system it's our laws is that or is the difference between the police officers and doesn't cards. right so i think they're two different categories ok but what we have right now is we have prison corporations that are lobbying for was that will give them more. of the same make a snow and i would absolutely agree with you there but i think that you have to look at the bigger picture and look back and see that state and federal prisons do the exact same thing and we look at the california corrections he says the officers association and he exact same thing i mean they're huge driver of the incarceration rate in california yes they do the exact same thing in the past they've allocated up to eight million dollars for lobbying but they're lobbying the law is the same policy they do not love it was there well i mean yes they do they love you they give money to candidates in california they get a huge amount of money to jerry brown who is right there developers and jury brown is there and is there and they gave their i mean i can name turn he gave them

a huge contract a very generous contract so i say lobbying for their lot and i would say you know this is a known lobby basinger's but it also is the same thing but it's also holdover from some of the policies it's like all right and you get private prisons do it i don't see a presence there too so so i agree that it's a problem so if we agree there is a problem and we agree that nobody should be lobbying for was a prisoner yes just because they didn't get you absolutely right in your mind the unions are at my going to corporations ok. doesn't that absolutely mean that the prisons should be part of the commons the third part of the commons part of the stuff that we the people. i mean if there's a private prison i'm not against private prisons like philosophically. prisons if there's a market for them and i thank you well and i think that if they make a profit that's not necessarily a bad thing i mean they're openly for profit prison when i was eating it but then you're going. but you're going to you're going to restrain their right of free

speech are going to restrain their ability to watch your history and their ability to conduct themselves in a way that advertisers share all you know right. there price yeah i mean the problem is what's the solution right so if you say mission you decide first like you're the most every other country in the world they're going to prison so you're going from that to every private industry i mean if you go down absolutely not that i don't ok well that's another fundamental disagreement that's why there should be private prisons i think that it's not a problem i think the question is we have to define what the commons are in the united states what are the things that are so sacred to us one of the things that are so important to us to have a functioning government functioning nation that we don't want there to be a profit motive distorting the profit motive students or things to destroy things in a very healthy way in the market if it's you know making bluejeans or selling computers but if it's prisons i mean we use them for profit fire departments and then chicago burned down because people didn't have

a duality i mean. i mean they're obviously very farm. and prisons and in federal prisons a local jail is even but fundamentally the idea of sort of a kind of prison from. doesn't doesn't seem that outrageous to me thirty out of the thirty six ers on the legislators who voted for the papers will use well money from private prison. and that law may throw a few c.e.o.'s in jail who are hiring you know. you know half those people in arizona would have just said ok that's it we're back to mexico but instead the person companies are saying you know i'm going after the individual people somewhere close to i don't know the same way i can't yeah you can see that is wrong on what is wrong for everybody and i think that they really the problem is looking at i mean obviously government officials are playing to you they're going to prison the policy is their pronunciation rate policy the minimum sentencing laws the california three strike. why i mean i think this is a do

a lot of the blame maybe we should have public financing of elections so that nobody is throwing money into it not you know it's not corporations and idea that can be debated but a lot of this reformers might yeah i really like that my reform part of the policies that are you out there ok i mean i think he very much from your eyes to see that you're one of the conversations frankly that america's not having often enough is what exactly are the comments and how she. is president obama illegally spying on american journalists that's what pulitzer prize winning journalist a new york times reporter james rise says in an affidavit he filed earlier this week after publishing a book detailing the cia's mission to sabotage iran's nuclear program rise and claims the cia started monitoring his in going and outgoing calls to discover his sources the surveillance began under the bush administration and continues through the obama administration rising argues that the cia campaign against him will have a chilling effect on freedom of the press in the united states so how is this

allowed to happen in a nation that's supposed to have freedom of the press for more on this story i'm joined by stephen webster senior editor ron storey dot com stephen welcome. great to have you with us. first of all my recollection was that when the cia was formed out of the us and over the years since then it was illegal for the cia to involve itself in domestic surveillance if they wanted to know something that's been going on domestically they had to turn over the f.b.i. when did that change. i believe that changed after nixon. president nixon was chased out of office and in part for spying on its political opponents. the intelligence complex knew that they had a problem on their hands and with the rise of the internet we've seen our worst it already since crimes legal rights yeah it certainly seems a case what is what is. what's the story with james rise and what is that the cia

is was trying to. get out of and what makes him so special for them well in my book james price that is something of a super if you're a journalist he helped reveal the n.s.a. spying program back during that bush administration where all of the americans electronic communications were being swept up and spied upon or for key words and escalated to of the rebels. most recently he revealed the bush administration was trying to intimidate a critic on court now he's he's known kind of a thorn in their side and even vice president dick cheney was rumored to have the current justice to try and go after and dig up dirt on him and but he published in two thousand and six really set in rocks basically here if you know that the u.s. central intelligence agency was using a russian scientists who thought all that information to the iranian nuclear

weapons program but nuclear triggers now that new york times bestseller eat what he brought it back in two thousand and six with his book state of war and he didn't want that and so much so they began investigating who his sources were and according to rice or at least the affidavit he got out this week they got a scam rocker's ending at his unit. and. his he suggesting that they're doing this because they're trying to track his sources because you know they feel that he's breached national security or is he suggesting that they're doing this because they're basically trying to intimidate him and shut him out. oh oh of course they're suggesting that his source at cia are it's our legislators who's jet least. by a leader you know national security protocols by turning over classified information to return. rice and i mean. reporters do this every day this is the very fundamental basis of what we just heard. this secret information about the

power or about the government of corporations. we have the freedom of the press in going after rice and why it's going on him and now subpoenaing him trying to going to testify against who believe his source is what i have a tremendous chilling effect on journalists so. it seems like this is like the post patriot act. although it's not just the patriot act obviously but without a vibrant fourth the state i mean it's referred to as the fourth estate because because of this notion that without journalism you can't have the first he can't have the legislative the executive and the judiciary and have them function in a small d. democratic fashion. is this part of a larger assault on the fourth estate on journalism or could it become i mean what's the state of that relationship right now between government forces that. is

not accountable relationship. do not administration in the name of prosecuting it was a lawrence is respected back you know up in communications of many jerks news us you know our industry some pushbacks trichinosis brought. in rice and space yet they're absolutely going after attempt to intimidate them to the freedom of the press and surely best you can journalism. focuses on the national security outlets which is what we hear anything from the national security that you do literally anything we would never know about. and the difference between having to have a warrant and the national security letters and is this just none of the above. no it isn't only a book. under the big will it already oh oh we're first again you know the

classified information begin trying to determine who this individual is talking to our jeffrey struan was talking to and so be about his going across the sky on his e-mail process but he scooped up information from his journals i mean it's amazing stephen thanks so much for being with us them absolutely my pleasure the press is the only industry that has rights guaranteed in the u.s. constitution the only one that has the founding fathers knew just how important a free press was to the health of our democracy without that no democracy is possible. coming out if you still don't believe warming is a real problem just check out our sea levels after the break i'll tell you how our oceans are becoming more toxic and dangerous at an alarming rate why the media isn't doing its job the forty.

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it comes to republican governors and actually radical immigration laws around the country the race to the bottom continues not to be outdone by arizona governor jan brewer's racist papers please law has last year georgia republican governor nathan deal passed to do as you have an immigration law himself like the arizona law the georgia law promotes racial profiling instructs police officers to check the immigration status of people who don't look like me belong here as in people who are white americans and georgia's law goes a step further and axes that targets taxicab drivers to under the law it is illegal for taxicab drivers to transport any illegal immigrants that means it's their responsibility now a big ad driver to ask any new fair and good for the back of their kids for their immigration papers before giving them a ride that's right in georgia taxi drivers are now our first line of defense against illegal immigrants. because to say this law isn't sitting too well with the

state's cab drivers more than two thousand of them backed by several taxi companies filed a lawsuit against a georgia in washington one of the attorneys for the cab drivers on the suit said it is our hope that the legislature and local law enforcement authorities would not seek to penalize drivers for simply taking people from point a to point b. so how does putting taxicab drivers in charge of enforcing illegal immigration laws a good idea why are these republican written anti immigration laws getting crazier and crazier drawing it out over his take on this is conservative commentator david selleck david welcome back thank you for having me tom it is absolutely a pleasure particularly for this topic well you know the last time you and i were talking you kept wanting to go into this topic and i said we would do it and here we are so why do you hate taxicab drivers. well i don't hate taxicab drivers as a matter of fact i'm concerned about taxicab drivers george is not

a unique state many of these individuals have been killed carrying out their duties frequently by illegal aliens now getting to the issue that you said why should they be the first line of defense and i'm hoping that this very good start on the part of the governor will spread a contagion and perhaps now law enforcement will actively do their job because remember the good people in georgia are very frustrated by the inequities and the unfair financial burden that has been put on them by illegal aliens particularly in the wake program which has been terribly abused by the states lou income tax credit that these illegals have been able to exploit because of section one fifty two of the internal revenue code they are a fact stealing approximately twenty eight billion dollars a year from the american taxpayer and if i could say one more thing just so we

level the playing field for. every day in the united states according to the house committee twelve americans are murdered by you legal aliens and every day twelve or thirteen americans are killed in drunk driving accidents by illegal aliens who are here driving drunk and that's just not right and georgia has been especially hard hit well you know we i don't think anybody is supportive of drunk driving and i have no idea if your statistics are or are real or not but there's a larger issue here a good you really want to live in a country where when you get in a taxi when you and i get in a taxi or anybody who might look like they you know that their skin is a little darker than mine or yours that there's that person says to them please see your in of your proof. citizenship i mean in a taxi i think it is so i was in east berlin when i was east berlin and the taxi

drivers didn't you know they would they would try to you know what are you doing you know trying to figure out who you are i mean they were to ask me for my pay a price. this is not a second complection issue it is not as you wanted to ask everybody for their is there a criminologist issue in other words in this particular case now. for instance in georgia getting back to this and perhaps this was part of the impetus that the violent crime institute which is in atlanta and for some of the more geographically challenged people in the viewing audience that's in georgia they've determined that approximately two hundred forty thousand illegal aliens have gone through their system for sex offenses and it's a terrible burden that's being placed on these individuals and they're frustrated and they want to do something and the governor took a very bold initiative and let's just hope that law enforcement follows suit and we

resolve this problem and that it spreads to other areas so i've admitted to all the time the problem ronald reagan only up until right you know the time that ronald reagan did his his amnesty for three million people we had about a half million people come north into the united states every year for the basically the crop agencies and then they go back down south and you know just continue that way and it's been it's been basically reagan did the amnesty and then stopped in force in the laws against employers president obama has done more about illegal immigration than any president in recent history more troops on the border or deportations but one thing he hasn't done and what reagan didn't do and what no president has done is put rich c.e.o.'s in jail so we've got this magnet for you make good plans and you know why not why are we going after human beings why are you so so worried about somebody's going to get money out of the. women and infants and children program when we show you we should be we should be as a stead saying that that this is it is wrong you know being

a meat packer used to be a career in the united states the union built the green bay packers football team are you the meat packers union construction used to be where union labor right build let's stop worrying about these criminals tom and let's start caring about americans i'll take the i'm saying the real criminals are they are the c.e.o.'s of minimum wage they're hurting americans and we have to nip it in the bud so let's start here i applaud the governor it's a bold initiative let's hope it's a president who has not put any c.e.o.'s in jail the governor is not doing anything about the people who are who are who have a giant magnet that is drawing people who are not citizens of the united states what the governor is doing is saying taxi drivers have to be come to shop oh that's nuts no i don't think that's the case remember these illegal aliens who are they hurting the most they're hurting the low income and low earning american citizens who now cannot even be hired for many are not hurting because these i believe

they're really all they are is what are called a minimum wage and it's not fair and i have to stand up stand up and say it's not right you and joe are going after people who are just trying to feed their families you're going after people who are just try and let them do so here i really so they can follow our rules and not that they come here and you know roughshod over americans he's no people i would think that you would say wow these people care so much about their families and about having a better life but they're willing to risk their lives to do it don't we want those kinds of people in the u.s. these people who are people who are you know who have if it doesn't all so much better say or locks allowed to argue have then let them have a comprehensive immigration reform and in the meantime read some what the magnet let's put the employers in jail. it's an interesting thought however getting back to this is. the it's a good folks of georgia have been stepped up on and they've got to defend their own interests and this is

a start it may not be the best solution but it is the beginning and less i said let's hope it spreads into other areas and how they're going to st david's and leave it where out about american sank thank you very much for being thank you again in my opinion this is an employer problem not an illegal immigration problem once we start throwing corporate c.e.o.'s in jail for taking advantage of cheap illegal immigrant labor and exploiting it and there won't be people rushing across the border looking for jobs in america let's put the pressure on the c.e.o.'s not the cab drivers. right now as sea levels around the world are rising at a rate faster than any other time in the last two thousand years that's just the latest inconvenient truth coming from the world's leading environmental scientists and it's clear this is the result of manmade global warming is for much of the last

two thousand years sea levels were stable arose at a fraction of a millimeter a year that was until the turn of the one nine hundred century and we found a way to harness engines sunlight like coal and oil for energy and spew billions of tons of dirty greenhouse gases carbon dioxide into the atmosphere since then sea levels have been rising more than two millimeters every year and speeding up as this graph shows. there it is right here this is this is pretty remarkable this is zero millimeters a year change this is a two thousand year period two thousand years and and then and the green here is the actual observed numbers and then the blue is what they were able to calculate from looking at things like you know ice chart you know i use things and tree trunks and however they do this so here we are in the last fifty years or so boom this conclusion comes on the heels of a new report by lady ocean oceanic scientists who warned that banks to global

warming and pollution the oceans are actually turning more and more acidic and threatening to wipe out half of all across life around the world and extinction not seen on this planet in the last fifty five million years so given all these dire warnings of a rapidly changing planet that could kill or displace billions of people why are our politicians not doing anything about it and more importantly why is our news media not holding them accountable for their inaction. al gore knows why in the most recent edition of rolling stone magazine gore penned an essay titled climate of denial why it is global warming is still question in america and not viewed here is a fact of life as in most other nations on the planet the analogy to gore uses spot on has to do with professional wrestling to someone just watching professional wrestling for the first time it seems real guys look like they're just beating the snot out of each other there's blood groans of agony kasia all serious injuries one

of the tip offs but it's all fake it's all a show it's how the referee acts if wrestling was real the referee would be on point and impartial fulfilling his duty like any other referee in professional sports baseball basketball football or wrestling the referee is just a character playing an important role in the scripted theatricals inside the rink ever notice that any time the bad guy is breaking the rules like smashing his opponent's skull with a metal chair the referee seems to be distracted. when the good guy finally i'll drive the bad guy and lays on top of him for the pin the referee is nowhere to be found again distracted.

thank you. thank you. thank you thank you right through. thank you it's simple the referee is there for the drama for the show it's a show and when it comes to the quine it changed to be here in the united states our referee is the news me. and instead of acting like a legitimate impartial and competent referee al gore points out that our news media using this metaphor is acting like a referee from professional wrestling the media seems unsure if they're supposed to be reporting on the facts of climate change or if they're just part of the entertainment refereeing absurd debate between actual climate scientists who devoted their lives is that in the issue and on the other side pseudo scientists

and pundits who are just saying what the big oil corporate overlords pay them to say as al gore writes the referee appears not to notice that the polluters and ideologues are trampling all over the rules of democratic discourse their financing pseudo scientists is job is to manufacture doubt about what is true and what is false by an elected officials also bribes but the politicians themselves have made legal and can now be made in secret spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year and misleading advertisements in the mass media hiring for anti climate lobbyists for every member of the us senate and house of representatives in other words climate change deniers are cheating hitting the legitimate scientific community in the head with the metal chairs and all the while our news media is looking the other way when the real story should be this blatant subversion of science in america but when it comes to fox news the media isn't just distracted

while climate scientists get kneecapped with fake science they're anti the metal chairs directly to the bad guys as media matters noted late last year fox news managing editor bill sammon sent a directive to all of that networks and journalists instructing them to doubt climate change science. salman's email read we should refrain from asserting that the planet has warmed or cooled in any given period without immediately pointing out that such theories are based upon data that critics have called into question it is not our place as journalists to assert such notions as facts especially as this debate in and some. other words it's not their place as journalists to report on facts that's because their job is to be a crooked referee and a shy in a side show and as long as the climate change so-called debate remains a sideshow in the corporate media then it will never be taken seriously anywhere

else get water cooler debates across america or debates in congress and the bad guys the big oil polluters with their phony science chair shots are going to wind natch after match after match until the entire arena is underwater the threat of mass extinction in our oceans is not entertainment the threat of american cities like new york los angeles miami drowning under rising sea levels is not entertainment and the threat of billions of people around the world being displaced is not entertainment it's real life it's what we're all facing right now and we need a legitimate referee a news media that knows how to do its job and can't be bought off by big will corporate interests to make sure that americans are informed about the very real threats of climate change and that our political leaders are held accountable al gore is so right on this and told it so clearly in his rolling stone op ed it's

time to disqualify pseudo science and give the world title belt of legitimacy to actual climate scientists and start listening to what they have to say. as the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we've covered visit our website it's on arbonne dot com archie dot com also check out our you tube pages of you tube dot com slash the big picture r.t. if you do god. and this entire show is available as a free video podcast i tunes and don't forget democracy begins with you when you get out there when you get active when you show your a city.