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where young families are not hesitant about having a senior citizen in their family and where one man's utopia turns into a real village of the shining sun welcome to the gun range and russia close on our. team to watch a let's take a look at the headlines from around the americas the media is going to kids of jeopardizing justice by sentencing suspects before they even set foot in a portrait of the critics a news outlets are acting as judge and jury undermining the fundamentals of the u.s. legal system. egypt's tahrir square sees a tidal wave of protests is in the strongest demonstrations since papers uprisings in iran thinks we're reforms an interim government which they say echoes the news
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you make it out. and two hundred people at least two have died in turkmenistan after a series of explosions local reports say the uninitiated have been robbed the government is planning a violent kids and one would guarantee its. populations are on the move more than ever before and most countries have some kind of headache with migration and huge influx of abandonment and spotlights now discusses russia's place that wouldn't. hello again the welcome to spotlight the interview show on party. day my guest from the show is constantine that i love that it's the flow. to europe has changed the demographics of the old world completely ethnic and cultural profits have made some
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official suggest that the policy of multicultural europe has failed the problem is pretty similar in russia as a growing number of migrants from the former soviet republics come to get what are the russians learning from the european experience or rather heading their own way here's the director of the federal migration service. that it's. easy to publish but the federal migration service say about five million economic migrants come to russia every year many of them come to the country illegally and have qualifications another problem is people coming from regions either speak russian family or don't speak it all together these factors make their integration to russian society difficult or impossible this needs to rising racist anger but they handled the aftermath. he says russia needs these migrants to make up the shortfall in the workforce.
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and on its key thinking for coming to our talk show hello my very first question before we actually start discussing immigration and whether we should try to prevent it or merely regulated is this present day industry developed economies do without migrant labor it all were migrants absolutely indispensable and then he sensing we should take for granted that he would. loads definitely facts of life we can do without migrants who gives migration is movement over world so we large masses of people or smaller groups depending upon economic demands and others economics move people urging them to travel for jobs migration but the migration is a global phenomenon and we cannot ignore it there is an old russian proverb that says fish move to deeper waters and people move for a better life there's nothing you can do about it and definitely if you put
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russia's side while it's still coming to grips with it and take europe the united states and other advanced economies is the peak of migration already over are these economies saturated with migrant labor or will negation rates continue to increase and so if we take france for example same people feel that you can hardly find a true french when there anymore or there are still some they're not easy to spot you know i think that sadly the peak of migration is indeed older than most why sadly because well migration means new influencers i mean trends new money new technologies something new that is brought to your country along with the walk for some of the extra hands and the good minds that come over here. unfortunately the current demographic trends are always worldwide concern that there isn't a jury should plug in some graphic analysis that we also use it's called the family formula it's an average number of grandparents parents and children per family. to
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formally everywhere in the world and that formula tends to be four plus two years plus one in other words for grandparents to parents and a single child in this global trend is telling us that everywhere there will be problems whereas in five years time we are unlikely to experience a shortage of highly qualified. officials turn to three thousand years there might be an under supply of low skilled labor not only in russia but globally review according to the latest world migration report the number of people leaving their own lead in search of better living is growing despite the economic downturn and tougher immigration laws spotlights he limited me there are. never before has the world seen international migration listen largescale as today every
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year sets new records for the number of migrants they now account for three percent of the world population the world migration report says over the us then these the number of migrants increased by more than sixty million the next forty years are going to see the number of migrants double equated growing company by on employment was expected to make foreigners return home but that never happened the u.s. with over food to me when for in residence is the most popular destination worship is among the top ten this the nation's earnings by foreigners account for a massive capital outflow a third of the g q stands g.d.p. comes from the money migrants send back home from russia and it's not only way but migration which is growing more and more people have to be their homes to scape violence the united nations refugee agency reports that the last year more than
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forty three million people became refugees the highest number in fifteen years this year again says floods of refugees forced out of their homes by revolutions in northern africa waves of illegal immigrants coming to europe have been described as a human tsunami. we have just watched a report on the currency. immigration situation and the recent reaction in newark faced with an inflow of refugees from north africa as a result of the arab revolutions shows that the european public is growing ever less tolerant of immigrants. do you think this could be a backlash to some erratic immigration policies pursued by european governments in the past and if so what were the mistakes that. well actually i do think that there have been some mistakes. i'll do my best to
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be careful with my judgments but i think. multiculturalism policies are actually looking at stressing and encouraging differences. to put it simply good to see if you were something to emphasize your ethnic identity or even clothes yes clothes then you should here take a euro that's the basic approach meanwhile i believe you should spend money to raise differences and you should have hardest on promoting integration integration is something meant for those who plan to stay in country for good. i'm sorry to interrupt you but there is an interesting twist you have been spent several decades alone with billions of euros in order to be able to say we are they worse we can be different in still live side by side it is something that the
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soviet union in many of you will by the way but you are suggesting this approach should be replaced by the american model the sensible one but usually. the melting pot thing but come as your but here you must melt into a new society of the future you think this is a more viable option the leaders of france and germany have already acknowledged that multiculturalism is something of a hypo creasy and essentially a mistake that. i don't go for extremes so the notion of a melting pot or anything related somehow casting doesn't really appeal to me as we're talking about people here so i maintain there there is should be case by case approach which it must be more elaborate and sophisticated which but it must be specifically aimed at ending differences that we can mans in disparities and toning down the distinctions so that make people feel uneasy about one another and of
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couple people should be tolerant and understanding each other. i didn't get much i was teller in is a positive thing however i'm going to say something a bit controversial. when you come to france you can be whatever you want you can be totally congolese russian is chemo anything but if you come to britain you're essentially told you must be a brit it doesn't matter what color you are but you must be a brit. what approach do you think would be right for russia to french way or the british way in tell you why they mean a general conceptual approach i realize these are two streams. in principle i guess i'd go with the british model so the point is to preserve the culture of the host country certainly respect the host culture. russia russia. this should be the top priority and there's nothing to be shamed off or me afraid
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that somebody might call you a nationalist. never mind the labels what do you think this is a more viable approach i believe the true line on your heritage and having faith in your country enhances your way tell it. careen forces our nationhood for store and national business and. my father is convinced that one of the reasons this elite union imploded was exactly the absence of a nothing party there was no single integral nation while there was plenty of hyper critical. acclaim in that each ethnic group in the u.s.s.r. has its own culture language territory laws and so on would you agree with that. cylinder which i would in general it's rather true than false but i'll be
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deliberate after all i'm representing the migration service. the federal aviation service is trying to learn some lessons we're wising out from what we see in the west we definitely try to learn. those are sometimes complicated larson supports what we are thinking of and them from for example we have developed a database which so far doesn't have an analogy in a west. it's a database to register foreign nationals in russia and with a show we use it to work with online data and the number of foreign citizens in russia and we know how many of them are in russia and generally what sort of work they two inches per example at this moment russia is hosting about nine point eight million foreigners. that's almost ten million that's right but some say it's just by rights issue difference related with what it is you listen to you're talking to the head of the migration service is someone who works with
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a database of electronic dos years you can do this by the way i demonstrated the system to my european counterparts is then you know it seems to me like the completely understood but you know when you might in any case then criticize it. says constantin about what that of the director of the federal regulation the service of the spotlight will be back sure if we offer a break so stay with us we'll be back there with. second the explosives are used to a deeper than the jurors. heard the remains are removed by machinery.
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british scientists. market. what's really happening to the global economy with cars are there are no holds barred global financial headlines. the report. welcome back to the spotlight i know we're not even just. in the studio today is constrained that of ski director of the russian federal way gratian service and mr raymond honestly we were discussing
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a policy on migrants their country should up in your opinion would you say that there is a government policy in support of your notion that migrants should respect their host culture. but would you say that the government is supporting you. absolutely we are part of the executive branch. weary implementing and government policy this is our main function and there is no doubt about this. and i believe that next year our rafferty's will culminate in the concept for a migration policy. this document. well you guys are working through several stages and sets specific goals and objectives for each department. sent priorities not just for our service but for society as a whole. are goals line year reserve demographics and economics.
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what is your current priority. and that would be anonymous because any goal beginning to economics then. you can only goal in a situation or regulated migration but you know it would be wrong to open our borders weekly and liberalized all migration. and that would be wrong we believe in regulated migration we know that a lot of people just want to come to moscow to stay here and do nothing. but we can have that they become criminals plain and simple that's right you know i really like you your lie. of those officials who recognize a lot of problems that exist in russia and calling people to tackle them. in one of your interviews you admitted that there is a senior phobia in russia but you admit it is great which you go on to say the d n
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a phobia is being inflated deliberately. what would you tell me who in russia would benefit from fueling ethnic tensions besides if you missed politicians with negligible ratings that would be. you know ethnic tensions can be used again benefits. even political benefits. and some dishonest people can use. i mean people who have certain political ambitions but it's just people who have certain political goals. those are people's you. security services should fight. i for one have never heard of an openly intelligent person to be elected to the russian parliament and if so you know how big sentiment remains at street level and in the press media. given that
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why are some people still trying to edit it was that in the world this just means that we are in tune a good job i don't mean myself but rather my colleagues that this means we're able to prevent xena folks from reaching your goal be getting a demon seed who are infiltrating other agencies this means our efforts are using positive results. the quality and qualification of migrant workers who come to russia have a great impact on people's attitudes toward migrants it's one thing when you have construction workers coming into the country and it's a completely different deal if you track people keep a village dancing culture and science. for a long time people thought of russia is a country that attracted unskilled migrants and their federal authorities have been trying to attract better qualified workforce do we see this happening. at the police. you know we adopted a new law
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a year ago because. it's just amendments to the law on foreign citizens legal status and they went into effect the year ago and we have made a very good progress. we have some quite inspiring statistics. last year and we often are registered three thousand people in the last six months of twenty sand they figure for the first six months of this year will be six thousand people bigger permissions to work here for three years not a month not six months or three years you're talking about work permits. yes it's a three year work permit that will allow them to work anywhere in russia it will be able to get a residence permit. and they will get certain benefits it will be easier for their families to come to russia we should over a two thousand family invitations in the past year alone. so nine thousand aspirates plus two thousand family members eleven thousand people who are working
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to van's our economy and they represent an intellectual force currently a large share of the experts we host about twenty percent are employed in trade that's. well i suppose we're learning to trade in other words they're businessmen and craft here's what i find interesting you saying the share of skilled migrants in russia is increasing there are two points of view on migration both of which seem reasonable the first one maintains that migrants are necessary to do the dirty work that local residents don't want to do the second one claims that migrants come to steal their jobs and skilled migrants come to sweep the streets something the muscovites just won't do highly skilled migrants and then they hand come to take our bread from us which of these. two opinions is the correct one or are they both
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right and. they're both right there's one in both kinds of migrants. one thing that some important is that those who come to sweep streets should know which to treat when they're going to sweep that is what we want to warn is flocks of unskilled migrants standing around in places like construction markets already years lol the highway as it is organized around skilled labor force for hire. in when there are no more streets for them to sweep they turn to crime is understandable they have to eat too. so that's right. migration across the seas should be regulated. controlled migration has replaced chaotic migration today what we have to do now is just switch to migration that's efficiently regulated it's going. to cause one of your interviews you said the existing make gratian quarter principle is inefficient and we have to abandon it end of quote what would you have that system replaced
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with companies in for jobs with the russians have to try even harder to find a decent job if those quotas are repealed. he said yeah yeah no i'm talking about something different. russia's small and medium businesses have no way of the fission plea attracting workers today. we understand that small and medium businesses are one of the things that drive our economy as means we have to help our businesses and we can do that while these restrictions remain in place with these restrictions a person has to know what kind of leverage his business will need nine months in advance that's just impossible like you would you can so let's face it we're in favor of controlling labor migration in russia which is good but at the same time i have. just say the rules we impose. and they have to be very simple
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understandable and profitable but it isn't so there is a lot of talk about introducing five year entry visas to russia that get the need does this have anything to do with their three year work permits that you have mentioned in the beginning no you must be referring to a visa regime with e.u. countries. and this has to do you we hear these are pretty regime that we are currently negotiating with the e.u. with the we are working together with our foreign ministry on this issue and of course it's mainly the foreign ministry that is in charge of these negotiations. so we are currently. working on the readmission agreement so there russia e.u. dialogue has been launched and this allows us to resolve issues related to. the visa free regime and labor migration rules and. this fear is very
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promising and we have actually made very good progress on those issues and we believe that a visa free rejean with the european union is possible personal or do you hear you well in other practice there foreigners who is eight in russia would like to see abandoned is a registration today they have to notify their migration agency and get registered every time they move will this procedure ever be abolished or simplified. yes i know what you're talking about in we have actually already need some steps towards states it's no longer a foreign nationals responsibility to get registered it's his employer's responsibility to get him registered with the migration service. so we have simplified these and some other thing. so we are making progress
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yeah and i think that this process is very much related to our dialogue with the european union on a visa free regime and i think we should all trust each other and i think you should we should all try to bring our positions closer together with the discourse about i think your free time the president will thank you very much for being with us in just a reminder that my guest was consenting and i love that the ski director of the federal migration it's just stuff like will be back with more frequent comments on what's going on in bed paul said washington's already stale i'll take him to pick.
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