the old white house is just for fun just to prove themselves. nor are most of them to separate criminals serve each other even by perfect the developed model where all the dark. home computers or enterprises to steal the information to have their hands on this instance to use are these sort of computer networks and the unfortunate where the big profit from that. and to be honest. and well and there are another group. of people who are behind all this at the x. we call them activists people who are. different motivation it's not money it's not profit most of them they do it's like a protest just like that group that was revealed in the cases against wiki leaks yeah yeah i'm not so it's just as i said those people used to hack into these master card recently apple i was wondering are these people who are idea driven

more dangerous just than just hackers at it for money it's a good question and. i my for i'm afraid they will be. more dangerous because they're much more of this people are many of them they're way to professional and sometimes with the books where the guys do for my knees are less dangerous than this dude just for fun or like protest and use even more dangerous because they are getting more experienced and the. take over but the use of new ways to hard to. stop internet services will damage their infrastructure i'm a free there are the will be the police is for terrorists to employ these forces i am afraid that in the future of cyber terrorism.

will. kidnap will force them. you know other ways to design and to manage cyber terrorism attacks so i'm already is huge i'm afraid it's really huge because we depend on would depend on computers networks everything their own is just a computer. in cars in planes in industrial in the wider months and it's probation everywhere and unfortunately not everything that works is designed in a secure wait unfortunately it's possible. that these systems in different ways so i'm afraid would leave for in a very dangerous world richest even more dangerous in the bust i'm afraid that's really very serious and those bad years the good news is that the governments for in the early understood that and i see that in the body

a lot of attention to the problem and i see that you scully the year these questions and the humans started to. cooperate on the international level to frame their for full lives so the only way to respond to a threat on that scale is with copper rating with governments exactly exactly because that's what's the problem he's informational because the internet doesn't have borders and the militias courts all separate the missional board this is a speed over the internet so the only way to disturb that the only way to make this world more secure more safe is informational copulation and what they see as see more and more reports of both informational international meetings or news ations all projects that's a good news but the other side of the coin when it comes to government corporation

with hackers or people who are creating. fighting viruses that last year for example experts concluded that a virus called stuxnet that was used to attack and destabilized a plant in iran it was actually produced with state support for example israel could be united states. or cyber wars between nations like a reality already and we don't know about that. we have just one incident and. have this information from i personally have this information from two sources first of all first of all. money should support the virus itself and from the us because so the secret services say or nuclear power plants people they don't report to me so then from the court you see that these serious this is a very complicated the body's sophisticated money is yours. that somebody big project there was i think there was a group of high end experts who designed that could have found that without

government support what do you think. i mean which i'm not sure. i'm not surprised that easy for our what in the internet to sources. that's what i don't know personally but i think that's very close to the rules. and this is just to fill seats inside them. and then waiting for the next ones and i think i'm afraid that in the future confrontations meaning to confront three patients between countries unfortunately will still have it i'm afraid. and plus dual traditional military forces there will decide the military attacks. that makes me even more and they're worse and more but i know it's how do you respond to that . it's not our job to protect contras our job piece to protect and points i would drop of the computer so mobile phones but we get advice

and governments want to be needs to do because this is where it's about protection all the industrial system so our communications or government sources i think that the right we use to introduce me to thirty eighty security to standouts to that creates an industrial systems. in frustration. patients systems and which is really critical for the national security for the national economy and global security it's a global economy on a lighter note i read a funny story about you when you're checking in a hotel receptionist tells you only got your last name is exactly. virus brother when you compare what is it like to be like living brand always living with your alter ego or something i just as. i just leave that. something sometimes something sometimes it's our most easy. and. i would play it

was my credit card. i like to play it was curious because i don't want to be to go tonight in the shops and supermarkets let's to be the supermarkets. are all on the border or in the hold. on there. but in the car office it's where i need to put. my. ideas. from time to time. to be honest i don't really like them but only other hand i'm sure it has benefits because if someone seems to get a lot of the credit card they will not dare to ask him to be sure so when you think google you automatically think search when you seeks erikson you think you automatically think photocopy when you. here you don't automatically think to protect something that you would want to. use it with that's

a good target i think that's a good idea and. look in the boat. in the house or i think it's already a history that was a computer security exam. maybe we will see that in other countries so what do you think your success story could be repeated in today's russia or is silicon valley a better place for a business like yours. i hope i hope that russia still. place for their projects for startups still their main ear already done to the engineers and are there actually do crucial not technically dictation system still works quite well. and there are now the good news is the informational investor states he stepped up investors to start to deploy he told us

from companies so much more than stand up in the past so i think there are all this can be in the nation or for arson education system. from my seat dillon's investment and their government support i think that's where the right components to caraway where you are very good. ready goods so i'll call that in the russian way bush do you think the brain drain has stopped at this point from russia too much sort of there are still there people in the green from country to counter some people who are involved it's not just from russia to the west or to the east but also for all the places we go international kompany and tory have people waiting for. just in moscow. it's not a big problem because you can't you don't physically have to be in russia by the way at this point yeah that's right. think that there are in some cases that are much better to be physically in the ocean because of taxation. if your business

directly depends on cyber crime if one day cyber crime is completely eliminated that put you out of business. well that's more a year. but was a very big dream. to have a big read about the story cybercrime and the free will have. these but i will press it. but i don't afraid to blow the business or i think they will find something else. another job or another industry. maybe a different project. still i still want to work. thank you very much for listening to bank or.

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these firms starts on t.v. don't come. from our that's me empire bam and his bid to take over britain's largest satellite broadcasters a frenzy over newspaper hacking consumers politicians and police. divers are set to make a final attempt to find twenty four victims of russia's pleasure cruise or disaster or so missing while police make their first arrested taining the owner of a company that rented out that will garia and the person has certified it safe for sale. and to washington where it talks about. russia's foreign minister and the u.s. secretary of states are doing a lot of raw proposes a new step by step strategy towards iran that may bring to iran back to the negotiating table over its nuclear program. but more news in the about fifteen minutes time before that they'll take a look at what's happening in sports with andrew.

hello there welcome to the sporting these are the headlines. defending champions brazil reached the quarter finals of the corporate america along with paraguayan venezuela. while the usa will face japan in the final of the women's world cup after both sides come from behind in the semi. and gold soaping championship is underway tricky windy conditions full cost for the first today. but first defending champions brazil have reached the quarter finals of the copa america their four two win over ecuador seeing them top group b. and they will play paraguayan next for a place in the semi's alexandra park neymar scoring twice who got to go as opposed to for brazil maybe the last day paso got the first ahead on the hard found mark before peseta equalised ten minutes right after the break brazil went ahead again through packet only for the sake of school the second of the night to make it to

two. but brazil's pressure told in the end part i putting them ahead for a third time with half an hour left before neymar before so for two to brazil finish and they finish top of group b. will play paraguayan next card why we're up against venezuela who had already qualified from group b. but managed to hold out for a dramatic three three draw joining them in the next friend venezuela went ahead through round on here that paraguayan were back on level terms just after half an hour of funny sending the ball over the line after moments of panic in the penalty box. and then the widespread span themselves in front minutes later lucas batty or scoring one of the easiest go to goal was he'll get in his career. in five minutes left of normal time look there. made it three one to practically ensure a paraguayan think however dramatic injury time so venezuela scored twice round on

making it three two here. before their keeper vega went up for a corner and ordered it to pose though for the equaliser it means venezuela finished second in the group on the play she recalled to paraguay condition and they will face brazil as i say. meanwhile the women's that the fun of the women's world cup will be between the usa and japan japan came from behind to be sweden three one in the semi's while the americans beat france by the same scoreline will start with that match on cheney put the usa ahead after just nine minutes following good work heather riley. and they stayed ahead until a few minutes into the second half sun haven't passed as long range punt a riveting keeper hopes i like to make it one one the usa press for a winner and they got it abby wambach making a corner with eleven minutes remaining and then sub alex morgan broke player in the dying moments to seal victory cheering they make sunday final in frankfurt against

japan. while in japan's game of yours if in all fairness had given sweden an early lead following a mistake by sa great finished that japan responded with three goals of their car assuming equalizing just before half time. and that was followed by another strike from sarwat making hope for early in the state. before assume he got her second to make it three one a great lob which puts japan into the women's final for the first time in the history of the funk being held in the same stadium on sunday against a time when it's the usa. some transfer news nash to dining is on his way to liverpool from aston villa after both sides finally agreed on a transfer fee saying liverpool how to improve their initial base of twenty four million dollars banning he's twenty six will now undergo a medical. undiscussed personal terms of the red zone would be liverpool's third major midfield signing this summer following the rival john henderson and charlie

adam at anfield but his new club had a surprisingly stern test in their tour opening match against second take wang don't mean china things like these in the beginning the reds lead to nothing midway through the first half christian post and david own gold netting needs goals however one don't did pull one back right before the break but trial for one with just five minutes to go cody and andy carroll adding another two for the visitors of a kenny dalglish's man relaxed a bit in the dying minutes and just survived a late comeback by the home side they held on for four three win on the next heading from a lazy coached outrage happy with the match. get yourself to get yourself osu precludes premier that playing games and then lose games is going to do some good things it's going to be some bad things but those who do seasons for well english premier league champions manchester united are in the states and got their

pre-season tour off to a good start to form when the new england revolution who have bought from a major league saw his eastern conference goes in the first half but michael owen broke the deadlock before but to become a key to made it to neil a few minutes later and although revolution got one back after benny fell five years free cake was deflected united responded with showing more mickey got his price chiefs and park rounded things off nicely with ten minutes to go. in other news golf's open championship has got underway at rules and georges in kent favorite rory mcilroy tees off in just over an hour's time followed by world number one luke donald and defending champion louis isn't there a windy conditions day at the moment much like the practice sessions that were held yesterday by the plays among them u.s. p.g.a. when a martin. later this afternoon just before legends home was. that sixty one he's a rank outsider for the tournament and is almost forty years older than favorite

rory mcilroy but that isn't worrying the veteran he's won a major is he surprised the golf world in two thousand and nine when he led the final round at turnberry in scotland before losing in a playoff and says he knows how to tackle this links course. it takes takes. every bit of it would put a golfer has to play this golf course or play it well you have to drive it will be real it's your pretty modern approach boy risk of course the weighted shot to get the shot the right distance is going to be a very very difficult thing to do in this golf course now the tour de france heading to the pier in a stage eleven was the last chance for sprinters to grab some glory for a few days in britain's mark cavendish made sure he got his third stage win with an explosive finish to also claim a green point jersey while frenchman thomas voeckler did enough to keep the overall leaders yellow jersey cavendish keen to make up for his narrow loss to under good people the day before and again he was indebted to the hard work it was h t c

teammates they took up the pace at the front of the pellets and to chase down a six man breakaway here and eventually swallowed them up with just too much as to go that it was a case of elbows out his team's jockey for position at the front cavendish talked himself in behind teammate mark renshaw he negotiated a pass through the mayhem before kav on the left pulls out from behind kicks and no one can catch him the eighteenth tour de france stage when it is pereira he's also taking the sprinters green jersey thomas voeckler keeps the ladies she alleges. and in motor sport france's former dakar champion stefan petter hansen has won the fourth stage of the silk way rally to go second in the overall standings for the insurance race in russia it was a second stage victory for the experienced frenchman who stayed his many all for racing with flair around the southern city of us but i can but he's. still trailing by just. behind to make a stop in caning second local driver alexander was asked this.

was in the trucks two teen crews are paving the way to check alicia upright moving up to third after taking a day's illness there are three more staged for the rally contagion in the big city of salt on saturday. i'm funny as well toll is making a stop in the russian capital this week the moscow venue is just one of eighteen worldwide sites on the competition calendar day here with more. this is just the fourth time moscow is hosting the beach volleyball grand slam however it's already become one of the top stops on the world tour with a prize fund of six hundred thousand u.s. dollars organizers on the russian side have been virtually unchanged from the tournaments inception perhaps that's the reason this event continues to evolve and attract the world's top talent would have a better location and would have better. better way and you would hope for ports

which are. more visible for the characters but of all the players and i would say that this is because the pool while russian players both men and women are still considered up and coming in beach circles exposure to groups of this sport on home sand place to their advantage in terms of gaining invaluable experience plus no matter how the locals perform in the qualification rounds russians of gold or represented in the group stages by three men's and three women's teams of course that's one luxury of the host nation that competitors from other countries enjoy the netherlands took full advantage of the opening stage though by adding three pairs to the next round this is my first time in moscow i've also been to search it twice and i think most guys yes of course is the prettiest city but it's yeah i like it to have a new set. with the chords i think it's more close to each other now so everything is more central and yet as in every tournament you see development every year n.d.

grow as an organization and yeah it's good to be heard whether it's perfect so we enjoy it and hope to play good tomorrow what about the level of competition itself yeah of course it's really high it's three seasons so everyone on severe at the top and everyone is competing and everyone stepped in their fault so we have to go with it then we are trying the beach volleyball world tour action that will last until the end of the week with the men's final second place on sunday and the women's final say in place on saturday the organizers make sure this events will get back to the rafters over the weekend by offering free entrance to all of the fans and of course artsy will be there to bring you the actions highlights on call sort of artsy moscow and it's pretty good weather here at the moment for it so you know it's such a chance to look at the world weather and often. hungry

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as used to retreat. from arctics media empire abandons its bid to take over britain's largest satellite broadcaster as a frenzy over newspaper hacking consumers politicians and police. divers are set to make a final attempt to find twenty four victims of russia's pleasure cruiser disaster a horse still missing. the owner of the company that rented the boat daria for its final voyage and estate shipping expert that said it was fit to sail have been arrested we'll bring you all the details in just a moment. and to washington where russia lays out a new step by step strategy towards iran that may bring tehran back to the negotiating table over its nuclear program. profits like the in russia calls the market to drop more than half of the sudden the first minutes of trading doing business out to you in twenty minutes time to find out more on the latest business .

eleven am in the russian capital watching r.t.m. marina joshie welcome to the program. media empire news corp has announced that it's dropping its bid to take control of britain's largest settle i broadcast or the move is intended to head off public outrage over allegations that several of his newspapers were engaged in rampant phone hacking scandal has grown to include the british government and police officials who stand accused of complicity and corruption. across the atlantic shocked u.s. senators are calling for a probe into allegations that nine eleven victims were also targeted by murdoch's newspapers but his article or at reports in the moments rise over the decades offer a plenty of warning signs over what was to count. rupert murdoch's push to expand in british media has come to

a halt public and political rage over thirteen hacking has forced news corp to drop its bid to buy satellite broadcaster b. sky b. but some say he's already killed the british press and they were saying it's far back as nine hundred eighty one that's when he went on a media spending spree and bought amongst others the world renowned times newspaper news international has been playing a toxic part of our public life for so long but it worked under his ownership circulation just kept on rising in a market that killed off others and sky t.v. a loss making and obscure satellite network rocketed to become the biggest player in the u.k.'s pay t.v. market i do admire rupert murdoch because he's a risk taker when he bought the times and sunday times of london the newspaper business was absolutely in peril in the u.k. mostly because of the unions and because of some other economic factors he turned that around.