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go to her safe get ready for freedom. ok it's time for you said it right if i take a little time to respond to my brilliance of engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you too when you've got time to say i do listen i first want to respond to a viewer comments from our story on the new smartphone app which would allow you to record a police officers there a cox said on you tube why do people feel such a need to record cops i can't people mind their own business i have to say here i
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think those comments are kind of missing the point we're going to leave isn't about minding our own business or even getting into any well. says it's not safeguarding our rights holding those in positions of power accountable it's the police's role to keep us safe by routinely invading our privacy but it's up to us to make sure that they're doing that and a proper and legal manner and haricots people feel the need to record cops because they do routinely and i mean very often abuse their power so our police might have the guns the people the cameras and they should be able to use them and i want to respond to a comment in our story about david which raises testimony on the use of torture and special exceptions over should quote reopen the dialogue but he said on you tube paper trail as matthew alexander is a professional interrogator who used non-coercive interrogation methods to gain information that helps capture some high ranking members of al qaeda and afghanistan he also gave a very strong argument for why not only torture does not work but it isn't
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structured to reliable intelligence once you start listening to actual interrogators instead of jack bauer what we're going to say they're agreed i think of discussing that betrays a growing up is hypothetical ticking time bomb scenario when it's been proven time and time again that it isn't about the time it's about the information when you torture are more than likely to get bad information period end of story now we've interviewed xander here on the show before and i agree with ben there are leaders that would do much better listening to him and jack bauer and all the producers of twenty four now finally in response to my claim that i was perhaps a computer created pundit just like the japanese pop star that was exposed as the slave keyboard is set on you tube your joke will probably backfire a lot of people think that your computer generated a general masses of people are pretty stupid and you know what my viewers are not the general masses they know i'm real or at least they think they do but have more
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responses for you next week. well president obama has stepped into the deficit the debate last thursday john boehner eric counter they just walked out on a weeks of negotiations led by vice president joe biden saying that tax cuts are one hundred percent off the table so today the president hosted harry reid and mitch mcconnell the white house in separate meetings on the deadline to raise the country's debt limit is now only a little more than a month away so can the president lead the way to get them to come to an agreement and maybe put a few of those tax cuts on the table or does it really not even matter at the end of the day the american people the american workers already lost the battle to the rich in the corporate or discuss this with me is dean baker co-director of the center for economic and policy research thanks so much for being here tonight they sort of you know it's actually i think he meant tax increases on the table that nobody said to tax cuts or tax cuts scuse me excuse me increases of course thank you for correcting me. first of all what was your reaction last thursday when after
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weeks of these supposed negotiations that have been going on suddenly bantering cantor decided just walk away you know this is theater i mean they're going to their base they've been running around saying no new taxes ever so they have to show us we walked out we want property taxes now if you ended the day are they going to come back or is mcconnell going to have a deal that has some tax increases if they have a deal it will have some tax increases so maybe they're going to pass it off to mcconnell then the come back with their arms twisted and go ok we'll do it the other alternative is there is no deal we get to you know or august second where about clinton secretary geithner says you know look we have payments coming up in two days three days no money in the bank i can't make them and then you see a huge panic of more street jamie diamond from j.p. morgan and lloyd blankfein from goldman sachs start calling the painter and mcconnell and saying you guys get your troops out there and you fix this and they're going to do it so it's going to be one of the other will see it see what it would be like it's going to be the second object or the latter of the two because
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we know how many people out there in the republican. he actually want to us to default on our debt i feel like this is just something that's being sad to pretend like they're really catering to some of these voters but really it's only a few of the tea partiers out there all the republicans who are in there with business are going to listen to those calls for wall street i think that's right they're not going to be wall street i mean that's the thing you know it's going to be a bad story if we were going to force i mean i've been through it's a few times people saying it became before and i'm not advocating the thought but the point is the frontline the shock troops are j.p. morgan goldman sachs citi group they're going to be gone we're still going to be here we're going to be through some real tough time to still be here wall street will be dead they're not going to happen but i'm wondering if something has happened in america where we've gone to the point where wall street one never really be dead where you can say that it's the american worker that at this point is that you know michael limbs are going to say that the americans have just become obsolete and we can talk about this in terms of taxes in terms of corporations and
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global globalization corporations going elsewhere to find workers and let's face it i just don't think that anyone's ever going to do anything to really hurt wall street they can go on without us and flourish without us if we default they will be hurt but the point here is that that is i think is going to have no you want her going on here and that's exactly right but what's really unfortunate for the central american people is a huge distraction we should be talking about going to be going again about creating jobs for twenty five million people unemployed underemployed left the workforce all together this should be problem number one i mean this is huge mess that we're just ignoring and so we having these people running around with chickens heads cut off talking about the deficit the deficit the debt that's nonsense the problem is that we're going to come to me with a massive amount of unemployment under employment so what do we do about it we have to figure figure out a way to get the public the workers back in the ballgame and say look the problem is unemployment don't give us the stuff about the debt and deficit that's nonsense that the financial markets are willing to buy our debt this is really funny because
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we have always. sr experts in financial markets know everything the answer markets are saying they're willing to buy a long term u.s. treasury bond three percent interest that's incredibly low there are obviously worried that we can't pay our bills for you know this currency default stuff so we have to say the priority is creating jobs we know how to do that you spend money it's not hard people work for money that's how you do it but then how do we get republicans to stop with this tax cuts for completely off the table scenario in the logic which i think most americans are tax increases in. the that sounds good to most of them right nobody wants tax increases nobody wants tax taxes to be raised and they really do think that companies are going to start hiring if you look at it nobody's hiring right now they are holding on to the money they're all keeping billions of dollars in offshore accounts and it's is really screwing the american worker and what the problem is the media's been playing along with this so they all do this he said she said no the idea that somehow corporations won't be hiring if they have to pay higher taxes because it protectionist come on people who are live
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in the ninety's it wasn't that long ago we were creating three million jobs a year and that's is were higher than they are today i mean this is just total nonsense for anyone about it to look at but the media feel no obligation do no matter how crazy whatever the republicans is they go that's one side and then they go to to president obama that's the other side jobs are even left out of the picture i think that's interesting the imagine that you because obama had a council on on jobs and competitiveness in new york and robert wolf president said that the media has been painting a bleaker a picture of the economy than we really have so now suddenly it's the media's fault for telling people that maybe things aren't perfect maybe this is the view from from bankers you know we know the economy very well we're creating almost no jobs i mean we should be creating jobs at the rate of three or four hundred thousand a month i mean we saw that in prior recoveries from the perceptions the economy i mean you tens of millions of people that do not have jobs that should be. center in
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the media every day because that's an absolute disaster it's more like if we had cancer and then said we're talking about you know low cut your finger i mean that's what the deficit is the cancer is the massive unemployment do you think the media does a good job at least talking about jobs and i don't think we even do a good job of talking about that so that's what i mean is how do we who really runs the show here right it's the people that are the president's council on jobs and competitiveness that are painting the picture and trying to tell everyone the it's all ok and the media is over exaggerating it and that americans are doing just fine you know well that's a joke and you know unfortunately media reporting has been you know almost a joke in many cases and you know unfortunately people have to look outside i mean there are some good reporters you know in the mainstream media you know many of them some of them are governments in new york times is generally better reporting that elsewhere but you know people have to do more work for other sources and you know people know the economy's bad they don't need someone to tell them that they know they're going to their families some of their family does have
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a job but how you turn it around i mean if it's better it's much much harder task how do you feel about the fact that even wall street is now coming up on some big layoffs at least for wall street because everyone always thinks of this is the this is the part of the economy that bounce back very quickly wall street is untouchable and now goldman sachs is about to lay off a thousand people and just hire those people or excuse me hire their replacements in singapore i think in spirit use i mean we need the financial sector to be more efficient and we have extra people employed there it's waste i mean there is some truth when they say ok we downsize this fact it did make it more efficient if you could do a few other work for those people do wonderful in this case fine you know if goldman sachs could do all the training they'd need to do it they could do it a thousand fewer people for him to do it is the efficiency part of the problem is now i think we can always airlines are how we learn you know it's bad policy we can always find things for people to do for can find things for people do that shorten the work week how do you find things for people to do though in a world that is so globalized even find cheaper labor in other countries where you
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could argue that it's become so. mechanize over the value of the dollar will be cheaper and hurts those who heard that when the value of the dollar well you get retailers like wal-mart will be unhappy because they've established supply lines to try to wall street will be unhappy because their dollars don't go as far as china and other countries so they'll be hurt so but mostly countries usually benefit now very quickly just on what i'm wondering if we go back to these deficit talks right now shouldn't the president also know that he should be focusing on jobs why is he stepping in and deciding to take charge and to lead the way well he's helped create this theater i mean he should have from the beginning said he got a stimulus package that was good he said we know it's not enough as it was told them that we're going to have to come back and get more instead the whole debate to be shifted to the deficit so he knows better but this is the charade that he's playing as if he's going to have to come up with some specifics and some members of he's the one is involved well i'm sure the house specific numbers and i'm sure we will see some specific numbers come out i just wonder i feel like everyone else has
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been a little too scared to even be here in that direction we just keep hearing that there are negotiations going on that there were they were having numbers in the negotiations will see the numbers one when they have a deal yet no one ever wants to publicize it right we'll see when they have a deal if they come up with the or like you said it's going to come down to the wire there he thanks so much for joining us tonight and sort of you know. well still to come tonight he's been married of three guys and a candidate for president says that he wants no friend at marriage after new york approves the quality for gays love why not tonight full time segment and then ahead unhappy our dog's name is chris wallace is under fire for calling a presidential candidate a flake plus the g.s.a. is under fire again after a ninety five year old cancer patient is forced to remove or alone diaper during his twenty years and. you know sometimes you see
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a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else hears you some of the part of it and realize that everything you just don't. charge is a big. blow to. the world. and you know.
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we are. well. we never. are safe.
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artists are besides tools i'm a ward and it goes to newt gingrich so the g.o.p. presidential candidate who has a very long good chance of winning the nomination is still making an ass out of himself on the campaign trail newt was asked about new york lawmakers voting friday night to give gay couples in marriage equality and new set of the u.s. is quote drifting towards a terrible model by not limiting marriage to members of the opposite sex such words of wisdom from the man is a marriage of three times and he went on to say i believe that marriage is between a man and a. woman i think that's what marriage ought to be and i would like to find ways to defend that view as legitimately and as effectively as possible that new believes that marriage is between one man and one woman now let's her new he believes marriage is between one man and one woman followed by a different woman and then a third woman and casey believing under a rock newt's tied the knot three times so gingrich is first marriage was to jackie
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batley back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two she was his former high school geometry teacher and seven years older than him in the spring of one nine hundred eighty eight gingrich left badly after having an affair with mary on her and then months after his first divorce he married mariette but that marriage didn't last long either in fact in the mid ninety's he had an affair with calista basic who is now his wife and she was twenty three years his junior and a staffer for the house of representatives and calista is the wife who's been getting all this bad press for allegedly causing most of his campaign staff to resign because of her demands i know newt's love life was confusing and i was more sex allies than racing prime time so now earlier this year new would have to address his cheating ways and hope of winning over other conservatives and here's what he had to say. there's no question the times of my life partially driven by. passionately i felt about this country. that i worked for too hard
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and the things out of my life that were not appropriate. do you get that new cheated because he loved his country so much that is still one of the best and there is a gene politician has ever tried to use as an excuse but here's my two cents on it i don't really care how many times newt's been married he is free to marry anyone that he wants and is now any people as he wants and gay people should be allowed to do the exact same thing with a divorce rate over fifty percent in the us straight couples aren't doing so well at marriage line all that gay couples give to try is that of protesting gay marriage and trying to pass laws banning it how about we start protesting something like war just an idea now for a stupid comments on gay marriage we are giving it tonight's tool time award to newt gingrich for again it being on the wrong side of history.
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ok it's time for happy hour on this monday evening and joining me tonight is there thompson senior editor at the atlantic and arkie correspondent christine thanks for joining me guys first starter is what do you think about the fact that gay marriage is finally legal in the state of new york i think it's about damn time i think it's actually wonderful and it's too bad that there's no state west of new york besides i wear that it has the same law i mean i really i'm very i'm from california and i'm ashamed of my home state of california i think california will be next i think it's really exciting and i think just what the republicans who kind of got on board with this i think we're seeing a shift in what's going to be acceptable to have as if you on this issue it was research coming out of california that showed that gay marriage actually keifer the economy marriage is an. eighty billion dollar industry in this country with three million ceremonies and. here even if gay marriage is bad for the economy this would still be good news coming out if you are going to try to cash cash it. was working as a reporter in california when it was legal remember it was legal for three or four
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seven months or something. and i did tons of economic stories of all the hotels that got booked and all of the wedding planners and the restaurants and things got really deathly was just really kind of i just think you know i think for people like us from our generation this is really it's such a non-issue i mean it's very important civil rights they share the sense that we all think that everybody should be able to. marry if they love somebody no matter what their sex is but i just think it over the fact that it's still such a big deal for for older americans and i really do think of they're on the wrong side of history at this point think that hopefully one day i'll be able to look back and laugh or think it was crazy about the fact that it even took so long which has a habit of being correct about all sorts of social issues they don't know who has an article of kids in the year twenty eighty looking back and saying how in god's name did it take so long for grandparents legalize gay marriage i mean i really do kind of like an easy fight about civil rights and i'm here and grandparents and he's an exactly that kind of issue i think we're going to look back and be sort of
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a shame in the. long run we do also who are saying that maryland is next but the thing i wonder about california is you know it's not like there it was the lawmakers that decided this is a referendum this is a valid and i think the ballot measure excuse me i think that a lot of times that that's why nothing happened because we saw the mormon church in california lobbying barry actively spending millions of dollars against it when do you think that if it was up to elected officials here from california to do that they would actually just voted for it i think that just because again i was i was working there at the time i think that the wording was very confusing to people that felt like they were for marriage rights for everybody had to vote no because they were voting no against the ban so i think that and there was a lot of you know not getting along on gay rights advocates in california in terms of getting this done the right way. but they felt that they had it in the bag in the beginning and then realized towards the very end oh my gosh we could lose this which they did in fact lose it i think it was bad campaigning i think that if it
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came around for a vote another time that it would pass. but you're right there is a difference between lawmakers deciding and voters decide it's all right let's move on to something it's not as this story just really makes me sad for you've all heard of the granny but the t.s.a. we have and it was questionable explain it more for you. for the woman says security agents asked her ninety five year old mother who was in a wheelchair to remove her diaper so they could complete a full search that happened at the northwest florida regional airport last weekend jeanne what was. she's ninety five she has leukemia she apparently had spoiled her diaper and didn't have any extra thing about this story is just so. you know you have to strike a balance between your freedom and security and i think that once you start taking the day pressure off ninety five year old women we could give you you sort of you've lost the war the war is about preserving freedom the words of a serving america if you're risking their duty if there is can get ninety five year
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old grandmothers to smuggle utensils on a plane some look they will lose that small battle there's a bigger battle to fight when i used to travel a lot and i would take off my shoes and take off my belt and you know basically strip down just to go through security i always used to say some of it is laughing right now because you know this is one way in which you want americans now they have to strip down just in order to travel a lot and of course no longer with us but i think this is another thing that those who are against this country and against our freedom this is a victory for them to see these kind of things happen it is i just saw this and i was just this is it disturbing i mean we've obviously seen a lot of these we do the t.s.a. the don't touch my junk stories and some of them are actually a little funny like the baby that had to be gross revenues think is absolutely ludicrous and stupid but this is just sad and i agree this is this is when you think that we're losing you know if you're going to take a citizen is going to smuggle a bomb in their grandmother's diaper that's when everything changes i mean the fact is it's not going to happen exactly the point that no ninety five year old
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grandmother is going to have a bomb i mean this is one of those things where i think we should let it go because the fact that yes they probably did this is going to create a backlash that might keep them from doing things that are somewhat they're defending and they are all bored with their actions on this let's move on to something else the supreme court ruled that. california's ban on selling violent video games to minors was actually unconstitutional and they overturned it all when talking about violent video games it's usually stuff where there's a lot of blood not a sex involved here's a little example for you. that i mean wasn't even really about blood it is the kind of. what do you think what he just has to write he said look this isn't literature but it's also not pornography and it's not pornography it's not obscenity then there is no there's no reason for
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us to allow the states to prohibit people from for buying it i always side with the supreme court when it comes to the first amendment and more protection rather than less i think this is one of those laws that it just once again favors families with parents who are actually involved in their children's lives they will not be affected by this because they sort of have more of involvement in what their children buy at the store they go with their children to the store you know when there's these kids which they're of which there are many in this country who their parents aren't around to see what they're buying and see what they're getting at the store that's when they're going to come home and find their kids playing studio game what the effects of that are again that's not our big debate right or there's any scientific evidence or not which the supreme court said that there was an ok this last one here for starters chris wallace has not been having a good couple of weeks right first jon stewart just demolished him made a complete idiot because he actually watch south park to prepare for the interview against a comedy central host and then of course you had michele bachmann who is now
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a g.o.p. presidential candidates on and he asked her this question it's not getting a lot of flak. you will see like. well i think that would be insulting to say something like that because i'm a serious person could do you recognize that now that you're in the spotlight in a way that you were before that you have to be careful to not say what some regard as. i asked her about her history of controversial comments some would say gaffes and i found myself saying at the end are you which is a comment that some people make about her. she seemed to be a little perturbed about but. you know the really frustrating thing about is you want to say god chris wallace is just such a jerk and would do that to anybody else you know that whatever you can call me that i call herman cain a flake and it's still a bad statement but the head regarding michele bachmann's gaffes let's just show you one last little clip of what she said today where i'm from you know it was like
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john wayne was from waterloo iowa was just kind of spears and i have to it's really . really john wayne gacy a serial killer from there but he has the same spirit as the many thoughts closing thoughts if you get if you're going to get mad on television about some calling you a flake you've got to back it up and for me to get out immediately with the next twelve hours unfortunately chris wallace had a good question why does not make you a flake i think chris wallace should not apologize he says he messed up because so many viewers wrote in and told him she shouldn't have asked that he doesn't really feel bad because she gave a good answer but here apologized rather he wasn't going to. like everyone else they were lied to when he was reporting up on thank you guys i think right now is there thanks for tuning in make sure you come back tomorrow coming up next is adam versus women. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something
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else here's some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't. turn our city. see. your leg and all the leg. length. for a few feet. for the.
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legs. let me get that we get an apartheid breitner leg i think rock easy to plenty well leg length. or never governor says here for him safely get ready because of the freedom. if. it isn't a.

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