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raid is allegedly related. to the topic and just want. to. get off sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture of. the world we are broke. and yet all.
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already it's time for you said it i wrote it right it's either respond to my brilliant engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you too because when you've got some to say i do listen now first i respond to gerald swan who commented on our interview about keith olbermann new show on current t.v. on facebook he said this of b.s. olbermann never made me feel as though he was going to change his show this shame same show is exactly what i expected and was waiting for and when you waste time attacking the mainstream correspondent who's used most closely resemble your own it makes me question your motives and as a fan of your show i'm disappointed now perhaps dear old you did not expect anything different from keith's new show but i did it all. because as i said yesterday this is what he told interview said what we're trying to do is something that is utterly different than what's been done with television news in the last thirty years since the advent of cable and the great thing down of that used to be
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the wall between news and everything else and television networks so i was just simply pointing out that what i saw monday night wasn't any different the want he was doing and less n.b.c. before that relationship soured was a revolutionary it wasn't above the fray and parts of it concentrated on personal gripes with m s n b c which i found neither enlightening nor interesting so yeah i was a little disappointed and i'm going to shy away from saying that just because keith olbermann and i purportedly play for the same team that being said i look forward to watching the show and hope that he fulfills his promise of bringing us something that's really different than what's been done before including during a time when i said d.c. now i want to take time to respond to a one who said on you tube i don't think the view that the government does too much is strictly a libertarian want and i absolutely agree with that statement i think that too often we try to put people ideas thoughts colossal bs onto a tiny little box by putting a label on it so personally i think the government does too much in some cases not enough in other cases i guess that puts me at odds with the two party system now
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many people would like to think that if you don't have a title you know a party then you don't have a voice and that's something that i think you should fight against now i want to respond to the people. and i really thank you guys for having these names. on you tube. deserves any award that it can get there so which i say hell yes i'm going to have more responses for you next week. now another cell phone video another cop another person gets arrested in rochester new york twenty eight year old emily good was filming cobbs performing a routine traffic stop while standing on her lawn on the officers notice the good was recording them with her cell phone. ok i'm just this is my friend garrett i'm just recording what you're doing. or you. know what did i say to you that offended you and so i was upset. and stuff i'm
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allowed to stand in my yard or stand in your house that we don't feel safe you standing behind if you're not moving you know put her back you're going to be going to you want you to move up put further back i'm. going to rest already worn. on the back i don't know what. they're going to let. reason. and that's they're here. that's right good was arrested by officer mario massacre on the grounds that her filming at the traffic stop left officers feeling uncomfortable even though filming cops is completely legal in the state of new york and comments like you seem very anti-police obviously those who cause an uproar on the internet we have grounds for taking someone to jail or the outcry over this seemingly unlawful arrest has grown in a matter of days and the local police chief says that they're conducting an internal investigation so in other words they're going to pretend to act on the incident
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until the all the media attention just happens to die down so all right the concert much up but what's worse is when the city councilman adam mcfadden gave his input on the incident he said typically i tell people in the police if you in order that you should follow it even if you don't like it we have a process to make compliance if we're not doing our job lawfully you know what i'm sure the good would have had a much easier time she would fall. what instructions from officer mapping but he still had no legitimate reason to handcuff her and for the record the man with the cost originally pulled over he was like so every don't take no it's a fairly grounds for arrest in rochester new york if you don't officers seem very anti-police and if you make them feel uncomfortable what kind of world are we living in. well here's a sketchy story for you today last night that i conducted a raid on a doubt of facility operated by digital one in reston virginia during this rabies
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sees a number of servers which then caused several websites including those run by the new york published courbet network to go offline for the reason for the raid is unknown we contacted the f.b.i. today and we were told by supervisory special agent jason pack that they're unable to comment because it's an ongoing investigation and how difficult but the rumors as to whether this may be in some way related to have to visit her already swirling with an unnamed government official told the new york times that the f.b.i. was actively investigating the group and the affiliated hackers cording to sergei also from our chief executive additional one that guy had been interested in one of the company's clients and despite being provided the necessary information to pinpoint the servers for a specific ip address they took entire sort of iraq's once again it looks like the government is trying to respond to hacktivists but you know they have any idea what they're actually doing and discuss this with me as julian sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute thanks so much for being here tonight are you first started do you any do you have any other details the i may be missing on
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this story like i said we tried to contact the f.b.i. see if we could find anything out you know they've been pretty tight lipped about this several news reports have suggested who's involved investigation of that group as you mentioned but beyond that we're not sure one of the disturbing things about this though from a first amendment perspective in addition to the concern is that they incidentally ended up taking down a whole bunch of sites including the park service instapaper and. sites that were run by the curb curb network including food sites like either and travel sites that grid skip or so that's really a problem that they essentially blocked access to a bunch of you know publications in effect so i feel like that's becoming a bit of a recurring trend i know this is a different issue but before we. highlighted the case when you know d.h. as the eye has been seizing domain names they did the exact same thing when it came to child pornography i mean there they weren't physically removing any kind of service but eighty thousand websites i put out and got taken down so it just makes
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me start wondering if these people always know what they're doing if they're being careful you know executive a line basically said that if they thought they were sloppy and now we can't get back on line you know i mean one of the one of the really troubling things is that they seem to have made a mistake about the distinction between servers that is an individual computer storage rack and server enclosure for cages full of huge racks of lots of different servers i mean a server rack like has you know more information than the average library so the amount of seizure there is really disturbing and probably having runs afoul of the fourth amendment particularity requirement you know may have a warrant to search my apartment because we're going to search have to be particular you're not supposed to bust into every apartment in my building and if the warrant says they're there to look for a gun they're not supposed to take my scotch just because they feel thirsty even it happens to be a bottle of bullet but apparently they like you know what do you think that this was then a mistake and they obviously they just don't know what the differences or that
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maybe they think were already there were already raiding the building why not just sweep everything up that we can now be troubling i wonder what happens when they do a raid on google which has millions of people's e-mail histories on their servers i think actually it's equally possible to blame whatever judge signed off on this or is a lot of things that are you troubling about this first warrants like this are not usually supposed to be executed in the middle of the night like this one was part of the problem is that the hosting company that leases the service faces didn't even understand what had happened until hours after the fact because their employees were on the scene it would make one that if you're trying to get a violent criminal make sure they don't know. these kind of night raids when you know if you're running a crack house where they think someone's going to try and destroy the evidence but in a case like this with a third party and usually it would even be done through a release of these services. on the company if what they're looking for is their client and not the company itself them so that's one problem but also you know one of problems i think the judges don't necessarily understand. the ins and outs of
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how computers technically work and how much data and how many different people's data is going to be stored in those server racks i'm so you're starting to see some quartz especially in your tech savvy your district like the ninth circuit up in california starting to impose rules to allow more targeted seizures like this for one sort of seizing the physical servers they can image them they can copy them so you don't take any one site down you just make a copy of the data and sift through it later and also again establishing procedures for how to go through the data and make sure they're getting stuff that pertains to the crime they're investigating and to the people who are investigating and not tens or hundreds or thousands of other people whose data might be contained on the same server and we were seeing anything like this before i mean is this president a raid or are these things that happen often and maybe just go unreported you are starting to see again some controversial precedents i mean in the ninth circuit was a case called u.s. versus comprehensive drug testing where again they were looking for this is
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a company that had digital storage of lots of people have drug testing records they went in and essentially took a whole bunch of data is put as opposed to narrowing in on the particular that of such they were supposed to be able to get to one of the cases where using the courts start to impose or try to impose rules to try and avoid this kind of situation it's not clear how often it happens is certainly unprecedented in scope i mean so this is maybe i you know i think obviously this is still all allegedly and we don't know when reports are suggesting that might have something to do with curity government officials are saying that yes there is some type of investigation going on i just can't help but feel like they must have bigger fish to fry than going out security or going out or not amiss but then i make me even more concerned right so we will talk about the ok go ahead i was a little scary. it is alleged to have been involved and essentially hacking into a bunch of databases and posting big lists of people's passwords and maybe credit card numbers online if that's true that's illegal and you know i think fair enough
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to investigate that ok fine i just think that there maybe are worse things going on in the world but you know if there is some illegal activity then so be it but now we have the government and this is obviously on a massive scale right we've heard from military officials that cyber war is now on the table and if somebody attacks. or somebody attacks our electric grid then maybe we're going to start shooting missiles their way and now it's come out the a.p. has been reporting that apparently president obama signed a number of executive orders on this about a month ago so that people can come to him so who can we trust to make those decisions to see whether this is really an attack that they think might be worth pursuing i'm sure the president is into you know an expert on these things maybe there are some people over at the pentagon but then at the same time they're allowing us to launch attacks cyber attacks on other countries not just seems so hypocritical and dangerous yelling cyber war is a term that has been defined very broadly by companies that make security software that they want to sell to national security clients in the government and it just in congress is so many different kinds of things that don't naturally fit together
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i mean there are or you know things that are clearly cyber based acts of war like interference in military communications systems by a foreign state but things are getting lumped into it that involve you know hacking attacks on what someone decides a critical infrastructure that may or may not be linked to an actual foreign power one of the classic problems and security is of course the attribution problem is often very difficult to be sure with any certainty exactly where an attack comes from so that even the classic you know cyber war example involving you know the deadly taking down of some government websites and in the stony about two thousand and seven it's not clear whether that was directly government sponsored or done by you know essentially not directly government linked people all of your reasons that i think we have to be you know just concerned whenever these executives. i guess i'd be cautious about firing off missiles fired so i thank so much for joining us tonight and he said. i saw it come like knight's tale a candidate for congress is trying to scare voters of the chinese are about to take
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over the u.s. any minute he's a nice old timer and we have our midweek edition of happy hour for you there involving a hostage stand off for sixteen hours don't forget the update a facebook account and plus some conservatives are upset with the movie cars to stick around for those stories and more. into that only a military mechanisms do not work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. but you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so simple a complete you think you understand it and then you did something else here's some other part of it and realized everything is ok. i'm trying hard look at the big
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picture. let's not forget that we have an apartheid regime right now. i think. either one well. we have the government says they're for keep him safe get ready because you give them their freedom.
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first. i decided i had time award and tonight it goes to in nevada cabot who's running for congress republican mark added a c. is running in a special election this september at this point i didn't have an opponent yet about that not stopping mark from going on the air with his first t.v. in just a moment marcus decided to scare voters in his district one school in time america became its own worst enemy with all their borrowed money friend else they can't
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spend it all to control their president obama just kept on raising the debt limit and their independence he can't a new dependence to adapt to our fortunes and that this whole other great empire rolls again. it's not too late to stop this nightmare i mark and i approve this message sure cars on the tires a promise to bring our. oh ard there's nothing like some light hearted fear mongering to introduce herself to the people might send you to congress really it's just classic you know the big news report from a chinese t.v. anchor that tells the success of china's takeover of a debt ridden america thank you for warning us of the red mar army is a marching that kept us capital as we speak by the way the t.v. anchor also had a really horrible chinese accent but great great work mark and we almost making the case that if you don't send in the congress the u.s. is doomed to fail that china is going to launch a full scale takeover any minute with the tagline is great we'll never vote to
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raise obama's debt limit and risk our independence mark do you not understand what's going to happen if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling by august on this around the world has said that not raising the debt ceiling would be a catastrophe no bosley cause a global depression but this politician from carson city nevada has decided that he knows more than some of the world's top economists and now he's running for office to stop obama from raising the debt ceiling maybe somebody should tell him that obama isn't solely responsible for all the u.s. debt the republican party is also to blame so tonight we're giving our tool time award to nevada republican mark candidate for his zenith of at lester's open and out of voters winds up to a scare tactics before it's too late. oh ok it's time for
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a happy hour this evening joining me tonight is mike reagan says the editor of reason magazine and reason dot com and artie correspondent christine for south thanks for joining me guys and i want our first starters cars i haven't seen the original one apparently it's one of these new kids' movies and it's really fun and cars two is coming out here's a trailer and i'll tell you what we're looking at it just put on the road trip. which we are. you go. to the. seam to see the. stuff. so they're racing to save the world and apparently the enemy or the bad guy in this movie is big oil so of course conservatives are just this is more of hollywood liberal propaganda that how dare big oil be the bad guy and big oil obviously it's angry as well to think that they have a right to be over it they're bad i mean i'm just not sure the hollywood has like
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a very nuanced view of what political issues like maybe individuals do but when it comes like time for them to try and communicate and especially if they feel the need to communicate our children. to everybody yes sure that i mean like the kid you know like to see to read out of crude oil in like hospital to be you know like that's a lot of important stuff and big oil is partially responsible so i call this plastic probably also partially responsible for exploiting populations all over the world and well it isn't paying taxes when there's a lot of other big things that big oil does that screw people up most children's movies teach you that you're going to be rescued on a white horse and ride off into the sunset and matter who you are where you come from i would rather our children be learning the driving in an suv is bad and that big oil is bad so they are a little less thin and having big oil is the enemy kid sharon right here need a gas guzzler i don't think i have nuance like i should not be driving this should be through downtown washington well like i would like it if my local fire
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department a couple you know like nuance is ok it's perfectly acceptable and you know we need cars we need them like they're great they help us get around that's how you make entire movies about them for the ok. ok let me want to next move this morning's is really really good it's one of those videos. you really should watch the whole thing if you get a chance on you tube but we're just going to play a little snippet of a pilot who his mike was open and everybody heard but maybe it wasn't to come out publicly. lou lou. it was.
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i just can't get enough. we're going to be five times today and some people are like so disgusted that he's just such a part of the stajan is the guy he's all those things obviously the guy is a jerk but it's pretty funny you have to admit it's hilarious to actually listen to somebody say all that i never heard the word grundy's before i don't know who they were in cancun i larry i thought that was really funny i mean i don't like when anyone's homophobic or when they go off on these rants but i got to spend it and you know what pilots should be able to talk about what they want in this business that we all wear mikes i mean sometimes the mike is left on and you say something you wish you wouldn't have or actually that you would have that you wish people would have heard so i don't know i could get you guys obviously a jerk as you said. i was happy to learn the ground is the word out there i think it's a customer service issue i mean it just doesn't like regardless of whether or not there's any sort of legal ramifications like you know sexual coercion or something but more importantly like it makes the people on the plane through uncomforted we
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know it was open for all i don't know if everyone on the plane when he heard people back in the station was just people in there trying to control towers that we're hearing a lot of patience and it's hilarious the broom a lot you know in the back of the. airspace and you don't want people flying planes to be sitting on a shelf and worried about everything that they say and do they want to be controversial when they're finding out now we know how pilots think of you know i heard a little earlier i never knew the real you know your world you know that certain airports had like the hotter flight attendants they were based in houston the. really you know i go to you. ok so john galliano obviously got into a little bit of trouble for did we get we have a clip of his rant ok let's play that just to remind you all. you see what i like yes yes. well.
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ok so he got in trouble for that because he's saying i love hitler and was saying when she denies magic stuff and now he's actually on trial and his defense today was that you know he's the drunk and has a prescription drug problem so that you should let him go but i might say you have an interesting take on this i think france has a freedom problem much less concerned about going on with substance abuse issues and we've got a country that told me forbids free expression i mean and that's what it is i mean this is a country where people come out we're religious symbols and so the public buildings are kids going to work schools to crosses where they can where you know he jobs are i mean france has much bigger problems in general you know getting drunk being a jerk i was going to say it's really hard to comment on something like this having grown up in the us of a you know where free speech has always existed for me and it's hard to say you know if he then went on to try to harm the jewish people then of course that should be used as some sort of hate speech but it seems very strange
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you know that he's going on trial for this to me it's one of those things again where ok is the guy has a drinking problem he has a drug problem he said some things that obviously made him a jerk as well and you know he decided to back and be his defense but it is really kind of bizarre the you can just say something to somebody in a cafe no matter how ludicrous that is and then be on trial for it i mean that's another essentially means very clearly not agreeing with what he said but yet he's facing six months in jail i mean like this is just totally disproportionate maybe maybe some sort of civil suit by the people who get to this last story just because we're running out of time this was this guy and he held a girl hostage in a hotel and then without getting stoned because he was doing i think even as. elders updated his facebook page inside the motel room around six thirty saturday morning saying quote this is the end then an hour later another post about letting the female hostage go and then firing some shots. they actually started out getting
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. basically you count about how cute is the male hostage but i think we're going to continue to see things like this happen more and more i mean with the internet i thought it was really interesting that people were sort of commenting like hang in there bro we're rooting for you and oh my god oh and by the way the police are on the bush's i watch our interaction with someone during a hostage the other way saying this is you know like five years ago six years ago people like had the most unfounded fears about a surveillance state right but you know going back to that police clip you showed earlier going back to this i thought the technology is real it's fantastic i mean they know they knew where he was they knew his state of mind because of facebook that those cops in rochester i hope they get punished are going to be because it can only save lives and he can expose it when he was the one on setting his own status and then he shot himself in the trunk i got around but you guys thanks for joining me tonight i think for nights out thanks for tuning in and make sure that you come back tomorrow gary johnson former governor of new mexico and current g.o.p. presidential primary candidates is going to be on the program that you guys have
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