gone alternative means one of those you can just get. into that only a military mechanisms can do the work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government would not want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like a sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here sees some other part of it and realize that everything is all you don't know i'm trying hard welcome to the big picture says.

let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think iraq even funny well. whenever the government says they're for keep you safe get ready because you give them their freedom. for. four to five.

all right it's time for show and tell on tonight's program and last time we discussed the legal justification of the white house for why they didn't ask congress for approval to go to war in libya they said that it didn't count as hostilities of the way of the war powers act and get but some members of congress are fighting back so we want to know who comes out on top of this argument and is libya really a war that u.s. forces haven't been devoted to let's go to producer trees in a sense to find out what you have to say. this is how most of the world sees u.s. involvement in libya it looks like a hostile war zone because it is but if the president is assuring us what we're

doing there isn't hostile so apparently the white house sees the conflict in libya like this so we want to know what you thought is it a war has the us devoting troops to the conflict there samantha said flat out the president is not authorized to commit american forces into a war without congressional approval jacket when he agrees he said it is definitely unconstitutional they talk about boots on the ground but what about the billion dollars worth of bombs so now the bigger picture is starting to unfold and admin said the u.s. has sent drones cruise missiles conducting countless strikes if that is in that occasion i don't know what it ok it looks like the real question here is how could you not consider the conflict in libya hostile the troops on the ground rhetoric doesn't seem to be fooling anyone what the white house is doing is setting a dangerous precedent that drone strikes the missile attacks are not the definition of involved in hostilities. oh and don't forget the pentagon wants five billion

dollars for drones next year so it looks like they're not involved in hostilities strategy could be used to get around the war powers act for decades. now as always thank you for your responses and here's our next topic for you we showed you a c.n.n. poll earlier in the show where more respondents reflected a libertarian view points that in previous years so i want to know what you think is libertarianism going at main street and america you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make you know . now as we promised yesterday we're going to continue to tell you about police raids that go wrong and what do you know another police raid has left a civilian day and happen virginia local law enforcement is serving a drug warrant on a sixty nine year old man when he got to the door william cooper allegedly fired a handgun at police and ultimately he was shot dead in the cost returned fire even though this incident happened just a few days ago a lot of people are critical of the way the drug war was carried out for starters

we should note that witnesses to the scene couldn't confirm if the older man fired first friends of cooper say that he was very friendly but he was most likely started by cops busting down the door and they added people around or sleep with a gun beside their bed because of all the home invasions that we've had the guy was a nice guy the guy was a good guy so you think the local police would maybe take that into consideration when they're busting down the door of a sixty nine year old man as of now nobody has said whether or not any narcotics are found in two percent but the local police department has made every effort to tell the media that they feel validated and they're returning gunfire any time there's a loss of life it's a tragedy in this instance because officers are involved it's not only ready for the court for the family members who lost a loved one it's also a tragedy for the police officers that are in their lives were also never be the same. well those cops might have considered this a tragic incident as well but i'd argue that their lives and never being the same is quite different than cooper whose life was ended altogether. local police

continue to defend the officers who killed them saying that they were met with deadly force and had no alternative other than to return fire really maybe you should yell police a little louder before you start busting down people's doors in the middle of the night maybe you shouldn't be knocking the doors down of people or prescription drugs either that's just how frankly the details surrounding the story and the death are still fishy and if the police are already so firmly defending their peers i doubt that anyone who cries foul voice is going to be allowed to be heard but what's worse is how the police are acting as if their own boys in blue are forever scarred by this shooting their saw a life cooper is dead so perhaps the cops in hampton just aren't changing their message on this one. so last night we saw the debut of keith olbermann new gig current t.v. of course with the exact same name and the same music that he had over and as m.d.c. in fact it's pretty much the same of everything minus a few obvious steps down in production value it wasn't a groundbreaking alternative media above the fray kind of show in

a special comment for the evening overman promised to take on a fight. this is to be a newscast of contextualization and it is to be presented with the viewpoint that the weakest citizen of this country is more important than the strongest corporation but the nation is losing its independence through the malfeasance of one political party and the timidity of another and that even though you and i should not have to be the last line of defense presently we are so we damn well better start being the words thing is when it came to bringing on contributor markos moulitsas from the daily kos kind of part of the same insider baseball four minute rant about how joe scarborough is a tyrant but you haven't been on cable television since may twelfth two thousand and ten y. for. well it seems that your old boss had a little problem with me i was under the impression that you were in charge of your own gas that you can decide who can speak on your show and it was about that sold in the rachel maddow and the rest of the lineup on m.s.n. b.c. turns out that joe scarborough his veto power over who can speak and everybody else

is shows they got. are really what keith mad by the week is citizen being more important than the strongest corporation so he thought maybe he is the worst person and second that would be a corporation maybe the executive that has been held accountable we helped. first sight of the last million occurrences of conductor a new york suburban commuter rail line metro north actually intervene when the passenger you've been stuck next to a least once in the way of a plane or a bus or train probably talk to well we've that was also allegedly swearing. a lady swearing on a subway not so much of that us versus them so what we say about the new countdown is just more of the same joining me to discuss this is christopher chambers lecturer at georgetown university and author of the blog natural revenge chris thanks so much for being here if you ok what were your first thoughts on a new show i was missing some of the of the passion was there was right overhead but where is this where alternative i'm doing things differently this time around.

it's alternative in that he's not a major outlet. is curves of the demographic that he's going after current t.v. is almost like a national geographic channel discovery for kind of a hipster demo where they want to see documentaries investigative reporting stuff they go to current so it's alternative and it's not you know stodgy n.b.c. but it's true he has to really keep his brand going and you know you know to ease into it you don't just jump into it you know he's not going to go in there naked or nuclear war on john boehner ok but let me let me read you a quote and this is something that he said at a press conference he was talking about his show and what he wanted to achieve he said what we're trying to do is something that is utterly different than what's been done with television news in the last thirty years since the advent of cable and the breaking down of that used to be the wall between news and everything else a television network. that's. going to be completely and utterly degraded anything

that on t.v. in the last thirty years he has the same music basically the same ground and it was the same old insider baseball republicans versus democrats i didn't see what he was promising especially common which was standing up for the people versus the corporations and a lawmaker is going to anything part i could only. you know stay tuned it might be a ploy it's marketing and hucksterism one on one or it might be all b.s. i mean we don't know i mean this guy you know he's pretty cagey guy i mean i think he's trying to suck an audience and you know he's got his brand he's got his target groups that follow him over but he's also got the current demos and people that watch her and he wants to bring them in so he's got it i think he's going to do it a little easier these going to ease into it he's not he's not a lunatic great i think that people are looking though they're looking for something different right there while you're somebody who is willing to step up and i think it's his man not do the that's how we see versus. the hopes to resume part

i think he did overplay the alternative that people think of alternative there's all that's a very pregnant word and so i think that you know when current and him and he's a great self marketer use that term everything all the wheels start turning in the audience's mind he didn't really deliver on it i think the next time he's got to start delivering on what i'm just wondering what do you think the current strategy is at the end of august do they really want to be this alternative channel they've been for years quite frankly that's it may not that many people have heard they have a tiny tiny little viewership compared to you could say the cable networks or do they want to actually be one of them oh i think so i think they want to be this big network for the you know eighteen to thirty them oh we don't because if you look at those shows where they have marvelous investigative reporting that you know documentaries and stuff like that now they have him i mean they have a cooking shows i mean i think they want to be they want to be their own little universe i mean as opposed to someone like glenn beck was trying to start basically

his own cult you know i mean that's truly alternative because he's building it around himself you know it's almost like pat robertsons you know p.p.l. club i mean that's a true alternative model right there i think that olbermann is just basically part of the you know a weapon a star that they can. could bring out what is it going to be i mean at the end of the day right they still have commercials they still have these corporate right. to have that ring of corporate media not as much as he was used to but i mean it wasn't really corporate media he had a problem with it without was there. and i think that there he's going to i think he's going to be turned loose a little bit more in terms of administratively how he's going to run his show but. i mean if the reports are true he is getting ten million dollars a year that's a that's a huge. part of them but we're not even come i don't know what they're actually go you the shelf and yesterday it didn't look like you know you got it all coming from

al gore's pocket he was with the people the story of courage i don't know i mean the flip side of this is you could have the disaster that happened to sirius radio when they decided to basically mortgage the earth moon and stars to howard stern and to restructure because of that you know i think they're looking at it that that's a model for the industry but i think you know i think because of the tenor of his show the product that he puts out i think bill miller together pretty well so alternative no but a good fit yes probably do you know anything as you know much about al gore's partner in this venture as to you know are saying it and maybe isn't coming on live all chorus pocket but what about the other people involved i'm not really so sure about the corporate structure there again i don't know where they got the money from i mean if somebody is bentley probably has a new car note on it at this point but i mean i don't really know where they got the money from because they're going to suck the money away from the stuff that's made them a name like vanguard like they're investigative documentaries they're going to have a problem i guess we'll have to wait to see if that's actually and that being worth

it for that but he thought or not only is he getting timeline r.c.u. reportedly he also then gets to have a stake in the company probably of a similar big say but. you know if you know money for the overman fans one of the exact same thing you know i guess that's exactly they got that. i think the younger people want something if you're probably right like take care thanks so much for your good night. so come time we have our tools side award which calls out a governor for signing a new immigration bill that's workers to flee his state and then stick around for happy hour a man robs a bank just to get health care and are the amish being corrupted by technology to have that morning return. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else hears you some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm charged welcome to the big picture.

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leg. i think rocket. funny well. whenever the governor says they're going to keep him safe get ready because their freedom. harrison presides tool time awarded tonight it goes to a georgia governor nathan deal and the republican governor was elected to office last november and recently he signed

a tough new immigration law starting on july first the georgia law enables law enforcement officers to question all criminal suspects about their immigration status it also requires employers to verify the immigration status of new employees there are a federal database before hiring that deal say the state had to act but it legal population that is estimated to be almost one here million could collect the financial cost jory educational health care and correctional infrastructure is in the billions. but the now a deal the rest of his republican lawmaker friends who passed that bill are dealing with a few other major issues a lack of migrant workers illegal immigrants who work in the fields picking fruit and vegetables are now leaving the states in huge numbers which is really shocking since they're under attack and a study by the state of georgia released last week found that more than eleven thousand agricultural jobs remain vacant during this which is the busiest picking season for fruits and vegetables just listen to

a few vendors in atlanta who are afraid of they're not going to be able to get a steady supply from southern georgia. reach. this well you say people. that there is a group who is doing a reading which is of georgia farmers are all the lawmakers who voted for this bill actually paying the farmers in the state would be affected by the immigration bill here georgia's called the peach state because of its world famous peach crops they ever tasted of my daily onion their sweet on the ends are only grown in the state of georgia so if you can't tell agriculture is kind of big business in this state they produce more than five billion dollars a year in revenue with that and farmers are not the only ones facing the hardships because of this new law. well some people are moving around you know like north carolina a fantasy some people don't but in mexico if i have no license and i'm not going to be legalized i can't work. so i'm just wondering and

a slow economy is it really good to be chasing workers and their money out of the state well they may have been there illegally they were contributing they were working because of things the politicians don't like to bring up the immigrant population is a huge contributor to our economy and that is a fact we need to figure out how to deal with it properly sell governor nathan deal how's that new immigration law working out for you you know the one that's not even a law yet and it's already costing your state money that's why it's tools i'm winner. ok it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening are two producer jenny churchill and catherine santow warren brookes journalism fellow at the competitive enterprise institute ladies thank you for joining me. big news today there's a new g.o.p. candidate that's entered the race and we've been covering it obviously because it's

important to see who might be running to be president next but there's something different about this guy take a look. today. i'm a candidate for the office of president of the united states of america. all right here comes the magic question do you think that john huntsman is hot you know i think he seems like a creepy camp counselor creepy camp counselor. i announce that we're doing up on fire he's excited tonight guys running for president come on what do you say i think the president is a story about a very good looking tall man who are tall person who controls who you know oversees the government and i think this is a guy who is trying to sell himself as a sort of like hot younger looking guy let's. honest mean in american culture today

these days in our sound bite culture especially when a lot of people just see their president and you know still shots are they going to be like a little two second blurb on t.v. good looking people probably have a better chance of getting elected probably jon huntsman has a better chance of getting elected then chris christie and that's something that people have said you know in polls people are written about it because that's just the type of culture that we are but we had a little fun and we found some pictures that we could compare john huntsman to. newt gingrich of. bathing suit so it wasn't about their politics and it was just about their looks if that blood flowing is obviously ron paul i'm sure i don't know how many kids you have what was the number. i mean for me it's not about looks for me it's about kind of the feeling that you get about a candidate it's about you know how endearing they are to you how real they seem to you how honest they seem to you and that really has nothing to do with how they look and you're just not playing along with. your own whether he's hot or not they

will john kerry was a good looking guy i really disliked him because i thought he was smart. john kerry is not good looking. about his politics i think he's a good looking man and i think you can separate those two things but i think a good looking thing does a really big job and i think that's i'm just trying to say in his country it does make things easier and quite frankly if i'm going to have to be covering you know what these people say and do until the next presidential election with mine for one of them is good looking. at. least one gone through another story this one's a lot more serious actually so they actually say is now about to release their new smoking labels on packs of cigarettes and they're pretty graphic this is the first change under twenty three twenty five years they've made labels and some of them they said they were trying to pull on your emotional heartstrings because sometimes they felt like it was too graphic and people just tend to tune it out and some of them while they just wanted to be really graphic like the. the smoking through your

neck obviously we can't say with that but that's a term you do you think about going to turn kids my favorite cigarette out of ever seen was a cigarette turns out it was a couple that man happy in bed and there was a cigarette and said it happens to everyone smoking makes it happen more and it's one of them. again and again sex sells and if you don't people their sex life is going to be ruined if they smoke but it probably has a better chance of making them quit rather than showing a picture of a crying baby it's just i want to know what's your take a lot i want to know what you think what's my take about it i mean i think of those i don't think those will necessarily work i think that like hopefully they will deter and when it comes to young kids i think that visions really can stand out in your mind they can make it in french i don't know if anybody was already smoking is really going to take that much time looking at the back to cigarettes really thinking about it right at that minute but i just i ask because i couldn't help at all a parallel to the story at the beginning of the shell about the pictures from libya and showing the reality of what's happening there and that's kind of how i feel

about these cigarette ads you know they might not be pleasant but this is the reality of smoking a cigarette absolutely so. kills. is ok this one's just kind of fun so. just like the story twenty one year old amish man was arrested in indiana because he arranged a sexual encounter with a twelve year old via text message and apparently he sent her hundreds of dirty texts including pictures of his penis and lewd videos you know it's one thing i guess we've come to expect politicians and people like anthony weiner doing it but are the amish being corrupted by technology other couldn't use technology that was part of their whole thing so i know because i really am views about this so there are a few aspects of those that are really confusing one is apparently most amish people have cell phones which kind of blew my mind i guess it's because it's because of business or. since they have to have cell phones. and also to start taking pictures

of themselves i thought that was completely against the business. there you go there you go i mean it's business can you do it can you break all the rules of it's good for business to talk about the really funny part of the story they set up a sting where he showed up in his i'm sorry it was like. you know you need for a very have to bust down a door and excessive violence because the guy's on a buggy and i think he's going to get away from the police car do they have the horse has impounded coco's aswat where i'm sure they should ask the forfeiture. ok. the last. guy let's just well let's just play the news that i think will explain the story for you. you want you want to rescue. changes

hoping for a three year sentence i think your seat and be able to collect social security when he gets out. so that's just a sad state of affairs james there worked for coca-cola for seventeen years and he was laid off three years ago and then he started noticing that he had you know medical problems and so he actually went to a bank to rob a dollar and told them that i'm just waiting to go to jail so i can get treated like i had a guy who was blogging as a lesbian in the middle east is not the same. guy you know the story is actually really sad in some way or the other stories in the wedding you always hear about homeless people trying to purposely get arrested to get away from the cold and i think it's really really sad that we have to house people putting themselves in jail to get the types of things that they need to survive to make us feel like oh wow this is a problem in new york every year the. there's hundreds of people every single night

probably in d.c. to call ambulance and call my man one just to get picked up and taken to the hospital to get a good you know a good night's sleep and a hot meal it's sad but you know. not the right way but it's sad but if you think about it no it's not the right way and then that's when people start getting angry because they say though these people are wasting my taxpayer dollars by calling nine one one of they're wasting my money by going to jail i'm paying for these prisoners to stay there maybe that's why i have to start thinking about our priorities are being made before you actually has more homeless shelters or we actually treated health care is something that is a right thing to have this problem literally in the people it is clearly why do you want out of the you actually are pro-choice i mean you out of her our girl thanks for joining me tonight for having us ok that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and make sure you come back tomorrow lawrence wilkerson is going back on the show to discuss obama's announcement about america's involvement in afghanistan in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of halo show on facebook and follow us on twitter and he missed the tonight show or any other nights you can always catch hell if you tube dot com slash the

long show very close the interviews as well as the show in its entirety we have next is adam vs the man. in the war in the. but in june nine hundred forty one these walls were the first barrier financing troops on their way to moscow. arrests were done one by one under siege. one. i've. done the last show an unnamed soldier left a few simple words farewell motherland. but i'm not surrendering.

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