if you move. from phones to try to shoot these. stunts on t.v. don't come. seven thirty pm in moscow these here are the headlines the latest chapter of the georgian side by side a high profile photographer is in the spotlight as tbilisi uses them of working from moscow georgia claims it's got video evidence to prove their guilt but skeptics say it's part of the government's agenda to boost anti russian stereotype . it's feared hundreds of people have been killed in a blast in turkmenistan but there is confusion a state official say there were no fatalities human rights groups report that an

ammunition depot blew up a government blames of fireworks outside. the owner of the british tabloid accused of hacking into phones of murder victims expected in london to deal with a crisis before the last edition goes to print the number of arrests already made one hundred sixty eight year old paper now faces claims of its metal with evidence . populations more mobile than ever before and countries seem to have some kind of headache with migration be it in words or out words spotlight now discusses russia's place in the global village. hello again the welcome to spotlight the interview show take time today my guest from the show is constantine that i like that it's the flow of economic words to europe has changed the demographics of the old world the police ethnic and cultural

profits have made some official suggest that the policy of multicultural europe has failed the problem is pretty similar in russia as a growing number of migrants from the former soviet what's coming here to work all the russians learning from the european experience or rather getting their own way here's the director of the federal migration service can thank you and i'm glad that most of. the data called this by the federal migration service say about five million economic migrants come to russia every year many of them come to the country illegally and have no qualifications another program is people coming from the regions either speak russian badly or don't speak it all together these factors make their integration to russian society difficult or impossible this needs to rising racist anger but they handled the aftermath constantine ramadan of ski says russia needs these migrants to make up the shortfall in the work force.

and honestly thinking for coming toward talk show i look at my very first question before we actually start discussing integration and whether we should try to prevent it or merely regulated is this present day industry developed economies do without migrant labor at all or are migrants absolutely indispensable and then he sensing we should take for granted that he wouldn't. well it's definitely a fact of life we can do without migrants and use migration is movement over old so we large masses of people or smaller groups depending upon economic demands and others economics move people urging them to travel for jobs and so migration that the migration is a global phenomenon and we cannot ignore it if there is an old russian proverb that says the deeper waters in people move for

a better life there's nothing you can do about it and definitely if you put russia aside for a while is it still coming to grips with that and take europe the early states into other advanced economies is the peak of migration already over are these economies saturated with migrant labor or women gratian rates continue to increase and if we take france for example same people feel that you can hardly find a true french when there anymore or there are still some they're not easy to spot you know i think that sadly pekoe migration is indeed older than most why sadly because well migration means new influencers new transmission money new technologies something new that is brought to your country along with the war course the extra hands and the good minds that come over here. unfortunately the current demographic trends are always worldwide concern that there isn't a jury show blood in some graphic analysis that we also use it's called the family

formula it's an average number of grandparents parents and children per family and with each to formally everywhere in the world that formula tends to be forty plus two you plus one in other words four grandparents two parents and a single child this global trend is telling us that everywhere there will be problems whereas in five years time we are unlikely to experience a shortage of holly qualified. officials turn to fifteen years there might be an under supply of low skilled labor not only in russia but globally again according to the latest world migration report the number of people leaving their own lead in search of better living is growing despite the economic downturn and tougher regulation laws spotlights he limited me that i have. never before has

the world seen international migration in this larger scale as today every year sets new records for the number of migrants they now account for three percent of the world population the world migration record says over the us then he is the number of migrants increased by more than sixty million the next forty years are going to see the number of migrants double the credit crunch accompanied by unemployment was expected to make foreigners return home but that never happened the u.s. with over forty million for in residence is the most popular destination russia is among the top ten this the nation's earnings by foreigners account for a massive capital outflow a third of the town's g.d.p. comes from the minute migrants sent back home from russia and it's not only way but migration which is growing more and more people have to be better homes to skate violence the united nations refugee agency reports that last year more than forty

three million people became refugees the highest number in fifteen years this year again says floods of breath forced out of their homes by revolutions in northern africa waves of illegal immigrants coming to europe have been described as a human tsunami. we have just watched a report on the current. immigration situation and the recent reaction in europe faced with an inflow of refugees from north africa as a result of the arab revolutions shows that the european public is growing ever less tolerant of immigrants. do you think this could be a backlash to some erratic immigration policies pursued by european governments in the past and if so what were the mistakes that.

well actually are do you think that there have been some mistakes. i'll do my best to be careful with my judgments but i think that multiculturalism policies are actually looking at stressing and encouraging differences. to put it simply go to see if you were something to emphasize your ethnic identity or even clothes yes clothes then yes. that's the basic approach meanwhile i believe you should spend money to erase differences and farkas on promoting integration integration is something meant for those who plan to stay in country for good. i'm sorry to interrupt you but there is an interesting twist you have been spent several decades alone with billions of euros in order to be able to say we are day

worse we can be different and still live side by side it is something that the soviet union in many of you will by the way if you are suggesting this approach should be replaced by the american model the sensible one but usually. in the melting pot the nothing part of become is your but here you must melt into a new society of the future you think this is a more viable option the leaders of france and germany have already acknowledged that multiculturalism is sending a high property and essentially a mistake that. i don't go for extremes so the notion of a melting pot or anything related somehow casting doesn't really appeal to me as we're talking about people here so i maintain there should be case by case approach which must be more elaborate and sophisticated which well it must be specifically aimed at ending differences that we demanding disparities and toning down the

distinctions that make people feel uneasy about one another and of course people should be tolerant and understanding each other. when you much. you tell are in is a positive thing however i'm going to say something a bit controversial. when you come to france you can be whatever you want you can be totally. russian is chemo anything but if you come to britain you're essentially told you must be a brit it doesn't matter what color you are but you must be a brit. do you think would be right for russia if french way or the british way then tell you why they mean a general conceptual approach i realize these are two streams. in principle i guess i'd go with the british model so the point is to preserve the culture of the host country certainly respect the host culture. russia russia

her. this should be the top priority and there's nothing to be shamed off or me afraid that somebody might call your nationalist. never mind the labels you think this is a more viable approach i believe the true lying on your heritage and having faith in your country enhanced is your bike tell it see mr green forces are nationhood for stolen yeah national discussions. my father is convinced that one of the reasons this elite unit imploded was exactly the absence of a melting pot there was no single integral nation while there was plenty of hypocritical propaganda that each ethnic group in the u.s.s.r. has it's own culture language territory laws and so on. that. cylinder which i would in general that's rather true than false but i'll be

deliberate after all i'm representing the migration service. the federal immigration service is trying to learn some lessons we're wising out and from what we see in the west we definitely try to learn. those are sometimes complicated lessons reports we are picking up and down from for example we have developed a database which so far doesn't have an analogy in a west and from it's a database to register foreign nationals in russia we use it to work with online data on the number of foreign citizens in russia we know how many of them are in russia and generally what sort of work they do yes pretty sample at this moment russia is hosting about nine point eight million foreigners. that's almost ten million that's right but some say it's just why such a big difference can relate to a food if you listen when you're talking to the head of the migration service is

someone who works with a database trying to dos years little by the way i demonstrated this system to my european counterparts is then you know it seems to me like the completely understood that when you when you in any case you then criticize it. says constantin about what that of the director of the federal regulation the service of the spotlight will be back shortly after a break so stay with us we'll be back there. spending the. journalist i saw some ways to go in the u.s. contractors there's kind of wasting their time trying to get killed.

i thought a lot willing to give police the life and in my. view to keep the twenty seven days in new killings of publicising people invited the monkey i think the whole fleet speaking people started the beat of a dialogue just. changing the way the sleazy states. first cream in the cold called a clear cut. second explosives are used to blast him a deeper than the still. hurt the remains are machinery.

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if. welcome back to the spotlight i would love in just the room. in the studio today is constantin the ski director of the russian federal service and.

we were discussing the policy on migrants their country should it up in your opinion and the question would you say there is a government policy in support of your notion that migrants should respect the host culture. but would you say that the government is supporting you. absolutely we are part of the executive branch this is weary implementing and government policy this is our main function yes there is no doubt about this. and i believe that the next two years are afeard some will culminate in the concept for a migration policy. in this document. well unity but are working through several stages and set specific goals and objectives for each department. sent priorities not just for our services but for society as a whole. our goals line year reserve demographics and you can on its.

look at what is your current priority. and that would be k'naan excess because it is a gold bikini if economics then. konami goal in a situation or regulated migration is yes you know it would be wrong to open our borders completely and liberalized all migration. that would be wrong we believe in regulated migration issue we know that a lot of people just want to come to moscow to stay here and do nothing. but we can't have that they become criminals plain and simple that's right you know i really like you. no those officials recognize a lot of problems that exist in russia and calling people to tackle them but. in one of your interviews you admitted that there is a senior foley in russia that you admit it is great which you go on to say the d n

a phobia is being inserted deliberately. what would you tell me who in russia would benefit from fueling ethnic tensions besides extremist politicians with negligible ratings that would be sponsored. you know ethnic tensions can be used again benefits. even political benefits. and some dishonest people can use. i mean people who have certain political ambitions but if you scare people who have certain political goals just so you know those are people who are security services should fight. i for one have never heard of an openly intelligent person to be elected to the russian parliament and if you have extensive and remains at street level and in the press media of police given that

why are some people still trying to enter it as it well this just means that we are doing a good job i don't mean myself but rather my colleagues this means we are able to prevent a zener folks from reaching your goal getting into missy who are infiltrating other agencies this means our efforts are using positive results. the quality and qualification of migrant workers who come to russia have a great impact on people's attitudes toward migrants it's one thing when you have construction workers coming into the country and it's a completely different deal if you attract people keep a bill of advancing culture and science. for a long time even thought of russia as a country that attracted unskilled migrants and that federal authorities have been trying to attract better qualified workforce do we see this happening.

you know we adopted a new lawyer. just amendments to the law on foreign citizens legal status and they went into a fair two year ago and we have made a very good progress that we have some quite inspiring statistics. last year and we often are registered three thousand people in the last six months or twenty sam they figure for the first six months of this year will be six thousand people bigger permissions to work here for three years not a month not six months or three years you're talking about work permits. yes it's a three year work permit that will allow them to work anywhere in russia they will be able to get a residence permit. they will get certain benefits it will be easier for their families to come to russia we should over a two thousand family invitations in the past year alone. so nine thousand

experts plus two thousand family members makes eleven thousand people who are working to bent's our economy. and they represent an intellectual force currently a large share of the experts we host about twenty percent are employed in trade as . well i suppose we're learning to trade in other words they're businessmen correct here's what i find interesting you saying the share of skilled migrants in russia is increasing there is your point of view and migration both of which seem reasonable difference one maintains that migrants are necessary to do the dirty work that local residents don't want to do the second one claims that migrants come to steal their jobs and skilled migrants come to sweep the streets something the muscovites just won't do highly skilled migrants and then they come to take our bread from us which of these. two opinions is the correct one or are they both

right and. they're both right when both kinds of migrants. one thing that's important is that those who come to sweep streets should know which tree they're going to sweep is what you want to ward is flock so on skilled migrants standing around in places like construction markets already or slow highway as it is organized on skilled labor force for hire. anyone there are no more streets for them to sweep they turn to crime is understandable they have to eat to. migration processes should be regulated. controlled migration has replaced chaotic migration to the what we have to do now is to switch to migration that's efficiently regulated it's going. to cause one of your interviews you said the existing made gratian quota principle is inefficient and we have to abandon it end

of quote what would you have that system replaced with. for jobs with the russians have to train harder to find a decent job if those quotas are repealed. he said yeah yeah good you know what i'm talking about something different. brushes small and medium businesses have no way of the fish and only attracting workers today is what we understand that small and medium businesses are one of the things that drive our economy and this means we have to help our businesses and we can't do that while these restrictions remain in place when these are search ends a person has to know what kind of lever his business will need nine months in advance let's just impossible it would you can so let's face it we're in favor of controlling labor migration in russia which is good while at the same time i have. to say the rules we impose. and they have to be very simple and

understandable but they can practice a bill that isn't. there is a lot of talk about introducing five year n.-g. visas to russia that the media does this have anything to do with their three year work permits that you have mentioned. no you must be referring to a visa regime with e.u. countries. and this has to do you we believe these are pretty regime that we are currently negotiating with the e.u. with the good of what we're working together with our foreign ministry on this issue and of course it's mainly to foreign ministry that is in charge of these negotiations. so we are currently. working on the readmission agreement there russia e.u. dialogue has been launched and then this allows us to resolve issues related to. the visa free regime and labor migration and. this fear is very

promising and we have actually need very good progress on those issues and we need that it means if we rejean with the european union it's possible personally i do. hear you well another practice that foreigners who is that in russia would like to see abandoned is registration today they have to notify the migration agency and get registered every time they move will this procedure ever be abolished or simplified. yes i know what you're talking about in we have actually already need some steps towards states it's no longer a foreign nationals responsibility to get registered but it's his employer's responsibility to get him registered with the migration service. so we have simplified these and some other thing. so we are making progress

and i think that this process is very much related to our dialogue with the european union on a visa free regime and i think we should all trust each other and i think you should we should all try to bring our positions closer together and was it is possible i think your free time the president will thank you very much for being with us in just a reminder that my guest was constrained to what i meant that the ski director of the federal migration it's just it's not like the movie back with more face than comments on the what's going on in said washington's already play out how to end it he picked.

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