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i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of what american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then you've lived something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture see. those numbers given that we had an apartheid regime right here in the us.
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you. are it's time for you said it i read it when i take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i do listen now for us i'd like to respond to a comment about our mainstream mis segment yesterday compare the media's obsessive focus on the weather to them completely ignoring the fact the us still won't let a us representative visit bradley manning and job d.d.t. it said on you tube and weather is a very important to millions of people and certainly worthy of a segment here or there it seems like every single episode a lot of complains about bradley manning you might as well change your show to the bradley manning power hour now i understand the weather is an issue for people all over the country i also know that it's summer it's hot and it happens every year so there's no surprise there that's what i call a complaint but documenting the case of an american who was held in solitary confinement without being convicted of any crime that's not a complaint it's
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a reminder i'm very uncomfortable reminder perhaps so many people as to what this country has become how far the government will go to keep its dark and dirty secrets secret they've launched an intimidation campaign against whistleblowers and it's especially contradictory considering that the obama administration was the one that promised to be the most open and the most transparent so if you think that talking about the back of the president is a hypocrite and this government is overly secretive and this one american out of many may have been held in conditions that amount of torture by international standards is a complaint i say change the channel until you're ready to wake up and get a taste of the truth of the government has nothing to hide about how they treated manning they should just let one mendez pay him a visit now to the next one i want to respond to a comment on twitter from film date he tweeted i can't wait for westboro church to start picketing k.f.c. openings literally games the allure of show c.b.s. studios and car dealerships. you know i got to be honest i'm not exactly sure what
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my show has in common with little league k.f.c. but i can see is my guilty pleasure how did you know dave anyway i welcome the westboro church to give me any time i don't like a the i love them i think they deserve exactly the same rights as everyone else i don't think they make this country better so westboro bring it on now lastly i want to respond to a comment about our happy hour for monday a rediscussed a restaurant playing to ban it children from their establishment the social evolution said on you tube and she does give a plug to jamaican hedonism resorts l.o.l. love you alone now people please get your mind out of the gutter i was simply saying that i prefer resorts that are for adults only mediocre no kids splashing around the pool i'm trying to relax into making hedonism resorts are your thing that's fine but they're not mine and that's it for today's ranting i have more as usual for you next week. now earlier in the show we updated you on the continuing murdoch and news of the world saga but not only are news outlets finding themselves
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in the middle of a scandal right now journalists are also leaving their current positions to move on to the quote dark side of public relations so is this just another indicator the news as we know it could be a thing of the past archies christine for south takes a look at where it's all headed in. the personal version. of this in the local. newspapers like the seattle post intelligencer the rocky mountain news and hundreds more have now become relics from the past. slash budgets have stopped the presses newsrooms nation lawyers. and mass laos drunk media have meant far fewer journalists to investigate policy and procedure who are losing the sense of accountability in government and business in all our. life lives if we lose journalists who are now asking questions about what's going on and
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the numbers particularly dramatic with newspapers where revenue has been cut nearly in half while the journalism industry is shrinking a public relations industry is expanding at one time a one to one ratio between p.r. employees and journalists today that ratio is four to one with p.r. revenues jumping from three point five billion to eight point seven billion dollars journalists are simply overwhelmed by folks who are trying to spin them or trying to create their own story you have the public relations folks spin doctors if you will driving the cycle john nichols along with robert the wrote a book about it the death and life of american journalism in a sense we are becoming one of the most propagandized countries in the world short staffed news stations often use company video news releases or vienne ours like this one your chances are the first reported need to apply p.r.
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disguised as news the new treatment is called mimics press releases also often read on the air or posted on the web before any fact checking is done with the focus often on getting it first rather than getting it right that evening everybody breaking news tonight we are heading into a program with the breaking news where corporate and government p.r. departments are filled with former journalists who know how to sell their message they understood our need you worked what. reporters saw those good story as opposed to hype which ward works for nearly twenty years as a journalist with the philadelphia inquirer but after layoffs he left to work for health insurer independence blue cross before returning to work as a journalist that revolving door between the press and p. are. as the government is causing real concern about what the long term effects could be if the influx of spin doctors take over the message machine completely
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when there is very little journalism being done in an awfully lot of you create some dangerous circumstances for citizenry for democracy itself i'll go straight to questions white house spokesman jay carney worked for twenty years as a journalist for time magazine now he's president obama's spokes person former broadcaster and columnist tony snow went on to serve as a spokesperson for president bush and jamie rubin went from the state department under president clinton to executives editor at bloomberg news so common such as common practice and no one no one is questioning or writing or in a time when how can fly are often one in the same and the spin machine works overtime as the printing presses on small homes the question becomes can immediate full force a state actually survive. in washington christine for sound r.t.
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. so as p.r. spin masters now outnumber journalists four to one in america to say that journalism and that is dead we accepted this new norm and learn how to live and work with it or is there still something that can be done maybe like looking organizations that leak rather than just stand joining me to discuss the discourse for chambers lecture at georgetown university and author of the blog at her venture chris thanks so much for joining us i mean now if you think about it if you go into p.r. you probably work less and you probably make a whole lot more money than you do if you're a journalist so can we say they were really shocked that people are choosing to go to p.r. instead well not really i mean they're oh no i mean if you're in the market and given the orientation of things but i mean journalism is more of a calling i mean i don't need to tell you that i mean it's a profession i mean you're part of it i'm part of it i mean the p.r. is come. but use that term lightly off of basic corporate communications
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advertising is unsettling and the implications of that are really dangerous so i give you an example when the b.p. oil spill happened they had a huge press conference for the joint investigatory panel for deepwater horizon the reporters from all the networks and newspapers start to look around and realize there were like fifty sixty seventy people in the room half of them were p.r. people from the oil companies that were there to not ask questions but to answer them for the coast guard i mean the implications of that for policy are frightening you know so it goes beyond just younger people trying to make a buck when they get out of school that i think that the schooling part is one of the really interesting factors here is that we've seen from the top journalism countries journalism schools in this country start to shift their focus but they're no longer just a journalism school they also tacked on communications there you know when you teach your students what do you do you tell them that this is a calling or telling that this is a business and that there might be some spinning and maybe involvement or p.r.
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is better both i mean you know because when you look at schools like in the bill that are doing that i mean you know we have a self-contained p.r. program with georgetown and it's it's definitely starting to outpace our program and we tell people yes this is a calling i don't want to you know call out my university but i mean we still see people kind of easing over to the p.r. thing because you know the it is a it is a rigorous discipline but is it a calling you really are involved in spirit now what we try to do whether we're journalists or p.r. program or a law school is in culchie ethics and the kind of the catholic kind of jesuit kind of way of looking at public service but not everybody is doing that so you have people selling it is about selling i mean you can reporters can't even go out and do investigative journal. as are many more you saw in the report nichols his book about video news reports i mean there was the pew research. did
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a study based on the baltimore market half the stories were from video news clips press releases from from government about a third from corporations and then there was a sliver a sliver that reporters dug up on their own so what does that tell you i mean we are in a propaganda society we're in a market society or marketing society they are the princes and princesses of marketing not journalists and that's all but that's what newspapers that's what you know television stations that's what they prioritize writing lies that they can do this on the cheap if they see this article. stories or videos the canal where they don't have investigative units anymore but i'm just wondering so now if everybody is involved in some form of spin everybody is telling you their side of the story then you really can find both sides of the story usually i guess it just evolved or involves a lot more work on the part of the reader or the audience that you actually have to actively seek out you do and that's there and is the problem because we are
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bombarded constantly you know you can make an argument that the education system isn't teaching people how to do critical thinking anymore so when you have the perfect storm of insanity of information gone boardman of spirit and propaganda bombardment people don't have the time and sometimes even the training to be able to discern the truth i'm just wondering since what do you think you think that organizations like wiki leaks or things that you might be similar to are kind of the next frontier there they don't necessarily hear him but just down i think i think you know well obviously you know julian assange and the people that run with your leaks are wiki leaks like organizations might have a certain point of view but that is the new frontier the problem is we haven't gotten to that for a period we're still seeing the old paradigm disintegrate and we're in the middle of that now and god knows where that's going to go we see that now i guess it's going to be the ride exact way in life chris thanks and i think you. well just
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ahead he eats a burger and it becomes a huge scandal all based in the newspaper so tonight we get that paper are full time award and happy hour should obese children be taken away from their parents puzzled why minnesota residents could soon be running out of booze and cigarettes. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleek you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. and yet though.
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it's time for sides told time a warden's and i were giving it to the washington post the famed newspaper here in d.c. dates back to eight hundred seventy seven and it's been considered one of the most respected newspapers in the world and back in the one nine hundred seventy s. the reporting of bob woodward and carl bernstein led to the watergate scandal and the downfall of president richard nixon and the paper is most well known for all of its political coverage but oh how that might even newspaper has fallen this week of those broke a major news with the following headline michelle obama orders seventeen hundred
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calorie meal at shake shack. can you believe now it turns out it was about a fifteen hundred calorie meal but that's not the point here this is a suppose it a world class newspaper a leader in print journalism actually put time and effort into a story about the first lady eating a burger and fries at a d.z. restaurant i'm sorry but it was so stupid but not to be outdone the next day they also ran an online poll asking is michelle obama hippocrates for loving burgers give me a break guys she ate a greasy burger it happens as a favor as a notice the first lady is in excellent shape she had a killer body she often talks about her workout routine in the post wanted to know if it was a bad example for the first lady to be eating a burger while pushing her let's move campaign to fight childhood obesity you know if the post just did a little bit of research online they would see michelle obama has often said go ahead each your favorite foods but in moderation and with exercise that's the key if you can work out and have a burger every now and then you don't have to be miserable and you private all the
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time now since the washington post ran with this story it was picked up by a few other websites and most of the t.v. networks actually ignored it thankfully as a non-story but there's one network that just couldn't resist i know you're thinking it was fox but you would. first lady michelle obama famous for her let's move campaign the first lady letting go of d.c.'s best burger joint yesterday and a.b.c. sharon alphonse he was counting calories yesterday she indulged stepping into the newly opened burger stand shake shack fellow diners shot self olympics she ordered up a burger a chocolate shake fries and wait for a guy in a diet the damaged seventeen hundred calories. all right it's a little morning network news show doing a lame story i guess we've come to expect that from them daily but to think that all of this started with an online article from the washington post i wonder if anybody proposed even cares about their former brand of high and mighty journalism
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anymore judging by their coverage of michelle obama's burger for lunch i want to say no and that's why the washington post is tonight's tool time winner. all right it's time for happy hours tonight and joining me this evening as our correspondent laura in this year and anthony rand as a director of economic research for the reason foundation thanks for joining me guys thank you for having me. ok. michelle obama eating a burger obviously trying to fight obesity in the u.s. but there's a new harvard researcher that has their own idea of maybe how they could handle this take a look. in extreme cases placement into foster care can be the. solution. we've just three square meals
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a day. interest to regular gentle physical activity can sometimes lead to. the or else foster care can sometimes lead to i don't know how about a dramatic emotional day a million other things that could go wrong i just don't understand why instead of wanting to educate people about how you can eat healthy and exercise like michelle obama is trying to do which by the way conservatives try to attack why the natural instinct here is distinctly kids who were put prepared to deal no big deal well he was actually giving some examples of really extreme cases where he did see it work and i can see his point in the sense that childhood obesity i feel like it's such a big epidemic enough and on and on that parents are responsible for and i do think it shows it is a form of neglect however when you see the amount of costs and consequences of cost since i think that it's about forty thousand dollars per child when you kind of
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look at the cost of foster care i just think that you could probably find a way to have a family give that child three healthy meals for less than forty thousand dollars a year obviously the united states government is well equipped to take care of two million children and make sure they put them on a good way to are you kidding me but the absence is absolutely ridiculous and in their way this is sort of like a next step when we have the idea that the u.s. government is going to be dictating to people you know what kind of insurance they could you should have in terms of health care and what not the next step is ok well now if you're not treating your kids right we're going to tell you how you should raise them or the kind of food that you should give them sort of like a slope in this direction but those costs do end up coming back to the government when you have an increasing number of kids that have diabetes that turn into adults that have diabetes and end up on programs like medicare medicaid that taxed. and that's really what i'm. trying and officially and i think that's all you want to educating people so you don't have to create larger costs by locking parents because they can't take care of their kids i mean if you want to talk about neglect
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then i would say that that's a big part of that is just taking the parents away and throwing the kids out of foster family like you said their expert there and you just have to be more reasonable more sane way to handle you also can't leave out of my emotional health here as well because you know you best bet is that is incredibly key however following that logic you could argue that a lot of times you hear where children are given food to stuff feelings because parents don't want to parent enough or they don't know how to deal with it so maybe there is no there are any you think you know i don't know so you just want to start stuffing your face even more but if you have a really good not bad actually only are you a. little monsters we're not worried we're safe but there's a lot of us you know what we're saying is that there's a lot of great parents in the united states new yankee researchers are you telling us last around a little to. gross us maybe in a way that yes you did you lock your kid there disaster oh truly how do you really want to take some of the bad stuff. next story we've spoken to you about the
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government shutdowns going on in minnesota of course this is not only affecting just the employees that work for the government but private businesses as well and i think that this one might actually actually make people decide or at least the law makers decide to really tackle the issue and solve the problem take a look. in minnesota of bars and restaurants and liquor stores get their licenses from local municipalities once approved they pain annual twenty dollars fee to the state to get a card that allows them to buy alcohol from a wholesaler but right now no one is not the department of public safety to process those cars we have a permit. and that is going to give us his libertarian perspective. from my perspective i think that once you start taking people's booze away when they can't go to the bars anymore and there's nothing to drink then that's when you might see some protests on the street you might see some riots and that's when they're going to kick the government in the butt and say enough with the shutdown figure out your problem and this is going to affect cigarette smokers because
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a lot of the people that sell cigarettes and get cigarette licenses are going to be affected i think when the cigarette smokers get smoked that's when you're going to really really think. you know it's unfortunate that it's going to be this that winds up kicking the lawmakers are doing something right now there's a report there's a couple an across the border in canada where they just adopted a child but they can't bring the child across state lines here from canada and should i stay without the signature of a government official so you have this can't couple that basically holed up in a motel waiting for the government to get back knowing so that they can then return home with their child and that story should force governor dayton for that we can start again well you know what are you i mean there's a who is a good guys on this is going to want to be coming to the alcohol issue but can we can usually that would be a good thing for all of these cities and states they can come into green park california where we're from work which they can never cut the budget maybe we should start with holding liquor licenses so that the i and everybody are going to be right out and they protest and government which is the real story here why do we have liquor licenses like you are jealous of course i know i have to bring that but
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why do we have to have state monopoly on the sale of the wholesale liquor. store you say there's no reason there should be said there should be some standards and you know we've seen a lot of stories where a bad booze assault her people die there's been a lot of hundreds of this what you hear in russia as well. people get poisoned because they buy some cheap vodka on the side of the road and there should be some form of regulation or license and yet there again i do i see where you're going to go into the future even if you just granted one liquor license license up front why do you have to keep renewing it every six months to a year you know you need to speed your p.c. and exactly what you have done exactly and that's the real story here is ridiculous ok this one really quickly obviously there's been a lot of anger directed towards the t.s.a. this one woman actually got herself put in jail because of it because she refused to let her child get a pat down which. is the commendable for a mother to do i don't know i mean i think that she was didn't want to see go through the body scanner and i'd have to say i don't blame or those things break me
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out. of radiation well you know they say they say that they're safe i'll stay off my. i'll see if you actually read the story i want all right i. have had enough i told you so said i if you actually look at the story this woman completely lost it saying you're not going through the scanner you're not checking my child i one love all she knows going to the airport she's going to have to go through this and then totally snap there is something on this motherf to sort of be aware head of time of kind of what your ira easy going fun or yeah like i don't know. what we were last story and i was running out of time we're trying to get inside i we have to do this right there is there's a new arena in town and this is why did you even see investigators believe forty eight year old catherine q back or how to plan it that was calculated they believe she served her husband dinner at least with drugs at their garden girl condo last night when her husband passed out she tied him to their bed allegedly cut off his
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penis with a ten inch kitchen knife placed his body part in the garbage disposal and turned it on then she called nine one one for the garbage disposal it was a really gets me on the story but you know i'm kind of surprised that we don't see more out there that we don't hear stories. like this more often i just figure that there will be more women angry angry women chopping up more peanuts are you encouraging that these are the record stores over a woman was born is no ugly surprise there are more penis is being thrown into the business but i think one interesting stat about this story today is the amount to which men seem a lot more effective by just than men are but they've been really disturbed by the press attention this is god it's absolutely horrific it frankly i just want to leave because i just don't want to talk about this it hurts me it hurts me before much all so i'll stop laughing you hear of the misery of anybody out there are you guys thanks for joining me thanks for tuning in and mention if you come back tomorrow behavioral economist dan ariely will be on the show does explain the study the finds of most americans would choose to live in
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a society with current less income disparity that we have right here in the u.s. now in the meantime don't forget become a fan of be a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's or any other night seem to raise cash value to the last you on the show you have next is adam vs the night.
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