these are the images you're not seeing elsewhere the real faces the real casualties of war are keys one of a few outlets still reporting from libya we haven't left but i don't have that nato forces so as the toll of that war getting too much to bear. and obama the optimist foreign investment in america seems to be the president's latest plan to save the economy solid strategy or a desperate attempt to create hope and the balloon. very very. close her. own children ok or not but

balloon and glenn beck prepared to bask in the light of their new ventures these old giants really the face of alternative media and will their star soar or come to a crash and burn. good evening it's tuesday june twenty first four pm here in washington d.c. we see caffein of and in watching r.t. well the death toll is rising in libya and the culprit isn't some bloodthirsty dictator but the very same forces there on a mission to supposedly liberate that country now the latest bungled nato air strike has claimed the lives of more civilians and this time the inclusion of true taller is among the latest death toll as the alliance struggling to defend its credibility now richie's marie off an ocean of reports on the ground in tripoli and filed this report. another day has brought more death and destruction to libya a large private company and west of the capital tripoli has been leveled reduced to

rubble in the parents as a strike rescues have discovered the remains of fifteen people according to libyan officials. the houses destroyed belonged to daniel gould the other moody one of the people closest to colonel gadhafi he was among those who took part in the military coup to bring the libyan leader to power forty one years ago the general escaped injury but most of his family died in the attack if you see. this man is talking about. one of the grandchildren of the general and one of three kids killed in the incident the day of the bombing the family had gathered with friends to celebrate his fourth birthday. libyan civilians found it is when attacked in the airlie hours of this morning killing fifteen people including three were

children are. mothers. but. the number is fifteen people nato has denied these claims just as its never committed the death of more than eight hundred others believe in government says were killed by their bombs the nine people killed in sunday's bombing of a residential building in tripoli remain the only civilian casualties i can all of the lines which blamed a mistake if you weapons technical failure a former pentagon official says the only thing clear about the nato campaign is the mountain casualty toll and damage it's inflicting on believin people they try to achieve a certain level of humanitarian effort and initially but the protracted bombing is now increasingly hitting civilian targets and it's creating a very negative reaction i think it does raise the question of what is needles role

continued role going to be there as discontented sections and crazies are the voices become more and more about to the voices of the libyan people. and it seems that the more anger they feel about nato the more they support their leader. has to say that's what this is the circumstance was. this is. the. challenge was. to. stay in the united states that was. set up in. the end. we will we want to deliver all of this is.

what's certain is that. dying. r t three quickly. now on a doe's libyan mission the mission continues many voices here in the u.s. are calling for an end to this conflict and one of them is former u.s. attorney general ramsey clark who joins us live now from new york mr clark thank you so much for taking the time to speak to us i really do appreciate it. more of course is never meant to be a pretty thing it's a serious business and you know when accidents happened well the consequences are really serious too shouldn't these civilian casualties be seen in the broader context of a mission to supposedly help the people of libya against a terrible regime i think the civilian casualties in fact all of it please you to be seen in the context of a war of aggression which nurnberg charter and in your bird judgment defined

as the supreme international crime. new united states initially or and perhaps still now to some degree or nato has a right to attack of. libya hundred international it's not the first time i want to be in one nine hundred eighty six after president reagan because the attack on tripoli and benghazi killing hundreds of civilians there at that time and first the first target was the compound were current but i feel of it that they hit the office wearing the same one you see in the pictures today they hit a can't help in the compound their way on. in the middle of a grassy field they hit a home killed a small child a daughter of of the head of state the time of government and here we go again it's a war of aggression going to be condemned as the supreme international crime that it is if it's the supreme international crime or are you saying the president of

united states is a criminal and if so what consequences should he face. well the united states is the principal instigator and president is. the chief executive officer of the united states and one of our constitution so there's no declared war that congress is upset about that our constitution requires there be a declaration of war by the congress. so far the congress had declared many wars of aggression it's declared war getting under war should have been a good way or to. really interest of the united states and it's unclear if they i doubt that they would have rejected the president's plan had he gone to congress but but i guess the broader question is you know if you look at the history of warfare in the united states every single president since reagan has had a war of his own so to speak. is there a culture of aggression and warfare that we're fighting for that's broader than

just libya yes of course it goes back before reagan. remember the korean war bloody bloody war three or four million people killed for no reason except. you start to dominate the korean peninsula and divide it the most unified society on the planet at that time culturally never fought in a war off its own soil and suddenly divided and. mutilated by huge armies marching against each other time and time again for years but mr clark it was much easier vietnam and vietnam of course it was much easier though in those days with that with the limited media to control the message by the white house by the congress by the by the forces in power now the people do have access to this information base see the consequence of the wars why do you think there isn't broader support behind messages like yours to end these conflicts why are folks like yourself marginalized and c.n.n.

with all due respect sometimes that's french by by that means to an establishment. well i think the mainstream media is still they don't want to. be former and opinion setter. you know facebook and all these things are seen as kind of an entertainment or a game or irrelevant or but not not the serious word and not the official word so. he the domination of the media by the same interests that she will leave military industrial complex. is a threat to life on earth and who stands to benefit from this i mean do you see any any indication that more folks will sign on to what you're saying and i don't actually demand an answer to that and less seemingly endless therefore when we've seen what's happened throughout the arab world we've seen the heroic.

struggle of the people of egypt for freedom after many generations of ameri violent dictatorial government supported by the united states said octon who bark for decades is hardly a two hundred fifty people are in the streets as early as two years ago in cairo because of fear you have to bring foreigners in that would be the majority of the protest and finally with the getting in and to use it in cross the arab world and beyond they are see people wrong they're not going to take it anymore they're tired of the repression and and the misery of their lives which is that it's the it's the very dictators that united states supported all these years put in place and are still in places like yemen and saudi arabia and emirates for the most part they're under attack that. me with the protests and it's

those who are independent of united states life of libya as iraq was it would be with united states want to read every trouble with us wars of aggression well a heavy toll indeed for for independence and not lining up with the with the interests in power mr clark i really do appreciate you taking your time thank you so much and when it comes to war it's all too easy to forget the ugly truth behind that little three letter word splashed across a headline or dissected on the t.v. screens war becomes an abstract a talking point an idea that has little to do with the actual devastation that it reads now what we're about to show you is graphic which is why you're probably not likely to see it on other networks but this this is it's this is the face of war take a look the consequence of taxpayer dollars and guns planes tomahawk missiles this

is the devastation they reap will be right up. into the we are there with the mechanisms to do the work to bring just the sort of the weather. i have every right to know what my government doing you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. right well when it comes to the u.s. economy good news it seems as hard to come by of course no one knows that better than a president who is busy trying to convince americans to keep him in office for yet a second term despite soaring unemployment plummeting our home sales payrolls grinding to a near hold but the president did manage to find one little piece of good news

maybe the rest of the world may not love america's foreign policy when it comes to its assets it seems the united states has not lost its sex appeal and that's according to the white house which said foreign investment rose by nearly fifty percent and twenty ten great news right so it's a great new plan to save this economy or a giant welcome mat for foreign investors reading we're open for business and will it work well for the answers let's turn to mike pancho he's a senior economist at euro pacific capital and joins us now from new york mike thank you so much for being here when we have an administration rolled out this this new question right this new piece of positive economic news saying it's essentially asking the world to show up at our doorstep with business plans and paychecks is this a sound strategy to create new jobs or desperate cry for help. truculently . you know.

well or. was billion dollar. million dollars. a way to tell you. what. it. was really. and truly. when. so i mean you know obviously if something goes down because of a giant crash and i think i don't know if we can show it here we have the graphic behind us not sure if the cameras come here there we go so yeah i mean sure it rose gap by fifty percent nearly fifty percent but look at where used to be so i mean what's the what's the about obama administration doing here painting putting

lipstick on a pig well you should actually. a . little. bit i mean about that. great i told. you what it. really should be fighting inflation. but showing it was really like you go you know you did. well michael those other strategies you mentioned sound like there is they take a little bit more work than a nice press release so i'm not sure i'll hold my breath for that but i mean the surprising thing about the strategy or whatever you want to call it is that how out of line it is with frankly the typical fear mongering that we see out of washington

i mean you know the japanese were demonized two decades ago for buying up american corporate signals we saw the scandal over the divide ports deal we saw china wasn't allowed to buy a company an energy company that it wanted to buy so why are why do we see this flip from a foreign equals bad to suddenly foreign it equals good. well you certainly there are some good news if they are going to read and read it every right there's a need i say to ready wonder radical if you are also and you know countries but because of our huge balance of payment better they are anyway they do jump on the. driver. which they do right. by i was. honest. i never do solutions everyone who was interested in the future. tax benchers this isn't good news we're not americans are working through we're

actually powers in a great night show you can only trade that really was a nation on the planet earth we. calculated and greet. each year in the path patiently. for you know. what it actually going to do a us dollar rices is going to lead to us by market crisis well i. can't reach the bomber but the reserve. that's been said that all sounds pretty damn scary to me i mean if that's the case then what do you dearly simple cuts are going are going to are going to do the job then and i don't even know if that if the fed can change policy in time to avert this crisis they speak out so if you were obama what would you be doing in his shoes or personal i would i was fired because here i replaced my laptop go back. and balance the budget i all

debt ceiling isn't raised you know we have two point two trillion dollars in income and we are back trillion. trillion dollars in debt goes away and we. wonder what is strange ikea only then will each age in. very far like you're living within our means that must be something that those chinese came up but i never heard of that here in this country mike thank you so much. thank you so much that was my plan says senior economist at euro pacific capital. right well you don't have to be a fan of either to know that keith olbermann and glenn beck are polar opposites when it comes to politics and life from one supposed giant paychecks from their cable news employers the two men have very little in common until now so after years of generating both ratings and headaches for their respective networks both men are trading in their mainstream podiums for new ventures betting that the strength of their personal brands will somehow guarantee success even if that means

starting over on smaller risky or so-called alternative television platforms or she's honestly on this to see a turkey has a story. so i think it's french for it's despised by some lot by others they certainly can't stand each other who makes you weak more for journalism keith olbermann or me the less than one percent of the country that watches your listens to his show thinking they are not listening to an educated imperceptibly. can these mainstream media stars shine just as bright in the scary world of alternative media after years of mad chalkboard ing fox news channel's glenn beck is about to step off america's t.v. screens as spock shows him the door it's imperative that now as responsible citizens who are awake we don't just sit in front of our t.v.'s and say yeah yeah oh my god squirmed back what an amazing broadcaster i'm going to miss the tears i'm

going to all the lies i'm going to miss the propaganda that will now take all that to his own web network. to get started it's called t.v. . the truth lives here. access to this truth will cost cash as beck's fans will have to subscribe to tune in turn the damn t.v. off right now if you have to at one point he was of the three point one million viewers how many of those three point one million are going to we want to plunk down less than five bucks a month to see the guy it's difficult to to have people pay for something they've been getting for free the whole time one person who won't have trouble pocketing the big bucks is former emerson b.c. star keith olbermann several months after being dropped by the network reportedly for making campaign contributions to democrats he's appearing on a new platform current t.v. channel co-founded by former vice president and the face of america's green movement establishment our war the whole idea of having

a broadcast network is they have viewers it's all about having viewers and nobody watches current right now nobody watches it. i could yell out my window and more people would hear me probably and if i was the. channel hopes that will change with a liberal pundit hopping on board for a reported i popping ten million dollars a year a satisfying three million dollar raise from older means emmis n.b.c. days a much bigger corporate own network that may be the sort of thing where the first night the first week while he's got three million people watching him in week three does it go down to twenty three thousand at that point i think people are currently start sharing their fingers down to their knuckles and thinking what have we done while it'll take time to show which gambles pay off and which are all messages are likely to stick even on new platforms oligarch. the one that's missing is why. i don't know for turning into an oligarch hear what we're turning into but

unless you ask why. we're going to transform into something i got a question. don't you or hers. all ignore he or did obama still order see what's unlikely mainstream media stars jumping the mainstream ship becoming a trend the worm comfort of sleeping in bed with a corporate pillow it's too cozy for most others to get up and leave i don't think there are enough movies in the world to convince o'reilly that he should you know hang it up i think o'reilly is in this for the better. so fans relax one sided shouting matches are not going anywhere for now and they say if you're going to archie new york. all right well when keith olbermann was interviewed by rolling stone magazine recently about his new venture he said that glenn beck and i were in the same boat but what is that vote and more importantly where that head is it's failing to force only time will tell but in the meanwhile we decided to pose that

question to someone who knows a thing or two about alternative news stem seeders a host of the majority report and here's his take. they're both leveraging their personal brand that they can sell to the smaller. and hoping never and will follow them there i mean it's not a. precise of flippancy because you know of minutes long cable television people can stumble upon him in a way that they can't necessarily stumble on going back to glenn beck you have to go to a specific u.r.l. you could theoretically. infantilism and find. all of them in on cable but there is a similar. move to basically walking away from a larger corporate structure and. using the the attractiveness of their own brand to have their fans follow them and it isn't doesn't say more about the family or the mainstream channels and supporting alternative views or is it just too isolated

cases where i decided to make their lives for whatever personal reasons then you know well i actually think i think it's a combination of the former in that there is a failure by the corporate media to. reach certain audiences but it's also in many ways sort of the natural evolution of pep knology i mean we've seen people in music do this you know musical acts and who have left the corporate structure of their their record labels and are you know standing out there are distributing near their music independently this is their next step and i'd be surprised to see more i mean in many ways this is very similar to what howard stern did with satellite radio he left a certain corporate structure to wrestle radio had it into a place where it was a little bit more fellows where it was a little or specifically for him and his product and i think this is we're going to see more of this going forward so i have to ask i mean even in the case of keith

olbermann for example i mean you know he's not going over to democracy now to earn whatever salaries those hard working folks are and i think he's going to be reportedly on. ten million dollars a year i mean is this really leaving the corporate structure for some new sorts of alternative media or maybe much of the old same just couched in a in a different brand well no actually i mean i think i mean i think the ten million dollar figure i'm not sure how accurate that is i know that the but out there but the difference is is that currency be privately owned it is not a corporate behemoth that is also making ball bearings or nuclear subs or some other product fox news is just one part of the larger media empire so the difference is that there's going to be less minefields in terms of what or when to deal with i mean on on is from your night his last guest talk about why he didn't ban from m s n b i think you're going to see a lot more taking on of corporate power because there is no corporate entity

that that will be able to control it and so it really is a change it's not so much his salary it's much as the independence that comes with a with a media company that is not owned by a corporation that you know offshore jobs you know. around the world so i do think there is actually going to be a big difference so i do agree with you that there's a major giant difference between a general electric the parent of a fantasy and current t.v. but at the same time just to push back a little bit i mean this is still a you know the brainchild of al gore whether you agree with us politics or not he is by all accounts an established elite insider if it's not the equivalent of state democracy now or some more grassroots funded organization so could we really expect a change in the message and you know see this as a real alternative media frenzy or well you know i mean i actually think so i mean

i don't go you know i don't go either al gore or goldman enough. where they disagree on policy but i imagine it's not fair. different than you know al gore is no no general election you know at the end of the day i don't expect development to be from democracy now but i think that has more to do with what he's interested in talking about and where his focus lies and less about there's going to be any management saying you can't discuss this and. i really do think there's going to be. there is a big difference but on that note i mean wouldn't it be more productive to take whatever amount of money that's going to be advising maybe you know use that for independent man in the street journalist that really do that kind of grassroots reporting that that's that's moving the country away from a persona based following or is that just unrealistic because you know it's persona i guess attract viewers and self not ratings in this case i think that's the nature of. this industry. sickly when you're talking about the polls is

both reports but it's also a commentary so i think you're wrong on a very. specific individuals because the way they comment what they're willing to factor with how they present is relevant i mean you know i don't think that the this is implicated in the broader problems that we may have with our media which i think are frankly broader societal issues and very briefly you know glenn beck purports to be preaching to mainstream america that same agent mainstream that suffering from unemployment to housing right house prices etc etc i mean these folks really going to shell out for ninety five a pop if not more to listen to their romance these. days i'm paying. for their cable and and other expenses i would imagine if the boardroom. or ninety five will be worth it for them to maintain i would suggest lucian's that he

sells them. for. good or be bathing in that type of greatness. and i reply i've been too good to be able i guess who needs food and clothing when i will save your soul thank you so much that was sam seder host of the majority were part. of all that doesn't for now as always if you missed this newscast or want to more info on the stories that we brought to you today just go to our web site that's our view dot com slash u.s.a. so is our you tube channel you tube dot com slash r t america if you want to connect with me let me know what you thought of the show so just the stories that you want to see r.t. cover and follow me on twitter it's at lucy tough enough we'll be right back here in a half an hour thanks for watching. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is your view with the global mission.