actually when sarah because he was elected in two thousand and seven he was considered to be in atlanta is just like a pro us politicians and their way expect asians that the relations of of france with russia may have probably be facing problems but these predictions were wrong the russians are pretty good today and so a new a new set of expectations is being a is being born today because we're facing elections a new election cycle both in france and russia so do you expect any changes that may. influence the current positive trend in the relations between russia and from zero i don't expect any any change whatever the result yeah i don't expect you to write two to remind that sarkozy was seen as an advantage in two thousand and seven and it was a turning point you know and it's fairly soon regarding russia i think it is mainly

related to the war in georgia in two thousand and eight and also very good personal relations with medvedev but. to put things you know in the in the broader picture i think there is a tradition of quite good relations between paris and mosco and to some extent you know psychosis policy regarding russia can be compared to chirac's policy regarding russia as well and that's why my my my may conclusion would be to say that i don't expect any change in this tradition whatever the next french president is. not this great to be well most close relations with an eight have. have been ups and downs the but in the last couple of years they have been improving too and we see that and we witnessing like a sort of a new phase new level of cooperation between russia and nato. however there is one

thing between russia and nato aggression all the nato countries which is a still growing misunderstanding concerning this nuclear umbrella nuclear shields is this american analysis of nato nato progress program of installing the anti a missile defense. russia wants proof show us why we shouldn't be afraid nature says we'll just take it for granted book do you think that nato the west has to to to show said to give some proof to russia. russia will not be be worried any more losing russia moscow i think political class players are for first of all i think it's very important to remind all bug was the relationship between russia in a toe in the summer two thousand and eight with the war in georgia and i think

that's really the turning point and says since about time we had some positive evolution as was certainly a change of stance in russian leadership probably due to the crisis and the impact of the crisis and also the research approach promoted by president obama and since that time differently we can observe an improvement between nato and nato and russia having said that it's i share your views about you know. defense problem which is at the same time very complicated in military terms but it is a real strategy problems and i think that it's it should be seen as a part of a much more global strategy and for both russia and nato so a key question is do we consider the main difference between us or do we consider that the main threats outside this is one way to say i was a little this is this is against an outside threat but it but it doesn't seem the west has arguments to to convince moscow was still being harsh i know i know pretty

well that there is a strong debate within the russian elites and between your political leadership and your military leadership of this very. difficult and sensitive issue having said that i think it's very important also to understand that nato and carraige russia to join. and i think it's a long process because it's very complicated and definitely it would be a big change in the positioning of russia on the international scene if russia i decided to join nato on this. how to use a system do you think that the contacts between military between generals between between politicians in charge of military affairs are a good thing in establishing trust in in stopping to look at each other as potential enemies definitely its importance you know but i

think it's not something very new like we are or we have this tradition of changes definitely i would say once again it's a parts of the picture it's very important for both militaries to interact on a consistent basis but at the same time i think it should be seen in something broader we've political contacts we've called to all contacts and solved definitely is the idea for for the west and especially for for for for europe is to say that. russia should be engaged we know that it's a very important partner it's not all the time an easy partner no doubt about that but definitely very saidee that russia should be engaged. after the recent visit of the russian defense minister to france it became obvious that for us is becoming the number one russian partner in military cooperation in europe among native countries at least was it

a difficult decision for the french to start selling. military equipment worth billions to to russia i don't think it was a difficult decision it's only business just i don't. think it is for you so an aircraft carrier to the russians you must sell their day. to your own people was it ari yeah i think it's more complicated because they are also part of the debate we've been a russian establishment as you know. possible to chase i think it's i don't know if it's number one i would say that clearly if you observe the relation between russia and europe in the number one is germany now we know that germany is less exposed to refers than friends of the u.k. given also the difficult relations sometimes between london and moscow certainly

there is a space for for for for for most who else again we have a good tradition of formation between both countries but regarding you know if. you see there was some concerns expressed by nato over a statement versus specially by the states or so by a country such as a jump on at the same time i think it should be seen first of all you know deal because over european countries can make any sort of selves so it's commercial or commercial approaches because it but also obviously it is presented as a way to transform the relation between nato and russia you mentioned the baltic states you mentioned japan which is the later when let's talk a bit about the the position of other nato countries except. maybe the old they were countries and also the united states what was there and what is their approach to these increasingly to cooperation. what of course they're not happy that other buying it. i think it maybe will not be but i think to be

honest that's not at all the top priority for the u.s. and russian right now i think that if you see the u.s. strategy right now you know number one is certainly afghanistan iran the raising of china and to some extent sorry to to to put it bluntly but russia is not a top priority at all for washington where. now so i being said that i'm not so sure that you appeaser top priority as well so a problem for russia and for europe is a reason to be marginalized on the international scene and from this point of view every feeling that can make a hard push more you know between europe or russia and to some extent europe russia and the us it can be seen as a positive step oh well i have heard a line of commentry opinions here in moscow that that russia actually does need these trials there it's a political deal rather than purely economic as you call it how much of

strategic interests aside of purely economic interest does france have in this deal . if it's not interesting for military terms for the russian navy that's interesting because that means that the russian navy sufficiently rich to buy something without any any use so i think there is an interest to be honest but we will see for friends that's very important in the industry in terms no doubt about that and because it's a way to to give job through to some walkers sole that's that's one reason this is going to reason is this idea that the evolution the transformation of nato is very important and that russia should not be seen as a revolver but should be seen as a partner again a difficult partner but it is seen as paris as a country. which it's possible to make some strategy convergence on different issues not on all of these issues but on different visions says

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no she would be so much brighter if you moved. from france to pressure. start on t.v. dot com. welcome back to spotlight i'm al green of in just a reminder of my guest on the show today is tamago man head of the russia and i asked center at the french institute of international relations come up we've been talking about about this this deal of selling to how the comp the carriers to to to move the trade naval vessels to russia well when i said that the russians are not really interested they don't really need mr el ships actually when people say we

don't need the ships this is not right we maybe we don't need the ships themselves but the russians badly need the technology which comes with the ships and this is supposedly what the russian navy is after so all the french in your opinion ready to to share the technology related with the materials as you probably know that's a part of the negotiation and fortunately i'm not another expert gods it's very difficult for me to explain to users the didn't itself politically definitely varies a debate about should we transfer technologies you know towards or the was russia and you have a debate to be to be honest in france and not only in france in nato countries but on the deal itself unfortunately i have no insights on this particular case. ok so . let's switch the subject now and talk about one of the one of the favorite

stories of the french press. in the recent couple of week we should stress kind of . a wonderful a wonderful rumor around this trance kind of further of course people say that it was initiated by a dam or so other people say it was initiated by sarah crazy because bill because because of poor company but some people in france said that it was all done on an order of lead and reputed you know that. well where does that come from i mean this is bizarre is it's coming from a french p i'm not wrong. it was seen as a put in although as a sort of russian plots my explanation is very very simple you know all the stuff is absolutely amazing and the media coverage of itself in france is much more than surprising for i would say real professional journalists. there is something completely irrational. entrance and so very is also

a tendency to see plot everywhere to explain what happened so one day it's a russian plods over there it's an american blogs the other day something organized by it to be honest open bets. is so complicated and definitely impact dramatically russia on the mystic story russian french politics that it's it's not very important to to comment on the sort of declaration from my point of view ok. france today is advocating the military campaign against gadhafi in libya advocating the u.n. resolutions against bashar is as a regime in syria well that is a political fact russian russian diplomacy is much more cautious dealing. with these issues do you think that this is because of some disagreements that exist between moscow and paris and could they have

a negative impact on relations these specific burning issues which are priorities for for nato. i think it's important to remind that. obviously the fights you know in libya it's very france but it is we've been a toll and especially with his trunk operation between paris and london at the beginning of the process and obviously the u.s. support was military very important to make your operation and to respect the result. which was there was a potential of russia. resolution now there are some criticize coming from russia against you know the way of operating and the fact that. we have monday to given by the resolution was not so so so so large so definite it is. a sensitive issue between paris and most school i think there is

a debates you know in the russian leadership as well because we saw that president medvedev in deauville was close to. the court the parts in the framework of the g. eight and other same time we listen very carefully to criticize expressed by one minister put in a very certainly different approach is also in russia about what is going on in india now the other question is about syria and obviously for four it's a very important country for the stability of the region and also in the russian diplomacy because quite intensive links between. us and most school and also very serious question that should we stay and do nothing given you know the evolution of. regime and all of what is made you know against the syrian population to be honest i have no no real insert it's very difficult

question ok another question since the end of the ninety's i think especially on the eve of the of the iraq war there was much talk and much rumors about creation of a possible political strategic triangle france germany and russia is this still alive are these are these ideas still of the make any sense today. that's a good question i think there is a continuation because you're right to say that this triangle was in fact against the war in iraq we have putin show the time and there is a continuation i think in the framework of the relation between the you and russia decided that paris in moscow should converge on different topics having said that are so or so an evolution of germany to be honest we have

now very very strong relationship between berlin and most school and obviously we are also obvious abstention of berlin you know for the intervention in libya so to some extent i think doubts maybe it can be a way to some of things but we can see quite good relation between paris and berlin regarding vu but also very good relation between paris and london regarding nato issues and to some extent i think that's amenable to by comparison with the triangle you mention in two thousand and three. russia is one of the largest markets for a european vegetables i'm talking about of course about the cucumber of well these eco carli but tyria nobody knows yet where it comes from first it was cucumber is that it was area now people say that russia has closed its borders for european vegetables and this causing controversy of course in europe among farmers and stuff

do you see such measures such radical moves you know actual moves by russia for example as as. sort of and willingness. to tackle bilateral issues in a more positive way so so there are problems in relations if we look at practical steps howdy. yes but you know i. a lot on this issue of u.s. show relations and it strikes me to see that regularly we have the sort of problems we mined for instance two thousand and six and the troubles between poland and russia for for importing feelings so i think it's something which should be avoided no doubts it should be avoided because as you know the u.n. russia are supposed to settle new agreements between the between them to. trade relations for me it's. you know it's was

a you know to this issue and i don't i don't think it was the most smart one to do to be honest but had the same time it's i would say business as usual ok business actually this is not business is business unusual when we would talk about you know maybe not so you're right but my point is to say don't i think we should not or very steam eight is important of this you know little decision i do that's a relation will become a small as usual business as usual is selling russian gas to europe only this is always the same. as usual in russia as you know is dreaming of getting the greater access to european markets european consumers actually we want the russians want an equal status to the book project and the and these south stream project do you think the russians will ever get that equal status.

it's i don't want to to make some prediction on that spits definitely ideas. in europe will increase and especially after you know the change of position of germany on the nuclear field is a very recent decision and definitely very idea. russia is a not too old supply for for for for gas and to some extent of this relationship does exist and in may view will be extended in the coming decades i have absolutely no doctor about that now a bird's a different project as you know the project we've got is coming from should we take some gas in turkmenistan for transco spend should we take some guys in iran and so on so stream projects where are they are you know very often presented as completed those projects the basic fact is that for both wash. and both sorry for both russia

and the definitely very is a need to foster energy cooperation in the next decade so i'm pretty optimistic about the ability to find a proper way to to shoot to sure european market in the coming years rostering the cooperation russian companies they still feel barriers they talk of people come here they had this table speak about barriers that they face have to overcome in europe doing business do you think that do you think that europe is ready is ready for concessions on this issue i don't think so yeah but i think it's not a negotiation itself also again it should be put in a broader picture and it is related to the negotiation of vision it is related to the negotiation of commercial conditions ok energy is a very important parts but the gelug between russia and the you should not be resumed to energy relations it's something much more broad and as you know very is

this legislation we've been zero about the so-called unburdening and vis a vis id that company wants to invest should respect this legislation so hans again i think it's difficult but i'm pretty optimistic about the ability of both sides to cooperate in the future thank you thank you very much and just to remind them that my guest on the show today was tom are going to have the russia and i have senator had french institute of international relations and that's it for now from all of you if you want to have your say on spotlight or if you have someone in mind you think i'm interested in down three drop me a line i'll bring out an ad r.t. t.v. dot are you let's keep spotlight interact will be back with more with a comment from what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on r.t. and take that.

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