in india she's available in the movie about the joys the hotels the elevators the greek way hoto the grand imperial tried to talk west coast coromandel new kind of let her tell the closeness of her to see dodi to go and. read this in the kernel was her turn as a retreat. from the russian capital twenty four hours a day this is not the top stories now fresh arrests over the u.k.'s phone hacking scandal rocked rupert murdoch's already shaken empire with the media mogul himself press into facing difficult questions the more public fury of the case challenges the future of britain's newspaper industry. calls for the u.s. to cut spending and threats of the country's credit rating could be done grading lawmakers fail to raise america's debt ceiling as more east asia plunged deeper

into an economic crisis with italy becoming the latest country to possible stores in russia. and one hundred thirteen bodies have now been recovered from the water off to sunday's pleasure cruise a disaster on the volga river while god was continuing efforts to find around twenty still missing. i'll be back with an update on those stories in fifteen minutes from now meantime as hacking attacks go global and you're looking for new ways to make computer systems safe and also you know talks to security software mogul guinea aspirin ski shares his views on the issue and that interview is up next here on our team. thank you very much for being with us today so i was just wondering did you or do

you personally know of someone who is directly personally involved in cyber crime. in the hole because we are great far from these people would keep her away a good distance. because they're working with the side of police departments and different countries so renauld these are the bad guys from all contacts and police and are also from news our own fortunately the cyber police forces are globally there and they are doing their job better and better your body your sodium more professional and the i think that i hold the we are able to handle this information so all we see this people from use are we see these people in on the grown internet forums are we see when the standards people from for a job they do or from their program from a cyber crime treason by money for scores which will trees by our statistics are

infected computers actually we are in this world not to be are not in touch as well who are just people when you think about. lunatics or well organized criminal society or all in the past there were just still agents there side of wendell's which means there are sort of which made cyber attacks and they were all white houses just for fun just to prove themselves. nor are most of them they said were criminals of each other even by the development where all of their dark. home computers or enterprises to still be information the war to have the hands on this . since to use are these sort of computer networks and the unfortunate where the big profit from that. and to be honest. and banter there are another group. of people who are behind all the subtext we call them activists

people who are on the table are different motivation it's not money it's not profit most of them they do it's like a protest just like that group that was revealed in the cases against wiki leaks and also it's just as i understand these people used to hack into these master card recently apple see i was wondering are these people who are idea driven more danger is just i'm just hackers at it for money that's a good question and. i might for i'm afraid they would be. more dangerous because they're much more people there are many of them there but a professional and sometimes of all the books we have guys do for money these are less than generous than just for fun or like purposed and it's even more dangerous because they are getting more experienced and the. recovery but their age is a new ways to hard to. stop internet services go through them

which in their infrastructure i am a free or are they could be or at least this for terrorists to employ these forces i am a free in the future of cyber terrorism. will kidnap or force them. you know the race. design and to manage cyber terrorism attacks so i'm already is huge i'm afraid it's really huge because we depend on secret plan on going through those networks everything their own it's just a computer. in cars in planes in industrial environment going to probation everywhere and unfortunately not everyone that works is designed in a secure way unfortunately it's possible. that the systems in different

ways so i'm afraid to leave a very dangerous world which is superman and dangerous in the press that i'm afraid it's that's pretty serious and that's where there's the goodness it's the governments in the lead understood that and i see that somebody put a lot of potential to the problem and i see that you scully we're these questions and you can start with the war. on the information the level of the frame there are four lives so the only way to respond to a threat on that scale is with copper rating with governments exactly exactly because that's what's the problem informational because that even though doesn't have borders and the militias courts also a bit of the process their mission aboard was it was a speed off that made them so there only we saw the slow but deliberate to make

this world more secure more safe informational copulation and what they see i see more and more reports of growth for our informational international meetings or news ations or projects that's a good news but the other side of the coin when it comes to government corporation with hackers or people who are creating or are fighting viruses is that last year for example. it's completed a virus called sex not i was used to attacking destabilised it was short lived in iran it was actually produced with state support for example israel could be united states. or cyber wars between nations like a reality already and we don't know about that we have just run one incident i am sure of this information from you know i personally have this information from two sources first of all first of all that's our money should support the virus itself and from the us because of the secret service some say or nuclear power plants

people they don't report me so then from the court you see that these terrorists this is a very complicated that is sophisticated the money source. that somebody big project there was i think there was a group of high end experts who designed it so i could have found that without government support what do you think. i am which i am not sure. i am not surprised that even for what sort of ports in the internet are both the source of the setback . that's going to smell i don't know personally but i think that's going to gloss over them. and this is just the first incident. and then breaking form that starts and i think i'm afraid that in the future confrontations need to confront three patients between continents unfortunately we still have it i'm afraid. and blessed or for additional nuclear forces there will be

a cyber meet their backs. that makes our mean even more and they're worse and more but i know it's how do you respond to that. let's look forward drop to proper eclipse contras our job and points or drop with the computers on the boil forms. of governments more to eat and to do because of this sort of. protection or industrial system so our communications or government sources i think. the right we use to introduce me to the security to stand up it's really critical industrial systems critical in frustration to prosper patients systems and hotels which is really critical for the nation and security for the national economy is our global security it's a global economy so on a lighter note i read

a funny story about you when you're checking in a hotel receptionist tells you i only got your last name is exactly what i thought i was an hour and virus program what is it like to be like a living brain and always living with your alter ego or something i just. i just leave that. something something and something sometime since our museum. and. i would put it was my credit card. i like the play it was scarce and because i didn't want to go to cognize there in the shorts in the supermarkets has to be some sort of markets. controlled or on the border or in the court or in there. but in full car offices where i need to have prison and you know you could just grab my papers i do use for him a good night. from time to time. to be honest i don't treat it

like it's only other hand i'm sure he has benefits because if someone sits near the las vegas credit card they will not dare to actually. out so when you think google you automatically think when you see their ex and you think you automatically think thought of copy when you. here at best dearest you don't automatically think to protect this is something that you would want to. do with that's a good i think that's a good day dear and. blocking the roads. in that i'm sure i think it's already a century there is a computer security. maybe we will see that in the other countries so what do you think your success story could be repeated in today's russia or is silicon valley a better place for a business like yours. i hope i hope that russia still. writes please for the eighty projects those don't drops steal their money or i will

get them to the engineers and that actually dick you shall not typically the commission system still works quite well. and there are other good news is the informational investor sites he stopped investors to start to rethink the russian companies so much more attention than in the past so i think there are all this can be in the nation or for arsenal you commission system there are some states yet there once investment and last two were there government support i think that's already right components do have a better way a very good. way to go with some or all that in the russian way bush do you think the brain drain has stopped at this point from russia that's going to have soared there are still there people in the green general from country to country and some people who are sort of just from russia to invest or to the east europe also from

other places with our international company and have people waiting for a job or can consume a school. it's not a big problem because you can't you don't have is it will have to be in russia by the way if you look at this point yeah that's right. i think that for in some cases that's much more that there will be music in the international because at that station. if your business star rectally depends on cyber crime it's monday federal crime is completely eliminated that put you out of business. well that's my year. now there's a very big dream. i have to be and read but the story cytochrome and safe i will have. these books i will present. but i don't afraid to blow the business or i think i will find something else. another drop another interesting. maybe

a different project because i still i still want to work. firstly thank you very much for this and to bankrupt.

top stories this hour r.t. fresh arrests overview case phone hacking scandal rocked rupert murdoch's already shaken empire with the media mogul himself preston's are facing difficult questions meanwhile public fury of the case challenges the future of britain's paper industry . calls for the u.s. to cut spending and threats of the country's credit rating could be downgraded if lawmakers fail to raise america's debt ceiling as more be used states probably deeper into economic crisis but there's really becoming the latest country possible sturgeon which. also reporting that one hundred thirteen bodies have now been recovered from the water after sunday's pleasure cruise of disaster on the volga

river while divers continue if it's to find around twenty still missing. people of iraq with more on those stories and other developments for you at the top of the hour in less than fifteen minutes from now but in the meantime let's turn our conservative case in sports and the place right at the end of an eventful first day at the british open in golf there has been more drama i feel yes indeed twenty year old tom lewis has sunk his final hole for parts go join talk of the leaderboard on five hundred an amazing outing around more on the golf plus the rest of the sport coming up now. hello welcome to the thursday night sports round up and these are the top stories starting start twenty year old honor to talk louis shoots a record equalling sixty five to take a joint lead with thomas bjorn after the first round of the british open. was on

the rise and be champion samuel son. he has claimed his first stage victory at the tour de france as the race goes into the mountains. and showing support thirty thousand founds turned out to watch liverpool train in kuala lumpur for their manager returned home he signed it you would feel for. the first gulf and a gripping british open where twenty year old english amateur tom lewis has filed a record equalling five under par sixty five to take a george one shot lead with thomas bjorn the danish self and cast aside memories of his two thousand and three meltdown at the major he was denied the last time it came to this english course eight years ago bjorn blew a three shot lead with bottles of play here but he a re some of those painful memories with a fine round i thought he wanted a role they only knew on monday that he was playing at the event after the withdrawal of b.j. singh and he went on to take the early lead by a strike from last month and got him an f the spaniard play flawless golf sinking birdies at the fourth ninth twelfth and seventeenth holes however the galleries

erupted after dustin johnson reached the past three sixteenth's having been four over at the twelfth the american sign a hole in one i mean a string of birdies and it was day that's even par. u.s. open champion and the favorite rory mcilroy finished at one i will call the northern irishman whose bidding to become the youngest open champion since eighty ninety three poor start poking at the first of holes before recovering to cart back seventy one and that's how he was not by luke donald the new world number one and the victor at last week's scottish open but the day well that a long time spilled. changes very dramatically in a. row but. that's part of for them. and see if we can do the same from or a long way in the distro you're always going to be a police shooting a good number the first day because you can play

a way out of it but you can never win on the first day but you have to get. as a sighting in spain's olympic champion samuel sanchez has claimed his first ever stage when of the tour de france and the second round of the season ends of the peyronie's stage twelve featured a three speed climbs with a two thousand and eight men's road race a live picture out in sanchez on top form during grueling two hundred eleven for moments from right thomas berger and he's not a renowned climber sprang a shot by retaining the yellow jersey the french when it's almost one minute and fifty seconds ahead of frank schleck who is third fastest holiday van and it. really got to football where rael madrid stars sergio ramos and f.a. have signed contract extensions stay on for a book about spain to send out almost as tight himself to the club until twenty seventeen twenty five year old to and from soviet in two thousand and five and has helped to lead it titles the copper del rey and the spanish super cup while

portugal center back who is twenty eight joined in two thousand and seven and has agreed to stay until the end of twenty sixteen rally currently in america for the world football challenge pre-season tournament and david beckons l.a. galaxy on saturday. but we've also there are huge champions matched the rise if you started every season with a four one win over you england revolution and i credit the american side to a bottom of major league soccer the eastern conference if your goal is for you to go that's my cologne for united ahead in the fifty first minute of three minutes later michael carrick stated that the economy cater to make it so you know new england quickly responded through any mail hey this deflected free kick i was in the pay that stuff again only after they get used to restore united to go advantage and they made it for one with ten minutes to go makes you put a roof and your five hundred thousand park united will next face the chicago fire on july the twenty third. and elsewhere croatian midfielder luka moggridge was with

his top them side as they arrived in johannesburg for their pre-season tournament. speculation is rife that the twenty five year old design agreed to london rivals chelsea however manager harry redknapp is determined to keep a white hart lane and spurs happy get a couple of hefty bids from the blaze which was good news from water just teammates . we're all friends really you know we've got a great team spirit it. was a place where we want to get together and say the germans came i was there is no always for sale so that's great. fun while backing in stewart downing looks set to be on his way from aston villa to liverpool after the two clubs finally agreed on a transfer fee and a saying the reds have improved their initial baiters twenty four million dollars but we know he's twenty seven next week from now undergo medical and discuss personal turns twenty seven captain lynn manning is in line to become liverpool's third major midfield signing this summer following the arrival of jordan henderson and charlie adam comes to finalize that deal liverpool manager kenny dalglish will

fly back to england from kuala lumpur where his charges have been turning the heads of political phones thirty thousand supporters turned up to watch the reds open training session in the capital and the poor are visiting malaysia for the first time this week long pre-season tour and are hoping they will improve their european prospects season begins on all-star. we want to do better than last season. think we have all of. them in the girl we already did a good job. we already have a few more new players so hopefully we can push forward. will be obviously very difficult to win the premier league but you know we want to progress we definitely want to be back in the champions league so you know we are aiming to do the best and to read as many games as possible and there's also been a warm welcome for all snow moving in the opposite direction having arrived in

china from malaysia again as will play a friendly against local club hands you greentown before leaving for germany to. f.c. cologne manager arsene wenger has also been paying tribute to former captain patrick vieira after the thirty five all french announce his retirement on thursday. we have a. trial but nobody really patrick was special because he was such a tory player was a good technique but meanwhile syria our side roma have unveiled then you coach in italian capital former spain midfield at loose summary kate is the new man in charge of forty one year old arrives after managing barcelona to be the reserve team of the spanish champions. on a two year contract after roma finished sixth in the italian top flight last year. now the twenty eighth in pyongyang winter olympics will not be the venue for an historic reunion of the two koreas north had approached us offering to host

a joint games in. their house rule that's lives instead coming up with other options and there could be symbolic actions together like the joint party or why not like the participation with the joint team. this is something we could consider it would have also a great symbolic effect but don't expect the i.o.c. to spread venue's between the two countries and organizing a number in north korea and a number in south korea. and finally after being with a cold and studying killer whales to quite surface have entered the russian guinness book of records as the first people editing surf from russia to alaska across the bering strait to the reports. safely back on dry land and after almost three years of planning constantine in new guinea finally achieved their dream of kite surfing across one of the most inhospitable stretches of all from the planet

appearing straight. if you are back in moscow to tell the press about their adventures or base soon hope to enter the guinness book of records as the first white surface to complete this amazing feat more than. we really wanted to get our names in the record books and thankfully we managed to cross the street and it was also a personal goal for me to choose such a key to really do something special in us constantin a new guinea start of bankwest from the eastern most tip of russia responsibly populated region of short current and they would cover a distance of ninety six kilometers to alaska and the united states of america. but there had been planning their route for months trying to study even various wind patterns and currents they would encounter along their routes however when they finally got on the way they were hit by a major problem as they would have to cross the straits to support their soul as the waters were too choppy for both to be able to set sail and if what you get here

to settle are told with you with a number of the local coast guard this is the only thing we had to be honest i get goosebumps thinking about words with deeds and i wouldn't recommend anyone to cross the streets without a support boat we had to go and thankfully we managed to achieve it. but your low would encounter many unexpected encounters along their proposed ninety six kilometer journey of water temperature just one degree above freezing but that was to prove police a bear worries. we knew there were killer whales in the sea we were constantly on the lookout there were other whales as well and i actually had an interesting concept with one i was surfing along and about seven meters in front of me i saw a whale i thought about trying to jump over it but there was not enough time in the endorsed street over him i didn't get hurt in the process because i. have told a seven hours on the water and alive still intact given constantine would finally

reach alaska completing one of the greatest challenges in van lives in crossing the bering strait richard weitz r.t. moscow. and that's all the news just so far this process has a very i think. hungry for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.

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