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a day off from the riots admitted to killing civilians while blaming a weapons malfunction. on the prime minister of greece is of placing a crucial confidence in his recently government the outcome could determine whether he will be able to push through an austerity package to secure another much needed injection of cash from. the next to look into the issues surrounding russia nato discussed program.

hello again the world going through the spotlight they insincerity on our team i'll bring all of them today my guest on the program is the trauma. the french president nicolas sarkozy looked very content added g eight summit and goodwill russia announced it is ready to buy helicopters carriers from from the longing to separated but contradictory feel that pride president clinton emitted in the bargain will cost russia more than the full year zero but it is likely to improve moscow's relations with paris and probably with drafts to. be the first step in rejecting general may need this trust between russia and myself and some of

the more proud of their russia and i as senator at the french institute of international relations is here to polish the culture and. to french helicopter carriers will sail to russia to become part of a couple of years is the first time after the second world war i was buying foreign weapons but what's more it's buying nato military to colleges this has been strongly opposed by the french military but the diplomats everyone. thank you for being with us on the show good morning thank you thank you well first question is about is about the past actually when sarah crazy was elected in two thousand and seven he was considered to be in atlanta is like a pro us politicians and there were expect tensions that the relations of france with russia may have probably be facing problems but these predictions were wrong

lucian's are pretty good today and so a new a new set of expectations is being is is being born today because we're facing elections a new election cycle both in france and russia so do you expect any changes that. influence the current positive trend in the relations between russia and for zero i don't expect any any change whatever the result i don't expect. right through to remind cycles he was seen as a natural. to present and that was a turning point you know and it's fairly soon regarding russia of i think it is mainly related to the war in georgia in two thousand and eight and also. personal relations with. things you know you know in the world of picture i think there is

a tradition of quite good relations between paris and most schools and to some extent you know psychosis what you see regarding russia can be compared to chirac's policy regarding russia as well and that's why my my my i'm a conclusion would be to say that i don't expect any change in this transition whatever the next french president bush has said this would be well most of those relations with have. have been ups and downs the the but. last couple of use they have been improving too and hello and we see that and there will witnessing a sort of a new face new level of cooperation between russia and nato however there's one thing between russia and nato aggression all the nato countries which is a still growing misunderstanding concerning this nuclear umbrella nuclear shields is this american analysis of nato nato progress program of installing the

ants on the missile defense. russia wants proof show us why we shouldn't be afraid nature says we'll just take it for granted book do you think that nato the west has to to to show such to give some proof to russia. that russia will not be reading the russian was like a political class here for first of all i think it's very important to remind was the relationship between russia in. in the summer to present date with the war in georgia once again i think it's really the turning point and says prime we had some positive evolution as you say certainly a change of stance in russian leadership probably due to the crisis and the impact of the quizes and also the research reports promoted by president obama and since

that time differently we can observe an improvement between nato and russia having said that it's i share your views about you know. defense problem which is at the same time very complicated in military terms but it is a real strategic problems and i think it's it should be seen as a part of a much more global strategy and for both russia and nato so key question is do we consider the main difference between us or do we consider them to mean friends outside us this is what they do say isolate this is this is against an outside threat but it doesn't seem the west has arguments to convince must still like being hostile i know i know pretty well that there is a strong debate within the russian elites and between your political leadership leadership of these very. difficult and sensitive issue about i think

it's very important also to understand that nato and carraige russia from georgia. and i think it's a long process because it's very complicated and definitely it will be a big change in the positioning of russia on the international scene if russia i decided to join in on this on its own to me since then do you think the contacts between military between generals between between politicians in charge of military affairs are a good thing in establishing trust in in stopping to look at each other as potential enemies a definitely it's important you know and but i think it's not something very new or we have this tradition of of changes definitely it's it's i would say once again it's a parts of the picture it's very important for both new theories to interact on a consistent basis but by the same time i think it should be seen in something

broader we've political account balance we've called to all contact and solved. the idea for four thousand west and especially for for for for europe is to say that. russia should be engaged and we know that it's a very important partner it's not that all the time an easy partner no doubt about that but definitively say that russia should be engaged. after the recent visits of the russian defense minister to france it became obvious that france is becoming the number one russian partner in military operational in europe among native countries at least was a difficult decision for the french to start selling. military equipment worth billions to to russia i don't think it was a difficult decision just it only business just i mean i think i think it is for

you so an aircraft carrier to the russians you must sell the deal. to your own people was it ari i think it's more complicated because they are also part of the debate we've been rushing establishment as you know. possible. i think it's ironic it's number one i would say that clearly if you observe the relation between russia and europe in the zoo member one is of germany now we know that germany is less exposed to affairs than friends of the u.k. given also the difficult relations sometimes between london and most who certainly there is a space for for for for for moscow well once again we have a good tradition of relations between both countries but regarding you know obvious selves you see there was some concerns expressed by nato all of them versus nationally. or so by a country such as

a judge on the same time i think it should be seen first of all you know deal because all over europe and countries can make any sort of cells so its commercial or commercial politically but also obviously it is presented as a weapon transforms the relation between nato and russia you mentioned the baltic states you mentioned john kerry which is the later let's talk about the lead position of other nato countries except the baltic maybe the old legal countries and also the united states what was there and what is their approach to these increasing military creation. god was not happy but other buying it. i think maybe not. to be honest that's not at all the top priority for the u.s. and russian right now and i think if you see the u.s. strategy right now you know number one certainly afghanistan iran is

a raising of china and to some extent so it can come to. russia is not a top priority at all for washington when. so i think said that i'm not so sure that europe is a top priority as well so a problem for russia and for europe is a risk to be marginalized in the on the international scene and from this point of view everything that's cabinet maker you know between europe russia to some extent europe russia and the u.s. can be seen as a positive step oh well i have heard a line of country opinions here in moscow that that russia actually does need these trials. it's a political deal rather than purely economical as you call it how much our strategic interests outside of purely economic interest there's france have in this deal. if it's not interesting for military terms for the russian navy that's interesting because that means that the russian navy. official be rich to buy

something without any in the u.s. so i think there is an interest. but who will see for france but very important in the industry in terms the doc about guns because it's a way to jump through some walk in seoul but that's one reason this is going to reason is this idea that. the transformation of nato is very important and that russia should not be seen as a rebel but should be seen as a partner a partner but it is seen as a country with. which it's possible to make some strategy convergence on the front issues not on all of these shows but on the front visuals says tell my government i will be russia and act as senator and the french institute of international relations spotlight will be that shortly after a break we'll continue definitively so don't go stay where you are.

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to russia well when i said that the russians are not really interested they don't really need mr el ships actually when people say we don't need the ships this is not right we maybe we don't need wishes themselves but the russians badly need the technology which comes with the ships and this is supposedly what the russian navy is after so are the french your opinion ready to share with the clergy relating to the rituals as you probably know that's a part of the negotiation who can say i'm not a novel experience that's very difficult for me to explain to users or didn't yourself politically definitely varies a debate award should we transfer technology is you know was of the was russia and you have a debate going to be honest in france and not only in france and in the nato countries but on the deal itself unfortunately i have no insights on this

particular part ok so. let's switch the subject now look ahead and talk about one of the run of the favorite stories of the french press. in the recent couple of week we should stress kind of. a wonderful a wonderful rumor around this trance kind of fur well of course people say that it was initiated by a bomber so other people say it was initiated by sarah because eva. because of company but some people in france said that it was all done on an order of lead and reputed you know. where does that come from i mean this is a designer is it's coming from a french p i'm not wrong. it was seen as a put in the sort of russian plots makes predictions is very simple you know all that stuff is absolutely amazing and the media coverage of it confirms is much more

than surprising for i would say real professional journalists. something completely irrational. in france and so there is also a tendency to see plot we were to explain what the up and so. russian. and american blogs the other day something organized to be honest that's. so complicated and definitely impacts dramatically russian the mystic story russian french politics that it's it's not very important to come and it's sort of a question from my point of view ok. france today is advocating the military campaign against gadhafi in libya advocating the un resolutions against pressures as a regime in syria well that is a political fact russia russian diplomacy is much more cautious dealing with these

issues do you think that this is because of some disagreements that exist between moscow and paris and could they have a negative impact on relations these specific burning issues which are priorities for for later the computer i think it's important to remind. obviously. you know in libya it's very scary but it is. within nato and especially the strong cooperation between paris and london as a beginning of the process and obviously the u.s. support was military very important to make as the operation and to respect the reserve. which was there was this abstention of russia for for resolution now we are some criticize coming from russia against you know the way of operating and of. mandating given was

a resolution that was not so so so so large so definitely it is. a sensitive issue between paris and mosco i think there is a debate you know in the russian leadership as well on that because we saw the president in their view was close to its. wisdom got the parts in the framework of the g. eight and over same time we listen very carefully to criticize expertise by one minister put in so very certainly different approaches also in russia about what is going on in india now the other question is about syria an obviously for for it's a very important country for the study beauty of the region and also in the russian diplomacy because well quite intensive links between. us and most schools and also very serious question should we stay and do nothing given

you know the evolution of the syrian regime and all of that is made you know against the syrian population to be honest i have no no real insert it's very difficult question ok question. the end of the ninety's i think especially on the eve of the of the iraq war there was much talk and much rumors about creation of a possible political strategic triangle of france germany and russia is this still alive are these are these ideas still of make any sense today. that's a good question i think there is a continuation because you're right to say that this triangle was in fact against the war in iraq we put in sure learned shark about and there is a continuation i think is a framework of the relation between the you russia this idea.

all should converge on different topics having said that are so also an evolution of germany to be honest we have the very very strong relationship between. school and obviously we are also obvious abstention of believing you know falls into in libya so to some extent i think doubts maybe it can be a way to some of the things that we can see why good relation between paris and berlin regarding the but also very good relation between paris and london regarding nato officials and to some extent taken by the militias by comparison with the triangle you mention in two thousand and three. russia is one of the largest markets for a european vegetables i'm talking about of course a cucumber of well these eat that nobody knows yet where it comes from first it was cucumbers then it was so here now people say to me that russia has closed its

borders really there is there was and this causing controversy of course in europe months farmers and and stuff do you see such measures such radical moves you know actual moves by russia for example as as. and willingness. to tackle bilateral issues in a more positive way so so there are problems in relations if we if we look at practical steps out me. yes but you know i work a lot on this issue of u.s. show relations and it strikes me to see that regularly we have the sort of problems remind for instance two thousand and six pounds of the troubles between poland and russia for important things so i think it's something which should be avoided no doubt it should be avoided because as you know the u.n. russia are supposed to set all new agreements between the between when to.

restrain the relations for me it's. you know it's it was and you know this is and i don't i don't think it was the most smart one to do to be honest but had the same time. i would say business as usual ok business this is not business is business as usual and we would talk about him a lot so you're right but my point is to say. i think we should not overestimate the importance of this. decision i got the relation we've become a small. business as usual is selling russian gas to europe only this is the same as usual in russia as you know is dreaming of getting the greater access to european markets european consumers actually we want the russians want an equal status to the project and the end the south stream project do you think

the russians will ever get that equal status. or it's i don't want to can make some predictions on the. idea of. a girl in europe willing koreans and especially after you know as the change of position of germany on the nuclear field it's a very recent decision in. russia is another to all supply you for before or for gas and to some extent it does exist and in may view will be extended in the coming decades and absolutely no doubt about that now abodes a different project as you know vo is the whole project we've got this coming form should we take some guards in turkmenistan for transco suspension we think some guys in iran and so on the sole stream projects they are they are you know very

often presented as completed those projects the basic fact is that both was shot. and well for sorry for both russia and the definitely there is a need to foster energy cooperation in the next week and so i'm pretty optimistic about the ability to find a proper way to too few to sure the european market in the coming years drawstring the corporation russian companies they still feel barriers they need people come here to meet their good this table speak about barriers that they face have to overcome in europe doing business do you think do you think that europe is really is ready for concessions on this issue i don't think so yeah but i think it's not a negotiation even self once again it should be put in a broader picture and it is related to the negotiation of reserve vision is related to the negotiation for commercial conditions ok energy is

a very important parts but the jello between russia and the you should not be resumed to energy relations it's something much more broadly and as you know very this legislation we've been zero about the so-called unbending and this idea that a company wants to invest should respect this legislation so hans again i think it's difficult but i'm pretty optimistic about the ability of both sides to cooperate in the future thank you thank you very much and just to remind them that my guest on the show today was from our government had the russia and i has several had french institute of international relations and that's it for now for all of us if you want to hide yourself or if you have someone in mind you think i'm going to stand for it drop me along i'll bring our. darts are you let's keep spotlight interact would be back with more coming from what's going on in and outside russia

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