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wealthy british style it's time to. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to conjure reports .
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both for drastic spending cuts and a tax hike to secure another bailout despite days of clashes between police and protesters outside the greek parliament. the pressure mounts on syrian president assad r.t. investigates intelligence reports that missiles are being moved from the country under the control of lebanese militant group hezbollah analysts say the collapse of the syrian government could have catastrophic implications for the region eleven thousand people have been injured in clashes with police in your gyptian capital cairo demonstrators are demanding the prosecution of security forces accused of brutality during the mass uprising that led to the ousting of president mubarak in february. time now for part one of the alona show stay with us here on r.t. .
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lack of the loner show will get the real headlines with none of mercy i can live out of washington d.c. now tonight we'll speak with matt welch and nick gillespie about their new book the declaration of independence how libertarian politics can save america we'll get an update on the case of the newburgh four who received their sentencing today and will speak with advocates varying from the young turks about a new trend that affects women but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to miss. while sarah palin has managed to make her way into the headlines again and this time because somebody else decided to make a movie about her because the media then used that movie as an excuse to follow her every single move and once again skip over anything that actually matters in this world sheryl paling brought her brand of celebrity to a movie premier attended by about three hundred it is
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a wonderful story about american values even if the reception you're getting here no no no it's no warm and literally no other way oh nice to get to office now even though i know that of course is the million dollar question is she going to run no answers to that here just a lot of speculation and. now you know what i'd really love about this is you'll see pundits anchors or helots on the cable networks all talk about how sarah palin is such a huge distraction how it's just so unfair that the real presidential candidates out there have their stars dimmed by such a money grubbing media whore ok maybe they don't use those exact words but i will anyway the point is that it's the weakest and the lamest excuse for analysis that i've ever seen here's an idea you don't have to cover her if you don't. i want to and then you can focus on those other suppose that the real candidates and i know i know it's really some groundbreaking logic that i'm bestowing upon you so give it
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a little time to sink it but when you wake up from your sarah palin wet dream let's remember that there's that whole economic crisis in this country there's a recession high unemployment a demolished housing market about the fact that we are out of money but i know that talking about our impending economic doom just isn't all that much fun so how about we pick an area to start cutting right i can't be that hard to big just want the thing is i've got that perfect starting point it's called defense you know we hear a lot of figures thrown out about our wars in iraq and afghanistan i thought it's costing us a million dollars per soldier per year in afghanistan we've heard the one trillion dollar number thrown around as the total cost of both wars but guess what it is much much more than that new research project from brown university about the costs of war have found that we've already spent two point three to two point seven trillion dollars the final bill although honestly i don't even know how you calculate a final at this point seeing as both war seem to be never ending that's going to run to be at least three point seven trillion and could reach as high as four point
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four trillion and the truth is considering that our military is now hoping that iraq will ask us to stay past the withdrawal deadline and they were making plans for permanent bases in afghanistan i think it's going to be a lot more now and then how else could we forget we already can't afford these wars so they're being financed by deficit spending so when you factor in all that interest there's an extra about trillion that hasn't even been tacked on i'd say that that's a problem and i'd say that that's a good place to start cutting down the mainstream media would rather focus on sarah pailin or the semantic the fake debate on capitol hill and he said she said the gets us nowhere meanwhile the costs of wars how they attribute to our current situation something they choose to miss. well we often hear the term that washington is broken but our entire political system is in fact broken we've only got two parties to choose from with with each
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passing day only seem to look more like yet from the politicians talking points that we hear the sound bites that are played on the news the pundits the crowd the airwaves they'll try to convince you that the country has never been so polarized and that that's the true problem why nothing got done and you're either a democrat or you're republican and there is no in between and that's why all legislation and meaningful reform get stalled that excuse might not work for much longer the two party system represents fewer and fewer americans the truth is that independents are the fastest growing bloc of american voters and that's exactly who my guests tonight are reaching out to you telling them that it's time to mobilize in their book they describe someone who might be an independent someone has an unfavorable opinion of congress you don't think too kindly about bailing out wall street and car companies or letting big pharma write the new healthcare law or having the f.c.c. regulate the internet but they write this sort of thing keeps happening all the time so why is that well it's get them to answer that question joining me to
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discuss this are and there's nick gillespie for reason t.v. and reason dot com and matt wells for reason magazine are both authors of the book declaration of independence how libertarian politics can fix what's wrong with america gentlemen thank you for coming on tonight i have both of you know you have just come one of the time so you wrote a book together i don't care is it or to find out how to actually write about it without tearing your head off but what do you call this is a manifesto what are you trying to declare here it's an empty political political manifesto our whole worldview is predicated upon the idea that life is too important to spend all the time going to meetings and setting up special action committees and things like that the focus of the book and what we think would help america in the world is if we squeeze politics down to the smaller size that it should occupy in our lives so we can get. with doing stuff like starting businesses falling in love having children and watching t.v. on the cable box and part of what we're doing is telling americans you're not crazy
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for dropping out the great trend of the last forty years in american politics is that independents have now become by many measures the largest bloc of voters and that's especially true in the last ten years as we've had kind of a bipartisan explosion in the war in the size and growth of government and bailout economics and all of this and partisans always tell you like oh the independents they're terrible because they illinformed and they don't really know what they're doing and all this kind of stuff we're here to say actually know what they're making a rational choice and it's one that mimics what we're choosing in our media what we're choosing and in our private lives we are all refusing to be sort of in a binary world view where we're under one kind of dominance and useless but are you trying to tell them that they should be libertarians or telling them that they should step away from democrats and republicans and toy with a little you know it's more than the word libertarian and we think a lot of the animists a lot of the energy in the country is libertarian which simply means that people are socially tolerant and fiscally conservative there's that's growing there's no
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question but what we're talking about more is we're in terms of independents we're describing a shift where they no longer when they're asked they don't want to identify with the republican or democratic party because each of these parties misrepresents itself has done their very best to spend us into the poorhouse and you know they star wars they bail out companies that nobody wants the smart reaction to say enough and a majority of americans by every measure want they want a government that spends less money and does less things now i get back to a point you made earlier you said that you don't plan americans far perhaps dropping out right at the end of the day the fact is i don't think politics really plays that great of a role in the average american life they don't they're not likely not easily here in washington d.c. they don't sit around and watch what everyone has to say and what every politician has to say so in order for them to. to get politics out of their life they first have to get into politics. we talk about independence in politics and independence from politics if you look at how what are some intractable issues that we're
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finally starting to see some progress on and what was the avenue for that progress that's an interesting question so on something like the drug war a total bipartisan cluster by every stretch of the imagination no one actually defends this stuff it's just a status quo that lives on so if you elect a politician thinking that he's going to be better on the drug war you lose so how do you change things you find other weirdos who think are weirdos actually it's about getting to be a majority position but who think that this is unconscionable and you organize yourself using the tools of of the private sphere using online possibilities and you kicked the door open through a medical marijuana initiatives that are now in sixteen or seventeen states you organize yourself outside of politics to the point where politicians finally eventually kicking and screaming will find their star necessarily need to find a certain politician and that has a serious issue we don't need a ron paul that's constantly going on and not about that well ron ron paul and gary johnson in the current political crop of the republicans i find personally
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attractive candidates for the most part but what we're talking about is that no you know what if you are going after politics if you're looking for political leaders sure you're losing out on what's really happening when you look at the education revolution i mean it's not because we've had like an endless succession of education presidents all they do is blow up the status quo they spend more and more money on failed policies so what you need to do is to come up with ways to create your own charter schools opt out of the current system and finally just bring it down to its knees and that's what will happen it's not and that's why the tea party is so important their focus not on one party or the other party but on reducing spending and as long as they stay focused on that and independent from either party there with their actually working to change the logic of politics that isn't. to a howard dean movement which got subsumed in the democratic party and now is there's no antiwar movement on the left now and we're going to have you know to my
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dismay but i don't think that. people don't necessarily do so much on their local level because they feel a little overwhelmed because if you look at the debate in the country right now you say that we're in a recession unemployment is so high we're about to reach you know we're about to top off on our on our dads and the whole country might default then isn't that the time to start focusing on washington and if we're going to talk about the politics of it all actually i just want to play a little clip of what's been going on when it comes to the debt ceiling debate let's take a look. nobody believes that united states is going to walk away from its obligations . are going to tell you what i said this is the moment and this is the opportunity to exactly what i mean dealing with this this debt problem and this deficit problem is far more important the medium some artificial date created by the treasury secretary the validity of the public debt of the united states authorized by law shall not be question this alone is basically makes the idea of
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a debt ceiling unconstitutional that's the argument right. ok so we had a deficit negotiations that were going on for a while with joe biden then a few people decide to drop out now the president is stepping it now we're being told that whole august second deadline isn't even really real they were being told that some democrats think that the entire debt ceiling is unconstitutional i mean i feel like this is going absolutely nowhere is that the perfect example of what's wrong with politics you know first off i mean this you know the august second deadline is about the fifth deadline that tim geithner is given saying ok this is what it's going to happen we really have to do something the fact is that you know a decade ago we were less than a decade ago we dealt with a similar issue or fifteen years ago there are ways around hitting the debt ceiling does not mean the same thing as the faulting on the debt what we are seeing we haven't had a budget in this country i mean we're acting you know we get. greece's case at least they passed a stupid budget where we without a budget there's no reason to believe one will be passed before the two thousand and twelve elections i'd like can't they pass and why can't they do anything. it's
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a really good question we're going to go guys i don't want to go but this is i've already don't do anything yet but this is what has happened though is because you know it's partly because obama when he controlled the government when the democrats controlled the government they didn't pass a budget that's one of the reasons you want us back far. beyond the law and now they're asking a budget actually it does though is not been doing much for a long while they've been doing. as well as the adults are going to are going through a number of other things but last year was the first time that we did not pass a budget since new processes were put in place in nine hundred seventy four it is unconscionable when when the democrats controlled every branch of the federal government and they did not pass a budget that is just going to get a question i think we were seeing what is almost an unprecedented gap between the wishes of the american people who are right now much more radical in some senses than i am i want to comes to cutting our budget they were seventy five percent majorities want to cost two tional amendment to balance the budget that's pretty
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crazy high that's happening right now at a time when we still have this left over bipartisan consensus of bad economics politicians are beginning to get terrified they don't want to lift a finger on this issue because they know that what they believe in is a lot at odds with the american people and they're going to they're afraid to get to get to ask you something about that right because part of what you preach here is the fact that government should be more decentralized it should be more democratized in terms of it should be up to the people sometimes i can turn into being up to the whims of the masses who let's face it sometimes have crazy ideas and you know a lot of times the more you will say to your segregationists and you're going to you know we're going to battle against that then you shoes in the united states are not because people are closet segregation and it's not because the masses are screwed up it's because the politicians are weak willed they don't want to write a budget that the. be held to because their power off the bat i don't know but i may be saying what everyone in the their family she is everything well i mean i would have a horrible horrible freedom what do you mean no there's nothing wrong with that
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there's nothing wrong with that i mean we shouldn't necessarily submit everything to a majority vote those constitutional protections in this country for a very good reason but the overall arc not just in this country but the entire world has been especially over the last forty twenty years everything is trending towards individual choice where individuals have more power more freedom for what they want to do than what they were able to have twenty years ago thirty years ago forty years ago public policy has to go in that direction it is going in that direction kicking and screaming despite every best effort of the politicians so i think if you give people more control they will of course choose more freedom if they have a choice and then you won't necessarily agree with everything i mean you know for instance you know people should have more choice of where their kids go to schools you know what i mean i think that's a given some people are going to go to schools that i would think are stupid or useless but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have that option also we have we have to wrap it up here and i have got a minute left but how are you telling people to make that choice in your book here
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were the it's not a voter guide you know it's actually you know hey come on in the water's fine type of statement to political independence and we have our specific policy prescriptions or beginnings of ideas for things like k. through twelve education medicare other entitlements and tractable foreign policy problems the drug war and these kind of things but it's also to tell people if you detach yourself from the usual boring pendulum that you address the top of your show constantly if you step back and have more of an independent view the world looks more interesting and then you have actually more power you can get the politicians to start working for you once you stop believing their crap and you know we're talking about only that when i see it when they actually finally start working for us i have no doubt it happens that i get there at a time that thank you very much for. that question of independence out there terry in politics thanks america thanks guys. thank you are there still more to come tonight on the media's lockdown the casey anthony trial presents a witness and should be paying attention to the birth or also the government played
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a role in turning these men their prison sentences and i want to ask why nobody cares back in the. we've got. the biggest issues good voice ceased to face with the news makers. it's being called the trial of the century only to be compared with the historic
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o.j. simpson trial that occurred back in the one nine hundred ninety s. and there is no doubt that there is endless media coverage of the casey anthony trial and everyone is willing to give their two cents on what should happen in that courtroom but perhaps the media outcry should be shifted to instances where the government is setting up individuals to commit crimes and then locking them up for doing so i'm talking about entrapment for example or the oregon christmas tree bomber nineteen year old somali born mohammed also muhammad who was opening critical of the u.s. attempted to set off a car bomb in portland that was put together and given to him by undercover f.b.i. agents now while mohammed is being accused of using weapons of mass destruction a lot would argue a lot of people would argue it really is a case of entrapment or how about twenty one year old muhammad is saying he was also given a bomb by undercover f.b.i. agents while he was charged with attempted murder for planting a fake bomb it was also the center of an f.b.i. sting operation that had been underway for months so should the idea of entrapment at least be considered when you're throwing murder murder charges at someone now
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keeping these examples of suspected entrapment in mind let's take a closer look at the group under the magnifying glass today the new word for three of the four suspects have been sentenced to twenty five years in prison for attempting to shoot down planes at stewart air national guard base and for attempting to blow up synagogues in the bronx but the defense for the suspects say that since undercover agents with the f.b.i. offered up a specific type of missile and even picked the location where these men would have to call. harm and the feds have completely manipulated the case artie's marina portnoy has more in the sentencing and why the media should be paying more attention to this case in new york. may two thousand and nine according to the f.b.i. the four men intended to carry out their plan today for african american muslims are arrested early episodes are paraded in front of new york news cameras presented as the faces of homegrown terrorism the divisions that. jewish facilities here in the bronx and also take on a military aircraft. a terrifying plot the f.b.i.
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claims to have toward the suspects quickly dubbed the new book for our poor illiterate ex conflicts with neither passports nor licenses no direction by a foreign entity or a real terrorist group instead direction came from shahid hussein a pakistani immigrant on the f.b.i. payroll reportedly paid nearly one hundred thousand dollars for his services f.b.i. operatives provided the fake c four and actually showed a fake stinger missile according to court testimony hussein recruited the economically strapped defended spy offering carson cash to carry out the orchestrated operation then the agent provocateur testified as the government's key witness in post nine eleven on there are the f.b.i. has upped its anti against terrorism allegedly boiling hot summers the country question is will there be any lots of oil with our government form in place to help
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create that despite surprisingly little criticism from amnesty international and human rights watch others have expressed a lord over what they term entrapment a prop just considered unacceptable in countries all throughout europe but i don't think it is i'm nobody is trapped in a leash in mcwilliams mccullum is the honor of twenty nine year old david williams one of the new birth for she says her nephew. is languishing behind bars for a fake terror attack grown in the home of the u.s. government they ave creating scenarios they are manufacturing crimes that would not have occurred in new had not planned on unconstructive see it into a community be a real terrorists out there that we should be concerned about and they should use those resources to find those individuals in not sit back and rely on a moment to make up crime well these are all people that we began to identify
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attorney steve downs who tracks cases like newburgh for argues the u.s. government is systematically employing preemptive prosecution targeting those whom officials deem predisposed to committing crimes before an actual crime is committed there taking some really down and rather vulnerable individuals and not only implanting the ideology of jihad and giving them all the things that they need all of the material setting up the plan doing all the research everything else and then grabbing them and then claiming that these were homegrown terrorists this is just a fiction downs created this ten foot wide visual listing the names of individuals he believes were entrapped by the f.b.i. government the size of for some reason your ideology is causes them concern because then they can come after you and they can manufacture crimes against you and they can make up a whole case and put you through the whole thing and eventually if they can persuade a jury that this manufactured case is valid you can go away to jail for
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a very long time guilty verdicts for all formats as is the case of david williams and the other defendants sentenced to twenty five years in prison i don't have slaveholders i got government owns a government that will sell a family all for political gain. and this is a god damn shame there's a sam said to be a god damn larry king today. new york. well joining me with more details on this trial is our to correspond marina fortnight in our studio in new york now marina when the judge was giving the twenty five year sentence today she said that there was outrageous government misconduct that was exercised in this case did she give more detail as to what exactly she meant by that. she certainly did although the judge listed several incidents in which she believed that the government used misconduct in trying to induce these guys into
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committing this crime and misconduct was in part used by a government paid informant that was dealing with these men and offering them bribes or you know in such as two hundred fifty thousand dollars in cash w. to go through with this so-called oil plot the judge also did say that if it were not for the government informant if it were not for the f.b.i. to orchestrate this plan that these four men would have never been capable of carrying something out or making plans of something like this the judge also noted that it was the the f.b.i. informant that proposed that the men fire stinger missiles at u.s. planes that were taking off from stewart airport and so she was listing on and on and on all of the all of the inducements all of the suggestions and ideas that came from the government paid informant that were were driving these men around trying
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to collectively gather these men together to carry out a plan that was orchestrated by the government paid informant and the f.b.i. so if she was going on and on and on and on with all these examples that she acknowledged the government misconduct there i'm just confused and why did she give them a twenty five year sentence how did she explain that. it is a little bit confusing here's why because of statutory mandatory minimum sentencing the judge's hands were tied and she did say that she did say my hands are tied because of these stinger missiles that were allegedly planned to be used in the so-called top u.s. planes that put charred. is it gets these men into an area in which there is a statutory mandatory minimum that the judge now haas to give these men because they were found guilty by a jury you know she had
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a choice of giving them twenty five years or life in prison she believe it or not chose the most the least severe sentence she could give them and it opens opens a door for appeal she went very far with her rhetoric could she have completely shunned aside what the jury decided it seemed to me from what she was saying that she could it that it wasn't legal for her to do so but she made it very clear that the government practiced a lot of misconduct when trying to arrest these guys charge these guys and convict these guys now when it comes to the government prosecutors were they still arguing for a life in prison instead of just twenty five years. they certainly were believe it or not alone they stood up and said that these men that the prosecutor said all four men the newburgh four are ticking time bombs that they agreed to this plot that they were excited about this plot and i just want to read you
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a quote from the prosecutor he said if this plot would have been carried out it would have been a colazal terrorist attack and the fact that it was fake does not matter they even acknowledge that it was a fake plot nothing was ever executed these were men that were lured in. and were potentially offered money cars whatever they were men not of rich background they were actually quite poor all black men all of muslim descent and the prosecutors even acknowledge this was a fake plot but if it was real it would have been the worst case scenario now i can imagine this probably was hard for the family the friends and supporters of these four men what was their reaction like to. yeah and i do want to mention that so many people turned out at the sentencing today that not enough there was enough room in the courtroom they had to open up another court room with with the t.v.
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so everybody could screen it the reaction was sad but to be quite honest from those i spoke with they expected it they expected that the judge is going to hand down a twenty five year sentence the family of one of the defendants david williams who we heard is on to speak in the packages just played out were quite upset the mother walked out a photographer to try to take pictures of urge she said get get the camera out of my face when he would stop she sort of lunged at him morning but lunged at him and most of the people i spoke with believe that there is no due process in this country they they question whether there is fair justice because they say that without this plot that was orchestrated by a government paid informant that was supported by the f.b.i. these men would have never been in that courtroom they would have never even thought about committing any acts of terror but these are men that were desperate and they agreed to do so and now here's the consequence is definitely cases.

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