital peals and that's even with the high standards of capital representation being

applied so there's no ploy there's no tactic being used here these cases are or complicated unable choir or highly skilled lawyers to conduct them and that that's why there are so few people who are able to take in schemes so let's talk about this and the research that's come out here four billion dollars that's a lot of money do you think that american taxpayers californians specifically have any idea that it cost that much i mean this certainly isn't the first report to come out and say that capital punishment is an incredibly expensive punishment an incredibly expensive policy to have but i still haven't seen people rising up on the streets calling for a vote calling for the policy to get to and no that's true i'm i'm not sure that most people understand exactly how much it costs i'm also not sure that people have begun to think about what they're getting for that kind of enormous expense in a way that in a way that i have the sense that maybe people are now beginning to ask questions

questions about a lot of social policies that they weren't asking over the last twenty or so years i think a you know where the budget crisis that state and local governments are going through i think kind of lots of citizens asking questions about whether policies that we were led to believe were useful and even necessary really are and i think our. but why does it take money to get us to start questioning whether something like capital punishment is moral or you know or is a good idea i mean often we hear you have these same arguments coming out with the war on drugs right now only when we're in a budget crisis do people start actually looking at the situation we have a lot of more ality the legislates many laws in this country if you talk about abortion if you talk about gay marriage but capital punishment we don't think about it i think that we lost craig they're going to we're going to try to dial him back in and see if he can come back but in the meantime if our viewers want to answer that question for us to you can respond to us on twitter or on facebook and tell us

why you think it is that it takes a financial crisis something that has to do with a budget problem to get people to finally start changing their minds be it on any kind of moral issue including this when it comes to capital punishment in california specifically california actually has i think the highest prison population in the united states and don't forget of course we have the largest prison population in the world working with with craig i think he's coming back. greg you hear me now. i've got a got a video but no idea ok i watch as long as he can hear me we're happy to have you back did you get my last question i was just asking you why it is that it takes a budget problem and it takes money to get people to start thinking about these moral issues and training them. well. it should and i mean you're certainly right in pointing out that money has led us to ask questions about its therapists and

even the morality of some. policies in the criminal justice system that we've taken for granted i think things like the death penalty change in response to a variety of different considerations and i think the monetary consideration in the case of capital punishment is only though is only one of the things that's leading people to question again whether or not this policy that was so enthusiastically embraced for the last twenty or thirty years is really worth the money is one thing i think concerns over wrongful convictions and all of a publicity which is surrounded very high profile exonerations in the country is that people to question whether this system is as precise and share and as accurate even in capital punishment cases as we've been led to believe so i think there's a lot of change taking place in terms of the way people look at this policy money is motivating a lot of people to look at it carefully but there are other considerations as well now how do you think of this policy it should be solved for example the offers of

this report give about three different ways they think that it could be solved one includes lowering the amount of crimes that could be something that's considered for capital punishment one is of course abolishment which they say could save about a billion dollars every five or six years for californians. well i think i've read the report and i think all of the things that they propose a reasonable i have to tell you that i think the united states is inching its way towards inching its way towards abolishing capital punishment i'm really the poll number. really results that are coming out of capital cases where increasingly fewer and fewer juries are returning death sentences in the last several years is going to suit because the client in a number of their sentences that have been rendered by juries i think there's also this statistic so a little difficult to get a handle on but it also looks like prosecutors are beginning to exercise discretion more judiciously over which kinds of cases they actually bring the death penalty or

request of death penalty for and i think these things together or beginning to move the country as a whole away from this policy as i'm sure you know in recent years in new jersey illinois new mexico all done away with the death. and i think a number of states are going to follow suit and i think that's ultimately were it and of course we're seeing at becoming more difficult for a lot of states to even carry out executions as. an available anymore and a lot of european countries blocked off you know them being able to access the drug i think i made up a word there too i think i said abolishment instead of abolition it happens sometimes david craig i want to thank you very much for joining us you're very welcome thanks for having. me still to come tonight and eighteen t.v. pundit says that jon stewart's audience audience is dumb can't say i've told time where i answered i'm going to be of one of the pulitzer prize plus another clear attack out and stick around for all that on monday edition of happy hour.

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it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to ann coulter the aging right when hack hack author and funded has a new book out and it's called demonic how the liberal mob is in danger in america

now it sounds like some light summer beach reading doesn't it and been out in the media trail trying to push this book and in the process she didn't interview with media eye and the website asked her a few questions and her responses were. stunningly out of touch they wanted to know why and gave jon stewart so much coverage in her book and she went into this rambling answers of the john stewart's audience had a mob like behavior and they weren't very smart this is what she said exactly so the low i.q. kids and their entire identity is i'm john stewart's biggest fan they put it on their resumes she went on to say that she thinks that jon stewart is funny but his audience is by and large filled with a bunch of losers now hold on here and coulter who makes her living at bashing liberals and taking a paycheck on fox news thinks that jon stewart's audience is dumb maybe what she really means is that they're young she's. bitter they don't like her tired sexpot be true team that she parades all over the conservative seat and other than her being better she's also wrong seaweeds and we did some digging today and we found

a survey that looked at the public's knowledge of news events now this was done a few years ago by pew research and the results are not surprising the daily show and the colbert report scored the highest fifty four percent of the people surveyed had a very high knowledge of news events now if you look down the list that's even better than n.p.r. listeners and we all know that n.p.r. is a high reputation now if you look at it down on the list fox news came next to last just ahead of yours who watch morning network newscasts and only thirty five percent of their viewers are knowledgeable on current events which should not shock anyone to get now according to research done by comedy central seventy eight percent of the daily show viewers are more likely to have a college education compared to an average adult they're also seventy four percent more likely to make more than seventy five thousand dollars a year and household income compared to viewers of the o'reilly factor fox news signature show only twenty four percent are more likely to have a college degree compared to the average adult and their fifteen percent less likely to have a household income greater than seventy five thousand dollars so i am to really

think that jon stewart's viewers are dumb maybe and just confused young informed people watch jon stewart not her any of the old guys at fox news you know she's getting a little older she'll be fifty this year seems like maybe she's getting a little out of touch even though she still has that penchant for wearing those really ugly horse boots but tonight we are giving our tool time award to ann coulter first stupid comments about jon stewart's smart. ok time for happy hour on this monday evening and joining me tonight is alex sidewall reporter and blogger for think progress dot org and r t correspondent christine for south thanks for joining me guys experiment so we all know the onion and we think we've spoken about maybe with the same panel for a happy hour how there are some people out there that unfortunately think that the

onion is real news but they're not but so you have that think that fox news is really well to get even more depressing i think. in their typical satirical kind of stick it to the fashion i think the onion now is saying that they should be eligible for a pulitzer prize take a look at this clip. some of the civil liberties that one that was in the anniversary issue a landmark achievement that matter in the slightest and. comes with it that's why we hear it affects. our lives to exposing the truth. and making sure that america's finest newsource receives the programs richly deserves. now they've actually submitted the paper work here and you know try to see if they're eligible for an award when it comes to commentary or public service but what i think they're really doing is trying to highlight the fact that sometimes the pulitzer is awarded to people that maybe just don't really deserve it

all that you know to these news publications that are considered to be the top of the top while there is some great reporting great stuff out there that goes completely overlooked what do you say i mean i hate to be the buzzkill here and i love the onion and i love that they're doing this because i think it highlights exactly as you pointed out but i don't think they should win and here's why because even when they don't when they can run a big headline that says the onion wins the pulitzer prize and everyone will laugh and have a joke about it i think the pulitzer should be reserved people who actually win the pulitzer prize just like to see that those have been as the real media become more you know better and more informative one of the things than you know so good at is getting people talking about headlines are about the silly stories are sort of the irony that kind of brought up in the paper and i think no matter what this video and this suggestion will bring up a important discussion which is that the washington post and the new york times should not always be the winners now should the onion i agree now but maybe you know other smaller publications online publications will get a chance now or at least least be more seen as acceptable from the kind of the

devil have people talking about it because they already have some celebrities on their side arianna huffington tom hanks and even georgian president mikheil saakashvili decided to put out a video supporting the bid for the pulitzer. want to something else and i want to talk about john. stewart a lot on tonight's show because he's great so he went on fox news with chris wallace and i think a lot of people would agree just totally destroyed him but just take a look at the reasoning and like the research that went into wallace's mind for this take a look at a clip. case in point how did you physically have sex with tommy lee he has a you know if you put anything in front of my face i would know whether i should or feed it up enough. so nothing exactly masterpiece theater you're working for you're damn right and i think i am perfectly poised i think that is my that is worth the counter balance to that i know i know that i had i don't.

care for this i had to prepare i had to go to episodes of south park i had to see cartman's mom is a slot parts one and two i don't know if you know nine one one says i'm about those guys they are brilliant guys are you suggesting that you and i are the same are you suggesting that what are my my highest aspiration and what are your desperation. and i was just it is still ludicrous to actually think that he needs to go study up on south park and on comedy central roast to prove like. a comedy that we're going to what was the point what was the point he was trying to get through or does that every time too whenever he's interviewed especially by somebody on fox i know he's been on the o'reilly factor before he always seems to i don't know if i can say that on television rip them a new one i mean he just quit because when you have a lot of so you don't worry about it i just think i mean it is crazy i mean because you see like chris wallace had all this stuff prepared and yet it would take this video clip and take this video clip and you know he plays in the diane sawyer set

and try to say that that was somehow connected to jon stewart you know he seemed to be overly prepared but was not prepared for the fact that jon stewart is just so smart and quick to just do it as a comedian i don't even think it takes a genius to figure that part out he's a comedian and he's on a comedy network and it's fake. exactly i mean after jon stewart there used to be the show with robots fighting each other and johns would always make jokes about it so does this chris wallace think that he's not a good fighting robot because you know jon stewart is on the fighting about something but the best thing about this is they proved john stewart's point when they edited out a piece of the interview where jon stewart brought up these e-mails that bill sammon the washing d.c. editor of fox news sent to his staff directing them on how do we just climate change to cast doubt on climate change to call the public option health care debate the government option i mean this is exactly what john was saying and they edited out of the clip to present the narrative in the way they wanted to be all the more power to him this was just kind of funny the paris air show that's coming up and we know that obviously all those military contractors have to be able to try to sell

their really fancy and expensive weaponry and this is how lockheed martin is trying to sell their f. thirty five is take a look i . i don't know. how to go to real they earn fives yeah i don't understand who they think that that's going to help them sell to i mean you know military contractors the people buying in the defense department i don't think are checking out pitchfork you know trying to see what the latest bands are up to i don't think so. it's very strange maybe it's sort of a younger audience and appealing to them so when they're voting on these things in the future or i don't know why or danger him call them a discerning hipsters or something today so you have thirty five every hipster can have like let's rewind our last story we've been covering lately

a lot of the glitter bombing that's been going on here is a reminder of who it's happened to you. there is. the right. of all your country to this know this you know. it's glittery it's hardly it's fine but mike huckabee actually said that he thinks that the glitter bomber should be arrested and they should be considered an assault . what about the people dropping real bomb exactly on the war hogs they're really scared of a little glitter that gets dropped on their litter is a little messy though i mean come on don't you remember using that as a kid and it will follow you for the next several days no but i agree it's totally fine and it's supposed to be fun i suppose to just bring it shed light to the fact that these people have very strange for you this way of protesting are actually hurting or damaging anybody you're just making them sparkly more absolutely it is

a critical strategic error for mike huckabee because who's the next person is going to get mike huckabee no doubt i'm sure every glitter bomber in the country is at the ready with their arsenal of glitter and the next time mike huckabee shows his head that's probably what he wanted though because nobody's talking about him these days. he wants to be the good of all and ok well we'll be waiting for that one i will make sure to show you the video does ivan thanks for joining me tonight thanks so much thanks our that's it for tonight's show thank. returning it and makes the come back tomorrow catherine seattle from c.i. is going to back her are happy hour and i mean time now to get to become a fan of a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of the night's or any other nights you can always catch it all a complete dot com quest they want to show us the interviews as well as the shell in its entirety coming up next is adverse. to more than a month. in one of the most extreme environments on the planet this is antarctica

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three people each man reached out his hand towards me but i couldn't make it to him everything he saw. everything was engulfed by. forty four people killed as a passenger plane crash lands in northwest russia survivors are hospitalized in critical condition. claims of more civilian victims in libya after a fresh nato bombing with at least fifteen reportedly dead including children on an airstrike west of tripoli. and parents fighting red tape for their children's lives dozens of kids diagnosed with hunter a syndrome disease in russia who survive if the state funds expensive treatment.

you're watching are all the latest world developments twenty four hours a day program our top story now a plane crash in northwestern russia has killed forty four passengers and eight survivors were rescued after a plane plowed into a highway just one kilometer short of its destination. joins us live now with the details peter how did the tragedy happen and what do we know so far. well the trouble of t u one three four plane was forced to make an emergency landing around a kilometer away from its intended destination airport in the northwest of russia no it had to make this emergency landing on a highway that meant that. the first emergency service if you will the first rescuers on the scene were passers by people who were in the area out the time in fact when the plane landed on this highway it very narrowly avoided crashing into

a. houses that were nearby that would have resulted in more casualties well eight people were able to be three pulled from the wreckage before the plane broke and wait for the plane but it love the question of broken eight people were able to be pulled from the wreckage before it burst into flames say that that initial rescue effort made by people who were just to round out the time. three people out of the wreckage one was either a girl or a woman they could not sell but she was larger than the man he was hard to see it was dark then there was a man he also was unhappy he was larger than me and then we carried out two more people from the wreckage in the middle of the road another man reached out his hand told me but i couldn't make it to him everything started exploding i could not get any closer everything was engulfed by fire so very. horrified.