on the good. video on demand. of mine. with the palm of your. pushing. around the world twenty four seven from central moscow this is our team these are our top stories tonight in the latest chapter of the georgian spy saga high profile photographers are in the spotlight now as tbilisi accuses them of working for moscow georgia claims it's got video evidence to prove their guilt but skeptics say it's part of the government's agenda to boost anti russian hysteria. it's fear hundreds of people have been killed in a blast in turkmenistan but there is confusion because state officials say there were no fatalities people rights groups are reporting that

a munitions factory blew up but the government's planning a fireworks accident. and the owner of the british tabloid accused of hacking into the phones of murder victims is heading to london to take charge of the escalating crisis as police make arrests news of the world is now facing claims it's meddled with evidence says it's fun the patient goes to prison. i'm kevin now in fact for being with us tonight of about with more news in full through thirty minutes time from moscow before that though how the arab influx into you would have further strained its multicultural credentials and whether russia faces a similar conundrum spotlight is on here. hello again the welcome to spotlight the interview show take time today my guest from the show is constantine that i love that it's the flow of words to europe has

changed the demographics of the old world the police ethnic and cultural prophets have made some official suggest that the policy of multicultural europe has failed the problem is pretty similar in russia as a growing number of migrants from the former soviet republics come here to what are the russians learning from the european experience or rather heading their own way here's the director of the federal migration service. that it's. easy to publish by the federal immigration service a million economic migrants come to russia every year many of them come to the country illegally and have no qualifications another problem is people coming from the region either speak russian badly or don't speak it all together these factors make their integration to russian society difficult or impossible this leads to rising racist anger but they handle the aftermath. he says russia needs these

migrants to make up the shortfall in the workforce. and honestly thinking for coming toward talk show hello my very first question before we actually start discussing immigration and whether we should try to prevent it or merely regulated is this present day industry developed economies do without migrant labor at all were migrants absolutely indispensable and then he sensing we should take for granted that he wouldn't. well it's definitely a fact of life we can do without migrants games migration needs movement overalls will be large masses of people or smaller groups depending upon economic demands and the sheer economics move people urging them to travel for jobs weekends migration but the migration is a global phenomenon and we cannot ignore it there is an old russian proverb that

says the deeper waters and people move for a better life there's nothing you can do about it and definitely if you put russia aside for a while as it's still coming to grips with that and take europe the united states and other advanced economies is the biggest migration already over are these economies saturated with migrant labor or will negation rates continue to increase and so if we take france for example same people feel that you can hardly find a true french when there anymore or there are still some they're not easy to spot you know i think that sadly kiko migration is indeed older than most why sadly because well migration means new influencers and you transfer money and you technology use something new that is brought to your country along with the war course the extra hands and the good minds that come over here. unfortunately the current demographic trends are always worldwide concern that there isn't a jury show plug in some graphic analysis that we also use it's called the family

formula it's an average number of grandparents parents and children per family and . everywhere in the world that formula tends to be forty plus two plus one in other words four grandparents two parents and a single child in this global trend is telling us that everywhere there will be problems that michael ware is in five years' time we are unlikely to experience a shortage of holly qualified. officials turn to fifteen years there might be an under supply of low skilled labor not only in russia but globally the year according to the latest world migration report the number of people leaving their out lead in search of better living is growing despite the economic downturn and tougher aggression spotlights he had. never

before has the world seen international migration listen largescale as today every year sets new record for the number of migrants they now account for three percent of the world population the world migration report says the us then he is the number of migrants increased by more than sixty million in the next forty years are going to see the number of migrants double the credit crunch accompanied by an employment was expected to make foreigners return home but that never happened the u.s. with over forty million for in residence is the most popular destination russia is among the top ten destinations earnings by foreigners account for a massive capital outflow a third of the g q stands g.d.p. comes from the minute migrants send back home from russia and it's no the new labor migration which is growing more and more people have to be their homes to skate

violence the united nations refugee agency reports that last year more than forty three million people became refugees the highest number in fifteen years this year again says lots of refugees forced out of their homes by revolutions in northern africa waves of illegal immigrants coming to europe have been described as a human tsunami. we have just watched a report on the currency. immigration situation and the recent reaction in newark faced with an inflow of refugees from north africa as a result of the arab revolutions shows that the european public is growing ever less tolerant of immigrants. do you think this could be a backlash to some erratic immigration policies pursued by european governments in the past and if so what were the mistakes that.

well actually i do think that there have been some mistakes. i'll do my best to be careful with my judgments but i think that multiculturalism policies are actually good at stressing and encouraging differences. to put it simply go to see if you were something to emphasize your ethnic identity even codes yes clothes then. that's the basic approach meanwhile i believe you should spend money to erase differences and you should have hardest on promoting integration integration is something meant for those who plan to stay in country for a good. look. i'm sorry to interrupt you but there is an interesting twist you have been spent several decades alone with billions of euros in order to be

able to say we are they worse we can be different in still live side by side it is something that the soviet union in many of you will by the way but you are suggesting this approach should be replaced by the american model the sensible one but usually it's the nelson part the nothing part is your but here you must melt into a new society of the future you think this is a more viable option the leaders of france and germany have already acknowledged that multiculturalism is something of a high property and essentially a mistake that. i don't go for extremes so the notion of a melting pot or anything related casting doesn't really appeal to me as we're talking about people here so i maintain there should be case by case approach which must be more elaborate and sophisticated which but it must be specifically aimed at ending differences that we can manage in disparities and toning down the

distinctions that make people feel uneasy about one another of course people should be tolerant and understanding. it when you watch. telly or in is a positive thing however i'm going to say something a bit controversial. when you come to france you can be whatever you want you can be totally. russian is chemo anything but if you come to britain you're essentially told you must be a brit it doesn't matter what color you are but you must be a brit. what approach do you think would be right for russia the french way or the british way been tell you i mean a general consensual approach i realize these are two streams. in principle i guess i'd go with the british model so the point is to preserve the culture of the host country certainly respect the host culture. russia russia.

this should be the top priority and there's nothing to be shamed off or me afraid that somebody might call your nationalist. never mind the labels you think this is a more viable approach i believe the true lying on your heritage and having faith in your country any chances your way tells me mr green forces are nationhood for store and yet national discourse and. my father is convinced that one of the reasons this elite union imploded was exactly the absence of a melting pot there was no single integral nation while there was plenty of hypocritical propaganda that each ethnic group in the us has or has its own culture language. laws and so on would you agree with that what i did was i wasn't.

still and i would in general it's rather true than false but i'll be deliberate after all i'm representing the migration service. the federal immigration service is trying to learn some lessons we're wising out from what we see in the west we definitely try to learn. those are sometimes complicated lessons reports we are picking up and down from for example we have developed a database which so far doesn't have an analogy in a west it's a database to register foreign nationals in russia we use it to work with online data and the number of foreign citizens in russia hopefully we know how many of them are in russia and generally what sort of work they do says yes pretty sample at this moment russia is hosting about nine point eight million foreigners. that's almost ten million that's right but some say it's just but why such

a difference because it was listen you're talking to the head of the migration service is someone who works with a database of elop trani boss years your own admission by the way i demonstrated this system to my european a counter courts used and you know it seems to me like the completely understood that. in any case they didn't criticize it. says constantin about what that a ski director of the federal ration service of the spotlight will be back shortly after a break so stay with us we'll be back there with. spending the year in iraq is not a true journalist so some ways to go in u.s. contractors there's kind of wasting their time trying to get killed for you.

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welcome to spotlight imo we're not just. in the studio today is constrained. director of the russian federal my gracious service who threw me out of school we were discussing the policy on migrants that our country should adopt and your opinion would you say there is a government policy in support of your notion that migrants should respect the host culture. but would you say that the government is supporting you. absolutely we are part of the executive branch this is weary implementing and government policy this is our main function there is no doubt about this. and i believe that naps cheer our afterwards will culminate any concept for a migration policy. this document. well if you buy it are working

through several stages and set specific goals and objectives for each department. so priorities not just for our service but for society as a whole. our goals line your resolve demographics and economics. what is your current priority. and that would be konami economy and goal beginning to economics then. you can only goal in a situation or regulated migration that you know it would be wrong to open our borders completely and liberalized all migration. that would be wrong we believe in a regulated migration should we know that a lot of people just want to come to moscow to stay here and do nothing but watch what we can have that they become criminals plain and simple that's right you know

i really like you. no those officials who recognize a lot of problems that exist in russia and poland people to tackle them. in one of your interviews you admitted that there is a phobia in russia that you admit it is great which you go on to say that in a phobia is being incited deliberately in that weather was what it was that would you tell me who in russia would benefit from appealing ethnic tensions besides extremist televisions with a negligible ratings that would be supplied. you know ethnic tensions can be used to gain benefits that you immediately even political democrats. and some dishonest people can use to. i mean people who have certain political ambitions but it's just people who have certain political goals just so you know those are of people's you. security

services should fight. for one have never heard of an openly intelligent person to be elected to the russian parliament and it's sentiment remains a street level and in the press media given that why are some people still trying to educate it was that this just means that we are in tune a good job i don't mean myself but you were my colleagues and this means that we're able to prevent as you know folks from reaching your goal be getting into missy who are infiltrating other agencies misreads our efforts are using positive results. the quality and qualification of migrant workers who come to russia have a great impact on people's attitudes toward migrants it's one thing when you have construction workers coming into the country and it's a completely different deal if you check people keep ability dancing culture and science. for a long time people thought of russia as

a country that attracted unskilled migrants. you should federal authorities have been trying to attract better qualified workforce do we see this happening. police wouldn't. you know we adopted a new law year ago. actually it's just a man amounts to the law on foreign citizens legal status and they went into a thirty year ago and we have made very good progress with that used to we have some quite inspiring statistics. last year and we awful are registered three thousand people in the last six months of twenty seven the figure for the first six months of this year will be six thousand people bigger permissions to work here for three years not a month not six months or three years you're talking about work permits. yes it's earth reader work permit that will allow them to work anywhere in russia

they will be able to get a residence permit and they will get certain tax benefits it will be easier for their families to come to russia we should over a two thousand family invitations in the past year alone which so nine thousand aspirants plus two thousand family members some leaks eleven thousand people who are working to them our economy and they represent an intellectual force currently a large share of the experts we host about twenty percent are employed in trade it's. well i suppose we're learning to trade you know their words they're businessmen correct here's what i find interesting you saying the sheer skilled migrants in russia is increasing there is your point of view on migration both of which seem reasonable if one maintains that migrants are necessary to do the dirty

work that local residents don't want to do the second one claims that migrants come to steal their jobs and skilled migrants come to sweep the streets something the muscovites just won't do highly skilled migrants and then they come to take our bread from us which of these. two opinions is the correct one or are they both right and. they're both right when both kinds of migrants. one thing that's important is that those who come to sweep streets should know which to treat when they're going to sweep what you want to ward is flocks of unskilled migrants standing around in places like construction markets already or slow the highway as it is organized on skilled labor force for hire. and when there are no more streets for them to sweep they turn to crime centers then it will the efi to. that's right but. the migration process is should be regulated. controlled migration has

replaced chaotic migration to the what we have to do now is to switch to migration but that's deficient plea regulated. because one of your interviews you said the existing make racial quota principle is inefficient and we have to abandon it end of quote what would you have that system replaced with companies in for jobs with the russians have to train harder to find a decent job if those quotas are repealed. he said. no i'm talking about something different. rush's small and medium businesses have no way of the officially attracting workers today. we understand that small and medium businesses are one of the things that drive our economy this means we have to help our businesses and we can do there while these restrictions remain in place with

these restrictions a person has to know what kind of leverage his business will need nine months in advance that's just impossible. so let's face it we're in favor of controlling labor migration in russia while at the same time i have. just say that the rules we impose were that would you please they have to be very simple and understandable and proper civil he it isn't so there is a lot of talk about introducing five year n.-g. visas to russia that it does this have anything to do with their three year work permits that you have mentioned in the beginning no you must be referring to these a regime with e.u. countries. and this has to do you we did these are pretty regime that we are currently negotiating with the e.u. with the we are working together with our foreign ministry on this issue and of course it's mainly the foreign ministry that is in charge of these negotiations.

so we are currently push it working on the readmission agreement so there russia e.u. dialogue has been launched and this allows us to resolve issues related to. the visa free regime and labor migration and with. this fear is very promising and we have actually made very good progress on those issues that we give believe that a visa for you again with the european union is possible personal or do you hear you well another practice that foreigners who is that in russia would like to see at the end is it registration today they have to notify the migration agency and get registered every time they move will this procedure ever be abolished or simplified. yes i know what you're talking about and we have actually already need some steps towards states it's no longer

a foreign nationals responsibility to get registered but it's his employer's responsibility to get him registered with the migration service. so we have simplified these and some other thing. so we are making progress on the end but i think that this process is very much related to our dialogue with the european union on a visa free regime and i think we should all trust each other and i think you should we should all try to bring our positions closer together in place because basically i think our free time that i will think you very much for being with us in just a reminder that my guest was constrained to what i'm about to ski got rector of the federal pride racial slur. spotlight will be back with more for some comments on what's going on in bed paul said washington's a rent player i'll take him to pick. bison.