initial reports point to human error and bad weather conditions at the time as possible causes of the crash ground staff at the local airport claimed they had asked the pilot to make a second approach but he said he'd make it the first time however investigators say there are several theories and nothing has been ruled out just yet. investigators continue their work at the site of the tragedy the debris there is spread across a three hundred meter radius the flight recorder has already been found communication recordings are being analyzed forensic analysis is being carried out we're looking into several versions of what caused the tragedy and these include the human factor such as an air of the crew or the ground services severe weather conditions technical failure and several other potential causes this is the twenty eighth crash involving a tipple of one three four tarnishing its reputation even more in two thousand and seven russia's transport minister called the aircraft obsolete and should be replaced within five years but some would argue that in most plane crashes human

error plays the biggest part of the numbers of which i don't think anything would go wrong with the plane itself in forty years of operation that you bill of one three four has proved to be extremely reliable aircraft in previous catastrophes human error was always to blame and the same is true here the pilot should have made a second landing approach this is exactly what happened to the polish presidential airplane while investigators work on the case relatives of the victims and survivors are dealing with their own grief one shared by the people of beth as avoids declaring three days of mourning tesser celia r.t. in the russian region. well they're trying to build a picture of what may have gone so badly wrong here let's bring into the conversation captain mark vice is a former pilot with american airlines mark good evening to you thanks by going to say investigators are saying so far they think bad weather conditions maybe pilot error could with a reason for what happened here from the information you've got to agree. well you

know accidents don't happen from a single cause or a compilation of events leading up to the catastrophe so certainly weather is a factor human dynamics play into this again it's a combination of events that led to this catastrophe sadly i mean what are the challenges facing a pilot landing a plane in bad weather presumably although this is an old model plane oldish model plane it had the usual safety equipment like other passenger airplanes of yeah. well you know remember something pilots are trained this is not a typical weather this is normal operations that pilots go through on a daily basis one of the questions that need to be asked and certainly when the flight data recorder and the voice recorder are analyzed we'll have a better idea but certainly one of the things we have to find out was whether this

aircraft was in fact. did it have on board ground proximity warning which would have alerted the pilot that his closure rate to the ground or his distance from the ground was either too close or too fast for the appropriate position on the phase of flight that's also my employee that would know what shouts out to the pilot yeah . yes it would say terrain terrain to lopo up various types of warning systems like that on aircraft the other question certainly is what exactly what type of an approach he was on there are a variety of approaches you have to runway some being pursued approaches with have a glide path which take you down pretty much a regular path that would lead you to a point beyond the threshold the end of the runway that gives you obstacle clearance there are other approaches that have bring you in on turns or other

approaches that don't have the accuracy of that precision instrument landing system now depending on the type of approach is how how low the aircraft can go before it has to by law make a missed approach go around and the precision approach would slow it down or approach that doesn't get you the same parameters as you will have imprecision so the question becomes a what type of approach it was did the pilot go below the minimum level that they were allowed to go because they. i thought that they could get in or were they getting a room to use information from perhaps ground signals or was there something on the airplane so there's a lot of very easy to point to yet as good as say it's very i'm sorry there are awful lot of things that must be considered here but of course one of the other big fingers pointing at the plane itself a couple of model a russian plane aides getting quite old now they are the work courses of the

russian skies there's a lot of them still flying around but all these aging aircraft you think still really fit for the purpose. well certainly aging aircraft if there are appropriately maintained and with the proper instrumentation have a life expectancy beyond what most people would think they are again the question becomes what instrumentation was on board that aircraft that would have allowed it or not allowed it to continue that approach with information to tell it that there was a potential opportunity for catastrophe if it continued or whether or not the pilot exercised poor judgment it's early to make that determination and it's again generally a combination of factors ok mark thanks for being on the program of vice former pilot with american airlines they're on our team tonight. and bit later in the program we will be reporting on the newest safety hopes for russian aviation in

fact the latest aircraft designed to make pilot error a thing of the past take to the skies of the largest as show in the world we've got a report from france bit later. now just a day after admitting killing nine civilians in a bungled airstrike nato has been accused by the libyan authorities of causing at least another fifteen deaths the alliance confirmed to have carried out another bombing but has not responded to those allegations of civilian casualties. reports now from tripoli. an other day has brought more death and destruction to leave. a large private compound west of the capital tripoli has been leveled reduced to rubble in apparent as strike. rescuers have discovered the remains of fifteen people according to libyan officials. the house destroyed belonged to general who moody one of the people closest to

colonel gadhafi he was among those who took part in the military coup to bring the libyan leader to power forty one years ago the general escaped injury but most of his family died in the attack. because. this man is talking about lethal are one of the grandchildren of the general and one of three kids killed in the incident the day of the bombing the family had gathered with friends to celebrate his fourth birthday. libyan civilians. where attacked in the air hours of this morning killing fifteen people including. children are. mothers. but the number is fifty and. nato has denied these claims just as it's never debated the death of more than eight hundred eleven government says were

killed by their bombs the nine people killed in sunday's bombing of a residential building in tripoli remain the only civilian casualties i can buy the alliance which blamed. technical failure a former pentagon official says the only thing clear about the nato campaign is the mountain casualty toll and it's inflicting on the even people they tried to achieve a certain level of humanitarian effort and initially but the protracted bombing is now increasingly hitting civilian targets and it's creating a very negative reaction i think it does raise the question of what is nato's role continued role going to be there as discontented actions increases other voices become more and more than. the voices of the libyan people. and it seems that the more anger they feel about nato the more they supported.

that this is the seventy's that. this is this is. the to. the. united states is that it was god. that. you want to deliver our message. is that. dying. raif notion or. up there is davidson is a professor of mideast history at west chester university told me nato is determined to see its libyan campaign through to the bitter end the queen the queen is that think that nato and its commanders and the president and the politicians

involved in this are beyond a point of no return so they simply cannot stop in terms of their own mind what they've invested in this and therefore they will end up doing whatever is necessary to secure victory in libya and they will project media stories to cover. and coming up in a few minutes when fighting terror breeds more terror u.s. troops tanks in pakistan and yemen keep claiming civilian lives causing an uproar among locals and said to get into the arms of the taliban we've got more on that coming up. next though the greek government which is trying to push through harsh austerity measures is facing a no confidence vote in parliament tonight that survival is a critical first step in securing a new loan from the e.u. designed to prevent a defaulting on its debts and triggering a eurozone crisis you finance ministers giving greece two weeks to force through

tax hikes and spending cuts in return for a twelve billion euro lifeline conditions are deeply unpopular with the greek public to discuss the unfolding drama in the parliament on the greek debt crisis has taught no to some terrorist flick of his he's lecturing at the university of the aegean he's joining us live from athens disappeared artistic spring where this blame for what's happening in greece right now is being thrown around like a hot potato was not any in your opinion who are the main contributors to the crisis in your country. and i think that's what we are experiencing is. a very deep social crisis the whole austerity package that had been implemented for at least a year has aggravated this crisis and that's why we are now facing this uprising this is a sort of a popular insurrection right now and we have all we have entered a phase of political crisis i mean i listened to you explaining that the government

is trying to pass the new low this is with it's not sure if this if this is going to happen i mean we have a government right now that last week sort of resigned and then decided to have a cabinet over how this is a sign of a very deep political crisis even if the government manages. to have the confidence vote tonight it's not sure if the. they can put up stand up to the pressure from the streets especially during the two day national strike at the days when the newest or the package is going to be discussed in parliament who wants the option here i mean are these do you prefer the proposed assertive measures are going to be very painful we've seen the protests it's going to be hard to imagine the greek public putting up with them but what other option is there. i think the only other the the option and what actually the people are demanding these are how the calibration tercel people say they do not want to pay this debt i think the

first step the first step to make things better would actually be added season from the greek part two for for for an immediate stoppage of dept payments we cannot afford this debt anymore is it right that you can people's run away or walk away from the debts that you've accrued as a country. no i think that this is this is some sort of an ideological blackmail stoppard's to payments to the debt or even anna newman of that does not mean that the country's been cut off from the rest of the world or the country is going to be bankrupt even now even a even if you look at government numbers. total taxation and government revenue can cater for salaries can't cater for social security can cater from the functioning of the greek state so the problem is we cannot when we are giving

twelve billion lifeline. to match the biggest part of which is going to be used to repay debt to repay previous dates totally absurd who do you blame you're a great you're a great man yourself must see me with a lot of sorrow sing a country in this mass shooting flame for it. why i think i have to blame cause. all the power all the previous governments including this one for those choices of policies they choose are very certain in a way developmental paradigm here in greece which was based on that season for the for working people but very low taxation for businesses especially big businesses there were governments who made the choice of overpriced for our own making our way big public works for example take for example the big works that public works that

were made for the olympic games which are now stands totally useless and is there to this have been political choices aggravated the problem of did not salary not social security payments ok well we're following what's happening with the very closely tonight of the next few hours and saying how that vote of confidence goes from now to tears but i got his lecture at the university of e.j. and thanks for your thoughts on the program. i've offered but it's his financial guru my skies says that the greeks are being fooled into paying off a debt they are not responsible for if you'd like to hear more about what the band has to say you can catch his thoughts on the scandals around the economic turmoil in greece in just over fifteen minutes time tonight on out. it's the annual aviation showcase for companies battling it out for control of the skies multibillion pound deals the show is underway outside paris in the past russia's always had a large presence there but this year is going all out with more planes on off than

ever before and the super jets mean the superstar among the delegation he said when a commission reports. the forty nine there is the air show russia's role the putting on display its newest development in civil aviation design and that is this and once the jets one hundred this super poit design bureau which is designing the jet has a right to receive numerous offers for the crowd but the primary hold for this craft is to replace most of the outdated to you one fifty four isn't t u one thirty four is just like the one which fell in korea on monday that is the hope of russian every nation of course though the designers of the sickly superjet are saying that the plane's design has its particular focus on the security systems of the controls so in the model out of the violence we make in the air with so it's kind of predicting the air that which could be made by a pilot therefore making the plane a much safer alternative to the already existing aircraft however when exactly this

secret was the project it will enter the fleet of russian aviation companies is not yet known. the latest road to trucks in pakistan that reportedly killed twelve hundred nine of them confirmed taliban fighters so the growing number of civilian deaths means more and locals are joining the militants and with the u.s. now turning its attention to yemen the uproar looks set to become even. the u.s. is looking to expand its war on terror but its methods are under fire in pakistan in the one year that cia drone strikes killed seven hundred civilians but net it only five actual militant leaders. in pakistan in a number of civilian casualties that result because of the drone strikes. that's like the taleban in all qaeda and other groups in pakistan to recruit new numbers and they're doing that. next hour in case many pakistanis are furious at their

government for helping the americans kill their own people they accuse their leaders of doing that in exchange for billions of dollars from washington americans on the other hand are not too happy with what they get in return for their billions to support governments or large ones when do say enough is enough most governments lie to each other that's the way business gets done in washington now sees yemen as the most dangerous outpost and he's planning to step up drone attacks on the country as stablish ing a base in the persian gulf specifically for that purpose especially now when bin ladin swear placement i'm on also ari is not to be building up as already significant presence in yemen. the us had been cooperated with yemeni counterterrorism forces in targeting al qaida but they've since left the field preoccupied instead with their nationwide turmoil against the sollie regime that means the americans are likely to have

a freer hand going it alone with the cia to take a central role because the agency is not subject to the accountability the us military is legally under expect more bombs to fall on yemen when the us starts to hit people who are members by the new arabian peninsula then i think the real worry is that it expands this war to the point where so many people join up with al qaeda their security. yemen over the killing of scores of civilians by the drone strikes in one attack there the american military presumably ming at an al qaida training camp ended up killing dozens of women and children in another strike a year ago a drone mistakenly killed a deputy governor in yemen his family and eight with the expansion of the wrong war it seems to go on seeking only in itself legally binding on the client i can only say some of the main feature in this is all the cases mark not having to put down the fourth symphony and that their mommy and the lack of accountability when it

comes to feel that the church that had more paradox the west strategy happy with that america is fighting and bomb three terror at the same time i am getting a check out reporting. next tonight the mystery of the disappearance of a prominent russian novelist has been sold edward bigot also has called a close friend we hear he's revealed in a moldova jail the authorities at last arrested a man who for two years had boasted of organizing mass riots there in two thousand and nine of his country in a zone of attacks of the story. written off russian writer the wife by get of was last seen on june sixteenth in the moldovan capital keesha now. a week later it's turned out that he had been detained by local authorities for allegedly masterminding public riots in april two thousand and nine then thousands of unhappy moldovans took to the streets protesting the results of the country's parliamentary elections opposition leaders accused the ruling communist party of falsifying their

votes by give himself frequently stated that he was in fact one of the organizers of the end rest but until now not many people took him seriously. i know he was there when the riots with taking place he doesn't deny that fact there anything but as far as organizing the riots would taking part in any kind of commotions that's ridiculous the only kind of action he would have gotten involved that would have been with the ladies not the police. and authorities however took him very seriously so seriously they issued an order for his arrest and even though he will officially remain behind bars for another month not many officials in question now are willing to admit the fact let alone talk about it on bills the day he's been arrested by the prosecutors his warrant was issued by the prosecutors and it's the prosecutor's office that should be on string questions about him which is providing

the cells where he's being held and prosecutors however aren't keen on admitting that responsibility in fact they're trying to avoid admitting anything at all when you don't have the most prosecutor general's office does not confirm nor deny the arrest of mr buy gear of those attempted stonewalling would have been effective had the russian consulate staff not gone and visited the men in prison would you consider on the twenty first of june that consular employees from the russian embassy in will do visited big here if he did not express. complaints about his living conditions or the way the investigation was going says he's using the services of a qualified private moldovan lawyers currently in investigation is being carried out by moldova thirty it's in accordance with a court decision he'll be held for thirty days from the embassy is money story in the situation. the what i get of detention could have been completely were team legal process but the very fact that moved over to dorothy's are still refusing to

part with any coherent information concerning the case is definitely not doing them any favors and it's showcasing the prosecutor's office one of their e. unfortunately. catron as are the r t moscow so business and finance of the next thirty minutes for you the latest money scandals of mice causes installment of the cause report shortly after a business update right now on the. follow welcome to aunty's business bulletin the euro is facing a slow death says former british foreign secretary jack straw even the most recognize the currency is vulnerable to shock declines can vaccinate from sex a bank explains how he thinks this will impact on russia but the thing with russia to remember is that no matter what really happens internally it's still regarded for the most part as an emerging market economy and as such as much as odds on like

to use the fries there is very much the risk on risk off mantra priding within the water financial markets now as with any other emerging market economy when is a general response. economies and countries such as russia are in favor and that means increased foreign direct investment flow of money and as soon as the murderer of all turns in the market and there's a risk off sentiment or risk aversion then just as quickly as the money came into russia it flows just as quickly as the the only thing obviously the mine did. here is that obviously being rich of natural resources of oil being predominantly amongst the. russia has a slightly different different nature of the impact they can play out on its economy so while the central bank maintains its policy of raising rights battle insulation and oil stays relatively high and some of its profits russia probably

shouldn't feel any more effects all over and above what it's already. looking at the markets know oil prices are mixed up to earlier gangs as traders are on easy about greece's parliamentary confidence vote light sweet is trading at ninety three dollars a barrel want brant is around one hundred ten dollars a barrel but in the u.s. the markets are responding positively to the potential outcome of tuesday's confidence in the greek government the nasdaq is two percent in the black with the down just over a percent up and here moscow trade closed on a positive note tuesday the l.c.s. was driven high have by energy and financial stocks on the be found in crude. that's all the business for now but you can always keep out today online at r.t. dot com forward slash business stay with us for headlines there.

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a human voice face to face with the news makers. it's eleven thirty pm choose the night here in moscow you're watching the r.t. international news channel with me kevin our top stories for you flight recorders from the plane that crashed in northwestern russia killing forty four and injuring eight of being delivered to moscow for analysis bad weather conditions and human error believed of course the incident. also from us at least fifteen more civilians killed as nato bombers may top the duffy aid but instead the perth a party of this four year old grandson prompted libyans to question the intervention tasked with protecting them. and showed out of the greek parliament tonight the pm faces a no confidence vote on whether the pa savagely austerity cuts in return for cash

lifeline or to become a first euro zone nation to default on its debt we've got more on that throughout the night and next hour most keyser on coast stacy hurt us what effect mountains of debt can have one a nation's self-esteem the kaiser report is on the. backstabber welcome to the kaiser report as we have been reporting financial melt. made the world uninhabitable for capital and so now we live in a financial no go zone you are slaves of the talks of debt that have been created a fall in which we are mr wealth and little of the talks explodes slow cheap station herbert tell us more max well i have proof of this not only the revolution happening in greece but we have the financial propaganda to convince you the slave

of this toxic debt farm to continue incurring more debts one better self-esteem saddle yourself with mountains of credit card debt new study clean yes being crushed under a mountain of debt is typically frowned upon max but new research has suggested this could actually be a dream scenario for many young adults it claims those saddling themselves with credit card debt will feel empowered and feel more self-esteem well i guess this research was financed by j.p. morgan chase. perhaps but the research was actually conducted by rachel dwyer an assistant sociologist at ohio state university and her study found that eighteen to twenty seven year olds who had huge credit card debts not just small credit card debts but huge ones and university loan debts members.