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think. one of the well. we have a global nuclear safety get ready for freedom. are it's time for show and tell on tonight's program now last time i wanted your opinion on congress cutting social security and medicare benefits and we asked if congress ever did make those cuts when americans finally take to the streets on protests just like we saw in the u.k. over austerity measures last week let's go to producer patrice in

a sense you to find out what you have to say the people in america while they haven't been known for their spontaneous protest the government officials if and when they do occur they're usually long planned heavily publicized a major media event so what would happen if the u.s. decides to cut social security. so people take to the streets are not over take a look at a probable reaction from an older americans yes so that can happen while cutting pensions in the u.k. resulted in major unifying protests the full extent of any protests in the u.s. alone and they only amount to this. ok well not mostly from the u.k. said americans are grain war and they carry about american idol and about serious issues still not dave had a similar opinion take to the streets he said and missy you think you could dance tell me both contrary to what you very said there are some of you out there who do care and he said i think they would take

a look at what happened in wisconsin dells said once americans wake up to what the government is doing with our tax dollars so people in this country will get off their lazy asses and start riding fast guerrilla fighter only hit it right on the head social security and medicare in the us impact the elderly not the same demographic effected in the u.k. and unlike the u.k. here in the us these issues don't impact young people so if there's going to be any protests it will be up to the polls or people in this country to start a movement now they probably won't take to the streets but they are the ones who usually come out to vote so maybe that's what congress should start worrying about . thanks for giving us your input and here's our next question for you earlier we shed light on a u.n. report that shows the violence in afghanistan has soared in the last year something that directly contradicted what some u.s. military officials have said so who's telling the truth let us know what you think do you believe the u.n. or u.s.

military officials when it comes to measuring violence and death in afghanistan you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and knows your response just might make it on air. now we make a consistent effort to call out police departments across the country who are out of line overly aggressive and abusive but they would like to tell you about a police department who seems to be condoning it misconduct amongst their own if the los angeles police department the new article from the l.a. times highlights a fairly new procedure where any cop who acts out of line is not just going to receive a conditional official reprimand rather than the traditional suspension without pay punishment but why is this a big deal well how because this reprimand is nothing but a warning as just a verbal no between the officer and his supervisor the more serious repercussions would be coming in the future if it happens again now with even more shocking is the fact that this is happening at the l.a.p.d. which let's face it has a less than perfect track record when it comes to law abiding cops in fact and

a partner report shows that between the years q two thousand and eight two thousand and ten twenty two officers and civilian employees engaged in drunk driving six employees engaged in domestic disputes to use on authorize force and four have been caught with false imprisonment and something tells me that probably a lot higher than that and all of those instances the employees got a near conditional official reprimand meaning no real punishment so as you can imagine the civilian panel who oversees the l.a.p.d. is bridge over this because they have common sense because they recognize the fact that a conditional reprimand is not is the same as an actual punishment now in the past of an officer con trouble he or she would be suspended without pay and that's supposed to give the officers some time to think hard about what they did wrong to prevent it from happening again meanwhile just think of this and the child misbehaves gets caught and gets a record and will he be likely to repeat his mistake most likely and forgive me for making a comparison to a child but i don't for a police officer is going to be deterred from committing the same act it's all he

gets is a little reprimand or a little slap on the wrist and if i poke at these numbers in two thousand and eight fourteen. conditional reprimands were given meanwhile one hundred nine were given in two thousand and ten so gone are the days work off lead by example here come more incidents where law enforcement will rightfully believe if they're above the law when they do something wrong and there will be no consequences when that happens how could you imagine what would happen if his message was that that was in place when the l.a.p.d. broke loose on rodney king do you remember back in one thousand nine hundred one when cobbs beat king mercilessly and then three of the four obvious errors were acquitted in court that's the most famous example but it's still just scratching the surface there are so many more incidents that have happened without any police being held responsible we report them to you all the time so i think the safe to say that a business of it probably isn't going to work and the evidence will be in the next group of statistics that will come out with even more of these reprimands being issued l.a.p.d. employees and more police just getting away with things like excessive force and

false imprisonment ain't that great. well here we are just weeks away from the august second deadline to raise the debt ceiling before a default that economists across the board and treasury secretary tim geithner predicted would be of catastrophic proportions and congress still got nowhere and the president had to even step in again and he made a speech today reminding them but they actually do have a job to do. i've heard the reports that there may be some in congress who want to do just enough to make sure that america avoids defaulting on our debt in the short term but then wants to kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit i don't share that view i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems that's in fact what drives them nuts about washington. that's right that's what drives people nuts

about washington but so is it that congress really hasn't gotten anywhere or is it just that republicans don't want to get there the democrats in the white house have conceded they're willing to make four trillion dollars in cuts in the next twelve years to reduce the deficit they're willing to cut tens of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid and all they ask for just a tiny little bit of compromise in return from republicans but they've put their foot down on the issue of raising taxes which for the most part of this point means not ending any subsidies and david brooks called as the mother of no brainers but for some reason they're not willing to play so this when you really have to ask what the hell is wrong with the republican party joining me to discuss this is james boulos host of the bottom line and reform school on p.j. t.v. james thanks so much for joining us tonight i got to. go you answer my question what is what is wrong with the republicans i just don't understand what is going on with them why don't they want to compromise or do anything or work why do they just

dig their heels in the sand it just doesn't make sense to me. because they're winning because they're negotiating strategy is it is actually it's actually what you're getting what they want they think they can get more until they feel like they want to be sure turns they're not there yet but isn't their entire job i mean is it really a winning and losing situation if you're a congress if you're lawmakers are supposed to do what's best for the country and every now and then that means a little bit compromise is supposed to be involved it's not just one side take thought on the other loses. well it's not a stadia and in some sense it actually works i think that you know both sides excludes fire right now and they know it and this is folks hardball politics is all about we all hope that it's going to come to the finish line before we go if here and before we thought i think it would be a good deal but until then you know we're going to see a little bit more hardball i think that we're nearing an agreement i think that republicans are soon going to be presented with if you will but it's nothing you can probably take what's going to be good enough and what more do they need at this

point right the white house already said that they'll cut billions of dollars like i said for medicare and for medicaid they're willing to take four trillion dollars out of the deficit over the next twelve years and are touching those sacred cows that americans really don't want gone to band of the day they really don't want to touch what more can they possibly get. well americans might not welcome you gone they certainly want to chat with an old problem and you can see the democrats like truly urban like chuck schumer saying yes we're more than willing to tackle medicare medicaid you can see these programs as they are want to change and i think that's in the nice true american congress people's poll you know what you're right democrats have made some serious concessions big concessions republicans which is the only national serious republicans control congress. to push here is what's to be done about subsidies and there are some republicans who are saying ok he says he's there they function like tax cuts so you should treat it like taxes taken away sort of you say i don't really buy that argument i think that if republicans want

a deal it's even better than the deal it's coming together right now if they can get it to happen with a hardball piece take seriously the subsidies and say themselves what's more conservative what's more one is constitutional principles propping up the huge subsidies that traps us in a way of government that makes huge amounts of spending grown very sexy or this other group face these things can becomes oh i wish the everybody could look to those basic republican principles the way that you can and you know perhaps realize that that's supposed to be what they have i'd buy that that isn't hypocritical but i think of course when are so much money involved from all these industries when it comes to lobbying that nobody wants to get rid of sounds that is everyone's can scare you of course take on you know things like they got oil out there is that what happens. well money makes a difference of course you get the oil companies out there but we're talking about here is for over ten percent republicans are actually trying to be comfortable throwing this time around just to be called uncivil ron paul and terry is on what used to be the french the french anymore it's

a good thing doesn't mean our politics is usually more radical that says it will start to wake up anyway and wish for protists interest entrenched porpoising on both sides but flagrantly on the side of their castle rock bottom and it is ration that claimed going in that it would be something other than what it is just really an opt for please don't we're starting to see a moment where if you look at for patients looking at because they're getting and saying wait a minute maybe we should turn back now i want to explore this point the tea party is starting to get to criticize people is trying to tape it oh this is an abnormal party these crazy tea partiers these out of control rubes that's not what's driving these disparate trees the so testings norquist it's wall street thomas it's people in republican party is this friend you can don't want to lose. this is not a tea party thing ok but business tell me that if you meant you know we brought up the david brooks piece again is that still me out there republican party is a normal party anymore when it's people like irving are question when it's all free that they can use their every move. well you know i'm going to think they're taking

this every move i think it works the company of a powerful constituency and over a period of decades now that wing of the republican party is munition one to do some things we should actually been very good not just in the party but i think for republican voters good for the country as a whole but you know it comes to a point where you reach this turning point getting out prices begin to take a fresh look at the fundamental infrastructure of this country our whole economy still and the same old answers don't really court as well as that you see now i also want to go back to another point in a brooks made where he said that the republican party if they do allow us to deep has no moral decency because you know you say in good faith when you borrow money from somebody they're going to return your dad and so what happens you know if we actually allow the government of the people on it's that are they putting the entire you know honor of the nation at stake here. well i don't know about emissions on it but look if you want to start throwing around at the stations

morally just indecency you're playing perhaps even more dangerous then then did race ship here that we're seeing with the debt deal these democrats are perfectly ok as well because if not more so the accusation that hey you're just thinking if you don't tighten it you don't you think you want to figure you know where these things are going every time someone tries to be serious take a second look at something else as these programs you plug the last party the race card you plug openable are suffering more someone is suffering if that's ever been increased by some you know suffering whatever that may well there's a lot of stuff going on around to be honest here but now the white house is saying that they're willing to kind time with i want to play one clip very quickly from rand paul take a look. talking about extraneous issues we've had not one minute of debate about the debt ceiling in any committee we haven't had a budget in two years we haven't had an appropriations bill in two years so i'm part of the freshman group in the senate saying no more we're not going to let him go to any issue if we have

a say in it so next week we will filibuster and till we talk about the debt ceiling until. now what do you say to that idea how about just doing your job not taking it down to the wire and playing politics and he's saying i'm going to filibuster anything else get this damn debt. ok well a couple things first of all filibustering is part of the senator's job when i go back to work said about yes you know probably is willing to make these sort of concessions democrats are willing to do this i think that's great and i think they should be commended for it of course you know in politics you get the rhetoric your days that looks like a republican state for people who want americans to suffer and then when you're behind closed doors negotiations you get a different story so that's that part of the equation but you know you're right about rand paul i don't mind filibustering i don't mind sticking to transpose it just so happens that in the case of rand paul cared men it is not great principle he just said it before i'll say to get it. and then it is like treating you know so-called sex addiction by hacking off your penis it's unnecessary and the disease

is not real there's a better way if you don't it hardware this constitution if reagan had this hard word in the constitution you know been up without a title if you get a way to do it i'm totally willing to let rand paul or any senator and senate filibuster and it didn't matter stephen but he's wrong and rob is a matter to him but thank you so much for leaving us with that beautiful image in our minds and thanks so much and it's. i thought to come tonight we give our tool time award to a political news organization first and then the floppy write it and figure out for happy hour first how boys accused of being a missing girl found out a fox news gets hacked over the weekend after spin off the. internet only when there were three mechanisms to do the work up to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i paid taxes. i would characterize obama

as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then you live something else here see some other part of it and realize that everything is all you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. say. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here. i think iraq even funny well.

whatever government says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you give them your freedom. for.

hard time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to politico that's right a d.c. based news outlet is a must read for policy wonks inside the beltway they break a lot of stories and over the weekend they post a report about two thousand and twelve presidential candidate herman cain season having a few problems with the staff in iowa and in the reporting politico wrote in a very odd line it read the move which shakes the campaign of the tea party favorite into turmoil in a state where he's staking much of his two thousand and twelve hopes comes after weeks of swirling rumors between cain's staff and volunteers in the hawkeye state accusing each other of affairs homosexuality and professional misconduct now as a writer over it's a lawn asked what is being gate allocating to professional misconduct something that a person is accused of and the herman cain campaign a step in the report by politico was based on rumors and once a lot ask the campaign if it's considered acceptable in a cain campaign for any staffers to be gay a spokesperson responded it is illegal to discriminate smart move by the campaign

spokesperson or right you never want to appear the guy running for president is a homophobe but wait we already know that game really is because of previous statements he's made. i believe homosexuality is a sin because of a bible believing christian i believe this isn't ok but i know that some people make that choice best bad choice so if you believe it's all those are cain's back the political article why would the writers compare homosexuality to affairs and professional misconduct why would political accusing someone of being gay that's not really an insult that's a bad reporting you know maybe the writers were in a hurry after all was a holiday weekend i'm sure that they were pretty bitter for having to work all the rest of the us was enjoying food drinks and fireworks but come on that that's just perpetuating this discrimination in this country towards gays and that's why political is tonight still time.

ok time for happy hour after a long evening and joining me is a long weekend and joining me this evening is argue for these are jenny churchill and jade brewer founder of realist idealist labs still thinking about the weekend. time eleven defendants day. thanks for joining us tonight so let me tell you about a story about news of the world which is a tabloid news paper in the u.k. which is actually owned by rupert murdoch and news corp and they are now being accused of hacking a girl's phone who actually was take a look at this. this is just a means that they were listening in through the messages of a million friends who were trying to find out where she rolls they even apparently deleted some of those messages to make more room on the cell phone mailbox. i'm sorry the girl was murdered and now you want to say that this is just so messed up

i can't believe they're doing this but they have actually admitted to illegally hacking the cell phones of twenty four celebrities in the past to even have somebody from the u.k. press association. was arrested in terms of this it makes you think of this is more of a widespread practice and is that what they're doing to like is that what they're doing to stay afloat because people want the headlines that are starting to hack into people's phones to get the juicy gossip and supportable as i think it is that they're hacking into celebrities funds i think that it takes it to a whole new level that they're hacking into people who are missing i mean this court they were still leading voice mails so that there would make room for her family or friends to leave more voice mails and her family took that as a sign that she was alive and in fact she was dead i mean i think it's awful actually they're now having to notify other families that their loved ones who are dead phones may have been hacked that's what i think it's sick but that's because people are so obsessed with these types of stories with the casey anthony trials of the world that we've been showing and so is that what they do like to consumption i

am not making excuses oh i actually i want to go and i'm actually to blame partially. in our consumption of these things a steve jobs is about right he says if you want to. blame media sense you're going to people consume media because they continue to give it to him and honestly i think we're going to continue destructions voices that we continue to you know i think that that's taking the easy way out to say that this is what we want so we give it to them so lot of people want to watch and see and i mean obviously we would be like well we'll have to make it happen so viewers you know just give it to the. family now these are what news organizations to do to to stay afloat and it is it's sickening and it's deplorable i'm just wondering how long it takes until somebody hears starts trying to do the exact same thing it's becoming so widespread they're like your eyes that you. are so for a. move on to another story we've obviously talked a lot about the hackers and everything and over the weekend fox news got hacked and somebody tweeted from their account a number of tweets basically saying that barack obama was assassinated we also know

that obama's campaign web site hacked and the secret service is now investigating the hack on fox news which is really funny to me because normally you'd never see the secret service and fox news. this is the working together but just because they want to get a half or so bad this is an excuse because they mention the president now they get to launch like a full investigation i have to say i'm a little confused about the hack to obama's presidential site because it appears that it possibly wasn't a hack at all that those calendars are used they're generated and they're now saying that the website was not compromised the names are leading the event they're going to organize like this one well i think it's weird that i think he. has been his trainer was he hangs with the calendar on obama's campaign web site will be user generated that's what well i think that's actually speaks to some of their tactics in terms of power and what i think the stories are actually even more important for another another reason that's there's a small constituency of people in this country who know how to talk to machines and they are more powerful than almost anybody else and they are the developers in the

coders and the people behind all these computers and more and more they want to start talking of them because they are clearly taking over the world yet and i'm i'm a little disturbed because now we've got this new group that supposedly hacked fact hacked fox's twitter is the script kiddies there in the groups and i'm going back which used to be a little second everything is just getting so confusing and i think we just need one hacker group that we can focus on are all just going to get told i mean we can't cover it we're clearly i'm reminded that her story is one of them to the whole point though they're all loosely organized and there is not one giant hacker world out there but this story i just kind of you know obviously everybody's on twitter we tweet a lot out there but guess who is now going to get twitter account it's the vice president he's going to be tweeting at v.p. and it got us thinking what could possibly go wrong and think of what he said in the past. i would kill members of more family and i have i wouldn't go anywhere in confined places now why

would not do at this point if i had another way of transportation she just to me ride the subway. i just wonder who allowed it joe biden you know a group. right. i wish they had literally instead of. there's literally not a single person sort of a hashtag today that literally that happens that would be a big shout out of you to all kind of little announcements you know. just on a whim and suddenly that's going to start panic you're going to tell people never to go on boats never go on trains are not to go on twenty you know where my first thought was obviously they're not just going to let him do this someone has to regulate that and then i thought oh god that's right president and i just thought he can't handle his own twitter that's really frightening thing and he's a p.r. mess i'm sure he's going to have somebody that's tweeting for him anyway well if you can i have heard he's a pyramis though because i think that people do it's in beer and he's it he's a p.r. embarrassment man that you know a lot of money going to go and there's

a lasso i'm going to wait for jungle book. this is kind of fun we have to get it really quick a woman went to go visit her husband for a conjugal visit in jail and then she got sick trying to sneak a map and what kind of stuff is going on where you're trying to have a conjugal visit in that little are you why do you need a suitcase when you go in for a conjugal visit when you come out next toys are you wearing it that's when she when she came out when she came out they were suspicious because the bag was obviously stuffed and she said it's dirty underwear. it was ok so let's drive on i don't know. what are you guys thanks for joining me tonight sorry merica. things are going to get make you come back tomorrow and it makes more sense horo from talking points memo going to be joining us for happy hour now the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other night we acknowledge you tube dot com slash the

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