which made cyber attacks in the old white house is just for fun just to prove themselves. most of them to separate criminals each other even by perfect the developed model where all of the dark. home computers or enterprises to steal the information to have their hands on this is them still use are these sort of computer networks and the unfortunate where the big profit from that. and to be honest. and well and there are another group. of people who are behind all this at the x. we call them activists people who are on the table in different motivation it's not money it's not profit most of them they do it's like a protest just like that group that was revealed in the cases against wiki leaks i'm not going to yes as i understand this people used to hack into these master card recently apple i was wondering are these people who are idea driven more

dangerous just than just hackers at it for money it's a good question and. i might for i'm afraid they would be. more dangerous because they're much more of this people are many of them their way to professional and sometimes with the books we had guys do for my knees are less dangerous than this dude just for fun or like protest and use even more dangerous because they are getting more experienced and the. take over but the use of new ways to hard to. stop internet services to damage their infrastructure i am a free there are the will be the. police is for tourists to employ these forces i am afraid that in the future of cyber terrorism.

will. kidnap will force them. you know are there ways to design and to manage cyber terrorism attacks so i'm already is huge i'm afraid it's really huge because we depend on would depend on computers networks everything their own is just a computer. in cars in planes in industrial in the wider months and that's probation everywhere and unfortunately in not everything that works is designed in a secure wait unfortunately it's possible. that these systems in different ways so i'm afraid we leave in a very dangerous world which is super more dangerous in the bust i'm afraid that's going to do serious and those bad years the good news piece that the

governments for in the early understood that and i see that the a lot of attention to the problem and i see that you scully the year these questions and the humans started to. cooperate on the informational level to frame their for full lives so the only way to respond to a threat on that scale is with cooperating with governments exactly exactly because that's what's the problem is informational because the internet doesn't have borders and the militias courts all separate the nation aboard this was a speed over the internet is so the only way to disturb that the only way to make this world more secure more safe is international cooperation and what they see i see more and more reports of both informational international meetings or news ations all projects that's a good news but the other side of the coin when it comes to government corporation

with hackers or people who are creating or fighting where's this is that last year for example. spritz concluded that a virus called sex and that it was used to attack and destabilized plant in iran it was actually produced with state support for example israel could be united states . or cyber wars between nations like a reality already and we don't know about that we have just one incident and or have this information from i personally have this information from two sources first of all first of all the money shows court the virus itself and from the news because so the secret services or nuclear power plants people they don't report me so then from the court you see that these says this is a very complicated a very sophisticated the money is yours. that's a very big project there was i think there was a group of high end experts to design that could have found that without government

support what do you think. i know which i'm not sure. i'm not surprised that easy for our world sort of portrait in the internet to source all of the set that. that could do to well i don't know personally but i think that's very close to the truth . and this is just at first incident. and then waiting for the next ones and i think i'm afraid that in the future confrontations military confrontations between countries unfortunately will still have it i'm afraid. and bluster or traditional military forces there will be a cyber military attacks. that makes ermey even more and they're worse and more but on the roads how do you respond to that. it's not our job to protect counters our job to protect the importance i would drop of the. forms but would advise

governments want to read you need to do because of this sort of. protection over industrial system so our communications or government sources i think. the right we use to introduce me to the security to standards to the industrial systems critical in france three. systems and which is really critical for the national security for the national economy and global security it's a global economy on a lighter note i read a funny story about you when you're checking in a hotel receptionist tells you only got your last names exact and virus what is it like to be like living brand always living with your alter ego or something i just as. i just leave that. sometimes sometimes

something sometimes it's not easy. and. i would put it was my credit card. i like the way it was scarce and because i don't want to be to go tonight is there in the shops in the supermarkets nice to be the supermarkets. are all on the border or in the hold. on there. but in the car office where i need two of. my papers i.d.'s. from time to time. to be honest i don't treat it like it's only other hand i'm sure it has benefits because if someone seems to get the security card that they will not dare to actually have a short so when you think google you automatically think search when you seeks erikson you think you automatically think photocopy when you. here you don't

automatically think to protect something that you would want to. use it with that's a good target i think that's a good idea and. look in the boat. in the house or i think it's over the century there was a gun to the security team. maybe we will see that in other countries so what do you think your success story could be repeated in today's russia or is silicon valley a better place for a business like yours. i hope i hope that russia still. place for their projects for startups still their main ear already done to the engineers and that are actually due caution no technical education system still works quite well. and there are now the good news is the information will investor say to stop investors so they stop the door were russian

companies so much more attention than in the past so i think there are all this can be in the nation or for our russian education system. and i see that once investment and lost their government support i think that's where the right compliments to where it where you are very groups where the groups so i'll call that in the russian way bush do you think the brain drain has stopped us this point from russia too much sort of there are still the people in the green from come to counter some people who are it's not just from russia to the west or to the east but also from other places. recovering from national guard and tory have people waiting for japan produce and most of. it's not a big problem because you can't you don't have physically have to be in russia by the way at this point yeah that's right. think that for in some cases that sore are

much better to be physically and emotionally because of taxation. but if your business directly depends on cyber crime if one day cyber crime is completely eliminated would that put you out of business. well that's more a year. but there's a very big dream. to have a big read about the story cybercrime and the free will have. these but i will press it. but i don't afraid to blow the business or i think that we'll find something else another drop another industry and. maybe a different project because i still i still want to work. thank you very much for this interview thank you.

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enemy me. rupert murdoch's media empire abandons its bid to take over britain's largest satellite broadcaster as a frenzy over newspaper hacking consumers politicians and. divers are said to make a final attempt to find twenty four victims of russia's pleasure cruiser disaster who are still missing while police make their first arrests the owner of the company that rented out the bulgaria and the person who certified it safe to say. and to washington where talks between russia's foreign minister and the u.s. secretary of state sergey lavrov proposes a new step by step strategy towards iran may bring to iran back to the negotiating table over its nuclear program. back to the top of the hour in the meantime andrea will bring the latest from the world of sports.

hello there thanks for watching the sport good to have you company and these are the headlines. defending champions brazil reached the quarter finals of the copa america along with paraguayan venezuela. while the u.s. i will face japan in the final of the women's world cup after both sides come from behind in the semi. carnival does it again mark cavendish claims a trip to stage when she's told her for. the first defending champions brazil have reached the quarter finals of the copper america therefore to win over ecuador seeing them top group b. and they will play paraguayan next for a place in the semi's alexander plato and neymar scoring two goals of pasting to brazil my last day but i got the first hedda on the mark before to say replies ten

minutes later a laugh the bright brazil went ahead again. only for the sake to score the second of the night to make it to. brazil russia told in the end by putting them ahead for a third time with half an hour left before nine added before four to brazil then how it finished i may finish top of the break. paragraph that because why we're up against venezuela who had already qualified from group a but managed to hold out for nothing three three draw join them in the next round but israel went ahead through rome dome. but powered why we're back on level terms just after half an hour crowds finally send the ball over the line after my soprani in the penalty box. and then the white and red found themselves in front minutes later lucas bought. well scoring one of the easiest goals of his

life. five minutes left of no more time if it also made it for a long time to clean sure apparent why victory but a dramatic injury time so venezuela scored twice run down making it three to. four day. went up for a corner. and not hit it to put over for the equaliser it means venezuela finish second degree in a reply to the reporters paraguayans i say. i will face brazil next. meanwhile the final of the women's world cup will be between the usa in japan japan came from behind to beat sweden three one in the semi while the americans being france by the same school and northern chenny put usa ahead after just nine minutes following could work from at the very reilly. and they stayed ahead into the few minutes into the second half sagna from pastas long range pun dividing keep the

hype side to make it one one. usa press for we're not in coffee the wrong track one back for a meeting a corner of the eleven minutes from my knee on sub alex morgan member i play in the dying moments to see thinking sure they might send my spawn in frankfurt again to hang. around the other gang we don't waste time even sweden in their late against japan following state by sourav. but japan then responded with three goals of their own color seamy equalizing just before half time here and that was followed by another strike from sa making up for her you missed day. before our sumi got a second to make it three one brilliant lobe which puts japan into the rooms for the first time that could be held in the same stadium on sunday against the two time with the usa. some transfer news. downing is on his way to liverpool from

aston villa after both sides finally agreed on a transfer faith villa saying liverpool have improved a great of twenty four million dollars dining who is twenty six now and to get a medical discussed personal terms of the reds a move the little things that make you made your son in the summer the robert jordan henderson and charlie's at anfield but his new class had a surprisingly stint in the tour right wing match against second take the blank china things look easy in the beginning liverpool led to nothing midway through the first fifty proofs and they will go next however one stone did pull one by right before the break for trial for one just five minutes. color coding and andy carroll adding another team for the twenty thousand eight hundred men relaxed in the dying minutes and just survived a late late comeback by the high side. held on for a full three win and next for the lazio.

you get yourself first probably get yourself. includes great minutes playing games and then lose games is going to be some good things it's going to be some bad things because for a few seasons for. anguished premier league champions manchester united are in the states and got their pre-season tour off to good start to form when i win new england revolution for the bottom of my good league soccer's eastern conference told us in the first off michael owen. federico ok i made it so you know a few minutes later and the revolution got one back off that then he fell hard as free kick was deflected united responded with a couple more a makita got his price forty seven park round things off nicely with ten minutes to go united play chicago next on july the twenty. now with the tour de france heading to the pier in a stage eleven was the last. dance for sprint is to grab some glory for

a few days and britain's mark cavendish made sure he got his third stage win with an explosive finish to claim the green points jersey while frenchman thomas voeckler keeps the overall lead as yellow jersey cavendish came to make up for his now a loss to on but it could be pulled the day before and again was indebted to the hard work of his a.t.c. teammates they took up the pace at the front of the peloton to chase down a six man breakaway there and eventually swallowed them up with just two kilometers to go. it was then elbows out as teams jockey for position at the front cavendish talked himself in behind teammate mark renshaw he negotiated a pass through the mayhem that before have on the left pulls out from behind kick start and no one can catch him eighteenth tour de france stage one of his career he also takes the sprinters green jersey well thomas voeckler keeps the ladies she alleges. of unused open championship gets underway in

canton england today with the first place taking off in just under an hour's time u.s. open winner what rory mcilroy is aiming for a second straight major while there are also some big names missing from this year's tournament as constantine but top of reports the highest paid professional athlete in the world to get awards is still the biggest name in golf however the fourteen time major winner will miss the all been due to trouble some left leg injury the thirty five year old quest to equal and best origin to reject nicolas total of eighteen on the big barrier for now but have tired guess yourself back. tiger went again and he went he went quite a bit again and you know where i broke my record probably injury also ruling for muslim bent out of goals oldest major in the most bizarre circumstances the forty two year old became the second local quit to win the french open at the start of the month and broke his leg after jumping in a lake to celebrate his victory phil mickelson and lee westwood i remember top

contenders as usual but builth lefty and westy have been struggling for form of late remarkable where you stop of that bill after his stunning first major victory at the u.s. open the twenty two year old northern irish man choosing to take three weeks off towards meaning he hasn't played a competitive throne since his greatest ever day probably a lot of pressure being put on him. which he says that he's unfortunate is natural but this the pressure is going to be he's going to be looked upon especially to tighten up playing he's going to be looked upon as the new kid coming through so i think that guy the go one way or the other that could give him confidence or it could actually provide too much pressure at the end of the day he has the great chance he's thriving all confidence because of the usa and when he's used to links golf he grew up on it is no reason why he. looked doing and also among the frontrunners after securing his first victory since becoming world number one at

the scottish open great year and every bit every all the golf he's played over here you know he's played very very well you know explain well he's playing great what a worker he is he looks a member of our court my course at home and he absolutely is on the putting chipping green and bunker play and he's there all the time and he works harder than anybody out there we've seen it get results however the thirty three year old english man will have to rewrite history as no plinth has ever won the scottish open and gone on to win the british open. let's turn to motor sport and france's former champion stefan petter hanson has won the fourth stage at the silk way rally to get a second in the overall standings for the insurance race in russia it was a second stage victory for the experienced frenchman who stayed his many all for racing with flair around the sudden saving of us that i can but he is still

trailing by just over two hours behind teammate christophe troops who came in second local driver alexander if you don't was third fastest and is also over all while in the trucks team come out as crews of paving the way with. moving up to third after taking the day's honors there are three more stages to go before the rally concludes in the lympics city of sochi on saturday. meanwhile top formula one teams red bull and ferrari will also be showing off their cars in sochi this weekend along with lotus and bring their russian driver vitaly petroff and the organizers believe this event will help boost the sport's popularity in the country so it's really a new book but we're learning as we want to show that formula one is beautiful we want people in sochi not only to see but also hear formula one because the sound can't be compared with anything but unfortunately the popularity of formula one is not as big here is in europe but that is the thing we must change and in turn that

could attract more visitors to source which would usually do so that is the sport for the moment we've got more a bit later on but we've got the weather coming. hungry for the full story we've got it for. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.

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a let's go toe to toe so don't need to go publicly and run this in the kennel was a photo as used to retreat. from arctics media empire abandons its bid to take over britain's largest satellite broadcaster as a frenzy over newspaper hacking consumers politicians and police. divers are sad to make a final attempt to find twenty four victims of russia's pleasure cruise or disaster who are still missing. the owner of the company that rented the boat galleria for the voyage and estate tax but that cleared it to sale have both been arrested we'll bring you all the details in just a moment. and to washington where russia lays out a new step by step strategy towards iran that may bring to iran back to the negotiating table over its nuclear program. and russia wants to create its own ratings agency but should it be softer or even tougher than the likes of the bulls

and moody's which are coming under harsh criticism now adays find out more on business so to me in twenty minutes time. is not a on the russian capital you're watching our joshua welcome to the program. rupert murdoch's embattled media empire news corp has announced that its dropping its bid to take control of britain's largest satellite broadcaster moves in tandem to head off public outrage over allegations that several of his newspapers were gauged in a rampant phone hacking scandal has grown to include the british government and police officials who stand accused of complicity and corruption across the atlantic shocked us senators are calling for a probe into allegations that nine eleven victims were also targeted by murdoch's newspapers but as artie's lore and reports the media mogul's rise over the decades

offered plenty of warning signs over what was to come. rupert murdoch's push to expand in british media has come to a halt public and political rage over the phone hacking the spool of news corp to drop its bid to buy satellite broadcast of b. sky b. but some say he's already killed the british press and they were saying it's far back as nine hundred eighty one that's when he went on a media spending spree and bought amongst others the world renowned times newspaper news international has been playing a toxic part of our public life for so long but it worked under his ownership circulation just kept on rising in a market that killed off others and sky t.v. a loss making a satellite network rocketed to become the biggest player in the u.k.'s pay t.v. market i do admire.