tv [untitled] July 12, 2011 6:00pm-6:30pm EDT
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but i can be alone to show you the real headlines with none of the mercy for me live in washington d.c. now and i will get details on julian assange just latest appeal from extradition to sweden well the chances are. also take a look at the latest developments and relations ahmed wali karzai being assassinated the u.s. cutting some aid from pakistan we're going to ask all of that means for now longest war and a new piece of legislation in congress sounds like it's going to save your kids
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from child pornographers but is a really just a mask for a massive move to force eye is pleased to record your data and take away your privacy julian sanchez is going to join us on that when we have all of that and more for you tonight including a dose of happy hour first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to make. now if you hadn't noticed yet it's summer it's mid july depending on where you live you probably have at least another two months of warm weather to enjoy unless of course you live in california my former home and you get to enjoy perfect weather all year long and get a little better about not no longer getting to enjoy that weather but the point here is that it's summer and what do you know what happens during the summer. it gets hot temperatures rise you should wear shorts drink water wear your sunscreen check your local news the weather channel weather dot com if you really care to get an exact date but this summer the national news the anger's of news hours have
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decided to start reporting on this really crazy bizarre thing called summer all by themselves let's begin this morning with that oppressive heat that's now being felt all across the east and with so unique about this heat wave in france is that it's hot in july it's how hot it is how much of the country is being affected and how long it's laughing right it is brutally hot weather right now baking two thirds of the country with highs in some areas up to fifteen degrees above average but the designs all blast warnings and advisories are in effect in twenty three states where the heat index is expected. really people that's your breaking news for the day that during the summer it gets hot or you know what it is hotter than usual than like i said why don't you leave that to the weather channel when it's dedicated to talking about the weather or even the weather men or women who work at your channels whose job it is to talk about the weather but i know you focus on
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what you're supposed to be devoted to which is the news and here's a story that none of your worthless mainstream media networks reported today you know how three months the u.n. special special records were on torture was trying to get permission from the obama administration to see bradley manning while he was being held on a go. you know they wanted to evaluate the conditions that we he was being held that make sure they didn't amount to torture make sure that his human rights were being violated by the country which claims to put human rights above all but guess what even now months later with bradley manning at fort leavenworth in kansas where his conditions are reportedly much much better the obama administration still will not let one mendez the u.n. official see him because conditions have proved so drastically if you're so sure mr president that even when he was being held back at quantico that he was being treated within the pentagon's regulations then what is appears trying to hide you know even the bush administration allowed detainees at guantanamo bay to be visited and they definitely do not have
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a good track record so you're going to let bush make you look bad now well today one mendez special investigator on torture for the u.n. released a statement saying that the u.s. is of violating the un's rules on access to inmates so once again we're just flagrantly violating international standards that we expect others to follow nicely done mr president the u.n. the american people are not as they give up on it forget the bradley manning exists unless of course we're talking about the mainstream media which seems a very content to let this one slide and call it a miss because hey there are much bigger things going on i prefer that it's hot outside. for wiki leaks founder julian assigns was back in a london courtroom today he's fighting extradition back to sweden where two women have accused him of sexual misconduct misconduct and a son just fighting to have these charges dropped perhaps even more importantly to stay in the u.k.
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archies lawyer and it gives us more details on why he's so worried about of chance of going back to sweden. he said. he was fly by his lawyers and he says he was told a secret you better geez we were all asking. and how you felt about how today was going to go but he didn't answer any of us but he had a hair cut he's now wearing glasses he looked she much older than his forty years and certainly much older than him but he did it looks like be these months of a virtual house arrest that he's been on to have really taken their toll he calls been staying at the home of the friend of his out in the countryside where he's had to wear an electronic tag he's been under a curfew and he's also have to report to the police station every day so that the kid to really take its toll on him this hearing that we're seeing this week is churchill to last until wednesday but even then the rulings expected to be result so we might not hear what decision the judge has made for days or even weeks and
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even fight even if this appeal is rejected so says that he vows to take this case higher up the justice chain here in the u.k. first to the supreme court and then if he have to go on to the european court of human rights because he was last seen in court in february here in the u.k. where the judge ruled in favor of sweden they said that he should be extradited to sweden saying that there was no reason to expect that our souls wouldn't receive a fair trial. he's now in court today to appeal that decision and he and his supporters have always suggested that the prosecution on sex charges is politically motivated and that the end goal of this is that sweden will eventually send him to the u.s. where of course the grand jury is currently investigating the work of wiki leaks. and those artes a laura amis so while we wait persaud his latest appeals in british courts we should start asking well perhaps if it fails if they all fail will sweden send him
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to the u.s. and why would it be in sweden interest to do so and how long will the u.s. government keep trying to get a son when we discuss this is kevin zeese co-founder of voters for peace an executive director of come home america out. haven't you can quickly recap for our audience you know obviously one of the primary concerns for joining us on right now is that if he is extradited back to sweden then he will very quickly after that be sent over to the u.s. can you recap why he has some of those fears perhaps some of the past you know examples if i in the relationship between sweden and the u.s. in that sense. well i think there is a legitimate fear you know u.s. korean jury has been searching to find a way to indict. now for months and they really thrilling and it's interesting to see how much challenge or have accomplished. they recently called several people from boston who were involved in the computer hacker community up there all three
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refused to testify we haven't seen with the government's next moves going beyond that so they really first still try to find some evidence to get a summons or do they want to do their sweetness swedish united states have a very close trading relationship we are sweden's used trading partner we have a very strong weapons industry. and being used to libya were built by the swedish weapons industry we have a very strong banking relationship was we and so all these interests combined to make this happen i was working as an. anonymous on this and i think this is about really control the nasdaq. market which is the biggest market world as markets all over the various kinds around the world and putting a swedish make even the one amber another seat on a bank we've seen documented a number of times where steps are taking us a son and one of our family moves were getting easier as they're so step by step
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with it so there's all sorts of possibilities in the bottom line is united states wants. it all one we can use to continue it on what we can easily copied we don't want more information coming out about us war crimes and misbehavior in the world and a scientific you're trying to stop them over here anything you know there are some people that will speculate also. a former justice minister from sweden has his own personal reasons why he would want to go to the u.s. because he's afraid that some information might leak out about asylum seekers that sweden handed over allegedly no question that the partner of the former justice minister is the lawyer for the two women who were accusing us on so it's a pretty small world and that certainly is one factor the fact that the u.s. cia work with assigned to take two swedish folks to egypt to be tortured they were returned to sweden not guilty do you think initially given green large larger payments for the for the trouble and so there's usually something in iran you know i don't know i'm sure that assad has to go to sweden before he comes united states and there's a lot of talk about how the more difficult goes through when the u.k.
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but i think the key here is really time this is swedish effort which by the way you know he's not excused just one question which is makes is extradition so strange that a question like your question me right now risk like we can do by telephone there's lots of ways to question somebody without an international arrest warrant as it's a very strange use of the arrest warrant with the key is really delay it was long legal process is in the u.k. will be a long legal process is in sweden it goes out far and it gives us more time to u.s. case you know that this is not he could be. and as long as he is going from sweden the u.k. is very strong as united states as well we can certainly push this in an era to they don't think there's a chance that perhaps the u.s. government if it have time passes might just let it slide by forget about a jillion aside i think they're going to keep doing whatever they can to eventually get us to get their hands on him. i was a lot of fear. is doing so when he leaves the canadian kid put out documents there
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the whole cache of documents was allegedly leaked by barely million we're glad you mention the un report your being denied access to bradley manning still u.s. government hiding what it's torture barely meaning it's obvious there's an eye so yes i think they want they want the signs greatly but model the history of wiki leaks we're going to nominally provide information from government from big business and have an official news without the source of the information is one they want to stop us is really the new york times to hold back on national security concerns washington post c n n the able control of corporate media where they can control a democratized media and we can restrict represents a democratized media and it scares a national security state in the united states let's say that they get their hands on showing us signs that he has brought here to the united states some allegation so far some of you know the war that's being spread as if they'd like to try him
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under espionage charges but that doesn't really go along with anything pertaining it to wiki leaks or julian assigned him self so what do you think the worst is they really quick. i think they're trying to find a way to prosecute some very conspiracy some kind of. misuse of computer information you'll find in trying to find some way to get in and and you know it's amazing how long it's federal census can be so once it once they actually go into the united states they'll be put into a prison united states i don't think is one tunnel it was mentioned when i don't mean it doesn't happen because when you are present and we held in that prison pretrial not released well for bail even though he is no flight risk he can't leave united states they will still keep him in prison are the trial will take a long time to develop you'll be out of circulation was i'm willing to be inactive all the time they'll find some way to prosecute he may or may not be done guilty it's a very risky prosecution and only it's
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a very strong case so far. some surprises were so far as you know a real strong case with all the little people in prison for years and the process will be long and if you found guilty you'll be gone for you know five years or more and so it is a real inappropriate obviously prosecution would really make for you know a person a state's. case if it happens will be the john peters in the case of the twenty first century it will just find freedom of the press it will define transparency of government in the computer age and my hope is we move toward democratized media so the american people know more what's going on in their name by their government and the model we can expose for it is copied in carbon copy and there are more organizations in the same kind of thing releasing information from big business and government lawyers that was really going on with our money and again i think that even if they did end up going to laid aside at some point we're already seeing this start to work and the other other organizations that i want to call them capping
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copycats where they're trying to do the same thing as we can even with some of these hacking collectives like anonymous seller out lol second anti-sex there are so many of them where they come together we're already seeing a lot of these leaks come out so something is definitely getting thanks so much for joining us. i thought a concert i'd imagine residents often see stories of martial law being imposed in a foreign country now it's happening a right here in the u.s. we're going to tell you where that is when we come back as has been between the u.s. and pakistan are heating up again washington is suspending aid money to pakistan three ask how do i move from the fact that already poisonous relationship between the two countries will be right back. into it all their military mechanisms to do the work to bring justice for accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as
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a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here see some other part of it and realize that everything you saw you don't charge for the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. either one well.
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police department in the area where the fighting has finally reached the pinnacle with the city now being put under martial law tensions have been growing ever since the city council raised water and sewage rates a first for the area and over ten years after that a reason discovery that there had been widespread corruption when it comes to mailing out city paychecks and that gives you the back story let's get familiar with some of the players here as i already mentioned it we've got mayor ed foster who's fighting the city council the ones that are responsible for raising rates on water and sewage and the local police who sided with the city council and then there's jennifer jones jennifer jones a civil activist who's attempted to call out the city council for their backhanded legislation and payroll and we should mention that she's been targeted by police for starting a local newspaper called the desert freedom press to document all the wrongdoings over when jones took her argued before a city council meeting last week that's when everything really came to a head take no thought of the mayor the police chief and city council city
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councilman joe winslow began arguing over whether or not jones has a right to speak. you are out of history centrally to cities and towns out to the television. precisely removed with. the flow would like to be out of order or not i know. our mentality as before he. retires the lady. she has now i have not you can't leave her be a shorted out expose your words no i have. to sort out what the before are waiting marlene was ordered everywhere part of the florida bar never enjoyed the end of a gala in four hundred every night and this is the framework detaches not the idea is just. plain ol if you are in violation of my rule of the water the ball
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is just beyond there. on the street i have not read the bill. for a while if i ruled. the day. rajkumar rules about me know where to start. got a lot of. that but a council meeting ended with jones being arrested so ultimately her voice was not heard as this that wasn't bad enough the city council held another meeting after that youtube video leaked to the public and this time council members privately voted to oust him there and declared a state of emergency get a state of emergency apparently council members claim that they were getting threats from the public over the way that they denied jones or first amendment right now what is need for death threats are just an outcry over a denial of this woman's rights we don't know but from there the name calling
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continued between both sides with america saying of this town was under martial law and of course when questioned by local reporter. the police chief said that law enforcement had done nothing wrong now meanwhile siders a calling is brewing battle a disgrace to the first amendment and wondering if you can present your argument before the government's and what i hope is left to keep officials from becoming corrupt while the courts cite city councils under a state of emergency all meetings are being closed to the public and they've suspended all public comment now all mare foster continues to fight for his position against what he says is martial law i think that it's pretty fair to say that the actions of the city council the local police here are just very small is just one small you a very important example of what i like to call a police state. and it's only tuesday but it's already been quite a week region and for relations between pakistan and afghanistan and the u.s. and i while the cars i have rather afghan president hamid karzai and a man who controlled much of southern afghanistan playing both on the side of the
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cia and considered to be a drug kingpin was assassinated by a close associate today the obama administration announced it will be withholding a third of the aid that it gives to pakistan eight hundred million dollars worth until they see more results in pakistan's fight against the taliban but apparently that has not stopped us from launching air strikes in the country three separate missile strikes reported in pakistan in a matter of less than twelve hours and those killed at least thirty eight alleged militants now the reaction from pakistani officials has been rather mixed but offense minister saying that pakistan could pull back troops fighting near the afghan border if the aid really is cut off all the army issued a statement saying that no problem they can do it on their own so they gave me here it continues but where will it end here to discuss this with me is jim hansen retired special operations master sergeant and military blogger at black dot net can thank so much for being here tonight. all right i'm just wondering what you think of this move for starters and we're going to start with the obama
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administration cutting off or announcing that they're going to cut off about eight hundred million dollars in aid is that really going to want to make pakistan start to play nice once they start missing the money or is this really going to only egg them on well i mean what do you think the odds are of us actually cutting i would be willing to go on the record and say. i mean we're playing a game of chicken with everybody talks about the fact that it's al qaeda and the taliban that are a reason for supporting pakistan and they have nuclear weapons and we bribe them with money we play games with them and we will continue to pay them as long as they have nukes so we're not going to cut it off it's going to be game of chicken you know they be put domestic political statements we make domestic political statements and in the end we'll pay them and the money will leave the country and go to dubai and you know any other examples where we really have done where we threaten the aid because somebody is flagrantly violating whatever rules we like to place upon them or what we want them to do we how many times has israel i'm sorry
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but you know dumb things in the face of the obama administration especially when it comes to building the settlements but never once has aid to israel been question especially by the administration itself so why in pakistan why would see between the two israel's a much better friend than pakistan's ever been i mean they're pakistanis are the best friends money could rent and if they were rated on even the standards you put on a car rental agency we would have dropped them for another one in a long time ago so they're not really anybody we can count on but they're the only one we've got your dance with and the only ones we've got who can do anything in the northwest regions where the taliban hands up. one of the things that it was said by at least the pakistani military because of course they said we heard from the defense minister but he's not really he's not really the one with any of the power he doesn't run it so what we hear from the army are those are the statements usually that matter they said either we can do it on our own or they said we can always go to our all weather friend china which is that's a threat that we've heard quite often from them lately but when do you think that
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might actually become a realized threat when is china actually going to start stepping into that role and we have to worry about pakistan becoming closer why would the chinese want that you know i mean they're pretty bright give the chinese some credit they know that it's a soup sandwich the whole region is a mess and always has been so there's near zero chance of the chinese becoming the pakistanis all weather friends and you kind of checks we do so what will happen is we'll make a deal behind the scenes they might be writing checks let's get this straight but they're just won't be following it up with a ready made a rules already check for other things like they're doing behind the scenes kind of developmental things but they're not going to become the foreign. groups that we are in the people who bring the satchels of cash that the pakistani military government and intelligence agencies can use to build those why do you think it's fair i brought up also the fact that despite all of this is going on despite the threats to withhold from the funding despite those threats on the pakistani side so we're still launching airstrikes there. i'm sure though you think that is fine when
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people die. bad guys we don't even know but let's talk about the fact that why are why are we so concerned with launching airstrikes and trying to kill the taliban why are they our supreme bad guys when cancelling what we hear about is that we're trying to fight al qaeda worldwide and the new secretary of defense leon panetta says there's only ten or twenty guys let's take out why do we care about this taliban in pakistan. but it is getting his info that he's putting out publicly but it's not the same as the info that's going on behind the scenes there are plenty of al qaeda folks they are intermixed and intermingled with the taliban and the whole region the entire north. the region is a place where the terrorists train. and go to conduct missions from so the idea that we're killing guys they're thirty eight it was great let's tackle like cordwood i think that's a wonderful thing when we're killing bad guys and i hope we don't really bad guys and we've killed countless civilians when it comes to these airstrikes which is why people in muslim countries where we launch air strikes where we are drone attacks
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that's why people don't like us is because we cause death they don't like us because they disagree with our religion and the way we run things though you can complain that the people we do have to stand here that peerage afghan is not really care about how america runs its country they have no idea how america goes with the ones who are in the northwest frontier in terrorist training camps and in meetings where we verified that it's terrorist leaders coming together to play in bad things in pakistan in afghanistan and against us i think it's pretty safe to say they're bad guys and so if we're sticking them with hellfire missiles you know and blasting them in their component molecules will provoke why do you think that out of them is making these statements likely i think he's trying to justify the obama team's cut and run phase of the full surge you know we had the june with the guaranteed withdrawal date and so now we have to be able to say we succeeded in order to go ahead and justify politically that it's time to leave so you say it was all this is this is about time to leave or could this also have something to do with defense cuts because leon panetta that's one of the big fears that everybody had usually
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when they thought it was going to come in is that he was going to start cutting the budget and if there are only ten or twenty al qaeda left to kill then why do we need these giant is there any that we can know that's part that's absolutely part of it it's domestic budget cuts for us and justifying the fact that the mission there is over whether we won or not i want to ask you quickly if we segue every afghanistan about nation today. how do you think that actually changes anything i mean sure this is a guy who was a big player who really controls how the afghanistan and the cia worked with who is a big drug drug kingpin but does it really change anything for us not to really point. so there we have absolutely no real allies in that country there's nobody there we can trust there's no real governance when the brother of the president is i mean if you're going to hold the most corrupt person in afghanistan competition could be tough to pick a winner but a.w.k. would probably have come up with a list so him to a few bullets is highly shocking and doesn't change anything in the end not really just points out the fact that we have no reliable partners and is another reason
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you have on the team can rightfully say there's not much we can do there that's going to do any good so you think of that could be a good excuse to say that it's time for us to get out because if you think about it right you can call him an unreliable partner but the point is that we have to depend on these people because people like the u.k. as you call them they help our troops transport equipment they help them get safe you have really close it comes to their base direct now but then also you know people like him are the ones that make the local populations government so they make more they create more resentment which maybe creates more taliban which keeps furthering this war it's a vicious circle. for once along we're going to agree. both of us i don't know right now that the money we're pouring in there is doing anything with fueling that corruption fueling the idea that the national government is nothing but trouble corruption and in the end is going to do no good it's getting close to the point where it's time to pull the plug finally finally welcome to what i'm going to the club i've been trying to say we should call the fly for a while now tim thanks so much for going to see you on happy hour to later on the
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show. well still to come tonight we have our tuesday edition of sharon's health and washington lawmakers are discussing a new bill aimed at protecting children from pork but is this proposal really just another overreach by the government claims sanchez research fellow at the cato institute were telling me just now. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and cheers you some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture of. the world your relief and yet though.
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