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when this country is shipping jobs overseas it didn't help much then make took it one step further since private prisons make their money on wall street the value lies in the number of prisoners and once you throw in all that free labor it becomes an incentive to keep a lot of people behind bars well most of our viewers you guys are pretty low and it's definitely a trend that we should keep our eyes on and back when the free trade laws gave u.s. companies access to cheap labor overseas they abandoned american workers and now why go to china when prisoners in the states cause even less or even work for free as it competing for jobs against cheap foreign labor wasn't enough now american workers have to compete with prison inmates right here at home. thanks for giving us your input and here's our next question for you the southern poverty law center has just decided to place kentucky senator rand paul on its list of extremists part of the reason being his feelings about the civil rights act so we want to know what
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you think is rand paul an extremist you can respond to us on facebook twitter and who to and who knows your response just might make it on air. last night protests broke out in san francisco over the death of a forty five year old homeless man charles hill was shot by bay area rapid transit cops after a call was placed to police about a quote wobbly drunk on a train platform a minute after they arrived on the scene hill was shot dead and the man was said to be holding a knife in a broken bottle when he was shot but as word got out about his death protesters desired to take to the train station to demand answers. demonstrators are demanding the release of surveillance video that supposedly shows what happened the night charles hill was shot and killed that was july third there is some video you can see here disruptive protests there. now the incident happened over the fourth of july weekend of both officers involved in the shooting have been placed on administrative leave but hills death happened. one week after transit cars reached
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a one point three million dollars settlement with the family of oscar grant as you probably remember twenty two year old grant was killed on new year's day in two thousand and nine by a bart officer and he was not resisting arrest nor threatening law enforcement when he was shot in the back. ah ah ah ah. ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah. now the officer who killed grant here has mesereau he was given every light sentence by all white jury another point of contention amongst the people of san francisco in oakland that incident also sparked radical changes to the bart system including a civilian panel that oversees the actions of the section of law enforcement let's go back to the case of hill i like to bring up an issue here over the method of the bart cops use i understand the cops are trying to protect themselves but is shooting to kill really the only way that would police can use their firearm if somebody has
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a knife aren't you trained to apprehend the suspect to disarm them do you really have to end their life as if that's your only option because you know if that's the case there's absolutely no hope for the person on the other end of that handgun and what about the fact that hill was dead just one minute after officers arrived on the scene you're telling me the bart cops used every non-lethal option possible before opening fire on the drunk man i understand there's a need to protect cops from unruliness vigils but shouldn't individuals be protected from gun wielding cops as well this concept should work both ways and perhaps the glaring inconsistency is what's wrong the people of san francisco to the streets to demand justice to demand change and prevent any more unnecessary deaths so we're going to keep an eye out for you on whether or not the footage of hill's confrontation with the transit cops will be released. well congress has finally decided to protect america's children from child pornography or at least that's what they want you to believe a hearing by the house judiciary committee today focused on legislation brought up
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in may of this year called the protecting children from internet pornographers act of two thousand and eleven thousand harmless in fact it sounds very moral doesn't it but the truth of the matter is that this bill would require internet service providers as well as companies like google to retain it records of ip addresses of millions of americans for up to eighteen months to help investigations against child pornographers but what else could that data be used for doesn't treat us all like criminals and is there any chance of the bill's going to face any scrutiny from politicians with a name like protecting children from internet pornographers act joining me to discuss this is julian sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute thanks so much for being here tonight it was a joy so despite the very very touching name here when it comes down to the one used in this context you know. good hearted good natured or else do i go with that what does this really come down to this legislation this is a smokescreen for something that the justice department the f.b.i. and law enforcement have wanted for years if not decades and it has really nothing
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essentially to do with child pornography it's about undermining something they've long frustrating which is the fundamentally anonymous nature of a lot of internet activity and the way to remove that anybody is to requiring the service providers to collect information about who is assigned a particular ip address at a particular time for in this case a year and a half so that if any one of those millions of people happens to come on police radar and be suspected of a crime then that information is there is that they can be really linked to their online activity not just child porn but any online right now they can do that right if they if somebody is under investigation then they can act or they can ask the companies to perhaps monitor this ip address that or. that information actually do much more. and that is like a pre-crime kind of thing yeah this is data retention what exists already is what's called data preservation which means if someone is suspected a crime in any crime not just child born any illegal activity the cops can say we
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want to freeze this guy's data while we look for evidence to get a court order to obtain it so you can't delete it you know well while we're working on it and it's not just ip addresses it's freezes email account we don't want to delete the evidence of his crimes while we're looking for evidence to get a court order to look at that e-mail but that at least requires them to have specific suspects this is a kind of dragon and says everyone is a potential criminal therefore everyone's records of the ip addresses they're assigned must be kept so that there can't be true internet anonymity and it's not just you know a big piece like comcast that are subjective as probably not that big a deal for them it's you know your corporations you know that your workplace and if they run their own network schools if they run their own or any organisation that basically runs a network that assigns ip addresses to individual machines is affected by this online proxy service which foreign dissidents often use to try and can steal their online activities from repressive governments they would be required now to compromise the privacy of their users by keeping logs of who's assigned what ip
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address so it's compromising government privacy and what is actually doing to. child pornographers ironically not a whole lot because while it does cover all those entities there's a huge exemption for wireless providers which means if you have any kind of wireless broadband service but also cafe or hotel or and the kind of free public wi-fi they're only exempt because for a lot of reasons it would be extraordinarily complicated for them to implement this even if they did implement that across the board which would be a bad idea and again not here it's technically possible across the board but even if they did see the actual sophisticated internet criminals pornographers or otherwise have a lot of ways to get around this we talked about anonymizing proxies the ones based in the us. would be forced to compromise their users privacies but there are ones overseas that this law wouldn't apply to there are software like tor the onion route allow people to relay i make everything that you could actually just go to starbucks and go on to their wife i now work and apparently looking at more not
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afraid there is fine this is a perfect storm of stupid it's both burdensome and invasive while at the same time ineffective please tell me those who were at the hearing today at the house judiciary committee please tell me that somebody actually stood up to this legislation or was this name of protecting children from pornography just too much surprisingly this is a bill with a lot of co-sponsors on the committee both democrat and republican but it was congressman james sensenbrenner the co-author of the patriot act who said that important is to fight child pornography this ran roughshod over the privacy interests of millions of innocent internet users when the guy who wrote the patriot act is saying let it why is a bad person to privacy invasive i'm just saying this is not a nice guy here when he's saying oh you've got a little too far i think it's time to step back and you know wonder whether whether what you're doing makes any sense but what do you think the chances of it are passing it's hard to say i mean again i was surprised sensenbrenner is has actually
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in the past been opposed to legislation like that. every story that has been actually a big supporter of legislation like this it was actually a big surprise to see him flipping come out against it here but it does have bipartisan support it's supposed to be a very high priority for sponsor congressman smith so we'll have to see i know the . internet companies aren't that happy about it but you know nobody is too enthusiastic about being you know the the lead face for the crusade against something called the protecting kids from child born act but how many times that we see that's how many times have we seen a piece of legislation a bill that really at the end of the day it strips people of their privacy strips them of some of their. those rights that they have within the constitution and. they just play upon it as if this is all about protecting the children you see i mean and you know any number of other things i mean you see the sneak and peek warrants that were part of the patriot act they were talked about how we need these
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to investigate terrorists without tipping them off overwhelming you used for for drugs wiretaps in general there was talk about kidnapping do you want to protect your children from being kidnapped but that's what we need more wiretap authority for in this just in the criminal side overwhelmingly used in drug cases i mean eighty plus percent for drug cases but they never say drug cases when they're going to congress for more power they say kidnapping but usually it's by why it is easier to get any deal would it be internationally if we actually passes because if you look at the e.u. they actually already have this type of legislation but a lot of people are fighting tooth and nail against it and reverse that you know i mean ironically it was just a few months ago that europe's data protection authority issued a report basically blasting their own somewhat more limited data retention initiative saying that it had been ineffective no one had really shown that it was necessary and certainly they haven't done that here either they've said isn't it important enough to get child porn but the government accountability office did a study and they found this isn't really a problem for the most part you know law enforcement can get the information it needs when it's investigating child porn all right we'll tell you thanks for
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filling us in on this protecting children from pornography a.k.a. just invading your privacy act thanks and. i have still to come tonight another presidential candidate think that congress can block the supreme court ruling on some case that's going to be more of that tonight still time segment and will have a happy hour and i don't floyd man's extreme offer to find work in arizona politician under fire for pointing a gun at a reporter but that's just. just
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kaiser reports. bringing you the latest in science and technology from the realms of. the future covered. live i decided i'd told time award and tonight we're giving it to newt gingrich the former speaker of the house is trying to revive his twenty twelve presidential campaign see in recent weeks his staff quit he reported very weak fundraisers and by week i mean fundraising numbers and by week i mean the fact that he's a dad and he's also battled neumar. it's very unflattering stories about his spending habits at tiffany's so it's safe to say the nudes had a bit had a summer so far but he's still out on the campaign trail shaking hands and trying to win support and at a stop in iowa this week new began talking about judicial activism that's
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a member of the g.o.p. call it when judges just don't rule the way they want them to the listener to make to a very shocking claims about the supreme court. we were. very. close. to breaking. down the. lives. were. all right so new thinks that congress can keep the supreme court from hearing some cases and he also believes that there is just no supreme court mentioned in the constitution. the think progress is quick to point out today that article three of the constitution begins with the judicial power of the united states shall be
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vested in one supreme court that already debunks one of those comments but new is also under the under the perception that congress can keep the high court from hearing certain cases he's also wrong on that issue the if congress could limit the court's ability to hear cases and that would give congress unlimited power to pass any law and the block the supreme court from ruling on it and that's just not the case we have a checks and balances from here in the u.s. to prevent power grabs by three different branches of government we have to wonder why new business so pissed off at the supreme court oh wait he's not actually mad at the nine justices on the court he's just stealing it this idea from another presidential candidate. but it was when our all articles reports articles for united states constitution we can list the subject matter justices. we have what we send our children each decide what should just and rule on and one of the. so newt gingrich has now turned to michele bachmann for inspiration since
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he's trailing in the polls why not just steal the front runners ideas that is really pathetic but it's also sad when our publicans who claim to learn of the constitution and all its freedoms are going to step on the document for their own political gain and that's why newt gingrich is tonight's told time winner. ok it's time for happy hour on this lovely evening and minus sacre earlier jim hansen is in fact not staying with us for happy hour joining me tonight is argue producer jenny churchill and libby jacobson senior policy analyst for new media strategies ladies thank you for joining me. the southern poverty law center i'm not sure what your feelings are exactly about this organization but they've decided to come out today and say they think that kentucky senator rand paul should be labeled
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an extremist and one of the examples that they use behind that logic there is because he said that he would not have voted for the civil rights act because as a libertarian that's just not the way that his mind works on these things but i really have beef with the s.p.l. see too because i feel like they just over label everybody as extreme as they went home we have a clip of rand paul what he said because of the way. i like the civil rights act in the sense that discrimination in all public. domains and i'm all in favor of. that but i don't. the idea of telling private business owners i have or racism i think it's a bad business is never exclude anybody from your restaurant but at the same time i do believe in private ownership but i think our that was right after he got elected that in your view and of course everybody you freaked out about it but does that make you an extremist libby what do you have to say about the poor guy i feel like
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he really should've picked a better example of government overreach i mean he should have known that they were going to jump on him for that one you know i actually i felt really bad for rand when all this stuff was happening because he had a lot overwhelming amount of support from kentucky and then he started saying things that were too radical for even kentucky and how ever i think that he's not saying anything that's crazy and out of the sphere of libertarianism and i think it's kind of funny that people were just unaware that that's what we're hearing this believe crazy thing is that people actually elected officials who have certain political believes that they don't bother looking in do and they don't realize until afterwards they might have a certain stance on things but i also think there's an over branding of who it is the s.p.l. she likes to call extremist i think they also did it to sovereign citizens some people we tried to interview on the show a couple times they did a whole thing about our team so apparently we're extremist because we bring different ideas on the program i think a big stream us out there are the people that are anti-abortion they're anti-gay
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marriage how america really and yet somebody like rand paul gets to be labeled extremist so i'm sort of the point i thought you were going to say what i was thinking i think the southern poverty law center are extreme. right on yeah i mean to put rand paul on the list with like k.k.k. grand wizard. i think it's really unfair it's a little ridiculous if you ask me the other big announcement though today of course is the ron paul announced that he will not be running for reelection for his congressional seat because he wants to focus on. on the presidency do you think that if he doesn't win the presidency that he's going to run and run again or is he just going to hand it over to rand paul after this. no idea honestly i the run poll a crowd i think makes ron paul's candidacy very interesting if for no other reason because they're so loud. at all the debates and. i think it would be really sad if he you know just kind of gave up after that as we were arguing about it earlier and
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it was pointed out to me that he's kind of really old but at the same time you know he's just now starting to get legitimacy and he's in a he's in his seventy's but i mean sure it might be a little sad but i think you know he's leaving his son behind a couple other progeny so. he was made a difference here let's move on to another thing everybody is freaking out over what this set of there from arizona did take a look. an arizona lawmakers under fire today after pointed a gun at a reporter that reporter arizona republic's richard relish says republican state senator laurie klein pulled out of raspberry paying three view ruger from her purse then pointed it out of his chest out of me to think she must know what she's doing . she would be doing this if it was a reckless thing to do. i don't even know i like the fact of the gun was raspberry pink but that's about the only thing that i like about the story. yeah i personally don't like this story either because it's just such awful practices gun safety i
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mean she should know better you never ever ever even if the safety is on even if you think there's no it's never point a loaded gun at someone that's gun control gun safety want to whine you just don't do it next campaign slogan on the other hand could be guns don't kill people i do. i almost did i mean it's really embarrassing and a lot of you know probably going to doesn't look so good to little like myself who are not big fans probably of guns because then you have some people just so i start away but i'm out one program and i want heads are really really upset especially in her area they say this makes us all excuse but we're out there trying to have a legitimate point and then people like her like i did my think and it's so cute when we pointed out you look at my laser it's bright thank you. fish story. i don't know if it's sad or funny but there's a man in utah whose name is apparently he claims is real name is mork and see you know and he's created
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a web site and says that he will be willing to be human prey for people who want to go hunting if they pay them ten thousand dollars and it will cost you an extra two thousand if you want to hunt him in the nude so what he's a human prey that's that's what people are stooping to these days because the guy can't get a job so he's willing to be human prey to people why i need artie to give me about twelve. thousand dollars so i can go do it special report on this guy sounds like fun i really want to talk to him and i want to ask him why he why is why does it cost more for him to be naked i don't understand is he being hunted like shoot to kill or just capture the flag kind of hunt and you know like. i was wondering if i was going to call him out on it because you saying that he doesn't actually want to have to be shot and killed he's just hoping all that attention is going to bring him a job which makes him what really really smart well you know what he could be a new guest on anderson cooper's show that's right he's moving on to
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a little bit of a different style for himself take a look. or no one does a better to start with a question i want to enjoy live more get more of why i want other people to as well . i'm starting a new daytime talk show this september. and that's just so funny in so many ways but i think i know why he wants to relax normally this is the anderson cooper that we often see was trying to. thank. god. it was. him or the fair or he. was. one of the world's going to do without anderson cooper in a t. shirt in every horrible situation imaginable rescuing nutrition or food you know lonely you're confused we will still have that interest and we're going to have two
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hours of interest in three sixty anderson during the day you going to have time even if i didn't drive you and read learned and. get to see oprah's passing the torch i mean i just i don't know what i would do if i didn't have three hours of andersen every day we need it. need it don't need it want it don't want you're going to get it apparently ladies thank you for joining me tonight that's a pretty night show thanks for tuning in to make sure you come back tomorrow anthony randolph from reason to be on the show to discuss the latest on the debt negotiations in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the a large show on facebook and to follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights at the always catch all the you tube dot com slash the i want to show plus the interviews as well as the shell in its entirety up next is adam versus the max. with the end of the boer war and the going away of the soviet union many people
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grim task of recovering divers pull the bodies of ninety eight victims including children and. russian proves or that went down in the country's worst boating disaster. washington rejects russia's call for a missile defense cooperation that's while taking advantage of sentiment to secure future bases and europe. and an end to torture uproar in the u.s. while advocating human rights to the rest of the world thousands of professional torturers are being trained at home. am in the russian capital you're watching r t. into the program divers have pulled the bodies of almost one hundred people from their watery grave following the
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sinking of a pleasure boat on the volga river in waters russia's worst boating disaster manny of them are children who were packed into a games room on the bulgaria vessel when it went down in just a matter of minutes on sunday a total of around one hundred thirty people are thought to have been killed in the tragedy specialists are preparing to lift the rack from the bottom of the river which is hoped will shed more light on the causes of the accident already partly blamed on negligence meanwhile the first funerals have been held in the republic of tatarstan as russia continues to mourn the victims reports. this is the scene that shooting. this ship is designed almost identically to the bulgarian room almost identical to the one that children on that ship played in but for whatever reason their fate was. three different.
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as crowds gathered in remembrance of those killed by the sinking of the volga pleasure boat it was the younger victims of seemed to cast the longest shadow of. these schoolgirls had lost one of their classmates. to the most we study together for a year she never had arguments with a new one sure as a very kind girl and was always ready to help as its soft as divers reach the playroom of one of the both daria's of her decks they found the bodies of the children that had gathered that just before the boat sunk. muslim once inside the boat the bodies were everywhere in the corridors and cabins for most of them were wearing the life rafts divers now have the awful tasca bring the body.

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