we've got to rein in our deficits and get the government to live within its means while still making the investments that help put people to work right now. however is this the land of the baby and the home of the unemployed does the u.s. government create too many barriers to create jobs. and don't mess with texas even you president obama so why did governor rick perry ignore obama's request to spare the life of a mexican born man. two one zero one liberal one little boy make that three to one layoff for nasa with atlantis on its final

mission we'll tell you what's ahead for the american space program and thousands of its workers. good evening it's friday july eighth and laurin lister here in washington d.c. and you're watching our team now the conversation in washington continues to focus on debt and deficits new jobs report is out and highlights what many argue is the real issue that's not being discussed enough unemployment the numbers are way worse than analysts were expecting take a look unemployment takes up to nine point two percent it was up nine point one percent last month only eighteen thousand jobs were added in june employers hired the fewest number of workers and nine months and to give you some perspective analysts were expecting ninety thousand jobs to be created now just to remind you the economy would need to add one hundred twenty five thousand. the month just to

keep up with population growth and two hundred fifty thousand to bring down unemployment so you can see that eight hundred thousand is really just a tiny drop in the bucket and just to give you a little context of how others are doing our neighbor up north canada based on net job gains beat expectations in june for a third consecutive month their jobless rate was unchanged at seven point four percent of course slightly different economies but just to give you some context now back in the u.s. obama had plenty of excuses for the numbers today here are some of them we've always known that we do have ups and downs on our way back from this recession and over the past few months the economy's experienced some tough headwinds from natural disasters to spikes in gas prices to state and local budget cuts that have cost tens of thousands of cops and firefighters and teachers their jobs the problems in greece and in europe alone with uncertainty over whether the debt limit here in the united states will be raised evolves from

a businesses hesitant to invest more aggressively. however other analysts say job growth came to a halt the second month in a row which suggests a sharp slowdown not merely a blip but that the us is getting closer to recession not that this is a blip in the road to recovery and that the broad weakness in the jobs report means excuses such as natural disasters basically mean squat and take a look at this chart this shows the average duration of unemployment look at this a look in two thousand and ten look at how that compares this touted recovery to past ones it is much worse and some analysts say this points to a structural unemployment problem with a big chunk of the population that are permanently out of the workforce earlier i spoke with less leopold he's an economist he's also author of this book the looting of america how wall street's game of fantasy finance destroyed our jobs pensions and prosperity and what we can do about it i asked him what he thinks of obama's

rocky road to recovery excuse is this valid or are these jobs reports just another sign that jobs are gone and they're not coming back here's his take. actually both explanations i think aren't accurate it's not a structural obama's excuses don't mean anything and it's not a structural problem what it is is that we had a gigantic implosion for the last three years to the wall street gambling casino crash and those jobs have not been recreated because people don't have enough money in their pockets. instead of trying to put more money in people's pockets especially by putting windfall profits tax is on page funds and. street banks and profitable companies like that the financial companies who caused the problem in the first place instead of doing that state after state has been forced to cut their budgets with leads to more layoffs which leads to less buying power and of course you're going to have a stagnant economy what's going on in washington right now we know i'm sorry i know

you're in washington or not i want to attack you but there is like collective insanity going on there the idea of dealing with a deficit crisis while we have actually the real unemployment rate is eighteen point five percent there are nearly thirty million people unemployed if you count all the people like people who are forced into part time work people haven't looked for work in the last four weeks it's we need twenty one million new jobs there's nobody to get back to full employment there's nobody in their right mind that thinks this is just a little problem that we're going to econ through because there's bumps in the roads the more we could stay there for us it's the more problems we're going to have ok i want to get to that issue and perth i want to get to something you thought you mentioned wall street you mentioned that wall street got it and it is crisis and one of the reasons that some people point to. their problem is deregulation over the last thirty years government regulation and the fed at this let wall street go willy nilly about whatever it wanted and shacked it something

that people have accused played a role in part ample of the oil spill in the gulf that deregulation allowed for that kind of if that's going to happen do you believe that deregulation has been part of the problem over the last thirty years. i don't think it's a question of belief i think it's an established fact two things contributed to rectally to the housing crisis one of those dramatic cuts in income taxes for the super rich so they had an enormous amount of capital that they wanted to find investments for and the second was the deregulation of the entire economy but especially wall street because that allowed wall street to create fancy new bets to suck up all this money that was floating around in the hands of a few that's a lethal combination how was the combination in the late one nine hundred twenty s. the length of that crash and we did it again it led to this crash when we sat on finance i mean really regulated them from the night late one thousand four hundred forty four all the way to one nine hundred seventy five or so and we really had

high taxes on the super rich there were no financial crises none globally. or virtually no i think it was one in brazil in one nine hundred sixty four we've got one hundred eighty eight since we've deregulated i don't think there's much to argue about here let's talk about regulations on. business practices and profits all during the fifty's and sixty's we had strict regulations here lines telecommunications trucking and a whole host of industries where we basically said look you can make profits but you can't make too much profit we tracked we had strict regulations on monopolies we enforced and i trust legislation but most importantly we sat on wall street it was a boring place to work it was not a place where you could go and set up a casino. the less leopold economist and author of the looting of america and sticking to president obama he called despair this man's life effective governor

rick perry said no way and went ahead with the execution of umberto liao garcia and garcia was mexican born a convicted rapist and murderer who governor perry said because there are to die that even though the white house said it was in breach of an international convention governing the treatment of foreigners who are arrested and the harm to american interests of killing this president would be irreparable the supreme court rejected an appeal from the white house to hear talk about what all of this means as our key contributor we now is and he joins us here for more so my first question you have the president of the united states asking perry not to do this you have the governor of texas saying no way i'm not going to commute this sentence and putting this man to death on a surface this looks like a big and we're just trying to figure out is there a precedent to this that you can recall well this is of course there have been executions of foreign nationals in the united states before foreign citizens and

the united states. i mean george bush still holds that george w. bush still holds the record on executions when he was governor perry is close behind but the idea is perry knew that there was a five to four decision in the u.s. supreme court to refuse to stay the execution while the senate considers legislation to bring the u.s. including all the states and territories in line with this the end of convention on consular relations and by basically snubbing this international treaty that the u.s. has signed up to texas is putting every american traveling abroad who gets arrested for just the filed for or i'm just to file the reasons they're put in jeopardy because what this individual said is he wasn't afforded quick. consular services from the mexican consulate without the les that's what the treaty says that was what he used as a basis to have the execution stayed you mentioned the role that it has played

internationally and i read that this by least in the one nine hundred sixty three treaty that was signed by the us that provided for the consular access provision that without on the insistence of the u.s. . the u.s. has relied on it and many instances to secure legal help and get the release of americans and present abroad i read thirty five hundred times that was invoked last year just alone to get americans out of prison and other countries so what does it say that a state can be rail could possibly do rail the u.s. in that way and this is not the first time texas has done is in two thousand and three they put to death a british citizen who maintain that he was not afforded access to consular services as a matter of fact there have been scores of people who have been executed foreign citizens and only seven out of out of literally dozens were afforded.

consular services without the lake and texas was cited by amnesty international is one of the biggest violators of any other u.s. state when it comes to not giving foreign citizens quick access to the consulate was the united nations came out and said that this execution was a violation of international law as well but if you're mentioning that this has happened many times before then it seems and the united states is still able to use this treaty and getting american prisoners out of other countries it doesn't seem like that maybe it's a problem well here's the problem for the united states is just like the international criminal court we want other countries to comply with international law but we violate international law all the time i mean if we were to apply the international law equally governor perry maybe should be taken to the hague. for his violations of international law on numerous occasions people who maintain they were innocent were executed by in his state george w.

bush is guilty and john ashcroft when he was governor of missouri also is way up there in the end the list of governors who have committed these executions winters and questions raised governor george ryan of illinois commuted all the seeking out all of them because they were getting course i prodded because the journalism students were showing that people on death row were innocent i worked for that innocence project i remember that very well over but you know i want to talk a little bit about what you pointed at the united states wants other countries to abide by something that it doesn't itself i want to just kind of cloud a couple scenarios you know if italy executed amanda knox for example without letting her speak to the u.s. consulate would there be an outrage in the united states own i'm sure there would be and it's this is you know we not even just that hypothetical look we have american citizens who have killed people abroad private military contractors they're brought back to the united states and nothing's really done they get a slap on the wrist maybe a few months in prison and have to pay

a fine but we're looking you know other countries around the world looking and then saying this is this is an even application of international law where the u.s. thinks it's above every other country and when it comes to a foreign citizen of course they are not given access to consulates and their. executed i would add that many countries around the world have abolished the death penalty i think the united states this is why north korea and a few yes realize country it's a developed country that still have that as an alternate but aside from that i just going back to the political question can you recall a time where the president has publicly asked for something like this and then a governor has now done we're trying to just think that there's a similar situation where we had what that we had we've had george w. bush when he was governor and. even ignore the pope so you know look i think curry is he's a potential candidate for president here he's going to use this macho thing of you

guys stood up to president obama who wanted this vile rapist and murderer. at least his execution states all the senate can consider this legislation to bring us more in line with the international agreements i think there's some political presidential politics at play here as well that you think this is a political chip that resulted in the execution of a man that could possibly have international ramifications for the united states absolutely remember governor perry has said on numerous occasions he favors secession of texas he had it because i'm going to depend a country if it were under his leadership sanctions would probably be applied against the republic of texas by the international community or have to leave it at that it's it's an interesting point that you raise and i do want to point out that on the same day that we executed this man the u.s. imposed visa restrictions on officials of the government of iran for those who have committed human rights abuses it's a little ironic coming on a day that the united states executed a man arguably in violation of international law as well as effective journalist

wayne madsen with his analysis of the situation now today with a big day as far as space for the united states the space shuttle atlantis blasted off now this is supposed to be the final launch ever and whatever turns thousands of shuttle workers they want blast off they will be laid off that's on top of the thousands that have already lost their jobs and after this american astronauts will have to hitch rides to and from space from some other country quite possibly most likely the russian soyuz that fifty million bucks the trip it is really the end of the era of space exploration for the united states for now and also the end of the livelihoods for many you can only assume as artie's guy and shit you can found out firsthand first off. empty shells that's what was once florida's thriving space coast. up to ten thousand people will be out of a job as soon as the last shuttle makes its final voyage back to earth home to many

of the kennedy space center workers rock which is on the verge of becoming a ghost town without the space program or pretty much nothing i mean this is what you know your beach is built on the space program you know a lot. of people left and right stands anthony chris a fully spent twenty three years with the shuttle launch team as an engineer with a client blasting our for its final mission it means the end of his career with nasa and the beginning of uncertainty a year ago he started looking for a new job to no avail i have applied for jobs and so far i haven't gotten any concrete responses there's not that many jobs out there for sure the u.s. scrapped its shuttle program and now wants the private sector to come up with ways to get astronauts to space several companies are working on new vehicles but it's not clear when bill be able to deliver them one thing is certain though they'll be

able to hire only a fraction of the skilled space industry workers will be out of work this is the first ever it never made it to space but it was used for tests before the columbia shuttle first launch into space in nineteen eighty one a total of five shuttles i've been used for space missions since that two of them were lost in tragic accidents a nine hundred eighty six and in two thousand and three those lawsuits and the skyrocketing price break each launch gradually less to the cancellation of the program but critics say it's hard to estimate the losses that the end of the shuttle program will bring about both for the space industry and the people involved i think it's a really bad. to lose the skilled workforce it's going to be difficult to rebuild or for years the shuttle has been the only vehicle that could be very cruel and a massive load of cargo to space officials say one of the reasons the program was

scrapped is that it's safer and cheaper to send cargo and people separately something that russia for example has been doing for many years but whatever the reasons for scrapping the thirty year old program for those who devote their lives to it is the end of their dream job kind of sad because i've already seen a lot of a few of my friends go in there because they'll be more people that are probably may never see again it also means the end of a once vibrant scientific community that's grown up around the shuttle going to shirk on our team and there are communities like that in several places throughout the united states that have relied on this kind of space exploration right now joining me is you vonnie pin zone he is an aerospace technician who himself expects to be laid off two days after the shuttle lands i want to thank you so much for joining me i'm also of course so sorry to hear that you will be laid off as a result of this program being shuttered but what i want to ask is you know as evidenced by the scrapping of the shuttle program

a lot of people seem to think that space exploration in the united states for the united states is a waste of money so give me examples of how the technology to come from the space program has been important for the country and arguably the world as well i believe one satellites as great a big role. on country all those. photos. also those mobile phones a lot of technology and space program. and will that technology do you think it will stop being developed and there are starting breakthroughs like that as a result of the shuttle program being shattered. but you know also if we're going to leave it to foreign resources you know when i think the mark americans should be the ones leading the. space program well and you bring up an interesting point you

know the united states this is really it seems like an end of an era back you know decades ago the u.s. was in crisis and the country rally to go to space and the space program the shuttle launches that continued throughout other recessions and now you see the country in crisis and we're scrapping it i'm wondering what you think that does for national pride but it's going to american pride because this is i believe one of the things america has left that we pretty much outsource everything ok and now we're going to also outsource the space program leave it to the russians and the chinese. i think making a mistake by doing that we should continue leading the space program america's always been for leading the space program what do you think the biggest consequence will be is it the technology is it the kind of american psyche and pride what do you really feel. the american pride without question bethany would be one of them

because that's always always. a strong leadership role in the space program and then technology. it comes from the space program. develop a lot of technology. i'm not even aware of. and you mentioned some of them earlier and of course there's also the issue of jobs thousands of people will be losing them these are highly qualified people they are in some cases now the employees are pretty well paid how well someone like yourself just what can you do now. i will have to start from scratch you know too much into my search. i'll probably find something outside of the space program and yes myself and a lot of other people go we're going to be affected by. two thousand people you know it's going to be an. do you think you know you being an aerospace technician someone like yourself or an aerospace engineer that maybe has been doing this for

thirty years do you think that someone like that can retrain for something else and is that what needs to happen but all the skills you have. definitely. hopefully with aviation programs taken off we may have a chance to go in and out the reaction. the u.s. president is interesting because he's been talking about innovation for a while now and focusing on science and about the importance to the united states do you think that shuttering the space program in this way affect the u.s. his ability to attract the best and the brightest science minds from around the world. actually can. and what about sustaining them in the united states because you know are these you know your colleagues yourself thousands of of highly trained science mind that now

essentially may go to waste in that capacity. you know that's a strong possibility it's going to be hard and the skilled people especially even displayed florida oh and so the parts of the country that's going to be hard to get the skilled back. the space program takes off again ok and really quickly you know you mentioned that the united states is outsourcing the space travel that sort of thing another thing the united states is looking at is privatization of space something that they're already investing in where you think that. well that can be good in a way you know and i guess it creates competition on the private companies who want to thank. the only downside to. it also with the competition and bring down the. scale for a quarter you know are going to want more it should make your pay that's that's of

course a an important issue oh thank you so much for sharing with us your personal experience we certainly appreciate it that was aerospace technician giovanni pinzon. and don't go away still ahead right here on our t.v. the british are coming the duke and duchess of cambridge head to the u.s. but at the royal flush on american faces though. the sun. the sun. the sun. the sun. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through the thirty percent may who can you trust no one. is you feel you

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you like our t.v. show which is the world below mine interpreter brand new internet story official our chief product. the question more with our t.v.'s are. welcome back the brits are coming to press off the celebration of u.s. independence from the british on july fourth and americans are going crazy over their arrival arrival of the duke and duchess of cambridge they are arriving in los angeles and artie's among the lindo gives us a look at the over the top love the u.s. shows for the monarchy and on skid row where willing kate are planning to visit why everyone isn't so thrilled to have them. homelessness growing in america thanks there's controlling the global economy. deep austerity measures affecting the poor and most vulnerable these are the

stories the mainstream media blackout nors or under reports instead this afternoon l.a. is getting a royal visit yes it's finally going to be happening you'll get this this couple they are subsets the most famous couple in the world right now. anyway we'll be following their every move because that's what we do in a city known for glitz glamour and hollywood celebrities the visit from the duke and duchess of cambridge is drawing massive attention so why are so many americans and patch we did with will and kate and it's a little bit of culture in l.a. they were not used to going to class i think it's going to work you souvenirs british flags even tea pots are hot sellers forgive the americans who can't wait for the royal arrival so in a sense this new british invasion is a good thing for us it is a very good thing and i care so much for all that patriotic pride over beating the

brits. i think it's quite funny that the visit willink a visit is happening just after independence day i always feel quite a lonely place out on july fourth given the fact that you fought to keep us out and how people falling into apartments and well hollywood elites and california governor prepared to roll out the red carpet for the duke and duchess people living in a not so blabber is part of l.a. could really care less about the arrival of the royal newlyweds we're here for what . they all do some ok you feel ready. to. go back to your work hours. and life goes on you're the royal visit and can be stopped in l a's infamous skid row where it's estimated that more than eight thousand homeless people besides willing kids visit also comes amid

a recent merriest poll which shows one in four americans don't know basic u.s. history many unaware that the u.s. a cleared its independence from england and seven hundred seventy six or more of us are coming over i think willing. you know maybe we're going to record an america america may have succeeded in breaking away from other england but in the end it's the british who may have already succeeded in colonizing american mines this is l.a. so it's perfect because they're creating people coming clattering looks x. miles apparently good enough to forget about a tyrannical monarchy that wants control of this land she wears everything from passports go to from great minds to create value in los angeles and i'm telling the arty. got a lot of l.a. anything for pretty people that doesn't for now provide us stories we cover got our t. dot com slashing with a.