changing channels governing bodies by alternative and supporting human just came. into it only when there were three mechanisms if you don't work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm trying hard look at the big picture. says.

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all right it's time for show and tell on tonight's program the last time we discussed the legal justification of the white house and why they didn't ask congress for approval to go to war in libya they said that it didn't count as hostilities the way the war powers act intended but some members of congress are fighting back we want to know who comes out on top in this argument and is libya really a war that u.s. forces haven't been devoted to let's go to producer patrice in a sense easy to find out what you have to say. this is how most of the world sees u.s. involvement in libya it looks like a hostile war zone because it is but the president is shoring us what we're doing

there isn't hostile so apparently the white house sees the conflict in libya like this so we want to know what you thought is it a war has the u.s. ability troops to the conflict there samantha said flat out the president is not authorized to commit american forces into a war without congressional approval jacket when he agrees he said it is definitely unconstitutional they talk about boots on the ground but what about the billion dollars worth of bombs so now this bigger picture is starting to unfold and i mean said the u.s. has sent drones cruise missiles conducting countless strikes if that is in that occasion i don't know what it. looks like the real question here is how could you not consider the conflict in libya hostile the troops on the ground rhetoric doesn't seem to be fooling anyone what the white house is doing is setting a dangerous precedent that drone strikes and missile attacks are not the definition of. involved in hostilities oh and don't forget the pentagon once applied the

billion dollars for drones at night here so it looks like they're not involved in hostilities strategy could be used to get around the war powers after four decades . now as always thank you for your responses and here's our next topic for you we showed you a c.n.n. poll earlier in the show where more respondents reflected a libertarian view points that in previous years we want to know what you think is libertarianism going at main street and america you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make it. now as we promised yesterday we're going to continue to tell you about police raids that go wrong and what do you know another police raid has left a civilian that and hampton virginia local law enforcement was serving a drug warrant on a sixty nine year old man when they got to the door william cooper allegedly fired a hand gun at police and ultimately he was shot dead in the cost returned fire now even though this incident happened just a few days ago lot of people are critical of the way the drug war was carried out

for starters we should note that witnesses to the scene couldn't confirm if the older man fired first friends of cooper say that he was very friendly but he was most likely started by cops busting it down the door and they added a people around here sleep with a gun beside their bed because of all the home invasions that we've had the guy was a nice guy the guy was a good guy so you think the local police would maybe take that into consideration when they're busting down the door of a sixty nine year old man as of now nobody has said whether or not any narcotics are found in cooper's home but the local police department has made every effort to tell the media that they feel validated and they returned gunfire any time there's a loss a life it's a tragedy in this instance because officers involved it's not only a tragedy for the for the family members who left the let alone it's an absolute tragedy for the police officers that are in their lives will never be the same. well those cops might have considered this a tragic incident as well but i'd argue that their lives never being the same is quite different than cooper who is like. ended altogether but local police continue

to defend the officers who killed them saying that they were met with deadly force and had no alternative other than to return fire really maybe you should yell police a little louder before you start busting down people's doors in the middle of the night maybe you shouldn't be knocking the doors down of people or prescription drugs either that's just a thought how frankly the details surrounding the story and the death are still fishy and if the police are already so firmly defending their peers i doubt that anyone who cries foul voices are going to be allowed to be heard but what's worse is how the police are acting as if their own boys in blue are forever scarred by this shooting they are still alive cooper is dead so perhaps the cops in hampton just aren't changing their message on this one. so last night we saw the debut of keith olbermann new gig at current t.v. of course with the exact same name and the same music that he had over amazon b.c. in fact it's pretty much the same of everything mine is a few obvious steps down of production value it wasn't a groundbreaking alternative media above the fray kind of show it is special

comment for the evening over and promised to take on a fight this is to be a newscast of contextualization it is to be presented with a viewpoint that the weakest citizen of this country is more important than the strongest corporation but the nation is losing its independence through the malfeasance of one political party and the timidity of another and that even though you and i should not have to be the last line of defense currently we are so we damn well better start being it the words of the thing is when it came to bringing on contributor markos moulitsas from the daily kos kind of turning to the same insider baseball for a five minute rant about how joe scarborough is a tyrant. but you have been on cable television since may twelfth two thousand and ten why for. well it seems that your old boss had a little problem with me i was under the impression that you were in charge of your own gas that you can decide who could speak on your show and those of the old saying the rachel maddow and the rest of the lineup on the mess in d.c. turns out that joe scarborough his veto power over who can speak and everybody else

is shows they got a little. but really what keith mad by the week is citizen being more important than the strongest corporation right so we thought maybe his worst persons and it would be a corporation maybe the executive that has been held accountable we helped. the first time of the last million occurrence is a conductor a new york suburban commuter rail metro north actually intervene with a passenger who would stop next to it least once there was a plane or a bus or train that only talk to well but was also allegedly swearing. a lady swearing on a subway not so much of that us versus them so when we say about the new countdown is it just more of the same when we discuss this is christopher chambers lecture at georgetown university and author of the blog a natural revenge chris thanks so much for being here ok what were your first thoughts on this new show i was missing some of the the passion was there was right over it but where is this where alternative i'm doing things differently this time

around i mean it's alternative in that he's not a major outlet. is in terms of the demographic that he's going after hurricane views almost like the national geographic channel and discovery for kind of a hipster demo where they want to see documentaries investigative reporting stuff they go to current so it's alternative and it's not the. n.b.c. so it's true he has to really keep his brand going and you know you know to ease into it you know just joint bid to it you know he's in there naked or the clear war on john boehner ok but let me let me read you a quote and this is something he said at a press conference he was talking about his show and what he wanted to achieve he said what we're trying to do is something that is utterly different than what's been done with television news in the last thirty years since the advent of cable in the breaking down of that used to be the wall between news and everything else and television networks. but he said it's going to be completely and utterly

different than anything the ground t.v. in the last thirty years has the same music basically the same ground and it was the same old insider baseball republicans versus democrats i didn't see what he was promising residential content which was standing up for the people versus the corporations and the lawmakers are going to do anything for that i could all. you know stay tuned it might be a ploy it's marketing and hucksterism one on one or it might be all b.s. i mean we don't know i mean this guy you know he's pretty cagey guy i mean i think he's trying to suck an audience and you know he's got his brand he's got his target groups that followed him over and he's also got the courage demos the people that watch courage he wants to bring them in so he's got it i think he's going to do it a little easier i think you've got to ease into it he's not he's not a lunatic that people are looking though they're looking for something different right there where you're somebody who is willing to step above the fray i think it's his hand not to the m.s.m. d.c. versus fox to oh you know the hucksterism part i think he did overplay the

alternative people think of alternative there's a lot that's a very pregnant word and so i think that you know when when when current and him and he's a great self marketer use that term everything all the wheels start turning in the audience's mind he didn't really deliver on it i think the next time he's got to start delivering on i'm just wondering what do you think the current strategy is at the end of august do they really want to be this alternative challenge they have been for years through quite frankly that's and i mean people have heard they have a tiny tiny little you know viewership compared to you could say the cable networks or do they wind actually be one of them oh i think so i think they want to be this big network for the you know eighteen to thirty demo we don't because if you look at their shows where they have marvelous investigative reporting you know documentaries and stuff like that now they have him i mean they have a cooking shows i mean i think they want to be they want to be their own little universe i mean as opposed to someone like glenn beck was trying to start basically

his own cult you know i mean that's truly alternative because he's building it around himself you know it's almost like pat robertsons you know p t l club i mean that's a true alternative model right there i think that goldman is just basically part of the you know on a weapon a star that they can do. bring out but it's going to be at the end of the day right they still have commercials they still have these corporate rights eyes or is this is already have that ring of corporate media to me when i'm not as much as he was used to but i mean it was really corporate media had a problem with a sudden without was there for her scary or and i think that there he's going to i think he's going to be turned loose a little bit more in terms of administrative leave how he's going to run his show but. i mean if the reports are true he is getting ten million dollars a year that's a that's a huge huge crowd reporting but we're not even come i don't know what he did actually value of the shelf and yesterday every night he didn't look like

a million dollars coming from al gore's pocket he was with the people who started current i don't know i mean the flip side of this is you could have the disaster that happened to sirius radio when they decided to basically mortgage the earth moon stores to howard stirred and things they had to restructure because of that you know i think they're looking at that that's a model for the industry but i think you know i think because of the tenor of the show the product that you put out i think bill miller together pretty well so alternative no but a good fit yes probably do you know anything i do you know much about al gore's partner in this venture as to you know are saying is maybe isn't coming out of al gore's pocket by that about the other people involved i'm not really so sure about the corporate structure there again i don't know where they got the money from i mean somebody is bentley probably has a new car note on it at this point but i mean i don't really know where they got the money from because now if they're going to suck the money away from the stuff that's made of a name like vanguard like they're investigative documentaries they're going to have

a problem i guess we'll have to wait to see if it's actually as of being worth it for the by keith olbermann not only is he going telling us you're reportedly he also then gets to have a stake in the company you probably have a similar big say. and i think you know money for the for the olbermann fans who want to exact same thing you know i guess that's exactly where they got it. i think that younger people on something if you're probably up my take thanks so much for joining us tonight. still to come time we have our tool time award which calls out a governor for signing a new immigration bill that's now causing workers to flee his state and then stick around for happy hour man robs a bank just to get health care and are the amish being corrupted by technology to have that morning we return. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then something else hears you some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry little girl is

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let's not forget that we live in apartheid right. i think. whenever governor says keep him safe get ready because it freed up. it's time for sides tool time award tonight it goes to a georgia governor nathan deal he's a republican governor was elected to office last november and recently he signed

a tough new immigration law starting on july first the georgia law enables law enforcement officers to question all criminal suspects about their immigration status it also requires employers to verify the immigration status of new employees there a federal database before hiring that and deal said that the state hack to act with an illegal population that is estimated to be almost one here million they collect the funny chill calls jory educational health care and correctional infrastructure is in the billions. but the now a deal the rest of his republican lawmaker friends who passed that bill are dealing with a few other major issues a lack of migrant workers illegal immigrants who work in the fields picking fruits and vegetables are now leaving the states in huge numbers which is really shocking since they're under attack and a study by the state of georgia released last week found that more than eleven thousand agricultural jobs remain vacant during this which is the busiest baking

season for fruits and vegetables just listen to a few vendors in atlanta who are afraid of they're not going to be able to get a steady supply from southern georgia. this fall you see a peek you see that there is still room who is doing a reading where george farmers are the lawmakers who voted for this bill actually think the farmers in the state wouldn't be affected by the immigration bill here georgia's called the peach state because of its world pain as peach crops the ever taste of my daily onion their sweet on hands are only grown in the state of georgia so if you can't tell agriculture is kind of big business in this state they produce more than five billion dollars a year in revenue with that and farmers are not the only ones facing the hardships because of this new law. well some people are moving around you know like north carolina a tennessee some people are going back to mexico if i have no license and i'm not going to be legalized i can't work. so i'm just wondering and the slow economy is

a really good to be chasing workers and their money out of the state well they may have been there illegally they were contributing they were working those are things the politicians don't like to bring up the immigrant population is a huge contributor to our economy and that is a fact we need to figure out how to deal with it properly so governor nathan deal how's that new immigration law working out for you you know the one that's not even a law yet and it's already cost in your state money that's why it's tools i'm winner. ok it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening are two producer jenny churchill and catherine c. i know warren brooks journalism fellow at the competitive enterprise institute ladies thank you for joining me. with big news today there's a new g.o.p.

candidate that's entered the race and we've been covering a obviously because it's important to see who might be running to be president next but there's something different about this guy take a look. today. i'm a candidate for the office of president of the united states of america. are here comes the magic question do you think that john huntsman is hot you know i think he seems like a creepy camp counselor creepy camp counselor. and now that we're doing up on fire he's excited to now guys running for president come on what do you say i think the president is a story about a very good looking tall man who who are tall person who controls who you know oversees the government and i think this is a guy who is trying to sell himself as a sort of like younger looking guy let's. honest mean in american culture today

these days in our soundbite culture especially when a lot of people just see their president and you know still shots are they going to be like a little two second blurb on t.v. good looking people probably have a better chance of getting elected probably jon huntsman has a better chance of getting elected then chris christie and that's something that people have said you know it involves and people have written about it because that's just the type of culture that we are but we had a little fun and we found some pictures that we could compare jon huntsman to. bathing suit so it wasn't about their politics and it was just about their looks if that blood flowing is obviously ron paul i'm sure i don't know how many kids you have always been. for me it's not about looks for me it's about kind of the feeling that you get about a candidate it's about you know how endearing they are to you how real they seem to you how honest they seem to you and that really has nothing to do with how they look and you're just not playing along with. your own whether he's hot or not john

kerry was a good looking guy i really disliked him because i thought he was smarmy in row john kerry is so not good looking but. obama's politics i think is a good looking man and i think you can separate those two things but i think that the good looking thing there's a really big job for a campaign i think that's i'm just trying to say in his country it does make things easier and quite frankly if i'm going to have to be covering you know what these people say and do the next presidential election with mindful of them as good looking candy i have to say. let's move on through another story that sounds a lot more serious actually so they actually a is now about to release their new smoking labels on packs of cigarettes and they're pretty graphic this is the first change under twenty three twenty five years they've made some labels and some of them they said they were trying to pull on your emotional heartstrings because sometimes they felt like it was too graphic that people just tend to tune it out and some of them well they just wanted to be really graphic like the. the smoking

three your neck obviously when i say with that inter you do you think about going to turn kids my favorite cigarette out of ever seen was turns out it was a couple looking i'm happy in bed and there was a cigarette and said it happens to everyone smoking makes it happen more and it's one of them. again and again sex sells if you don't people their sex life is going to be ruined if they smoke then it probably has a better chance of making them quit rather than showing a picture of a crying baby it's just i want to know what's your take a lot i want to know first right what you think what's my take about it i mean i think of those i don't think those will necessarily work i think but like hopefully they will deter and when it comes to young kids i think that asians are visually really can stand out in your mind they can make an impression i don't know if anybody who's already smoking is really going to take that much time looking at the practice to grow really thinking about it right at that minute so i just i ask because i couldn't help at all a parallel to the story at the beginning of the show about the pictures from libya and showing the reality of what's happening there and that's kind of how i feel

about these cigarette ads you know they might not be pleasant but this is the reality of smoking a cigarette absolutely so. kills that for you. so you can kill kids ok this was just kind of fun so i. just tell you the story twenty one year old amish man was arrested in indiana because he arranged a sexual encounter with a twelve year old via text message and apparently he sent her hundreds of dirty texts including pictures of his penis and lewd videos you know it's one thing i guess we've come to expect politicians and people like anthony weiner doing it but are the amish being corrupted by technology how could you think now it was part of their whole thing so we're not going to go there you know us about this so there are a few aspects of the that are really confusing one is apparently most amish people have cell phones which kind of blew my mind i guess it's because or it's because of business or. since they have to have cell phones. parties and also to start taking

pictures of themselves i thought that was completely against the is next and there you go there you go i mean it's business can you do it can you break all the rules it's good for business when we talk about the really funny part of the story they set up a sting where he showed up and his buddy i'm sorry seems like too much of an inner city guy. you know really no need for a very active bust down a door and excessive violence because the guy's on a buggy and i think he's going to get away from the police car do they have the horse was impounded but if it was a software raid i'm sure they should have asked that forfeiture. ok. alas. i let's just well let's just play the news i think will explain the story. you want you want to. change is

hoping for a three year sentence figure sheet and be able to collect social security when he gets out. so that's just a sad state of affairs james there worked for coca-cola for seventeen years and he was laid off three years ago and then he started noticing that he had some. medical problems and so he actually went to a bank to rob a dollar and told them that i'm just waiting to go to jail so i can get treated like i have a guy who is blogging as allies in the middle east is not the same. guy you know the story is actually really sad and similar to other stories in the winter you always hear about homeless people trying to purposely get arrested to get away from the cold and i think it's really really sad that we have to house people putting themselves in jail to get the types of things that they need to survive to make us feel like oh wow this is a problem in new york every year there. there's hundreds of people every single

night probably in d.c. to call ambulances called my men one just to get picked up and taken to the hospital to get a good you know a good night's sleep and a hot meal it's sad but you know. not the right way it's sad but if you think about it no it's not the right way and then that's when people start getting angry because they say that all these people are wasting my taxpayer dollars by calling nine one one or they're wasting my money by going to jail and i'm paying for these prisoners to stay there maybe that's why we have to start thinking about our priorities of including these like actually has more homeless shelters or we actually treated health care is something that is a right to have his own lane in the people it is clearly why do you want to get out of the way actually are virtually i mean you are girls thanks for joining me tonight. ok that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and make sure you come back tomorrow lawrence wilkerson is going back on the show to discuss obama's announcement about america's involvement in afghanistan and the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter and missed me tonight show or any other nights you can always catch you tube dot com slash the long show

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