tv [untitled] July 5, 2011 10:00pm-10:30pm EDT
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this video on demand i'll tease mine the old comes and says feeds now in the palm of your. question. welcome to the lower show i hope for real headlines with none of them are soon going to live in washington d.c. now and i will talk about a u.n. report on the war in afghanistan that directly contradicts military officials are telling us lawmakers so who should we believe then we'll show you a blatant example of hypocrisy by the white house in the double standard that they have when it comes to leaking classified information and debt ceiling madness time is running out and republicans that won't budge so can somebody believe tell us what is wrong with these people we have all of that and more for you tonight
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including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has missed. this is that the end for the casey anthony trial my friends today a verdict was reached and it was read out loud. own. dog dropping moment they sought the death penalty against this woman and she got convicted of four misdemeanors this is a historic rejection of the prosecution's case the attorney who was once dubbed as somewhat hapless in this process now looks like a genius for basically that's right the case is over benito done so and all the rest of us are going to be letting out size of relief that we no longer have to endure the nonstop coverage the media's in a bit of a frenzy nancy grace's head i'm sure has exploded by now but you see the thing is
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that even before this verdict was read today they spent hours going every over every little detail about the jury about their deliberation process things that quite frankly nobody gives a crap about it was all an effort just to make sure that they still breathlessly covered the story well they could. well after six hours yesterday the jury is back at work this morning at the casey anthony murder trial put a stopwatch on it it was eight forty four and see two of the deliberations so you have twelve jurors seven women far from there and two of the women are african-american the others are white the jurors will break for lunch we are told swear in her prison blues patients to get into the courthouse when she goes upstairs for the attorneys have several pieces of clothing selected for her we've seen this throughout the trial really do you really need to spend a top eight minutes of a news show and i mean it was the talk of the show talking about how many shirts casey anthony gets to choose from when she goes into the courtroom how many of the
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jurors are women how many of them are black and i wish they would do the same thing when it's a case where racism is actually a problem just like the states in the south or texas you'll see it plain and simple in many examples but in the casey anthony trial come on people this is hardly an example of discrimination if anything every single other story out there has been discriminated against by having not been paid attention to because it was a pretty white girl who may or may not have killed her daughter stories like and yes i know that i keep pointing this out it might seem tedious and repetitive but stories like the war in afghanistan the last week we showed you how the mainstream media just completely blatantly ignore general david petraeus being on the hill and testify to take over as director of the cia he also blatantly ignored we tried it general john allen who's taking over petraeus is all job testifying on the hill and listen i know these men don't have the looks of casey anthony but come on people they're only going to be heading our longest war and our intelligence agency anyway
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if we take one more look at some of the military statistics that come out you can see exactly what petraeus is leaving behind for starters is the whole hearts and minds counterinsurgency strategy now we're just getting back to bombing people from the sky you see since petraeus rickover. in afghanistan coalition warplanes fired weapons and dropped bombs by a thousand eight hundred and thirty one times at the sixty five percent increase in the twelve months prior to that. even wonder want to know how much those five thousand eight hundred thirty one bombs and weapons cost not to mention of course the lives that may have been lost so billion lives and here's another tidbit the mainstream television media isn't reporting out of that has any lawyers now suing the cia for its drone strikes in pakistan that have led to civilian deaths don't forget because when you strike something with lethal force there are consequences and although this particular lawyer. has been to the us and many times before the state department has just prevented him from traveling here for
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a conference on human rights it is not nice and fair and democratic of them it's hypocrisy in the mainstream media just turns a blind eye so that's what they miss. so while the mainstream media is ignoring the ramping up of our air campaign in afghanistan they've also missed another big support the quite frankly makes our military commanders out to be big fat liars last week the un released a quarterly report on the war in afghanistan of the statistics were not pretty violence is up fifty one percent since this time last year so were civilian casualties compared to the spring of two thousand and ten there of twenty percent the number of afghans who've been displaced is up four percent they can remember now more than four hundred and thirty five thousand people so i would take those numbers how many how do we compare that to which honor general john allen who stated to take over the war command as commander what he said last tuesday in front
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of a senate panel he said that violence is five percent lower so far this year in comparison to last year so that's exactly the opposite of what the u.n. report has found so is the u.s. military lying in watching the numbers and when will congress or the white house finally notice joins me to discuss that is jack rice former cia officer and criminal defense attorney jack thanks so much always a pleasure to have you on the show. i question so whose word are you going to take here that we believe her tray is and john allen or do we believe the u.n. . well let's face it the u.n. is trying to use very very hard numbers and what we're seeing from the white house what we're seeing from the pentagon is something else entirely and they're trying to make an argument right now regarding where they are going because you know what you can take a look back and see what it is they were arguing in the past the whole concept of dealing with a counterinsurgency was working people on the ground so they could try to address the problems of the people or they decided they don't want to do that anymore in
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fact as you just described correctly what you're seeing now is death from the sky just like we did before except for the numbers are increasing dramatically but well the biggest problem that comes out of that is civilian casualties more death of innocents and which will do one thing it will drive the public was away from the united states which is one of our biggest problems in the first place well you know one of the interesting things about this if you look at this u.n. report specifically is that. this is the part of course of the u.s. military likes to beef up and they like to publicize is that the amount of civilian casualties that have been caused directly at least as far as they now by the u.s. or by coalition forces is down compare the amount of civilian deaths that we seen from insurgents but it does not kind of do the i don't know make the entire point moot because aren't we there to protect civilians supposedly from insurgents. of course we are that's our problem it simply isn't consistent it's the equivalent you
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know even if you think locally you know you anywhere in the united states we saw you do is we're going to cut taxes but we're going to raise fees it's all of name game it's all a shell game where you continue to move things around to clean up and say where's the p is that under this plan or is it under that one in this case it doesn't really matter if at the end of the day we are losing if at the end of the day what we're finding is that there are more civilians who are dying and more people in the streets of kabul and kandahar and herat mills where who decided that the americans are the bad guys let's face it at the end of the day we are losing fundamentally that is our biggest problem regardless of the numbers of people we have on the ground we're guardians of the number of people we regard as the number of sorties are going to be a predator drones or anything else and you think i mean is this also just specific to this u.s. occupation of afghanistan if you go back to the soviet times we didn't see so many suicide attacks we didn't see so many bombs so why now. but i think there is a bit of a difference and i think part of the problem then if you can call it that what the
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soviets were dealing with in many ways of working americans are dealing with now that's that is true but what makes it different is that there's a perception in the streets that i mean these are people i've spoken with iraq and you know in a stadium and in cairo and in jordan and in the palestinian territories there is this perception in the americans are trying to why don't the entire region so long thing that happens in certain areas of the middle east will then work its way into other parts and we never saw the east or suicide attacks in afghanistan previously i mean this is a new phenomenon but it's one that has been essentially acquired from what we have seen in places like iraq because it works you know what it really does is it drives the populous away from the americans because a perception that the americans are failing is highlighted by every successful attack and i guess you know the end of the day of course for our civilians in afghanistan it doesn't matter who is doing the killing as long as people are losing
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their lives they're still living through the middle of this conflict i'm just curious though so we have the u.n. does a comprehensive report here the military i don't know if they call it comprehensive but they put on their own statistics do you think that there need to be other organizations that really are a report card for the war that really measures some of these numbers or is the u.n. a good tool well i think the u.n. is actually useful but i think what's happened is frequently it becomes sort of. yatta of those on the right if i don't want to make this a look through a question but i think the more independent numbers you can thawing the better frequently what we have seen from the d.o.t. is that the deal he's trying to give you a specific number they're trying to spin this story too and so what you're looking for is a more objective truth it is a very very hard thing to fight anywhere in the world and when you're dealing with one of multiple wars going on to find truly objective facts can be very complicated . very very rare indeed so let's talk about you know you and i have of course
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spoken about the president and the plan for withdrawing the surge at least by summer of two thousand and twelve i guess if we look at these numbers that show the violence has only increased while the surge has been there does that mean that they have failed of course they fail i mean let's be honest what we're doing now is we're doing exactly what we were doing before or do we just we're increasing the numbers of attacks as we have previously and in fact we're going to dramatically compared to where we were before and if you look at the numbers of attacks again and he said this better as well or better than anybody else it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter who is your friend or your parents if you're burying them you're going to look around for where the bomb came from and if the americans are so no don't know we're here to help how do you think you're going to blame yes we or. do you think that placing more special operations teams and this is tell me if i'm wrong here but i'm assuming that the surgery is now we're going to have more special ops teams that start to at least go in while they might get rid of some of
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the other troops is that going to be a better strategy at all. well regarding the special ops units there is no question about that in fact one of the things you're going to see when it comes to thought in the numbers from the d o d is this is we're going to be doing is they're taking out all those troops that they can't and what they're going to they're going to do is keep all of the combat troops and special actually it's on the ground as possible so you can keep more people in streets more people in the field but it would also does is it actually makes those who are there are even more vulnerable a problem again goes back to the numbers of deaths that we're seeing in the sense of what will happen is that doesn't fix our problem you can put a special option of on the ground if you still kill civilians what you now have is a blood feud where the entire extended family will turn and say let me get this right but american killed my cousin or guess what now if i wasn't in the war i am and that's why you continue to lose so how come we don't hear from the white house or from congress about the fact that the pentagon decided to fight its numbers and
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even today we see three u.s. plan there is that have an op ed in the new york times saying the troops should get out all of them should get out in two thousand and twelve but they never mention any of the number finding they never point any fingers are they scared about iran of course they are everybody is afraid to be seen especially the left the left as petrified to be seen as weak on terrorism weak on international security and certainly never want to be seen as anything anti deal do your even questioning d.o.t. they want to be on the same side but you know i guess the other way of looking at this is there are far too busy fighting about the budget right now or maybe they're obviously read watching what happens to casey anthony and i can is that that better myself and we will get into the ridiculousness of this budget fight later on in this have but for now thank you so much jack my pleasure. now speaking of the military there's no but u.s. has a top secret military base in the u.k. it's called menwith hill and since the one nine hundred fifty s.
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has been a crucial element in surveillance and intelligence gathering however like many u.s. military projects this base is quite expensive it cost ten billion dollars to be exact and its presence doesn't sit well with the locals lore and it has more. here it's a little piece of america in the heart of the ukase you actually dales where it's britons who are demanding. from america this place symbolizes what's wrong with the special relationship between britain and states here we have a base that's on u.s. control which the british government and british people have. menwith hill is the largest intel gathering and surveillance base outside the us there are thirty two satellite dishes housed inside the huge golf ball structures which can eavesdrop on telephone calls faxes and e-mails from around the world it's been operational since the one nine hundred sixty s.
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but now it's set to become part of the controversial missile defense shield to alert the u.s. to any launch a ballistic missiles as in poland and the czech republic where the u.s. also plans to site bases worrying that having a facility here would put the area in danger heightening the risk of an attack by anyone who wants to disable the shield but unlike in eastern europe the government here has put up no fight at all in fact it doesn't even know what goes on here there isn't a single british official in parliament or in the intelligence services who could give you a full picture of what is happening in this case it's the culmination of former us president ronald reagan's dream as his statue is unveiled in london on monday menwith hill in bodies will rake it in busiest in the early warning missile detection system that was dubbed the star wars program it's secretive based far away from u.s. soil and some say it's a step towards the u.s.
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team a nation and militarization of space people demonstrate here campaigning for the closure of this space and the others like is around the country they want to reclaim this land and bring it back under the control of the british government and its people it's not working though. menwith hill becomes pulse of the missile defense shield it's building another coastal satellite start separating the total to thirty three despite local and international opposition growing notes reducing the u.s. influence in europe. menwith hill. just ahead of wiki leaks goes after two credit card companies in court have won not only overturn and then the double standard from the white house they've aggressively target leakers unless that leak comes from inside six hundred pennsylvania avenue or that just. internal mirror mechanisms do the work to bring justice or accountability.
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i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so bleak you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else hears you some other part of it and realize that everything. you don't. charge is a big issue. let's not forget that we in the far right.
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well looks like wiki leaks has finally gathered a legal crew to take on credit card companies visa master card just last week we showed you how joyous songs poked fun at master card by spoofing one of its very old commercials people servers knew you could do this and. donations lost to the banking book a fifteen million dollars that it cost to the whole sort of. five hundred thousand dollars. watching the world. series so. priceless. there's all the jokes are now over now wiki leaks is getting serious because you probably remember when the whistle blowing organization first released its massive stash of diplomatic cables from the us he's a master card suspended all methods of payment to waking leaks through their companies so the group set out a press release through its twitter page saying of those credit card companies have
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been engaging in a us to backed financial blockade and then they explain that they're suing visa and master card the press release states the company is a coordinated action on december seventh last year to block all credit card transactions to wiki leaks constituted a serious a violation. the competition rules of the e.u. furthermore that the actions of these companies have violated danish merchant laws when they terminated the payment services and refused to reinstate them and we should note of the danish law firm representing weekly weeks's attempted to explain their case to the companies themselves but according to several reports he's a master card having comply and a recent interview with seen as mastercard stood by their original reasoning stating that company rules prohibit customers from directly or indirectly engaging in or facilitating any action that's illegal meanwhile we he leads us continue to move forward with their suit i request for prosecution has already been filed with the e.u. commission now i for one want to give wiki leaks major kudos and all this they remembered
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a very crucial element in this saga that wiki leaks is an international organization and while they might have exposed some of america's most private information they still serve as a resource for the rest of the world and in that case there was a boy organization has gone to the e.u. to make sure that they can remain protected under international laws but it's not going to be enough to stop these a master card's protest of wiki leaks mission. i guess only time will tell. now we've often spoken about the double standard that's applied to leaking classified information and today we have one more glaring example pointed out by salon dot com glenn greenwald and it was big news in the new york times reported that pakistan's intelligence agency the i.s.i. had ordered the killing of pakistani journalists. whose body was found weeks ago but how the new york times actually know this just because several senior administration officials speaking on the condition of anonymity of course told them so and in that same piece the new york times and knowledge of the disclosure of the
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information in itself could further aggravate the badly fractured relationship between pakistan and the u.s. it is far as we know it's no investigation has been launched no grand jury has been convened in virginia no one is sitting in solitary confinement for passing on this classified information so how do we apply this to the obama administration's war on whistleblowers do they only go after you if it's the secrets that make them look bad or discuss this with me is christopher chambers lecturer at georgetown university and author of the blog not turner's revenge chris thanks so much for joining us tonight but he say other blatant example of the double standard that if somebody within the administration knew this it would it level you're going to get in trouble for leaking anything i mean this is classic or be the rule here and it's been the rule probably for the last fifty sixty seventy years is the only person in the world believe. we're. it is a tool of policy it is
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a weapon anybody else is not allowed to use it i mean that's the point but so these are senior administration officials we of course don't really know who that applies to you but if it's a number of them if there are several of them does that mean that somebody had to condone it that somebody within the white house said it's ok to put this information that's that's how that works i mean because that's. controls you information whereas if it's an investigative journalist or. we can explore somewhere like bradley manning feeding wiki leaks that's a loose cannon stuff that's you know let justice be done though the heavens will fall stuff we don't want that we want to have control so there's stuff coming from the top the top could mean the state department so you are a combination of of all of those and how many times have we seen this right here and united and so i put out an entire book that was very you know to help calm as a war is an example of all the secret you know closed door meetings and yet packets to be sold on the shelves and in the cases. people like thomas drake there's a process and it happens all the time as you know even with the glaring example of
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vietnam were officials leak certain things against certain see self interviews officials who they thought were corrupt or were on the viet cong or north side and yet went after daniel ellsberg and people like that and the irony there is ellsberg and people like that were you know exposing the type of information that these guys or women you know that they are now were using as their kind of crafted weapon so i mean you know that's the difference from journalism and journalists doing it and it being a weapon of war a tool of policy let's just say well that's why why do you think it is that the obama administration would want to continually release more and more bad information when it comes to pakistan specifically the relationship has completely soured since the obama era excuse me since the salad bin laden raid and you know it even started before that so why now if this be an opportune moment to even say it. to water i mean well killing journalists in pakistan is like a spectator sport over there it's like football or the n.b.a.
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i mean the pakistan in and of itself georgetown we have a project and we looked at this inside and out it is a crazy situation over there is a very complex country and the relationship between our two countries has been a kin to you know codependent violent spouses you know i love you i hate you i love you i hate you sometimes in the same breath i mean literally power. on each other and the military is part of that in the military runs a guy aside the i.s.i. could not be trusted in the eyes of the administration to deal with or some of been largely you know and i we didn't know he was there and you have a population that hates the united states as well china has a much bigger you know public relations profile over there than we do and we give them billions of dollars so it's a very complex thing you know public enemy number one was in their country it's a it's a history of this stuff going back to the daniel pearl thing where you know the government basically put somebody you want nothing to do with killing him on trial
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and harmless you know so it's called threats and i can see why these ministries would want to do this but you have to do it and not be a critic about it and there we. go about this having you know if this is their attempt at being transparent you know these guys that as you look at it as well that will be going to a long and complicated relationship at bankstown who knows how that's going to be used against them at some point when it comes to continuing a war there as shadow war and it comes to continuing trounce rights but what role do you think of a new york times place in this right because they're in their own writing are saying the release of this information could really damage the already degraded you know the media and part and parcel of this this weird leak because as has tool policy i think is that the media is really just shrunk away until we had wiki leaks really took everything this is part of their heads going to basically say look mr president we're a team player we want to you know we'll pay lip service to mr schwartz who killed
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our fellow journalist been murdered but we also want to show that we're in your court you know that there were good you know we're good players you know we're not going to leak too much we saw what happened to bradley manning we saw what happened to julian assange and so you know they're trying to basically spur growth but it's going to look a little hypocritical right because at first here i was critiquing what we're doing . but then they turned against him and now they like to leak information and this is me and so because they want to they want to be a tool in the tool basically of helping the administration helping you to use leaks as a policy tool versus you know having them break news which is what they should be doing and they aren't what you know what do you think about the part of of course i mean i've spoken out many times the fact that newspapers in this country are dying out let's face it they can't have the same gigantic bureaus anymore they can have the same investigative right. that's the easy way out if you have friends in high places who needs your investigative owners are the stories that actually get you
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the headlines that people read by basically i mean because they're probably looking i mean this is it's there are some parallels sold here to the pro case they're looking at how the wall street journal really had a hard time navigating that whole murder investigation dealing with the pakistanis the former military regime or your ex general who was president and the united states government having to deal with this you know they just see on the ground they can use whatever resources are there with the pakistanis they can basically take with him instructions giving them the look like good guys because we're helping to solve some of bin laden thing these people knew he was there certain people the i.s.i. have to be punished and we're going to help the administration do it because you know we want to we want to stay on their good side so he has one of those things where of course they want to stay on the good side but also maybe they're forced to these did not force they thought on some part as a hero to me i think that's the only way to keep themselves. in the game exactly while now the case of war on one leaker is certainly is more of the. lighthouse
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chris thinks i should bring us tonight. all still ahead tonight we have our tuesday edition of shell intel and congress the back to the question can they agree on a deal to raise the debt ceiling or is the u.s. on a collision course for another economic collapse back east. internal mirror military mechanisms do not work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government's doing and want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism.
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