tv [untitled] July 8, 2011 10:00pm-10:30pm EDT
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talking of a load of shell oil at the real headlines with none of the mersey parking lot in washington d.c. now they will look at the no good a very bad utterly depressing jobs numbers and i'll ask why washington refuses to take any of the blame and while congress debates cutting your programs we're going to tell you about the hefty new paycheck the pentagon is about to get also say goodbye to nasa shuttle program and figure out what could be next for space exploration but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss.
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guess who's coming to town let's just say that it's a foreign visitor of great importance to america's diplomatic relations with the world a visitor that might affect the lives of americans the security of this country and our economic future just kidding it's wills and kate. first for the duchess of cambridge to visit the united states for the very first time following a whirlwind tour through canada with the way this is just hours away yet quite different they're coming away with. excitement really when wales now head to los angeles one hundred eight are going to be doing a weekend visit to america pers william and kate have a jam packed weekend planned in california during their first visit to the united states since getting married back in april and all that's right apparently after getting tired of whipping americans into a frenzy over the casey anthony trial now the mainstream media has just shifted its
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focus to whipping americans into a frenzy over royal newlyweds so once again they were all attention away from the real problems facing this country now sure holes and kate are a good looking young couple and she sure dresses real nice but it's not something that you leave to the t.m.c. the entertainment tonight of the world is specially on a day when jobs numbers are really sort of sunk all hopes for any sign of an economic recovery you know it's not like the old family is going to bail us out of our debt or magically create jobs so why do we still have the font over an outdated monarchy that really doesn't serve any purpose other than of course to attract media attention and look rich especially when there are a few other visitors in town visitors on capitol hill or lobbyists actually who come with pockets stuffed full of the any money now if you're wondering with any k. are they stand for the mujahideen a it's an iranian opposition movement that was designated a terrorist organization by the u.s. in one thousand nine hundred seventy a group that helped put on the same carry out attacks against iraq's shia population in the ninety's a group that attacked americans in iran in the one nine hundred eighty s.
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and helped of the one nine hundred seventy nine takeover of the u.s. embassy in tehran but they're also a perfect example of the way that our diplomacy really works which in plain terms means that all of your sins can be forgiven for some cold hard cash and of course into your resources or your land so we can build bases i think you get the point now today a hearing. was held on capitol hill about the possibility of changing its status to a non terrorist organization and they might actually be successful the weeks and time will tell but this has been coming for some time now earlier this year we reported to you that rudy giuliani and a number of former bush officials all met in paris sort of form organized by any case of course were giuliani openly criticized obama's foreign policy and that's something believe me no liberal would ever get away with but my issue here really isn't to rail about whether i believe they deserve his status or they don't it's about the hypocrisy it's about the double standard that's applied there a lobbyist p.r. agents communication firms all swarming around capitol hill to sell this cause can
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you imagine as trita parsi posture today on firedoglake if al qaeda were parading through the halls of congress if some us organize an event on capitol hill now the simple answer to that is an obvious no but it's not real because they're terrorists and we don't like them they have american blood on their hands and you see it's a no because they can't really do anything for us whereas a number of war hans and i want to bomb iran ors philip have a need for the ek so they can pretend to support an iranian people's movement was really just looking for some kind of it in to help them once again convince pundits and analysts and journalists that iran poses and immediate threat a way to start bombing tomorrow you know it's something that john bolton has been trying to do for years but if i make a becomes one of these designated friends he's probably going to find it a lot easier and this is a true testament to how our diplomacy can be bought and is the same way they could all be became our friend we wanted his resources and then we decided to bomb him
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when we tried to keep the oil from us it's the same way that we did nothing to stop sully from killing his people and they haven't because we need him in power for now to take the blame for our drone strikes but all of that hypocrisy all of those double standards the whole fact that everything can be bought these days that's something that your corporate media also got chooses to miss. disappointing dismal rotten brutal awful bad bad bad those are all words that you can describe to the describe excuse me the jobs numbers for the month of june that were released today now despite glowing reports yesterday the private sector again one hundred fifty seven thousand jobs it turns out when you factor in all the other jobs that were lost mostly in the public sector prostates and federally employers only added eighteen thousand jobs over the last month that's much less than the predicted hundred five thousand the unemployment number that most news organizations use rose to nine point two percent and in reality it's actually much
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worse as two hundred seventy two thousand people dropped out of the labor force which brings the real unemployment number the you six the bankers in those who have given up looking those who are underemployed to sixteen point two percent now we also saw the figures from april revised downward which is not a good trend so could it be any more obvious now is suppose it recovery that washington like to speak of doesn't exist and whereas you could have blamed the initial meltdown on the financial crisis at this point we're going washington are making the jobs crisis worse joining me to discuss this is alex sites all reporter and blogger for think progress or thanks so much for joining us tonight thanks for having me for starters the president decided to come out and give maybe a five or six minute great press conference today about the report that came out and i just want to play you a clip of some of the factors that he really blamed the make job growth on this take a listen. this was the economy's experienced some tough headwinds from natural disasters
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spikes gas prices the state local budget cuts that have cost tens of thousands of cops firefighters teachers their jobs the problems in greece and europe along with uncertainty over whether the debt limit here in the united states will be raised evolved. businesses hesitant to vest or aggressive. now really get into the state and local budget cuts which i do think play a large role here but i think the natural disaster is the uncertainty because congress can't make up their mind over the debt ceiling through those factor in a little bit but i think that's a bit of a copout you yeah i mean i think you know any time it's a little bit easy to blame the president congress for everything going on and he certainly deserves a lot of responsibility but from a messaging standpoint i don't know i was a good idea to have obama come out on the back of these really terrible job numbers but i mean you know the reason that we don't have the same reason we've had all along is a lack of demand people just aren't trying things companies aren't hiring because
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they have no reason to do it and you know blaming it on these other things the they factor in but that's not the core problem one of the things that we keep hearing though of course is that private industry will began to hire if you just give them more money right if you don't raise any of their taxes and if you let the free market have it's away then then businesses will hire and start creating more government jobs but they're not doing that and the thing that nobody wants to talk about is that things have always been inaugurated about five hundred thousand public jobs have been lost and who's going to make up for those yeah that's absolutely right i think that's a major factor in the entire jobs picture that's often overlooked is that the entire conservative prescription for this recovery slashing government slashing government jobs is actually hurting the recovery and making things worse by laying off government workers so for months we've seen a trend where private sector job growth has been positive and public sector just shed jobs last month was the second biggest drop in public sector unemployment in
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the entire time that we've been keeping records of these things so you know we're actually making the economy worse by doing these by implementing these austerity prescriptions and just look at the u.k. i mean there they've implemented this very wide ranging austerity measure and their g.d.p. growth is completely flat their economy is in much worse shape than we have so this conservative agenda is actually bringing us down and it's something that they. choose to fully ignore and never really bring in the u.k. when you have an example of austerity and where does it work but one of the things about the conservative agenda is that even though they came in promising if they were going to focus on jobs jobs jobs it's been all about cuts it's been all about the battle over not wanting to raise the debt ceiling or only wanting to raise of course if you get a large package that comes with it and once again it's come down to talking about taxes and i have something to play for you that senator orrin hatch had to say about you know who really is at fault here for why we're not getting enough revenue and i hear how their citizens caring for the poor and so forth. according to jumps . they also need to share some of the responsibility now we don't want the really
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poor people and we need to have to pay income taxes the fifty one percent of all. and that's going up by the way because of our friend in the white house and his allies i like the afterwards we cut it short but it goes on to say it's really sucks because i like and i would really go after him right now but i like my friend in the white house but really i mean how much revenue do you think is lost because middle class americans or you know lower middle class americans are necessarily paying their income taxes versus the riches or the rich they get to find the loopholes and the largest corporations in this country that used to post to pay zero absolutely i mean the biggest the biggest problems that we're having right now is we're debating this is that's a negotiation or debating what to cut none of that will help create jobs and republicans are absolutely refusing to even address these giant loopholes and in the tax code you know we have corporate tax dodging that's just absolutely
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tremendous and take one loophole the hedge fund losing twenty billion dollars every ten years because hedge fund managers are being taxed in one way when they should be being taxed in another way so i mean and corporations don't need more money they're sitting on something like eight hundred billion dollars in cash and they're not hiring because they don't have any demand for it so giving them more tax breaks giving them money isn't going to solve the problem well let me explain how they could to a very clear path to today as to why one of the options the president thinks is out there that really could help create more jobs to look. at risk in advance trade that will help businesses so more american made goods and services to asia and south america supporting thousands of jobs here at home that could be done right now. and he's talking specifically of course about a trade agreement with south korea here but if you look at the economic policy institute others out there have done studies these kind of trade agreements that don't actually. and of losing jobs for americans yeah i mean it's really you know
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a double edged sword some some sectors of the economy benefit while others don't and certainly you know the kinds of jobs that you're going to be created in other countries because of these free trade agreements you will lose jobs here and you know going back to the republican agenda they're refusing to include money with these trade agreements as they're going through congress that would help retrain people who lose jobs here in america to get them into better paying jobs better train jobs because the you know there will be job losses everyone accepts that but there's a way to deal with that and they're just you know refusing to do it but in any case i mean a trade agreement might help down the road but that's not going to cause any kind of short term benefit for job growth we're talking about you know years decades out and what do you i'm wondering how much americans are going to be willing to take this take this notion that you're just going to have to wait and somewhere down the road it will get better because we hear that of course it might be decades or at least a decade until we get back to what the unemployment number was before the recession
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hit and you know some people are saying that in my case to the point where americans can't take anymore where the wealth disparity is in the sun so great we might see some type of social upheaval and we actually have a sound bite of this as well and you present the other day. i don't want to be a prophet to believe that you don't believe that we're approaching. but i think we're going to slide into contention fights social conflicts social hostility. some forms of radicalism because just going to be a system so that it's not just something you. think is right well i mean i think we're already sort of seeing it with the tea party movement which is you know a backwards response to this problem i would say but i think the motivations behind the tea party were a lot of the same things that but now the tea party movement calmed down because they voted tea partiers in a november that really aren't doing anything and suddenly they've disappeared you don't see tea partiers lining the streets anymore you know well they're actually making it worse and they've been co-opted by the system and now the politicians that they've helped elect that are making the economy worse and making this entire
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situation worse but i think you know as as things get worse people might take to the streets where we've saw it in wisconsin and ohio where the governors went after the public sector unions there and you know i think you're beginning to see a grassroots movement of people really being upset about this but i think it takes educating people because they need to understand what's going on here and that this austerity measures won't solve these i understand unfortunately sometimes they need to be personally hit with it like they were i was confident ohio really realize what's going on and i wonder if obama is screwed at this point for two thousand and twelve because it's not looking good thanks so much for joining us and we will see you later for happy hour thanks so much. well still to come tonight there's been another twist and turn in the wiki leaks that are with credit card companies if you don't update on that when we come back and while congress battles to cut spending and trim but it's the pentagon is about to see their budget increase we're going to be more on that both increased defense and what's to keep.
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stop internet pirates from stealing media for example the contentious bill the protect ip act we spoke about yesterday the sea it seems of hollywood is seen congress as efforts on this matter dwindling so they've just gone directly to the internet service providers themselves to stop piracy yesterday a group of major i as these announce that they were going to create their own system of penalties if they believe that any customers are illegally downloading copyrighted material and in this new system hollywood and our i would contact the p s to determine what files and for information has been pirated and then those companies would issue a series of warnings to their customers and the warnings as of now has been described as being on different levels the first is just a caution area note that a user has been caught stealing now that user doesn't stop the warnings could become more severe ultimately by the fifth of the six warning service providers within slow down internet access and then with almost a crawl now it's clear that this is a new frontier for peace after all
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a year ago we told you how horizon refused to hand over information about a user who a believed it was stealing material or perhaps i don't mean became friends i mean i think it's pretty obvious that they're still trying to figure out where exactly they stand on the piracy issue they want to cooperate with hollywood so they set up these warnings but they're also adamantly have adamantly repeated that they would not shut down a repeat offenders account so where do they stand only time is going to tell how much the eye is really enforce these methods of combating piracy but is this move actually interchange anything or is it just more proof of this unofficial war against cyber stealing is hopeless even internet analyst say of the idea of stopping people from stealing or sharing files sorry but that's just a fantasy congress is desperately attempting to make legislation that earning criticism and i as pieces are making this move just to appease hollywood frankly we all know that internet users aren't going to stop there just to find a way to work around these warnings. now the latest chapter of weiqi leaks versus
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the credit card companies many became hopeful the donations are being permitted once again to the organization in iceland where all the money for wiki leaks flows through reports came out yesterday saying the donations that were once again being transferred to join us on just group and just when everybody thought that maybe visa master card decided to open their big corporate hearts they went right back and close them again it seemed courting to be as it was a mistake the donations are once again open there was no intention to get back cash flowing back to his and his group and visa and mastercard continue to stand by the fact that they will not take part in illegal activities that's a state that they originally made back in december of last year but the massive leak of diplomatic cables gave away many government secrets and as of now week he has been feeling the pain of this monetary protest data shows the organization has lost access to about fifteen million dollars in funding all during the credit card companies blackout so it looks as if the standoff continues wiki leaks versus the
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credit card companies and we reported to you that we can leak has filed a lawsuit against both visa and master card it's going to have to wait and see as to who ends up on top and what's really coming kind of an epic battle in the meantime a science with at least kept a sense of humor about all of this spoofing mastercard as well known commercials. to loosen. the nation's laws to the banking book fifteen million. at a cost to the whole sort of. five hundred thousand dollars. watching the. story so. priceless. now all laughs aside it once was lawsuit gets going i'm very interested to see who the e.u. sides in this battle. and while the financial recovery remains a distance theory of the jobs numbers that we saw today and while congress is focusing on up to three trillion dollars in cuts to many social programs guess what
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today the house easily passed a whopping six hundred and forty nine billion dollars defense budget for the fiscal year two thousand and twelve that's about five hundred thirty billion for the pentagon's primary budget another one hundred and nineteen billion for the wars in afghanistan and iraq and that does not include any downsizing quite the opposite that boosts the pentagon's budget by seventeen billion dollars so that includes five point nine billion to buy thirty two of lockheed martin's after thirty five joint strike fighters fifteen point one billion to build ten navy ships and a three point three billion for twenty eight or boeing's super hornet fighter jets and the whole bill also doesn't include funds for u.s. nuclear weapons programs or military construction which usually come in other bills and end up adding about thirty three billion dollars more of the fence spending so it looks like congress and said sorry america your social security your medicare and medicaid and probably got to go because the pentagon we have more jets here to
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discuss this with me as lawrence wilkerson retired u.s. army colonel and former chief of staff to colin powell all right thanks so much for being on the show as always will gosh this sounds like it's a fun day to be at the pentagon and a really miserable day to be anywhere else in america would you say i don't think so but i think mr panetta gender and they are good news probably somewhere between fifty and a hundred billion dollars a year over the next decade but at least they did which more to do now because let's say of course it still has to go through the senate and congress may pass this in a number of weeks but think about this for a moment last years through school through school years request was seven hundred two point eight billion as i recall we're still talking about about fifty billion beneath what the pentagon said it needed last year we're talking about quite a bit of one hundred one. it said it needed this year but you're right about the congress being absolutely impervious apparently to say maybe the congress is not just in its inexplicably insane when it comes to going after that part of the
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national security establishment that it needs to go after and in your explanation there look at the study that i just purchased from the i.p.s. on the unified national security but we don't look at it in a unified way i would throw the one fifty accounting or two foreign affairs i would throw commerce trust a state operations account at state of there i would throw the nuclear as you do that was through the v.a. as you did i would call homeland security in there we're going to start taking a holistic look at this when you take on holistic look at it as steve clemons pointed out near atlantic monthly three days ago you know how much money we spent since two thousand on a so-called world care about two point six trillion dollars economy jobs that use something like seven million jobs i mean if you just turn it into jobs we could have paid everybody in afghanistan and everybody had record pretty good salary what we've done in terms of the war fighting this has got us all it's got to stop and
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congress has got to come to its things because there are some figures out there is also that say that our wars in iraq and afghanistan have cost us three point seven trillion dollars and counting and that pretty soon that will be up over fortunately i mean it really is is there a modeling it's there it's insane as one congressman said to me when i was testifying before the senate foreign relations committee and almost knock me off my chair it doesn't matter colonel we can print more. and that's the attitude and that's what's been going on now what has been happening is that while they have pretty easily pass and friends the house of representatives there has been a little bit of a tussle and bustle over a few democrats that are coming out and try to block funds trying to talk tie a bomb his hands when it came to afghanistan and bringing troops home of course that is because it has once again tried to tie the president's hands when it came to libya and all of that failed but the one thing that did pass was. bill that barred arming the supplying weapons to training the rebels in libya but already doing that and how it will use it to since it's
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a sidestep it's my clear understanding that one of the reasons for that obama is taking what seems to be a preposterous legal position versus the war powers these new war powers act and the congress is because france and germany and the others but principally those countries are really doing the heavy lifting right now they have the forces on the ground they're using helicopters they're down they are making a difference where it really counts in close to the ground so i don't think this is if even comes to fruition i don't think this is a big injury to the war effort that said i don't understand this as i've said to you before we are in four wars looking for a fifth on various categories curious to see if you understand this next thanks think speaking of sidestepping this something we discussed earlier on the show earlier this week now it seems as if to get around the whole nessie issue of guantanamo bay the president has decided that navy vessels out in international waters are a perfect place to detain people perhaps interrogate them for
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a few months while you build a case do you think about that idea this is nothing new i will admit that it's been sporadic and not very frequent but it's nothing new having to bring on a navy ship to bring it quantico you can do this sort of thing i like the idea that he's defying the congress and this is looking like a wrong call on through if you will the congress say you can't do anything in this foreign policy area and he's going to do it anyway we've legislated you can do it and he's going to do it anyway i like the fact he's bringing this guy back from somalia if you're referring to that individual article three courts because that's where this belongs it does not belong in one trauma mode it does not belong in secret prisons it belongs in the open transparent in our justice system a lot of people can say that also doesn't belong in the military commissions because then you have to prove that you have jurisdiction over this human being and they haven't even told us where they were going to be at which would bring. in a few legal problems but i guess you could say so we also found out that not only did they have this this man who i saw me captured from somalia but they also have
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been watching drone strikes in somalia or did so a number of weeks ago but it's there are they were not alone and drone strike here i'm just curious leave. and i said earlier today when someone asked me this question i said wait a little starts over manhattan or los angeles or houston because that's what's coming we are giving legal standing we are giving practical standing to this strike from the air from unmanned aircraft with people toddle staking ten thousand miles away and to think that china is not developing drones to think that others aren't developing drones that someday are going to be able to do this and there were always going to be able to keep them out of our skies is sheer nonsense we're setting incredible precedence by what we're doing simply because we are at the present time the only one who could do it it's very dangerous i'm going to give me a name there out there i know a country out there in a few weeks and a few minds and i'm sure that we're going to see another report of another country and western lifestyle around it's not i don't doubt it i don't doubt it it's one
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person pose this scenario to me today suppose the arab spring really turns an arab winter the way or david miller has said it is probably going to do suppose these movements such as they are in different countries suddenly stymie and turn into more of a bloodbath and perhaps they are now except syria's looking bad and bad for sports well what what's to say if you gyptian army can't handle the resulting problems for example but someone might not help them that is to say if they can't take care of this or that target that someone like the united states might help them this is just too lucrative a technology and we have such exclusive control over it right now that it seems like it's enticed thing it's it's beguiling we can go in and do it we don't risk our own people we've got ninety percent procedure. we can limit the collateral damage this is too big ali it's not got a legal context to it yet it's not all context to it that's way behind it but we're
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the only ones who can do it this is my power comes out about a barrel of a girl so in the meantime let's just let's use it as much as we can let's exploit the technology for it there are no legal standing and if i remember correctly i think there's about five billion dollars that have been requested for more drone technology over the next you're only going to huge part of the terrorist industrial complex is more formal balls colin powell called it one more addition well. like we said a lot of money could be coming towards the pentagon let's say really does take an extra thanks so much like through. a sort of time tonight presidential candidate to sign up pledge to vanish all born you have learned that and i will sign a ward and the final space flight for enough is underway so what is the end of the shuttle program for space exploration. into a little bit with. google.
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