after the break conservatives heather servo and a managerial president had to go to join me for our weekly role. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions great through bit through made who can you trust no one who is you know you would have lowball machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism and school sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.

are you ready to rumble in time for friday night's big picture of where i sit down with three expert political commentators to debate the week's top stories on our panel tonight amanda carey reporter at the daily caller dot com democratic strategist erica community and heather sermon conservative strategist managing owner of for forty group public relations and now blogging at either servo dot com congratulations on welcome to you all and let's get started. there you go. new job numbers today bad news for the economy only eighteen thousand jobs added last month unemployment up to nine point two percent here's what the president say about those job report confirms what most americans already know we

still have a long way to go and a lot of work to do to give people the security and opportunity but they deserve the economic challenges that we face weren't created overnight and they're not going to be solved overnight but the american people expect us to act on every single good idea that's out there. so you know president obama has actually republicans have been in charge of the white house earlier the house of representatives six months now and bush as i recall ten years ago said if we just had these tax cuts we get all kinds of jobs is it time to ask where the jobs are canada just created was a ten million ten thousand person is thirty three million people ten thousand more jobs than the u.s. in fact actually we have a chart here that the connection were to go over here the seat of government jobs declining under the obama administration and we're down to half a million jobs in the in the public sector after

a million jobs. these layoffs are mostly happening in the red states and in the twenty four states of been laying off twenty five states and hiring and in those states we're also seeing g.d.p. go down and and and economies go down you know the republicans killing the economy in order to win the election. and i don't know i mean i would say that they're that they're playing chicken with the budget and playing chicken with the with that ceiling is absolutely a kind of a kamikaze mission and i think that they do and a lot of ways think that if this can this trend continues that they will be reaping the benefits and then i think i mean you were but i think the bigger thing here is that what they're really doing is they're sabotaging economy with the lack of policy that it makes sense i mean if you look at me what i think that chart really shows is the is really where the stimulus money is right now where there were is an injection of money coming into the state that's helping about the budgets and now the money is the money is gone it's not going to come back and sort of this from

the recession although we have i know big tax cuts that were passed as part of the package and so that's he will not rest on people like tax cuts you know tax cuts gave people more money in their pockets i wish that they would be extended and the government job if they got really jobs. the government jobs being cut you know that obviously will affect the economy for a little bit but what the republicans want to do is they want to allow for the creation of more private sector jobs which is actually better for the economy so that's not to be reflected yet so matter and also we need help from the federal government to reduce that size how can we how can government employees no longer having jobs no longer going to the local cold store to buy food or clothes no longer going to the local restaurant away from how can that help. a lot of risk i mean the focus needs to be on private sector jobs not government jobs and i think are they all the same don't they but there's a everybody's going to and i think i catch up with a lawyer i'll tell you but i will sort of but i mean what private sector jobs let's focus on the private sector first and that's where the real struggle is struggle is

if you look at small businesses i mean they're having a ridiculously hard time. and you know when this president obama finally going to take responsibility for that yes republicans birth control and you know did a lot of damage but president came into office with a load of promises and i think americans right now. are expecting things this turn around and clearly that's not how the role as a whole might not work apropos of that here john boehner today came out and eric cantor said you know ok the job numbers are bad therefore it is. if i'm an increase that raises taxes we're fails to make serious spending cuts but it won't last past the house it just does not make sense for americans to suffer under higher taxes in the economy like this and as the speaker said there is no way that the house of representatives will support a tax increase so i think in addition to that what mike pence is

a test of and number of other lawmakers we need to have a balanced budget amendment so we start finding ourselves on a solution on a time when who did i just out there just say i care just i think about which obviously was a corporate jet tax loophole kind of like jobs are going by that i had already made in terms of interest on one thing that the rich are being asked to sacrifice well you know these guys are saying ok we're going to we're going to do it we're going to go after social security we're going to go after medicare one of the pleasing one thing that the rich people i want in order to feel like i don't think even i like what we're going to pay taxes or even benefit a tax break like you have to have an economy that's healthy enough to have a job in order to be reaping the benefits and for the under the under ploy the unemployed these are the people that aren't even benefiting from these tax breaks and these tax cuts are supposed to simulate a lot of members of my business or not in paying taxes in the first place so you know i don't really like a rollback what the got look i'm trying federal tax so when i got here and i really couldn't care less of the earth here's another good fact for you right now that

they found at the top twenty five hedge fund managers it twenty five richest and close that loophole it would create more billion dollars in revenue and that the income that those twenty five people are on is the equivalent of over four hundred thousand middle class families so yeah i'm not against you if you get all those are you going to close on them with. the chunkier you can carry things that you do that sometimes you have to increase how is that it would be they are saying it's a job you care to answer has come out saying that he is opening or closing loopholes i know what. as to someplace else until today's job numbers but you could we as you talked about in the program recently you can. close those loopholes and have another deal going on where you can raise taxes on business as the democrats want to do you close the loopholes you reduce the corporate tax rates there is no ten net tax increase yet both sides get what they want so i think that's a workable solution and i think we also have

a balanced budget amendment that makes complete sense the states are completely manapul of that we don't want to be in this crisis again so never again can anybody invest in treasuries or there's there's no safe investment left in the united states because we've got a balanced budget. zbigniew brzezinski had this to say the other day mr b. c. well i don't want to i don't want to be a prophet of doom about it i don't believe that we're approaching. but i think we're going to slide into the intensified social conflicts social history that some forms of radicalism it's just going to be a certain so this is not just society this is amanda we're now the most unequal society among the o.e.c.d. countries with the most developed countries of the world. are we on the brink of a disaster should we be looking at redistribution of wealth. and frankly i don't see any evidence of that to you i do see the rich getting richer actually seen any

evidence of major civil unrest of radical islam because wealth inequality and if anything if there is any quality then let's let's focus on bringing the poor people up and not bringing the wealthy down why would we want to lower the bar so their sizes zero sum game smartness i mean i think that that right now there hasn't been too many signs of social unrest but when people are pushed further into the live with this disparity and we haven't lived with this for a long period of time we are going to see things like wisconsin where people are pushed to the point where they are going to start protesting and there's going to be people camping out in the street in front of their capitol protesting against unions no they were not the people that were in wisconsin are protesting against ending a collective bargaining which was the whole primary benefit of getting it all to be though i mean the whole affair but that's also about allowing them the ability to you know to negotiate on mass to be a part of a player in the economy i think that what makes america great and why people of america and why i love it i think we can all agree on this is because it is the

land of opportunity when it ceases to be that when everybody sees when you let me tell you when he said he can we are now the leaders emotionally mobile lesion along and that's what i think obviously for that is though is that for the last twenty years we have not been a country that creates jobs in the private sector we're not going to have charted new corporations we have not created an environment for that and so therefore we do see the working class thing a lot different from the upper middle class and you don't have that sense of upward mobility that we used to absolutely agree thing that this is indeed a back to the trade balance where the first is the builder country and education strong public education as well is also another problem that we've got when it when every child can go ahead and start with the same level of education and at least up until they're eighteen or go to college then that that's a lot of a bill. i mean but we have this disparity in our education system where we're privatizing and work you know outsourcing and we're not creating incentives and paying teachers well we're going to have the same problem well and that is why i'm

not a real decent parent to take this to. this concept of outrage or whatever but casey anthony just everybody's all upset oh no she should have gone to jail or whatever. we have a bunch of gangsters who crashed our country you know back when the bankers crashed the country into the reagan administration he put eight hundred of them in prison i don't know of a single gangster who's going to jail shouldn't shouldn't we be looking at the quine's there was an article in one of the one of the papers it was in the last week or so the obama's original sin was that he didn't recognize the crime that was committed over the last decade or so since the deregulation of the banks in the united states thousand and and do anything about it i'm not even sure there's a partisan issue amanda your thoughts. you know i think it's a good debate to be had and i think we have had it before i don't see how that's going to solve any of our problems our own frankly i think it's a sort of

a waste of time both i want to support dollars so there isn't you know. they sucked several trillion dollars out of the u.s. economy our g.d.p. as. well you know i mean i think that there's i think that casey anthony and this is kind of usually exclusive i think that there are a lot of trials that happened in the united states there are useless and i think there's reason to have reforms and that regard but i do think though that both parties are responsible for a lot of the banking crisis that happened so you can't put your finger at one of the other you know so you can't really i if you said you can't make a partisan issue i think that both sides air and i hope we learn from that and the the democrats who are calling for in fact nancy pelosi passed it let's restore steidl or some variation of what i asked the house of representatives in a wise legislative session and got stopped by republicans in the senate you know he was reregulation of banks the republican saying exactly even the implementation here very key point of this is the consumer protection agency that would be headed

up by elizabeth warren and up locking up her appointment i mean there's been this kind of stopping and i think what with the casey anthony trial i mean kind of leading connection there is that the emotional energy that has been expended by so many people in this outrage seems to be. so trite when compared to the other issues that face our economy and face our country and there seems to be a kind of. lax or yeah i mean or a lack of kind of emotional investment in our personal and our outcomes as a country or as you know our future and why are we so following this so closely but we're not following that that limit negotiations or we're not following you know the the regulation the regulation back on wall street might have or how or when american or not worried about their work edges or jordan or was woman joe arpaio is a thousand people in a tent prison that he walked into the forest and measured the temperature of one hundred forty five degrees i mean isn't there something functionally wrong with

that a and b. i'm wondering if if c.e.o.'s who are hiring illegal immigrants into arizona where the occupants of that prison would be one hundred forty five degrees in there or would it be well air conditioned as as jails usually are for c.e.o.'s and if we want to do something about the the illegal immigrant problem the pros so hysterical about why don't we start a rest and c.e.o.'s who are hungry and stop the madness. but i have a good question i mean. you know they have an office rocker to be quite honest he's absolutely and that's why sheriffs are like to i mean so people and good amount i mean if they completely crazy but i mean and it is he's taking on a popular population that that he can because they're not as well represented they don't necessarily have the legal illegal you know everything you have but also i mean the people who tend to be in prisons are also this economically disadvantaged

they don't have access to the legal resources i'm just saying if there was a thousand you know people have it any other particular group it would be a lot harder to get away with having done this for so long and it takes groups like there's a lot of groups like amnesty international the a.c.l.u. that and eileen charges against him first. practices for a long period time but there certainly hasn't been you know every trial lawyer doing it i mean i've got to find the tent isn't there anything that the sheriff does i would use this and we've talked about this before i would use this example for an argument for a major i guess. in prison reforms on a on the whole i mean a lot of people in this prison are there for nonviolent crimes and they're waiting why can't we just reform the system and it's also why begin with because of overcrowding in prison i mean do you have not reside in prison in any country in the world humor of a really good point a lot of these people haven't even been convicted of something and now they're sitting out in time that's what i dream and that's why you have in california basically they're saying we're going to let out prisoners if we don't have the

resources anymore everything's ok and let's just end for example the drug war i mean you know. the first thing ok consensus is our quick fire question last night show bachmann became the first republican candidate for president to sign off on a controversial petition this petition says homosexuality is a choice of polygamy and adultery it's a public health risk all forms of pornography should be banned i don't know how she thinks she's going to get elected with this sure real law should be rejected but she wants a christian former shari'a law and you know essentially say no pornography i mean that's that's like what they do in saudi arabia pornography for your head and and and also there's this petition that michele bachmann so i said that african-americans were better off under slavery then they are now so is being a theocrat and promising to run the nation in this under christian shari'a was no

requirement to be a republican running for president this is just a once once a year no i think that that's a very tricky line you have to walk down as a christian i'm a christian and as a public policy person you know because you want to to appeal. a key voting element but you also don't want to come across that angelus like you just said and michele bachmann may have made a mistake by signing this just because it does seem to be quite looked at there i'm also question and i i definitely i think there's a difference between showing people you know that your faith is. your values and that you're a good solid person and saying that people who are gay are the downfall of society and that black children would be better off if they were slaves i mean that's ridiculous oh it's take what they said it just fell on it and say. she's obviously playing to a certain base and so far she seems to be getting pretty good but i think that's sort of pushes that limit and it's going to backfire i think if you can really get

i think i don't think so frankly because if you go back and you look at the years of history that michele bachmann has none of these positions that are in this petition are inconsistent with what she's been saying all kids are going to be a lot different this year and that's i think she needs santorum side it to rest not because it has you know yesterday or i'm saying it's. not for nothing right one policy is the be about it and that makes it moral generalize and really really it's about maisie amanda erica how do you think you're saying from. after the break after the break until we take on the supreme court's unequal approach to law that is putting americans abroad at risk of lining the pockets of the transnational corporate bodies.

let's not forget that we are in the park right brooke. i think the. one well. we never got the live shows the keep you safe get ready for freedom. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything is all.

i'm trying hard welcome to the big picture. for. four. or five to four ruling came down from the supreme court the five right wing justices giving texas governor rick perry the go ahead to execute

a mexican citizen has actually written the case of whom there are so lee al garcia convicted of rape and murder through both domestic and international criticism it was learned that texas police had denied garcia his right to contact the mexican consulate the embassy before being arrested. or upon being arrested according to the vienna convention which president nixon signed and our senate ratified any person arrested in any nation where they are not a citizen has the right to comic contact their embassy and in the case of america garcia that right was ignored by the police in texas because of that tree a u.n. tribunal order to stay of execution a number of legal and foreign policy experts advise against the execution of president obama raised concerns over the execution and even george w. bush pushed for a stay of execution senator patrick leahy introduced legislation to force texas to put off the execution and recognize our international obligations under the vienna

convention kerry ignored all of it though and it came down to a last ditch effort in the supreme court to prevent america from violating a treaty that we had signed with the supreme court couldn't stop her either now if you're arrested abroad that foreign nation could refuse you your right to see the american embassy weirdly the supreme court ruled that international law has no effect on how states deal with their criminals which is strange considering that international laws have prompted american laws over and over and over in the last two decades since our nation jumped into the so-called free trade bandwagon and joined the world trade organization it's an issue i talk about in chapter eight of my book an equal protection. by joining the world trade organization our nation agreed to follow a whole slew of new international laws that protect so-called free trade

a feather in the cap of transnational corporations so now whenever our congress passes a law the transnational corporations don't like we can be taken to a deputy o. court and forced to drop that law as happened earlier this year in may when the us took a bite out of us sovereignty ruling that american americans can no longer label tuna products as dolphin safe why it is such labeling could deter customers from purchasing certain foreign to one of products that aren't often safe thus limiting free trade in the united states not a peep from the supreme court though this was about corporations making more money but that's not all that heavy t.o. has struck down laws in america to ban importation of goods made with child labor. laws that prevent importation of shrimp from trans national corporations that kills the turtles in the process have been struck down american laws struck down and laws

that ban the importation of carcinogenic gasoline additives american laws made by american legislators struck down by the international w t o not a word from the supreme court on these either in each case they've been more profits for transnational corporations just fine with the supreme court ultimately our nation has lost nine out of every ten cases in front of you since joining the organization in one thousand nine hundred five that means nine out of ten times our nation was forced to change our laws passed by our congress and signed by our president because of what some massive transnational corporation tells us as part of an international treaty and our supreme court never objected after all every case even more money for giant corporations like the ones his representatives and owners regularly wine and dine antonin scalia and clarence thomas and who frankly are paying thomas' wife salary for letting the deputy o. poison us and kill off the environment also that more trans national corporate

profits can be piled up and not once has our supreme court stepped up to say the treaties should not trump us or in matters of protecting consumers or the environment but when it comes to killing a human the supreme court gives rick perry the green light this is insanity just goes to show how corrupted our supreme court is by transnational corporate interests now care about human rights and what sort of danger they're putting americans abroad in because of their ruling is only care about corporate profits and since no corporate profits were at stake in the garcia case and you are damned if international law was violated. it's this swiss cheese approach to american sovereignty that is destroying our nation it's making us a slave to so-called free trade and at the same time making us a pariah in the international community because of things like what rick perry does that we're supposed to be

a nation of laws and our constitution specifically says that if we signed treaties they become part of the law of the land right there in the constitution but for this supreme court of the constitution says it's pretty meaningless they even say that when the fourteenth amendment was passed in eight hundred sixty eight to free the slaves congress in the states actually meant to give political free speech to trans national corporations thomas jefferson was right when he complained that the court in one thousand or three had taken too much power for itself in the marbury case he said that because of that the constitution was now his words a thing of wax in the hands of the supreme court and because of that our constitution is also a thing of racks in the hands of the transnational corporations and we need to wake up and wake up soon check out move to amend dot org for more information on what you can do. as the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we

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