heidi and i were in the past there were just still agents there cyber windmills which me which made cyber attacks in the old white house is just for fun just to prove themselves. nor are most of them this cyber criminals each other even by perfect the developed model where all the dark. home computers or enterprises to steal the information war to have their hands on this instance to use are these sort of computer networks and the unfortunate where the big profit from that. and to be honest. and well and there are another group. of people who are behind all this at the x. we call them activists people who are the different motivation it's not money it's not profit most of them they do it's like a protest just like that group that was revealed in the cases against wiki leaks

yeah i'm not sure it's yes as i understand this people used to hack into these master card recently apple i was wondering are these people who are idea driven more dangerous just than just hackers at it for money it's a good question and. i my for i'm afraid they will be. more dangerous because they're much more of these people are many of them they're way to professional and sometimes with the books where the guys do for my knees are less dangerous than this dude just for fun or like protest and it's even more dangerous because they are getting more experienced and to be. taken over but the use of new ways to hard to. stop internet services to damage their infrastructure i am a free. the will be the. police is for terrorists to

employ these forces i am afraid that in the future of cyber terrorism. will. kidnap will force them. in other ways to design and to manage cyber terrorism attacks so i'm already is huge i'm afraid it's really huge because we depend on would depend on computers networks everything their own it's just a computer. in cars you know planes i mean industrial in the wider months and deliberate patient everywhere and unfortunately in not everything that works is designed in a secure wait i'm fortunately it's possible. that these systems in different ways so i'm afraid we'll leave in a very dangerous world which is superman or dangerous in the last i'm afraid

that's going to be serious and that's bad news the good news feeds the governments for emily understood that and i see that the where you a lot of attention to the problem and i see that you scully we're these questions and the human started to. cooperate on the international level to frame their for full lives so the only way to respond to a threat on that scale is with copper rating with governments exactly exactly because that's what's the problem easy informational because the internet doesn't have borders and the militias courts all separate the costs of the mission aboard this was a speed of the input so the only way to describe that the only way to make this world more secure more safe is informational copulation and what they see or see are more and more reports of both informational international meetings or

news ations all projects that's a good news but the other side of the coin when it comes to government corporation with hackers or people who are creating. are fighting viruses that last year for example experts concluded that a virus called it was used to attack and destabilized a plant in iran it was actually produced with state support for example israel could be united states. or cyber wars between nations like a reality already and we don't know about that. we have just one incident and we have this information from well i personally have this information from two sources first of fist of all. money shows court the virus itself and from the u.s. because so the secret services say or nuclear power plants people they don't report me so then from the court you see that these serious this is a very complicated a very sophisticated the money is yours. that's

a very big project there was i think there was a group of. experts to design that could have done that without government support do you think. i know i'm not sure. i'm not surprised that easy for our what sort of portrait in the internet all of the sources all of the set that. that could get through well i don't know of personally but i think that's very close to the rules. and this is just to fill seats inside them. and then waiting for the next ones and i think i'm afraid that in the future confrontations needed to confront three sions between countries unfortunately will still have it i'm afraid . and bluster will traditional military forces there will be cyber military attacks . that makes army more and they're worse and more put on notice how do you respond to that. it's not our job to protect contras our job piece

to protect in points i would drop of the computer so mobile phones but we can advise governments more to the needs to do because this is where it's about protection of industrial system so our communications or government sources i think that the right we use to introduce me to thirty security to standouts to the critical industrial systems. in frustration. from sport patients systems and. for the national security for the national economy global security it's a global economy so on a lighter note i read a funny story about you when you're checking a hotel receptionist tells you only got your last names exact and virus brother when you compare what is it like to be like living brand always living with your alter ego or something i just. i just knew that.

sometimes sometimes some sometimes it's our most easy. and. i would put it was my credit card. i like the way it was curious because i don't want to be to go to my eyes in the shops in the supermarkets left to be the supermarkets. on the border or in the hold. on their. butt in the car offices where i need to put. my. ideas. from time to time. to be honest i don't like that it's only other hand i'm sure it has benefits because if someone seems to get a lot of the most credit card they will not dare to actually. see what you think google you automatically think search when you seeks erikson you think you

automatically think photocopy when you. here you don't automatically think to protect something that you would want to. use it with that's a good target i think that's a good idea and. look in the boat. in that i'm sure i think it's already a history that was a gun to the security team. maybe we will see that in other countries so what do you think your success story could be repeated in today's russia or is silicon valley a better place for a business like yours. i hope i hope that russia still. plays for their projects for startups still there may need or want it done to the engineers and that are. typically dictation system still works quite well. and there are now the good news is the informational investor states he stepped up

investors to start to deploy he told russian companies so much more than stand up in the past so i think there are all this can be in the nation or for arsenal you commission system. from my seat diligence investment and do their government support i think that's where the right components to where a way of very good. ready goods so i'll call that in the russian way bush do you think the brain drain has stopped at this point from russia too much sore there are still there people i mean from come to counter some people who are it's not just from russia to the west or to the east but also from other places. informational company and torrie of people waiting for. you since most of. it's not a big problem because you can't you don't have to physically have to be in russia

by the way at this point yeah that's right. in the current some cases that's much more the be physically you know because of taxation. that. depends on cyber crime. that put you out of business. well that's my. very big dream. to have a big and rant about the store cyber crime down to you for all. this but i will present. what i don't afraid of all the business i think i will find something else. another drop another with maybe a different project. still i still want to work. firstly thank you very much for listening to thank you.

top stories this hour an r.t. fresh view kerry's phone hacking scandal rocked bridget murdoch's already shaken empire with the media mogul himself pressed into facing difficult questions meanwhile public fury over the case challenges the future of britain's newspaper industry. calls for the u.s. to cut spending and threats of the country's credit rating could be downgraded if lawmakers fail to raise america's debt ceiling and says more problems deeper into economic crisis but there's really becoming the latest country to pass sturgeon which. also reporting this one hundred thirteen bodies have now been recovered from the water after sunday's pleasure cruise of disaster on the volga river all divers continue efforts to find around twenty still missing. well i'll be back with more on those stories and other developments for you at the top of the hour in less than

fifteen minutes from now but in the meantime let's cross over to the place right at the end of an eventful first day at the british open in gulf there's been more drama well yes indeed twenty year old tom lewis has sunk his final hole for pot to go join top of the leaderboard on five under par and amazing i've been around more on the golf plus the rest of the sport coming up there. and i welcome to the thursday night sports round up and these are the top stories stunning start twenty year old ahmed to tom lewis shoots a record equalling sixty five to take a joint lead with thomas bjorn after the first round of the british open. while on the rise olympic champion samuel sounds. has claimed his first stage victory at the tour de france as the race goes into the mountains. and showing support fergie thousand founds turn out to watch liverpool train in kuala lumpur of their manager

returns home to sign a new filter. but first a golfer and a gripping british open where twenty year old english amateur tom lewis has fired a record equalling five on the past sixty five to take a joint one shot lead with thomas bjorn the dating myself and cast aside memories of his two thousand and three meltdown at the major he was denied the last time it came to this english course eight years ago bjorn blew a three shot lead with four holes to play here but he a ray some of those painful memories with a fine round the forty one year old only knew on monday that he was playing at the event after the withdrawal of b.j. singh and he went on to take the early lead by a strike from this man humanist the spaniard played flawless golf sinking birdies at the fourth night's twelfth and seventeenth holes however the galleries erupted after dustin johnson reached the past three sixteenth's having being for over at the twelfth the american sank a hole in one i mean a string of birdies and ended the day at even par. u.s.

open champion and the favorite rory mcilroy finished at one over par the northern irishman whose beating to become the youngest open champion since eighty ninety three poor start go at the first and third holes before recovering to cart a seventy one and that tally was much by luke donald the new world number one and the victor at last week's scottish open but the day well that belong in this field . you know the week changes very dramatically in. golf but. that's part of. try and see if we can do the same from our. long way to strawman you're always going to be pleased with shooting a good number the first day because you can play way out of it but you can never win. but we have to go. now to cycling and spain's olympic champion samuel sanchez has claimed his first ever stage when at

the tour de france as the second ground two of the season and to the peyronie's stage twelve featured three steve climbs with the two thousand and eight men's road race olympic champion sanchez on top form during the grueling two hundred eleven trama to ride thomas burton is not or not a climber sprang a shot by retaining the yellow jersey the frenchman is almost one minute and fifty seconds ahead of frank schleck who was third fastest on the day van and it. now we're going to football well rael madrid started saturday or i was unfair pay have signed contract extensions stay on further up the board a bad sprain defend our losses tied himself to the club until twenty seventeen twenty five year old jordan from soviet in two thousand and five and has helped win to get titles the copa del rey and the spanish super cup while portugal center back who is twenty eight joined in two thousand and seven and has agreed to stay until the end of twenty sixteen rally currently in america for the world football

challenge pre-season tournament and with david beckons l.a. galaxy on saturday. all the while also there are huge champions manchester united who started their pre-season with a four one win over new england revolution to their credit the american side who are bottom of major league soccer the eastern conference if your goal is for you to go that's michael owing to united ahead in the fifty first minute to three minutes later michael carrick set up the legal my keda to make it to you know new england quickly responded through many failed havens deflected free kick i was in the cage it struck again only after their egos to restore united to go advantage as they waited for one with ten minutes to go supervillain for the need of something united will next face the chicago fire on july the twenty third. and elsewhere croatian midfielder luka moderates was with. has taught them side as they arrived in johannesburg for their preseason tournament speculation is rife that the twenty five year old is on your way to london rivals chelsea however manager harry

redknapp is determined to keep him white hart lane and spurs have to get to a couple of hefty bids from the blaze which was good news from water just teammates . we're all friends and you know we've got a great team spirit amongst also plays we want to keep that together you say the germans come out was there is not always for sale so that's great. and while back against your downing excepts to be on his way from aston villa to liverpool after the two clubs finally agreed on a transfer fee that are saying the reds have improved their initial baiters twenty four million dollars so we know he's twenty seven next week from now undergo a medical and discuss personal terms the twenty seven cap and little man is in line to become liverpool's third major midfield signing this summer following the arrival of jordan henderson and charlie adam. was to finalize that deal liverpool manager kenny dalglish will fly back to england from kuala lumpur where his charges have been turning the heads of the local phones thirty thousand supporters turned up to watch the reds open training session in the capital with the poor are

visiting malaysia for the first time as part of a weeklong pre-season tour and they're hoping they will improve their european prospects season begins in a month's time. we want to do better than last season. i think with the arrival of lewis who doesn't only go we already did a good job. we already have a few more new players so hopefully we can push forward. will be obviously very difficult to win the premier league but you know we want to progress we definitely want to be back in the champions league so you know we are aiming to do to the best and to read as many big games as possible and there's also been a warm welcome for all small who of moving in the opposite direction having arrived in china from malaysia they got us will play a. friendly against local club hangzhou greentown before moving for germany to take on f.c. cologne manager arsene vanga was also being paid in tribute to former captain

patrick vieira after a thirty five year old frenchman announced his retirement on thursday. we have classy players in midfield but nobody really patrick was special because you was such a toy player was a good technique. meanwhile syria asked side romance have unveiled then you coach in the italian capital former spain midfielder louis in week eight is the new man in charge the forty one year old arrives after managing barcelona to be the reserve team of the spanish champions and is turning on a two year contract after roma finished sixth in the italian top flight last year. wow the twenty eighteen pyong chang a winter olympics will not be the venue for an historic reunion of the two koreas north had approached sas offering to host a joint games and then pick chief jacques rogge has ruled that lives instead coming up with other options there could be symbolic actions together like the joint budget or why not get participation with

a joint team. this is something we could consider and it would have also a great symbolic effect but don't expect the i.o.c. to spread venue's between the two counties and organizing a number in north korea and a number in south korea. and finally after dealing with brits a cold and dodging killer whales to quite service have entered the russian guinness book of records as the first people ever to be set from russia to alaska across the bering strait prevent corporate reports. safely back on dry land and after almost three years of planning constantine in new guinea finally achieve their dream of kind surfing across one of the most inhospitable stretches of the planet's bering straits. but you are back in moscow to tell the press about their adventures of a soon hope to enter the guinness book of records as the first kite surface to complete this amazing feat of leisure by stated if we really wanted to get our

names in the record books and thankfully we managed to cross the bering strait it was also a personal goal for me as to achieve such a future really is something special in your last constantine in new guinea started back west from the eastern most tip of russia responsibly populated region of georgia and they would cover a distance of ninety six kilometers to alaska and the united states of america the pair had been planning their route for months trying to study the various wind patterns and currents that they would encounter along their routes however when they finally got on the way they were hit by a major problem as they would have to cross the streets without to support their soul as the waters were too choppy the boat to be able to set sail. and if one of guinea had a satellite phone with he with the number of the local co's guard this is the only thing we had to be honest i get goosebumps thinking about what we did and i wouldn't recommend anyone to cross the streets without a support boat we had

a girl and thankfully we managed to achieve it. bigelow would encounter many unexpected encounters along their proposed ninety six kilometer journey of water temperature but just one degree above freezing but that was to prove the least of their worries whatever that if they just got up and we knew there were killer whales in the sea we were constantly on the lookout for them there were other whales as well and i actually had an interesting counter with one i was surfing alone and about seven metres in front of me a sore a whale i thought about trying to jump over it but there was not enough time in the endorse straight over him i hope he didn't get hurt in the process because i mean after almost seven hours on the water and the line still intact you can even constantine would finally reach alaska completing one of the greatest challenges in van lives in crossing the bering strait richard pombo fleet r.t. moscow. and that's all the news should say from the sports desk has

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covered. fresh arrests over the u.k. phone hacking scandal rocked rupert murdoch's already shaken media empire while public fury over the case challenges the future of britain's newspaper industry. they've got to take an act no they've got to take a chainsaw to government spending and do something about it calls for the u.s. to cut spending and threats of the country's credit rating might be downgraded if lawmakers fail to raise america's debt ceiling as more e.u. states plunge deeper into economic crisis plus. initial investigations into the sinking of the belgariad point to negligence and that the tragedy could have been avoided. the first arrests were made in the investigation into sunday's pleasure cruise a disaster divers continue to retrieve bodies from the volga river with the death toll now standing at one hundred thirty.

good to have you with this is our news and comment from around the world this is r.t. live in moscow with you twenty four hours a day with a rapid change of heart rupert murdoch and his son james have now confirmed they will give evidence to a parliamentary committee investigating the u.k. phone hacking scandal this comes hot on the heels of earlier reports that they declined the summons it's alleged that several of murdoch's newspapers were engaged in rampant voicemail facking and bribed senior officials and as our reports the media mogul's red top rise over the decades was littered with red flags warning of what was to come. rupert murdoch's push to expand in british media has come to a halt public and political rage over phone hacking has forced news corp to drop its bid to buy satellite broadcaster b. sky b.

but some say he's already killed the british press and they were saying it as far back as one thousand nine hundred eighty one that's when he went on a media spending spree and bought amongst others the world renowned times newspaper news international has been playing a toxic part of our public life for so long but it worked under his ownership circulation just kept on rising in a market that killed off others and sky t.v. a loss making and obscure satellite network rocketed to become the biggest player in the u.k.'s pay t.v. market i do admire rupert murdoch because he's a risk taker when he bought the times and sunday times of london there are people who will say that he saved the newspaper industry but now it's clear that success came with a heavy price tag morality murdoch's journalist kept the ratings high by violating and exploiting the vulnerable they hacked the private voice mails of power.