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i know what's really happening to the global economy with my ex cons are there are no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cars report. for the full story we've got it for. the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers. broadcasting live or direct from the heart of russia's travel to moscow this is r.t. i'm sean thomas certainly glad to have you with us let's take a live picture of. tbilisi accuses three georgian photojournalists including president saakashvili personal photographer of spying for russia it's alleged the men possessed secret information and have now been charged with espionage after reportedly confessing on the video. turkmen officials remain tight lipped over reports that at least two hundred people have been killed in the blast at an arms
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depot in the city at all but on human rights groups say electricity and water supplies have also been disrupted. and rupert murdoch heads it to the u.k. to take charge of a phone hacking crisis that's threatening to engulf his media empire the scandal has reached the highest levels of government after a former editor who worked for prime minister david cameron was arrested on friday . while some european politicians are claiming that the idea of multiculturalism has failed as the director of the russian federal migration service if the same is true in russia spotlight is next right here on r.t. .
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hello again the welcome to spotlight the interview show on heartache. today my guest from the show is constancy in that i love that it's the flow. to europe has changed the demographics of the old world the. ethnic and cultural prophets have made some official suggest that the policy of multicultural europe has failed the problem is pretty similar in russia as a growing number of migrants from the former soviet republics what are the russians learning from the european experience or rather heading their own way here's the director of the federal migration service kind of thank you and i'm glad that it's . easy to publish by the federal migration service a million economic migrants come to russia every year many of them come to the
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country illegally and have. another problem is people coming from. either speak russian family or don't speak it all together these factors make their integration to russian society difficult or impossible this needs to rising racist anger. he says russia needs to make up the shortfall in the workforce. that's key thank you for coming to our talk show hello my dear your first question before we actually start discussing integration and whether we should try to prevent it or merely regulated is this present day industry developed economies do without migrant favorite all were migrants absolutely indispensable and then we should take for granted that he wouldn't. well it's a definite slow fact of life we can do without migrants games migration is the
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movement of world so we large masses of people or smaller groups depending on economic demands and the economics move people urging them to travel for jobs migration but the migration is a global phenomenon and we cannot ignore it there is an old russian proverb that says the deeper waters and people move for a better life there's nothing you can do about it definitely if you put russia aside for a while as it's still coming to grips with that and take europe the united states and other advanced economies is the peak of migration already over are these economies saturated with migrant labor organization rates continue to increase and so if we take france for example some people feel that you can hardly find a true friendship in there anymore where there are still some they're not easy to spot you know i think that sadly the peak of migration is indeed over why sadly because well migration means new influencers and you transfer new money new
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technologies something new that is brought to your country along with a walk for some of the extra hands and the good minds that come over here. unfortunately the current demographic trends arose worldwide concern that there isn't a jury show blood in some graphic analysis that we also use it's called the family formula it's an average number of grandparents parents and children per family. before only to see everywhere in the world that formula tends to be four plus two you plus one in other words four grandparents two parents and a single child in this global trend is telling us that everywhere there will be problems whereas in five years time we are unlikely to experience a shortage of holly qualified. officials turn to fifteen years there might be an
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under supply of low skilled labor not only in russia but globally. according to the latest world migration report the number of people leaving their home and in search of better living is growing despite the economic downturn and tougher aggression laws spotlights he limited me there are more. never before has the world seen international migration listen largescale as today every year sets new record for the number of migrants they now account for three percent of the world population the world migration report says a we do understand he is the number of migrants increased by more than sixteen million the next forty years are going to see the number of migrants double the credit crunch accompanied by unemployment was expected to make foreigners return home but that never happened the u.s. with over forty million for in residence is the most popular destination russia is
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among the top ten this the nation's earnings by foreigners account for massive capital outflow a third of the g q stands g.d.p. comes from the minute migrants send back home from russia and it's not only way but migration which is growing more and more people have to leave their homes to escape violence the united nations refugee agency reports that the last year more than forty three million people became refugees the highest number in fifteen years this year again says floods of bread few forced out of their homes by revolutions in northern africa waves of illegal immigrants coming to europe have been described as a human tsunami. scrutiny. we have just watched a report on the currency. immigration situation and the recent reaction in newark faced with an inflow of refugees from north africa as
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a result of the arab revolutions shows that the european public is growing ever less tolerant of immigrants. do you think this could be a backlash to some erratic immigration policies pursued by european governments in the past and if so what were the mistakes that. well actually i do think that there have been some mistakes. i'll do my best to be careful with my judgments but i think. multiculturalism policies are natural looking at stressing and encouraging differences. to put it simply to go to see if you were something to emphasize your ethnic identity or even clothes yes clothes and then here take a euro that's the basic approach meanwhile i believe you should spend money to
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raise differences and you should have hardest on promoting integration integration is something meant for those who plan to stay in country for a good cause and. i'm sorry to interrupt you but there is an interesting twist you have been spent several decades alone with billions of euros in order to be able to say we are they worse we can be different in still live side by side it is something that the soviet union in many of you will by the way but you're suggesting this approach should be replaced by the american model the sensible one but usually to me the melting pot the nothing part the become is your but here you must melt into a new society of the future you think this is a more viable option the leaders of france and germany have already acknowledged that multiculturalism is something of a hypo creasy and essentially a mistake that. i don't go for extremes so the notion of
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a melting pot or anything related somehow casting doesn't really appeal to me as we're talking about people here so i maintain there there is should be case by case approach which it must be more elaborate and sophisticated but it must be specifically aimed at ending differences that we can manage in disparities and toning down the distinctions so that make people feel uneasy about one another and of course people should be tolerant and understanding how we chartered. i didn't google it pretty much i was teller in is a positive thing however i'm going to say something a bit controversial. when you come to france you can be whatever you want you can be totally congolese russian is chemo anything but if you come to britain you're essentially told you must be a brit it doesn't matter what color you are but you must be
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a brit. what approach do you think would be right for russia in french way or the british way in tell you why they mean a general conceptual approach i realize these are two streams. in principle i guess i'd go with the british model so the point is to preserve the culture of the host country certainly respect the host culture. russia russia. this should be the top priority and there's nothing to be shamed off or heard me afraid that somebody might call you a nationalist. never mind the labels what do you think this is a more viable approach i believe the true line on your heritage and having faith in your country any chances your way tell it to careen forces are nationhood store. national business and i think my father is convinced that one of the reasons the soviet union imploded was exactly the absence of
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a melting pot there was no single integral nation while there was plenty of hypercritical pressure again there are claiming that each ethnic group in the u.s.s.r. has its own culture language territory laws and so on would you agree with that. so and bush i would in general it's rather true than false but i'll be deliberate after all i'm representing the migration service. the federal immigration service is trying to learn some lessons we're wising up from what we see in the west we definitely try to learn. those are sometimes complicated lessons supports we are speaking up and down you from for example we have developed a database which so far doesn't have an analogy in a west. it's a database to register foreign nationals in russia was we use it to work with online data and the number of foreign citizens in russia are pretty and we know how
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many of them are in russia and generally what sort of work they do and she has pretty sample at this moment russia is hosting about nine point eight million foreigners. that's almost ten million that's right but some say it's just such a difference. listen when you're talking to the head of the migration service he's someone who works with a database of electronic dos years you can do this by the way i demonstrated their system to my european counterparts use the end you know it seems to me like the completely understood that but you know when you mine many case and then criticize it. says constantin about what that a ski director of the federal regulation the service of the spotlight will be back shortly after the break so stay with us we'll be back there with.
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feel. the litmus tests . just say. see. him in.
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a mug. see. today violence is once again fled the scene these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada asked some operations are the tests. to see. welcome back to the spotlight i mulled it over in just the room. in the studio today is constantin the ski director of the russian federal regulation service and the mystery madonna asking we were discussing
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a policy on migrants that our country should adopt and your opinion of would you say there is a government policy in support of your notion that migrants should respect the host culture. but would you say that the government is supporting you. absolutely we are part of the executive branch this is weary implementing and government policy this is our main function there is no doubt about this. and i believe the next two years all rafferty's will culminate any concept for a migration policy. this document. will need you but are working through several stages and serve specific goals in a chair to school for each department seems you would set priorities not just for our service but for society as a whole. our goals line myriads of demographics and you can on ics
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look at what is your current priority. and that would be going on it's because a goal pertaining to economics then one economic goal in a situation or regulated migration is yes you know it would be wrong to open our borders completely and liberalized all migration. but that would be wrong we believe in regulated migration issue we know that a lot of people just want to come to moscow to stay here and do nothing but watch what we can have that they become criminals plain and simple that's right you know i really like you be. or one of those officials who recognize a lot of problems that exist in russia and poland people who tackled them. in one of your interviews that there is a senior fully in russia that you admit it is great which you go on to say that in
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a phobia is being insulted deliberately and. what would you tell me who in russia would benefit from fueling ethnic tensions besides extremist politicians with negligible ratings because that would be its own. you know ethnic tensions can be used again benefits you even political benefits. and some dishonest people can use. i mean people who have certain political ambitions richest people who have certain political goals so you know those are people's you on the. security services should find it will never know which. i for one have never heard of an openly intelligent person to be elected to the russian parliament and so you have extensive and remains at street level and in the press media given that why are
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some people still trying to enter it it was like that well this just means that we are doing a good job i don't mean myself but rather my colleagues that this means we are able to prevent the zener folks from reaching their goal beat getting a duma seat who are infiltrating other agencies this means our efforts are using positive results so. the quality and qualification of migrant workers who come to russia have a great impact on people's attitudes toward migrants it's one thing when you have construction workers coming into the country and it's a completely different deal if you attract people keep a bit of a dancing culture and science. for a long time people thought of russia is a country that attracted unskilled migrants and their federal authorities have been trying to attract better qualified workforce do we see this happening. pretty.
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you know we adopted a new lawyer a girl is actually. just amendments to the law on foreign citizens legal status and they went into a thirty year ago and we have made a very good progress that we have some quite inspiring statistics. last year and we awful registered three thousand people in the last six months of twenty sand the figure for the first six months of this year will be six thousand people they've got permissions to work here for three years not a month not six months or three years you're talking about work permits. yes it's a three year work permit that will allow them to work anywhere in russia they will be able to get a residence permit. they will get certain tax benefits it will be easier for their families to come to russia we should over a two thousand family mutations in the past year alone. so nine thousand
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experts plus two thousand family members makes eleven thousand people who are working to do then our economy economy and they represent an intellectual force currently a large share of the experts we host about twenty percent are employed in trade it's. well i suppose we're learning to trade in other words they're businessmen correct here's what i find interesting you saying the share of skilled migrants in russia is increasing and it's a point of view on migration both of which seem reasonable the first one maintains that migrants are necessary to do the dirty work that local residents don't want to do the second one claims that migrants come to steal their jobs and skilled migrants come to sweep the streets something the muscovites just won't do highly skilled migrants and then they come to take our bread from us which of these. two opinions is the correct one or are they both right. there both are and when both
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kinds of migrants. one thing that's important is that those who come to sweep streets should know which the creed when they're going to sweep this one who wants to work is flocks around skilled migrants standing around in places like construction markets already or slow highway as it is organized unskilled labor force for hire. then when there are no more streets for them to sweep they turn to crime is understandable they have to eat to. migration processes should be regulated. controlled migration has replaced chaotic migration today so what we have to do now is just switch to migration that's efficiently regulated. to quote one of your interviews you said the existing may gratian quota principle is inefficient and we have to abandon it end of quotes and what would you
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have that system replaced with companies in for jobs where the russians have to train harder to find a decent job they have those quotas they repealed. you. know what i'm talking about something different. brushes small and medium businesses have no way of officially attracting workers today. we understand that small and medium businesses are one of the things that drive our economy this means we have to help our businesses and we can do that while these restrictions remain in place with these restrictions a person has to know what kind of lever his business will need nine months in advance that's just impossible. so let's face it we are in favor of controlling labor migration in russia which is good while at the same time i have. just say that the rules we impose. and they have to be very simple
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understandable and practiced civil. so there is a lot of talk about introducing five year n.-g. visas to russia that does this have anything to do with their three year work permits that you have mentioned. no you must be referring to a visa regime with e.u. countries. and this has to do you we these are pretty regime that we are currently negotiating with the e.u. with the what we're working together with our foreign ministry on this issue and of course it's mainly to foreign ministry that is in charge of these negotiations. so we are currently. working on a new yury of mission agreement there russia e.u. dialogue has been launched and this allows us to resolve issues related to. the visa free regime and labor migration and. this fear is very
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promising that and we have actually mean very good progress on those issues and we believe that he's a free rejean with the european union with some personal or do you hear you well another practice that foreigners who is that in russia would like to see it end and is it registration today they have to notify the migration agency and get registered every time they move will this procedure ever be abolished or simplified . yes i know what you're talking about you know we have actually already need some staff stored status it's no longer a foreign nationals responsibility to get registered it's his employer's responsibility to get him registered with the migration service. so we have simplified these and some other thing. so we are making progress
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and i think that this process is very much related to our dialogue with the european union on a visa free regime i think we should all trust each other and i think you should we should all try to bring our positions closer together and. i think that i will thank you very much for being with us in just a reminder that my guest was constrained to what i love that he directs the federal migration. will be back with more. of what's going on in. washington. i'll take him he.
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