you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for late sleep you think you understand it and then he lives something else here's you some other part of it and realize that everything is ok you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. let's not forget that we've had enough hard hard work. i think the beautiful and funny well. we never got the look says here very conclusively get ready for the freedom.

for. for. our it's time for show and tell on tonight's program now last time i wanted your opinion on congress cutting social security and medicare benefits and we asked if congress ever did make those cuts when americans finally take on the streets.

protests just like we saw in the u.k. over austerity measures last week let's go to producer patrice in a sense you could find out what you had to say. people in america well they haven't been known for their spontaneous protest of government decisions but if and when they do occur they're usually long planned heavily publicized major media events and what will happen in the us decides to cut social security and medicare so people take to the streets or not only take a look at a probable reaction from an older american yes that can happen and while cutting pensions in the u.k. resulted in major unifying protests the full extent of any protests in the us alone and they only amount to that. ok well matt mosley from the u.k. said americans are queue brain warped into carrying about american idol and about serious issues the right dave had a similar opinion take to the streets he said i miss it you think you can dance well now both contrary to what you very said there are some of you out there who do

care and he said i think they would take a look at what happened in wisconsin dells said once americans wake up to what the government is doing with our tax dollars and people in this country will get all their lazy asses and start riding fast guerrilla fighter will hit it right on the head social security and medicare in the us impact the elderly not the same demographic affected in the us. unlike the u.k. here in the us these issues don't impact young people so if there's going to be any protests it will be up to the polder people in this country to start a movement now they probably won't take to the streets but they are the ones who usually come out to vote so maybe that's all congress should start worrying about. our will thanks for giving us your input and here's our next question for you earlier we shed light on a u.n. report that shows the violence in afghanistan is sort of in the last year something that directly contradicted what some u.s. military officials have said so who's telling the truth let us know what you think

do you believe the u.n. or u.s. military officials when it comes to measuring violence and death in afghanistan you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and you know the response just might make it on a. now we make a consistent effort to call out police departments across the country who are out of line overly aggressive and abusive but today we'd like to tell you about a police department who seems to be condoning it misconduct amongst their own it's a los angeles police department so you new article from the l.a. times highlights a fairly new procedure for any thought who acts out of line is not just going to receive a conditional official reprimand rather than the traditional suspension without pay punishment why is this a big deal well how because this reprimand is nothing but a warning and just a verbal note between the officer and his supervisor the more serious repercussions would be coming in the future if it happens again now with even more shocking is the fact that this is happening at the l.a.p.d.

which let's face it has a less than perfect a track record when it comes to law abiding cops in fact partner report shows that between the years two thousand and eight and two thousand and ten twenty two officers and civilian employees engaged in drunk driving six employees engaged in domestic disputes to use on authorize force and four have been caught with false imprisonment and something tells me that probably a lot higher than that and in all of those instances the employee's got a mere conditional official reprimand meaning no real punishment so as you can imagine the civilian panel who oversees the l.a.p.d. is outraged over this because they have common sense because they recognize the fact that a conditional reprimand is not is the same as an actual punishment now in the past of an officer khan trouble he or she would be suspended without pay and that's supposed to give the officers some time to think hard about what they did wrong to prevent it from happening again meanwhile just think of this and that child misbehaves gets caught and gets a reprimand will he be likely to repeat his mistake most likely and forgive me for

making a comparison to a child but i don't for a police officer is going to be deterred from committing the same act if he gets a little reprimand or a little slap on the wrist and i look at these numbers and two thousand and eight fourteen. conditional reprimands were given meanwhile one hundred nine were given in two thousand and ten so gone are the days work off lead by example here come more incidents where law enforcement will rightfully believe they're above the law when they do something wrong and there will be no consequences when that happens now could you imagine what would happen if this mess of a right that was in place when the l.a.p.d. broke loose on rodney king do you remember back in one thousand nine hundred one when cops beat king mercilessly and then three of the four officers were acquitted in court that's the most famous example but it's still just scratching the surface there are so many more incidents that have happened without any police being held responsible we report them to you all the time so i think the same to say that a business bit probably isn't going to work and the evidence will be in the next group of statistics that will come out with even more of these reprimands being

issued l.a.p.d. employees and more police just getting away with things like excessive force and false imprisonment ain't that great. well here we are just weeks away from the august second deadline to raise the debt ceiling before a default that economists across the board and treasury secretary tim geithner predicted would be of catastrophic proportions and congress still got nowhere and the president had to even step in again and he made a speech today reminding them that they actually do have a job to do. i totally ports that there may be some in congress who want to do just enough to make sure that america avoids defaulting on our debt in the short term but then wants to kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit i don't share that view i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems that's in fact what

drives them nuts about washington. that's right that's what drives people nuts about washington but so is it that congress really hasn't gotten anywhere or is it just that republicans don't want to get there the democrats in the white house have conceded they're willing to make four trillion dollars in cuts in the next twelve years to reduce the deficit they're willing to cut tens of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid and all they ask is for just a tiny little bit of compromise in return for republicans but they put their foot down on the issue of raising taxes which for the most part of this point means not ending any subsidies and david brooks called it the mother of no brainers for some reason they're not willing to play so this point you really have to work the hell is wrong with the republican party joining me to discuss this is james boulos host of the bottom line and reform school on p.j. t.v. thanks so much for joining us tonight i gotta say. you know you answer my question what is what is wrong with republicans i just don't understand what is going on

with them why don't they want to compromise or do anything or work why do they just dig their heels in the sand it just doesn't make sense to me. because they're winning because they're issues treasury is the top and it's actually it's actually what you're getting what they want they think they can get more as you're going to get this up until they feel like it if you wanted to be sure turns they're not there yet but isn't their entire job i mean is it really a winning and losing situation if you're a congress and you're lawmakers are supposed to do what's best for the country and every now and then that means a little bit compromise is supposed to be involved it's not just one side take thought on the other loses are. well it's a nice idea and sometimes it actually works i think that you know both sides are playing its fire right now and doing you know it and this is what hardball politics is all about we all hope that it's going to come to the finish line before we get off because if you're in before you thought i think it was deeply rooted it out be ideal but until then you know we're going to see a little bit more hardball i think that we're nearing a degree that i think that republicans are still going to be presented with

a deal but it is nothing it should probably take what's going to be good enough i mean what more do they need at this point right the white house already said that they'll cut billions of dollars like i said from medicare and from medicaid they're willing to take four trillion dollars out of the deficit over the next twelve years and are touching those sacred cows that americans really don't want done at the end of the day they really don't want to touch what more can they possibly get. well americans not long gone they certainly want to tap wilson's phone problem and you can see democrats like joe lieberman like chuck schumer saying yes we're more than willing to tackle medicare medicaid we can't see these programs as they are i want to say. i think it's in the mainstream american not just in congress it was a whole you know it right there passing made some serious concessions big concessions republicans which is the only natural considering the republicans controlled congress. it pushed here's what's going to be done about subsidies and there are some republicans who think. they function like tax cuts so you should treat it like taxes and taking away sort of. i don't really buy that argument i

think that if you publicans want a deal it's even better than the deal that it's coming together right now i think they can get the hard ball he's take seriously the subsidies and say themselves what's more conservative what's more money is constitutional principles propping up a huge trees regime subsidies the traps us you know where government huge amounts of spending ceci or the sitting room where we can step place these things can get things oh i wish the everybody could look to you know those they think republican principles the way that you can perhaps realize that that's supposed to be what they abide by that isn't hypocritical but i think of course on our side much money involved from all these industries when it comes to lobbying that nobody wants to get rid of something that runs can scare go of course take on you know things like they go all out there is that what happens. well the money makes a difference of course you've got the oil companies out there but we're talking about here is progress and in the recent republicans are actually trying to be comfortable throwing this time around to the problems of the ron paul and terry is

on on what used to be the french the french anymore that's a good thing to see in our politics is becoming more radical that says it will start to wake up and the way in which sort artists interest the interest forces on both sides but flagrantly on the side of democrats will rock bottom and administration that slate and going in it would be something other than what it is just for you opt for because now we're starting to see a long where people are looking at procreation is looking at the concepts he's digging and saying wait a minute maybe we should turn back now i want to explore at this point the tea party starting to get sick criticism people are starting to tell you that you mention the david brooks oh this is an abnormal party after these crazy tea partiers these out of control groups up that's not what's driving these territories so it's just it's norquist it's all street economists it's people in the republican party repeat business friendly to don't want to lose this purpose this is not a tea party view ok but does it still mean the if you meant you know we brought up the david brooks piece again is that still now the republican party is

a normal party anymore when it's people like over an article as and when it's wall street if they can if their every move. well you know i don't think they're dictating its every move i think that orcas and company have a powerful constituency and over a period of decades now that wing of the republican party has musician want to do some things we should actually been very good not just to the party but i think it's for republican voters you can do for the hundreds but you know it comes to point where you reach this turning point getting out prices gets to get fresh look at the fundamental infrastructure of this country our political economy still and you know the same old answers don't really work as well as they used to now i also want to go back to another point in a brooks made where he said to her about the compart if they do allow us to deep on the debt has no moral decency because you know you say in good faith when you borrow money from somebody they're going to return your dad and so what happens the you know if we actually allow the government to default on its debt are they putting the entire you know honor of the nation at stake here well i don't know

about the nation's honor but look if you want to start throwing around accusations moral and just indecency playing craps even more dangerous then then that race michigan or that we're seeing the debt deal here that these democrats are perfectly ok as you can republicans if not more so the accusation that hey you're just even if you don't you don't you think you want to figure you know where these things are going every time someone tries to pose serious cuts or take a second look at something else as these programs you pull up and so i ask hardy the race card you pull out hope people are suffering anymore someone is suffering if that's if he's been increased by some you know unit of suffering whatever that was i thought a lot of stuff going on around him to be honest here but now the white house is saying that they're willing to entitle and i want to play one clip very quickly from rand paul take a look. art of talking about extraneous issues we've had not one minute of debate about the debt ceiling in any committee we haven't had a budget in two years we haven't had an appropriations bill in two years so i'm

part of the freshman group in the senate saying no more we're not going to let him go to any issue if we have a say in it so next week we will filibuster and so we talk about the debt ceiling until. now what do you say to that idea how does doing your job not taking it down to the wire playing politics and he's saying i'm a filibuster anything else get this down that. ok well a couple things first of all filibustering is part of the senator's job i want to go back to what you said about yes you know barack obama is willing to make these sort of concessions democrats are willing to do this i think that's great and i think they should be commended for it of course you know in politics you think the top you get the rhetoric to your base that looks like republicans hate poor people they want americans to suffer and then when you behind closed doors negotiations you get a completely different story so that's not part of the nation but you know you're right about rand paul i don't mind filibustering i don't mind you sticking to transpose it just so happens that in the case of rand paul their name is not the right word for it just said it before i'll set it up has he opposed ocean bend it

is like treating you know so-called sex addiction by hacking off your penis it's unnecessary and the disease is not real there's a better way we don't know the hardware this is the constitution you can have this hard word in the constitution you know bend up a river without a title there's a good way to do it totally willing to let republican senator and senate filibuster and it didn't matter c.n.n. but he's wrong and obviously it matters to him but thank you so much for leaving us with that beautiful image in our minds thanks so much and it's. all right so to come tonight we give our school of fine award to a political news organization for some very sloppy writing and figure out for happy hour first talboys accused of hacking a missing girl found out of fox news gets hacked over the weekend after just a month. into it only when it was the mechanisms to do the work up to bring justice or accountability. i have every

right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then he glimpse something else you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is just you don't know i'm trying hard to look at the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right.

i think iraq needed one well. whatever government says they're keeping safe get ready because if you give them your freedom. for.

hard it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to politico that's why the d.c. based news outlet is a must read for policy logs inside the beltway they break a lot of stories and over the weekend they posted a report about two thousand and twelve presidential candidate herman cain season having a few problems with the staff in iowa and in the reporting politico wrote in a very odd line that read the move which shakes the campaign of the tea party favorite into turmoil in a state where he's staking much of his two thousand and twelve hopes comes after weeks of swirling rumors between cain's staff and volunteers in the hawkeye state accusing each other of affairs homosexuality and professional misconduct i was a writer over at salon asked what is being gay to allocate into professional misconduct something that a person is accused of now the herman cain campaign a sudden the report by politico was based on rumors and once a long asked the campaign of us considered acceptable in

a cain campaign for any staffers to be gay a spokesperson responded it is illegal to discriminate smart move by the campaign spokesperson or right you never want to appear the guy running for president is a homophobe but wait we already know that cain really is because of previous statements he's made. i believe homosexuality is a sin because of a bible believing christian i believe is a sin ok but i believe that some people make that show us the best bestial it's so if you believe it's all those are cain's views but back to the political article why would the writers compare homosexuality to affairs of professional misconduct why would political accusing someone of being gay that's not really an insult that's just bad reporting and maybe the writers are in a hurry after all was a holiday weekend i'm sure that they were pretty bitter for having to work all the rest of the us was enjoying food drinks and fireworks but c'mon guys that's just perpetuating this discrimination in this country towards gays and that's why politico is tonight's told time.

ok it's time for a happy hour after a long evening and joining me are a long weekend and joining me this evening is ours you producer jenny churchill and jade brewer founder of realist idealist labs still thinking about the weekend. return time i love independence day. thanks for joining us tonight so let me tell you about a story about news of the world which is a tabloid news paper in the u.k. which is actually owned by rupert murdoch and news corp and they were now being accused of hacking a girl's phone who actually was dead take a look at this. this is just amazed that they were listening so the message is of her family and friends who are trying to find out where she rolls even apparently deleted some of those messages the late more room called the cell phone mailbox.

i'm sorry the girl was murdered and now you want to say that this is just so messed up i can't believe they're doing this but they have actually admitted to illegally hacking the cell phones of twenty four celebrities in the past or even have somebody from the u.k. press association. who was arrested in terms of this that makes you think that this is more of a widespread practice and is that what they're doing to like is that what they're doing to stay afloat because people want the headlines that are starting to hack into people's phones to get the juicy gossip and sue clark well as i think it is that they're hacking into celebrities funds i think that it takes it to a whole new level that they're happening to people who are missing i mean this court they were deleting voicemail so that they would make room for her family or friends to leave more voice mails and her family took that as a sign that she was alive and in fact she was dead i mean i think it's awful and actually they're now having to notify other families that their loved ones who are dead phones may have been hacked is what but the it's sick but that's because people are so obsessed with these types of stories with the casey anthony trials of

the world that we've been showing and so is that what they do to like to feed consumption i may have been making excuses but i actually want to go and i'm not you know blame partially. in our consumption of these things that steve jobs is about where he says if you want to. blame media since you're going to people consume the media because they continue to give it to him and honestly i think that media continues this person's voice that we continue to you know i think that that's taking the easy way out to say that this is what we want so we give it to them so what if people want to watch and see curious on their own vision we would be like well we'll have to make it happen so viewers you know just give it to the. news organizations to do to to stay afloat and it is it's sickening and it's deplorable i'm just wondering how long it takes until somebody hears starts trying to do the exact same thing it's become so widespread there. are so. wanting another story we're obviously talk to go a lot about the how person everything over the weekend fox news got hacked and

somebody tweeted from their account a number of tweets basically saying that barack obama was assassinated we also know that obama's campaign web site got hacked in the secret service is now investigating the hack on fox news which is really funny to me because normally you'd never see the secret service and fox news. this is the working together but just because they want to get the hackers so bad this is an excuse because they mention the president now they get to launch like a full investigation i have to say i'm a little confused about the hack to obama's presidential site because it appears that it possibly wasn't a hack at all that those calendars are used there generated and they're now saying that the website was not compromised and they deleted the event they're going to organize ok well i think it's weird that i think you have a leader has been his twitter was. really the calendar on obama's campaign website will be user generated that's well i think it's actually speaks to some of their tactics in terms of power and what i think the stories are actually even more important for another another reason that's there's a small constituency of people in this country who know how to talk to machines and

they are more powerful than almost anybody else and they're the developers in the coders and the people behind all these computers and more and more that we're going to start talking to them because they are clearly taking over the world yet and i'm i'm a little disturbed because now we've got this new group that supposedly hacked fact hacked fox's twitter is the script kiddies other off their groups and i'm going back which used to be a little second everything just getting so confusing and i think we just need one hacker group that we can focus on are all just going to get told i mean we can't cover it we're clearly i realize that her story is one of the the whole point though they're all loosely organized and there is not one giant hacker world out there this story i just kind of you know obviously everybody is on twitter we tweet a lot out there but guess who is now going to get twitter account it's the vice president he's going to be tweeting at v.p. and it's kind of thinking what could possibly go wrong let's think of what he said in the past. i would throw

members of your family and i have i wouldn't go anywhere in confined places now why would not be at this point or sorry if they had another way of transportation she just knew to ride the subway so i just wonder who allowed it joe biden and. i wish they had been literally instead of. because literally not a single person started a hashtag today that literally going to shit happens and it would be so how do you treat all kind of little announcements you know. just unaware of and suddenly that's going to start panic you're going to tell people never to go on boats never go on trains or you don't have to go in flight you know where my first thought was obviously they're not going to let him do this someone has to regulate that and then i thought oh god that's a vice president and i just thought he can't handle his own twitter that's really frightening thing and he's a p.r. mess i'm sure he's going to have somebody that's tweeting for him anyway lucky to have her is a p.r. mess though because i think people do it's and during the p.r.

reality that you know anybody can go in there's a last i don't know if i can wait for jungle to tweet. this is kind of i.g.f. it really quick a woman in mexico went to go visit her husband for a conjugal visit in jail and then she got sick trying to sneak a map and what kind of stuff is going on where you're trying to have a conjugal visit and that little is really why you need a suitcase going when you go in for a time people visit well when you come out next toys or you're wearing it that's when she when she came out when she came out they were suspicious because the bag was obviously stuffed and she said it's dirty underwear. because that case looks right but i wonder. what are you guys thanks for joining me tonight sorry. that's it for tonight so thanks for tuning in to make you come back tomorrow and make more santoro from talking points memo. before any of us for happy hour found any time to forget become a fan of

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