tv [untitled] June 28, 2011 6:00pm-6:30pm EDT
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welcome to the lone a show where i look at the real headlines with none of the mersey i can live in washington d.c. now today will look over agree the violence has broken out as protesters and riot police clash the day ahead of a vote austerity measures to keep the country from defaulting but is greece just the tip of the iceberg what's that mean for the u.s. look at the future of the war in afghanistan who's going to be in command of the war effort and what does an attack by the taliban in kabul today really mean then
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why ask if obama has finally turned in to dick cheney and his legal battle against reporter james rosen where you have all that and more for a deny but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has missed. you know we've done quite a bit of trash talking on the show about the mainstream media's coverage of the casey anthony trial it's been incessant it's been over the top it's been quite ridiculous to say the least but today's coverage i think takes the cake every single cable news network for at least two or three hours this morning we told her in our office had nothing on it screens but the casey anthony trial they discussed every piece of evidence every little minuscule piece of paper every question and answer i mean it was non stop it was kind of like the rest of the world stopped by casey anthony was the only thing going on. here leave this what's happening now george anthony's on the stand and he's being question. about his relationship and
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did he have some kind of inappropriate relationship with one of the searchers and the first time that they searched your home they left a search warrant at your home on december eleventh yes and no sir did they leave an inventory she telling you what they confiscated no sir they didn't. remember approached. of the room there. was. no sir. you know boggles my mind most is why c.n.n. m.s.n. b.c. and fox supposedly hard hitting news networks are covering this h l n tru t.v. though things like this for a reason for the people who want to watch mindless melodramas unfold but catholic news should also exist for a reason maybe they should have run a few hearings on capitol hill today and dissected every word of those where obama's legal advisers are being grilled about their unexplainable explanation for why the war in libya doesn't count as hostilities or the hearing where the new
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commander of troops in afghanistan and the new head of special operations are testifying or maybe maybe they should remember the seven year anniversary of a story that used to make the news. much of the world was caught off guard today by the handover of political power by the u.s. to the new iraqi government it was scheduled for wednesday even some members of the iraqi cabinet didn't know that iraq was about to become a largely sovereign nation again in a room that had been somebodies office only a few minutes earlier and iraqi leaders said this was an historic day and the u.s. had not shed blood in vain. this year. that's right seven years ago iraq was handed over its sovereignty of course the occupying force of foreign militaries and was supposed to become an independent post saddam country that represented democracy in the region i don't think anyone really believes any of that crowd but they sure reported it like they did it and
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guess what seven years later we're still in iraq we saw about fifty thousand troops there and hear from the reporting by the mainstream media last september seems like they really believe that when obama said the cop combat operations had all come to an end they were all out i think every reporter they had on to be on the ground for this big moment there are four hundred and forty american troops in this convoy traveling in sixty. today's big. i think you get the point right so what happened to all of that kind of bear is in now when you realize that it defense secretary robert gates gets his way our troops are staying there maybe not all fifty thousand but believe me our permanent presence at this point is just the reality so much for handing over that sovereignty so much for ending combat operations but even worse is of course that this is the war that everyone forgets or even fighting anymore try to tell that to the families of the troops that are continuing to lose their lives this month alone eleven u.s. soldiers have died in iraq including today and i make for the deadliest month there
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since two thousand and nine but those deaths no longer get reporters on the ground the whole war doesn't disappear in a headline or a quick video here and there that's what the mainstream media chooses to miss. greece once again erupted in violence today as protesters throwing rocks clashed with about three thousand riot police from the tear gas announced the first of a two day strike of the greek parliament is set to vote tomorrow on a new five year austerity package of spending cuts and tax increases and the bill is expected to pass but if not greece is going to run out of money within weeks and the tensions across europe are mixed all british prime minister david cameron pleaded with his country for people not to protest french president nicolas sarkozy said that an agreement on greek austerity had been reached and that caused us
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stocks to rise with optimism well what is austerity really going to look like for greece compared to a default i will placing a band-aid on this wound only highlight those elsewhere like portugal and spain it's been reported that in a stress test to come out soon when six european banks is set to fail and while the u.s. congress is entrenched in its own debate over budgets and faults when we look to europe as an example discuss this with me is anthony randolph the director of economic research for the reason foundation and we thank so much for being here tonight well for starters everyone is just waiting on pins and needles to see what actually happens there saying that the vote is expected do you have any insights there as to what's good we've done i think will be seven am eastern time fortunately i don't know really in the parliament to get a good sense of what's going to happen but i do think it's impressive the general sense of reporting coming out of greece is that because it has to pass there really is no alternative but if they go in in theory they could run the boat the next day but they were as you just mentioned they've got
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a couple weeks of basically just of you know the summer until they have no more money and then they're going to wind up having to do all this stuff anyway because they're going to be monitoring the services in the first place that they really are they have no choice do you think at the end of the day no matter what it's still better to enact these austerity measures perhaps to raise taxes than it is to just allow them to the fall and start a new because that's the language that we're starting to hear here at home here in the u.s. when it comes to the debate over raising the debt. i think from the american perspective we actually shouldn't have anything to do with this i think we should in the in the united states should not be involved in trying to say to preach from an american policy perspective if leaving them alone just means letting them default and let it sort of self that that that's what i think we should do leave anybody alone in today's economy is really just doesn't work that way we're not also isolated what the the people who should be if they need to build them out build a mile or the european union the eurozone which they are largely driving this effort the i.m.f. is involved which means the united states is involved but this is truly being driven by france and germany because they're afraid of how this is going to impact
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their taxes if greece does to fall what that means practically speaking is one very going to be able to borrow money for another ten years a good example that is argentina which thousand and one and still is very difficult for it to borrow money but it means to greek banks. banks european banks particularly in germany and france are going to have their credit worthiness downgraded and that's going to cause a lot of problems in europe but it also means that the other countries portugal ireland italy and spain they could look to this and say i will this is kind of what happened greece is already default of this is already destabilize the euro we're just going to go that same route and that creates even more problems for those banks this is the euro problems not the united states problems but at the end of the day i mean let's face it right if greece were to default on its debt this would trickle down to the united states somehow this would affect our economy it's certain certainly will impact our economy in some respects we have got american companies that are over there we know the european economy is hurt that means that there's less people buying our products that stuff in the case but it doesn't
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necessarily mean the united states needs to be the lender of last resort for everybody in the world why you know you bring up the i.m.f. and so of course today there are some needs and i am that they christine legarde has been chosen france is a former finance minister to take over here but of course there is a lot of a lot of discussion after the strauss kahn lack as to whether it's time for some new leadership maybe doesn't have to be europe anymore and we actually have an interesting sound bite here this is our reporters from moscow did an interview with jim rogers who thinks that maybe china needs to have a bit of a greater role of thinking about. if they become the savior they become a large creditor for europe they're going to have a very major seat at the table it's going to prove their position in the i.m.f. it's going to produce improved position with the world bank it's going to improve their position if you win because you know the europeans are going to have to be more and more friendly to china because china is saving the american i cannot say.
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what you think is the other point but everyone's going to have to start being real friendly to china because next time you need a bailout that's going to help that's possible you know we don't know really that much i think honestly about the future of china a lot of people there's a lot of speculation a lot of people have lots of opinions but the information that comes out of china is often very sketchy in terms of how real we real economic data is how much is are really being gamed so it could be that over the next ten twenty years china actually is going to rise to that place as a lot of people think that they are where they are going to be but the next level of bailouts or could be that the china miracle is somewhat of a myth and actually they can't sustain eight percent g.d.p. growth over the next five and then ten and fifteen years and that they're going to become like any other emerging market nation which is slowly rising to being like many other developed countries i do think though that china having more of a role in how the i.m.f. works is important because it is the international monetary fund at this point there is sort of a gentlemen's rule that european runs that and i think that having another person
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step into that role other than christine lagarde would have been important whether it is somebody from china or even somebody from turkey i think that just handing it off to somebody else from france doesn't necessarily signal towards the future that europe wants to play well with your rest of the g. twenty and some of these other nations that are rising to the forefront of the global economic c.l. are definitely people out there that are not happy about that let's say going back to the u.s. to the budget negotiations now the president is leading because eric cantor and john boehner just had a bell they don't want anything to do with it i mean it's really becoming this absolute mess. so you know what do you think is going to happen when it comes down to august second do you think that they should allow the u.s. to evolve one on august second even if we don't raise it so it doesn't mean that we automatically default it means that we have to start choosing which we and whether or not the united states defaults or if we're going to cut back spending another service and what do you think of a which was going well i i really honestly think that we were going to slow down payment of some social security or medicare funds or something else or whether even
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defense money before we let the united states government default so that means that basically in order to keep the u.s. government afloat in order to try to tell people that hey we still are reliable you should still buy a treasuries they were just going to make everyone else the older people of her hands though those that need the welfare we're going to let them suffer it's not it's not a good situation for the oath and we can do is we can actually put in place some serious long term spending reform and then that could mean increasing taxes that could mean you know cutting too true unfortunately it's a trillion dollars that figure the agree is no it is not always right want to listen to it i don't think it would be helpful but there are the things that we can do and i think that the administration would prefer to put in place a plan that allows for say two trillion dollars in cuts over the short term period of time and then figure out how long term budget looks like before we before i think they would they would prefer that but then where is it that we're hearing these voices that are you know i don't necessarily think the republican leadership
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wants the us to do called on a debt they definitely want that to happen they don't want business to get hurt they don't want the banks to get hurt but then we are hearing this from some of these tea party politicians do they actually know what that would look like how many people would suffer and i feel like you're not honest with america i don't think no one really and no one really knows what it looks like so there is a challenge when we talk about this apocalypse if we if we default and what that actually looks like and the fact the matter is we're not really quite sure it could be that we say to certain bondholders actually we're going to say we're going to hold off on the money that we give you and no one. freaks out i know everybody just recognizes ok well united states isn't paying right now but we're pretty sure they're good for it six months down the road or it could be that everybody starts pouring in. the united states government just completely stops how that trickles down to the actual real commie to main street is going to take a little bit of time we don't really know what it looks like so if you're in the tea party you know that you've got your principles that you believe in so that's
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what you're going to stand firm on because you think that's the best way that it's going to work out and i don't think that we should be spending any more money than we should be but i also think that the the most practical way to get out of this is to raise the debt ceiling for a short term period of time up until the end of this budget year because we have to figure out fiscal year two thousand trails budget after this that's how your heart is as we figure out the stats and then we have this other thing called our budget next year we didn't pass a budget last year i would be on precedent if we didn't do it two years in a row so we start to figure that out put in place is something practical like ending fannie mae and freddie mac. in exchange for raising the debt ceiling just of the september and then we can have the two thousand and twelve budget discussion which we need to be having now we're wasting time we can have that discussion and that's going to put in place ten years spending in terms of projections and we can figure out the debt ceiling as part of that i am thinking that all sounds are really nice but i feel like you have been taking a look around in washington lately of the of the notion of a practical a logical discussion or debate here is just mind boggling with specially with the
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fact that we have another presidential election coming up i don't think it's going to go anywhere but you know it's interesting because we've seen some polls that show that a lot of americans actually wouldn't mind that the u.s. defaulting on its debt and i feel like that's because no one's being honest with them that this could indeed catastrophe thanks so much for joining us. and still to come tonight from b.p. able to track you with t.v.'s warrant protocol to answer that question now the war in afghanistan is going to the general for a change in command on the ground actually make any difference for american what about. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here sees some other part of it and realize that everything is ok you don't. charge welcome to the big picture.
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one well. we're never going to says they're keeping safe to get ready because of their freedom. well supreme court has agreed to take up a case to decide whether or not it's illegal for police to attach g.p.s. devices onto a person's car without first obtaining a warrant ok governments urging the supreme court finally gave the ok on monday to hear this case after federal courts throughout the country have all given several conflicting rulings now a case that's going to take center stage at the highest court involves a drug dealer who was tracked without his knowledge before being arrested and when
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the u.s. court of appeals overturned the drug dealer's conviction due to not having a warrant for the g.p.s. device it further fueled the debate about the government's ability to use this technology without first getting permission from a judge b.c. it's all part of a larger issue that we've brought up several times in the past where individuals who aren't necessarily what you would call suspicious characters find themselves being tracked by the facts and on this program we interviewed gosar afifi he found a g.p.s. device on his car during an oil change and he said that he thinks he was just being targeted because of his muslim heritage makes me feel like they're treating me like a terrorist or criminal and they're arguing my rights as an american citizen i was born and raised here so i feel different and this sort of nice feeling. now we also told you about activists who have found these devices stuck under their cars without ever interacting a face to face with any federal agent and despite the fact the feds say that they
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can go into your driveway to actually attach these devices your vehicle but also completely overlooking an individual's ability to consider any area immediately surrounding their home to guard their privacy the legal term called cartilage now critics like the a.c.l.u. have been attempting to tackle this method of tracking had they say that it's a complete violation of your fourth amendment rights which states that you're protected from unreasonable search and seizure and require that law enforcement must have paid a warrant from a judge with probable cause completely bypassing the need for a warrant opens the door. for law enforcement to track and keep tabs on anybody the day deemed suspicious even if there's no justifiable reason so even though there is plenty of president that g.p.s. tracking without a warrant violates or for the men rights the obama administration is moving full speed ahead to make sure that it isn't a problem in fact the government said that there needs to be a prompt solution of this conflict because it's a critical element for law enforcement efforts throughout the country where you know what the government is so in favor of this unconstitutional use of technology
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why isn't there a bigger outcry of americans it team obama gets its way that means that all americans are subject to being under the magnifying glass without any discussion from a judge so given police across the country a blanket all for you to spy on people with g.p.s. is something that i think we should be wary of after all we've told you about several instances where police abuse their powers make mistakes or just maliciously choose to follow people who really should ever be suspects and surely there are just as many instances like these that have been reported so not only is obama once again let his voters down by being pro warrantless wire to excuse me g.p.s. tracking but he's opening up another level for police to invade your privacy and singlehandedly stomping on the fourth amendment crucial piece of the bill of rights so it looks like the supreme court is now going to have the power to say goodbye to that privacy and hello to more government surveillance or to stand up to the obama administration on this important issue. now the president obama has announced a withdrawal of the troop surge in afghanistan by summer of two thousand and twelve
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and now the general david petraeus has been approved by the senate intelligence committee to take over the cia what's the next year and even more actually going to look like in afghanistan who's taking over what strategies are they going to employ well today marine corps lieutenant general john allen and vice admiral william mcraven both testified in front of the senate armed services committee to answer those questions and if confirmed also likely the answer is yes allen will be the commander of u.s. and nato forces in afghanistan but it seems like the man with the real. will power from here on out will be the one who isn't losing any numbers of craven is going to be leaving his post at the head of j. start fresh off a successful raid to kill osama bin laden so we'd all u.s. special operations command so we expect more night raids drone strikes and killing rather than be friending and does that mean that counter insurgency as a strategy is yet to discuss this with me as lawrence korb senior fellow at the center for american progress points thanks so much for being here going to be here
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before we get into some of these personalities who's going to be taken over let's talk about something that happened in kabul today there was a terrorist attack over the moment the numbers are very sketchy we don't know if there were two people or six militants that enter and started shooting we know there was a blast that went off at the intercontinental hotel now this is a place where mostly foreigners visit or reside this is a place where reportedly there may have been a meeting between afghan and western officials today so what does that tell you i mean is that really bad news that they got into kabul they went specifically to the internet continental well it tells you two things number one that the insurgents the taliban whatever you want to call them have switched their tactics because it's very hard for to undo against a nato force yourself over the last year particularly if they are yours so there was already two suicide attacks which get a lot of attention to the other is that the insurgency if you will where people are
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not happy with the government. related go away everybody so they are able to use these people who theoretically have been cleared or war supposedly. good people to go we to. secure facilities and this is happening all over the country do you think of this is trying to send more of a message specifically to foreign troops especially if they go to the intercontinental maybe foreign troops but foreign diplomats anyone who was there well i think when you go. the hotels like it's called got a little serener which are heavily guarded and basically are the places where visitors. were users not common ordinary people are trying to send a signal because most of those people have troops in afghanistan to pay for security is not getting any better because this gets more more attention than say a taliban attack if you know one of the sort of provinces well especially in this case a lot more attention than let's say if there was an attack where civilians were entailed
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or even unfortunately i think if if a number of u.s. troops were killed i mean how would that change things how do you think you would receive it if some high ranking member was to get injured as well though because this is a battle if you will. the perceptions and what the taliban are the insurgents are trying to show is look even though you're claiming you got all these gains are you taking over those two or three people are not any more safe if you were we'll show you what we have for your people you know you people who are georget so it's psychologically very similar to what would be a cargo did he. actually gave the tet offensive you know where they got close to the american embassy and people say wait a second i thought we were winning this war actually it was a military before for the psychological victory well one of the things that general petraeus at least tried to be good at or i think maybe a good time congress convinced maybe not myself was was being able to really spin
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the war and to give a good perception when he came home and tried to you know tell people what do you suppose it gains look like now general petraeus is heading over to the cia so let's talk about these two characters we have william mcraven and we have lieutenant general john allen who do you think is really going to have more power here the commander of the troops or the one that's ahead in charge of special operations well basically the commander of the troops of the area he general allen will have altered what can be obviously if there's an operation. special operations forces you're going to have the head of the special don't you think that we're going to start seeing a lot more operations with special. forces a sickly. response for example that you haven't and obviously pakistan along the pakistan afghanistan border counterinsurgency is not something we do well it's not something that the american people have a great deal with patience for it doesn't play to your technological strength so
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yes you're going to see as we call it counterterrorism where you use the special operations people forget you know iraq you have got an awful lot of special operations going on while we're talking about counterinsurgency and even where we have this counterinsurgency strategy what it all it's a lot of counterterrorism operations are already going well you'll hear from some of the biggest advocates for a counterinsurgency that it just didn't get enough time that you know that we spent two years perhaps in afghanistan that we should get our focus to iraq and then we had an eight year hiatus or a counterinsurgency was implemented properly and they're trying to sell it the strategy like it still works and if you think that instead you think they are on capitol hill all eyes are to try to get well i think it can't work unless you have a reliable partner and the question because even if you called it quote we know hearts and minds of the people when you leave will they support the karzai government we see in iraq now ok they have to expend a tremendous amount of blood and treasure we call on the violence the hell do you rocky's was supposed to make the political compromises they did make oh so you have trouble the only use of sea water problems in iraq kosovo bench really it's got to
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be a government that the people support they're not going to support a former government now and it's hearing so far both raven and general allen didn't have any harsh words to say for the obama administration's plan for drawing down the troops actually they say they're putting on a face like they support it but do you think that they really mean that that's right you know what i think it's interesting because mike rated basically said that he is not being affected but of our special ops guys none of the most elite units are leaving. it's general allen's losing thirty three thousand dollars going to be losing but again it was a what we're talking about are you talking about military police or you're talking about you know infantry or special forces are you talking about people who you military construction you're talking about five people i think that was general allen sports. even after these thirty three thousand troops are withdrawn which is going to be at least a year before they are all out you could still have twice as many troops as you
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have in obama came into office so the idea that somehow you're cutting and running it leaving just is not true and on the other hand you are as i was general allen pointed out you're sending a signal to the afghan government you just can't leave iraq you're going to have to start getting your own security forces or your own act together as general allen kind of getting the short end of the stick general petraeus gets to leave another war well i think it's going to be difficult for general allen like he was difficult which at all is there only if the general petraeus left it would rock to really do the hard work of sitting just stay through it's very easy to commit if you get a lot more troops to make temporary gains the real question do you make dorval gains and i thank you very much for joining us thank you probably. well our tuesday edition of show intel is just ahead and last last week we told you about an alpha let's the first war of the police as a major update on that story of a good environment when we come back and also ahead has president obama turned into cheney's that's the argument being made over how the obama administration is
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handling the case involving reporter james risin and his confidential source but i think that it's a signal. that only the military making use of this if you don't work to bring justice and accountability. and i have every right to know what my government's doing you want to know why i keep taxes. but i would characterize the bottom line as the care was in the. a version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then he glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm trying hard welcome to the big picture.
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