what authorities about what could have happened several theories are being explored and of course the flight recorder will be essential to this investigation a commercial plane that would have landed on schedule ended up in pieces and in flames this double of one three four carrying fifty two people from moscow to better get north western russia crashed on a road around a kilometer from the runway airport officials say the plane hit a high voltage power line that cut off lights on the runway which also knocked out the town's electricity. at around midnight the lights went off in our house we were going to check the electric transformer when we heard the sound of a huge explosion we arrived at the scene of the accident plane was seriously damaged we could see its wings justing out of the bushies there were bodies scattered all around the field there were lots of. three people out of the wreckage one was either a girl or a woman i could not sell but she was larger than the man was hard to see was dark

then there was a man he also wasn't happy he was launches and me and then we carried out two more people from the wreckage in the middle of the road another man reached out his hand towards me but i couldn't make it to him everything started exploding i could not get any closer everything was engulfed by fire so very. initial reports point to human error and bad weather conditions at the time as possible causes of the crash ground staff at the local airport claimed they had asked the pilot to make a second approach but he said he'd make it the first time however investigators say there are several theories and nothing has been ruled out just yet. we're looking into several versions of what caused the tragedy these include the human factor such as an air of the crew or the ground services severe weather conditions technical failure and several other potential causes but some would argue that in most plane crash a human error places the biggest. part of the name was of which i don't think

anything would go wrong with the plane itself in forty years of operation the tuple of one three four has proved an extremely reliable aircraft in previous catastrophes human error was always to blame and the same is true here the pilot should have made a second landing approach this is exactly what happened to the polish presidential airplane while investigators work on the case relatives of the victims and survivors are dealing with their own grief one shared by the people of beth as avoids declaring three days of mourning tesser cilia r.t.e. in the russian region. reports suggest seven special forces officers have been killed and at least sixteen others wounded during an anti terror operation in russia's volatile north caucuses fierce fighting broke out when a group of militants have been surrounded in their hideout trying to break free this cross live to our two corpus can obviously following this developing story for us hugo are significant losses among russian officers tell us what exactly what

went wrong. while this operation is still continuing it's been going on for two days it's all happening in the troubled we probably go for biggest done in the caucuses in a forest area so perhaps that that complicating the operation for the special forces is started with the authorities surrounding a group of militants what they try to break through and that's reportedly one some of the police officers were killed when two reports there's intense fighting still and losses on both sides but the figures on data are quite different officials say that five police officers were killed whilst reports in the media suggest this figure is seven and sixteen others work that were injured in the fighting as well and there are also reports that when it comes to the militants five of them have been have been killed as well during the course of this operation although this has not yet been officially confirmed so it's still continuing in fact to be

authorities have also deployed havey old artillery including tanks and helicopters to assist them in this operation to go of course the north caucuses are is known as the cradle of terrorists in russia how much progress has been made in nevada caving in the region. unfortunately the north caucuses of is called the cradle of terrorism in russia and president needed to be the first been saying many times very it's one of the key wars of his administration to strengthen security in the caucuses because security there really affects of the security. in the entire country and the authorities have been quite active in that region this year according to russia's police chief what are shit little. around two hundred militants have been killed this year alone including some militants chiefs local militant chiefs there in the caucasus and it's a very important it's a very important area for the authorities there are trying to

a break up various terrorist cells and a very connection with al qaida and if you talk about did you start for example the same republic where the events are unfolding right now just last week the authorities found and destroyed what they called was a factory of death an underground weapons factory where they found numerous homemade explosive devices would remote controls which could have been used in terrorist attacks across the entire country also just last week police announced that they've eliminated personal bit of all they have been searching for since last a new year's day he was supporting terrorist attack which went wrong actually the female suicide bomber who was supposed to conduct it exploded before her she could if she could conduct of this this terrible job of hers so the fighting is going on in that region and it is like i say it's like the president says it's very

important to keep security their strength and. he's going up reporting live from moscow thanks for that. still to come here in order to be stripping millions of people want their privacy and all of them in the name of fighting terror war and us first to keep information on all transatlantic passengers from the e.u. for fifteen years of top lawyers have slammed the proposed deal as illegal. to greece now where the prime minister has won a crucial part of the vote of confidence in his new government you must now navigate the nation through a series of tough spending cuts and sales of national assets in order to secure a new e.u. bow out and avoid a default resort to sara firth reports for the millions of anxious greeks who feel their voices are going on heard the future has never looked so bleak. it's considered by many to be the best place of democracy but increased now the widening

gap between the aims of the people and the government is proving explicit and. we are a mix of people that have no political dollars and we are here all together to say that we cannot be on the vice president we are not called. the measures taken on the measures that they take for us without us and we want to take out large bug demonstrations held in the central square now on a daily basis with some of the protests turning violent protests to say the suffocating take us nothing compared to the a stage the measures that they fail a strangling their economy the people are being refused very right to judge what policies are going to be implemented upon them and of course the greek government is an accomplice to this of popular sovereignty i mean we're not we're not any more in the proper sense a sovereign country when the i.m.f.

can dictate policy with the european when peaceably and the european union and the i.m.f. the so-called troika can come and say listen these are good these are the measures you're going to implement you are going to implement them whether you like it or not we can see you know we were facing a very peculiar form of dictatorship by the european union the european central bank and the i.m.f. here a finance chiefs a desperate not to see the first year raising suffering default and their rising concerns about the crisis that could trigger throughout europe i think very chance of a domino effect if. there are nouns or default and this is their problem and reason why are europeans are helping greece but in fact we are hearing their ears because they don't want this domino effect and because they want to take all very short of greece. sixteen percent of the greek what full

sun employees western economic conditions here increase the euro is a dream it seems is a. people were real fans were before over people were not there were uprising there were there would be a lot of violence in the streets the people have said that when that turning out into the streets and then millions and the government continues to push ahead with the prepays measures well then they deign to have democracy anymore the government is trying to grab the people refuse to beguilement these were every day that disconnect becomes more and more dangerous because they're a peaceful pay above the reef and nothing's really a world away from what's been happening on the streets recently the question a lot of people have been all staying is just when will greece reach boiling point will anyone who was on the streets of athens to witness the violence that is already past that point because today lot of people are now asking is really how

much does this guy. see. well for more of sarah's insight into the problems in greece have online if you want to learn how the peaceful protests turned hostile visit her blog on our website r t v dot com also there. at the end of an era a legendary media personality glenn beck is farewell to fox news and launches his own pay to view on my network. the fundamental human rights of millions of transatlantic passengers traveling from europe to the united states could be violated according to lawyers from the european commission the u.k.'s guardian newspaper says they've called a proposed deal between the u.s. and e.u. allowing america to store the personal data of passengers illegal under the

agreement u.s. officials would have access to credit card details. phone numbers and home addresses european passengers as part of its terror measure but member of the european parliament gerard batten says the deal will only result in yet more spying on your people. it certainly seems to me to be disproportionate this disproportionate and intrusive in the amount of information that they actually want on travelers and it could well be illegal especially under existing data protection legislation and i queried that before when speaking on this subject in the parliament they want the moment amount of information about people their personal details credit cards traveling companions even but bizarrely they say that they won't categorize information in terms of political philosophical or religious beliefs and it would seem to me the one criteria that would help you to find terrorists who might be planning to blow up an airplane or an airport would be on

the basis of their political religious or philosophical beliefs so that seems rather odd to me in terms of this information the americans get to keep it for fifteen years my understanding of this directive is that the member states will only get it to keep it for five years and i think it's bad enough having your own big brother state created in the european union have been subjugated to an american big brother star as well by the same method we're always told that these things are done to protect us from you know terrorism and organized crime well if that's the kind we all want to be protected from that of course we do and we have to have proportional laws in order to do that but i think these things should be reached by international agreements of everybody cooperates truly cooperate rather than is forced to do it we're all in the same boat regarding terrorism and organized crime so we should all be cooperating together. of the doing this on its own you know as part of his own legislative machine and the u.s. i get in a special deal which the rest of us don't get. more world news in brief for you

we're covering today at least fifty seven al qaeda militants have managed to escape from a jail in yemen after insurgents attacked the prison from outside they targeted security guards and seize their weapons killing at least one officer the gel is believed to house more than one hundred key al qaeda members among those who broke out were prisoners convicted on terror charges months of on rest and yemen have led to fears of al qaeda is growing influence. syria has poured scorn on you moves to impose sanctions saying it will simply forget europe is on the map of violent crackdown against anti-government activists in the country has left hundreds dead since the uprising began in march activists are calling for president bashar assad to step down meanwhile the u.n. secretary general ban ki moon has renewed his pledge to allow humanitarian missions into the country. the u.s. president is expected to confirm later today his decision to cut american forces in

afghanistan by a third barack obama has called the scale of the withdrawal significant and said troops will start to return home by july the afghan defense ministry bulk of the decision saying its own security forces were now capable of filling the void but more than fifteen hundred american soldiers have been killed in afghanistan since the u.s. led invasion began ten years ago. the countries of the former soviet union are marking the seventieth anniversary of the nazi invasion which claimed the lives of some twenty seven million people solemn ceremonies have been held across several states which bore the brunt of the war against me in moscow russia's political elite laid wreaths at the tomb of the unknown soldier by the kremlin wall president medvedev stressed the importance of keeping the memory of more alive making sure it doesn't fade with time when bella ruse a special ceremony was held at the brass fortress which witnessed the first major battle between soviet and nazi forces because it is there for us. being here

inside the prettiest fortress on this day seventy years after the start of the great war makes you not only see the visual damage to this city. the forefront of that war you can also fill the human coast of those terrible times dance from the walls of the fortress maybe you cannot see clearly behind that smoke is a living reminder about that the roches night thousands of people were buried alive on these four square kilometers on the night of the twenty second of june nineteenth forty one here also loves behind several inscriptions like the one on a wall i'm dying but i want we're not even told us which fewer and fewer witnesses all of us stay out of the war and the horse which followed. here is free. like any

careless child i had plans that evening i wasn't afraid when they started shelling i only remember that something exploded and my bed was thrown into another corner of the room. not only four year old canady was unaware of what was happening his father an experienced red army officer was also caught flatfooted that night seventy years ago. i was at his house with my mother and my father who was later defend the bridge fortress this was our window on the first floor my father was sure there could be no war this is what the party get saying he thought it was an earthquake he grabbed his accordion and ran outside my mom stopped him told me and this is war. the war for which the nazi military the very marked had come up with a name for long before blitzkrieg but as siege they'd planned would last just hours

instead was to go on for weeks in a fierce battle with those who defended to the death that is scorches became the size of the first major fighting between soviet forces and the viet market there was no warning when the nazis invaded on the night of the twenty second of june one thousand nine hundred forty one the war meant the garrison by some fries but army officers were spread out and was on the wrong there i mean ition but well even this didn't stop them to finding the fort in fear of battles until the last survivor stories of the heroic resistance quickly reached different fronts soldier me while the loss of received the news far away in the republic of call me in northwest russia it was a deep grief silent pain for our people trapped here everyone knew that the german army was much stronger every day we receive reports that the enemy marched another hundred kilometers deeper into our homeland the nazis were in

a hurry at the gateway to vast country they bore him to the breast fortress with devastating intensity up to sixty six missiles a second archive footage from the two. time shows the fortress silhouetted in heavy smoke hundreds were killed in their sleep during the first minutes of the attack among them small children some survived the night only to be buried alive later this is my second mother when the nazis rounded up refugees scattered in villages nearby this woman saved me the germans dug a mass grave into which they were about to throw women and children this woman pushed me and my mom under her skirt when the german slaughtered every one around and left this woman took me out from under her skirt crossed me and said i just did what god told me to. after nine days of fierce fighting hitler's forces captured most of the fortress but their losses amounted to almost nine thousand there were

reports that isolated defenders remained resisting the nazis as late as august one hitler and mussolini personally visited the site of the battle it's claimed that a stone hitler picked up from the remains of the fortress was found in his office after the war. i'm often asked what was the biggest award for you the one most valued from that war the most precious award for me is that i stayed alive everyone was fighting like true heroes but few survived but you could understand it four years of age nothing it's only now that i'm a father and grandfather myself that i realize what a life is worth now i'm a fierce pacifist i hate war i don't understand how one human being can do violence to another i've lived my life never doing any harm to anybody. our team. bellows. next hour you can watch as archie sits down with

world war two historian michael jones and despite german claims that they obeyed the rules of engagement dr jones believes some of them were waging a genocidal war on the eastern front. after the war the german claimed it was fighting a clean war and it was it was the units behind the army and it was the us that were doing pleasant stuff. that was not true many were infected by the race proper conduct swells towards the jews and the german army ive the participates in the atrocities the false teachers against the russian civilian population for me knew they were going on the justification was we were fighting a brutal war of survival. but war with darker than any other war in the twentieth century indeed possibly in human history.

you can watch that full interview in just over an hour's time here in archie up next between us here with the business update. hello and welcome to aussies business bulletin russia is both a major buy and sell at this year's paris and it's become one of the top largest national participants have already they have already been made to deals for sukhoi superjet with orders from indonesia and italy while aeroflot has struck a billion dollar contract contract with boeing a change from air bus which supplies the majority of its fleet i'm just joined now

by grigori burke from invest cafe thank you very much for joining us from gori not just start with let's start with russian aircraft manufacturing would you say that sukhoi is the only bright spot well one can say that because despite a lot of talk from the government a lot of support for the aircraft industry not much success unfortunately has been made in that space. now prime minister pearson recently said that he wanted russian firms to be able to compete with global giants like boeing and airbus do you think that's a reasonable ambition i do think it's a reasonable and visionary long term but as of yet as i said russian passenger aircraft manufacturers have not been successful in competing with international majors such as airbus and boeing and what do you think they need to do to be able to compete well better quality and establish contact and i think russia's reputation as a as a recommended refutable manufacturer of military aircraft will stand to our colors excellent now of the sukhoi superjet is that seeing the kind of demand that they

were expecting when we did we have seen over six hundred aircraft ordered from the project and. the princess is largely due to the to the reputation of. mr park at the time head of the corporation and also. out of those over six hundred across only two have actually been supplied so maybe in time before the modifications it can stand the competition from international majors such as canada's bombardier and brazil's embroil who also manufacture aircraft of similar specifications now turning to air a flawed which has been shopping in paris is chosen to do another deal with boeing do you think it's turning its back on air bus which has provided most of its fleet well i'm inclined to think that it's rather. an attempt to diversify its pool of supply suppliers and i don't view it as a radical change of aircraft supplier for float it's an international practice for

most a large airlines and i think this is what we're seeing so you don't think that they're immediately turning their back on them they're just adding to it is a necessity for large airlines to diversify its fleet so they can adopt to the number of routes and the geography or routes and volume of passengers so they can optimize their cost structure and in the end it will benefit the passenger and we all want to be benefit his passengers their way look thank you very much grigori back to the analyst at investor cafe. u.s. markets have opened down whedon's day with all eyes on the federal reserve it's holding its regular monetary policy meeting widely expected to keep rates unchanged of more interest will be one chairman bernanke he has to say at the subsequent press conference about the state of the u.s. economy european markets started wednesday session on a negative note with investors cautious as to what might be the next step in solving greece's debt problems banks in london are suffering with barclays and

standard chartered both down two percent and here in russia the markets closed slightly up this weird day though they remain uncertain on the process of crude and . some individual share moves on the my six most of the energy majors bounce back from any losses with both gazprom and lukoil up a half a percent meanwhile banks are down as they are across europe with v.t. bate losing one percent this hour. and that's all the business for the sound will be back with more in just under an hour's time stay with us for headlines next.

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dot com. my from moscow and your with our t.v. our top stories a plane crash in northwest russia claims another life bringing the death toll to forty five experts are investigating the evidence from the site of the stoppage of the columns of monday's catastrophe early reports are just pilot error to blame. an anti-terrorist operation in russia's north caucuses is underway with reports suggesting special forces have suffered most news in the attack on the militant hideout of the seven officers have reportedly been killed in a gunfight with thirty string the militant group. the greek government wins a vote of confidence as it scrambles for support of the sovereign spending props

there were quiet secure a new e.u. bailout in order to stop off that the fall but thousands of angry greeks protests against new measures saying their voices are not heard. because the former soviet republics remember the victims of the war against fascism wednesday marks the seventieth anniversary of the nazi invasion of the u.s.s.r. some twenty seven million people died to bring about victory on the eastern front. thanks peter lavelle in his call song gas debate whether popular uprisings will actually bring democracy to the arab world. and you can. follow in the welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle from spring to fall the uprisings in at least three arab states for fast becoming vicious civil wars is the

arab awakening less about democracy promotion and more against a stifling status quo and police states and what are the chances the arab awakening will be hijacked by new strongman and didn't take. you. through. the process not the uprisings in the arab world i'm joined by david price jones and florence he is senior editor of the national review and author of treason of the heart from thomas paine to kim philby in washington we have omar baddoor he is a political scientist and human rights activist and in austin we cross to alan cooperman he's an associate professor at the l.b.j. school of public affairs of the university of texas all right gentlemen this is cross talk and i mean cross talk rules in effect you can jump in anytime you want if i could go to david first and florence is the is the arab awakening as it's being called turning into an arab nightmare as i started out the program three of these countries.