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into that only a military mechanism to do the work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do it want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sorely sleep you think you understand it and then he'd slip something else here see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok and you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. says.
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are it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliance engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i do listen now first i want to respond to some positive feedback from a kind viewer on twitter duane walton tweeted me alone to show you are doing excellent work alone of the jeremy scahill interview last week was one of your best i want to say thank you for the kind words i too really enjoyed the interview with jeremy last week and i think that represents what our show aims to do at its best telling the stories that others can't or will not tell not surprisingly the cia scrambled to discredit the whole story through out right through me through outright denials
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and press releases and all of that was to be expected but that's why you're supposed to have the media to call them out when you use organizations like a.b.c. they simply reprinted cia statements without an ounce of skepticism jeremy scahill was nowhere to be found on c.n.n. fox or even every sunday see where he has been cleared numerous times in the past so we're more than happy to wait to be one of the few organizations that actually bring you those stories and i want to sponsor a comment reviewer on a tool time segment from last friday dennis nine hundred sixty one said i hate cain because he's stupid alone our founding fathers pounding fathers i thought you were russian someone correct me if i am. wrong i was born in russia i moved here when i was four and i am an american citizen so yes i'm an american making the founding fathers of the united states my founding fathers too i have a questions and i want to sponsor a tweet from bo he tweeted the daily show needs to interview the alone a show that would be so and. so i just want to say i am totally on board of that
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idea john if you're listening out there i want to support i promise i think for my ranting today and i have more as usual for you later in the week. the sky. the light will come down. some last few carriers will be singing. ladies and gentlemen the justice system as does give us a glimmer of hope when it comes to court cases surrounding the punishment of whistleblowers in just a short while back we first told you about thomas drake former n.s.a. employee who was accused of felony espionage charges when he shared information about wasteful government spending with the newspaper the baltimore sun now the original sentence from drake was approximately thirty five years behind bars until earlier this year when prosecutors realized that they didn't have a strong case against him and ease their accusations from espionage to exceeding of the authorized use of a computer just
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a misdemeanor charge some change of heart that happened to take place right after the new yorker's jane mayer detail the absurdity absurdity of the government's charges and a very lengthy piece for that magazine telling us district judge richard bennett finally heard the case he further school the prosecutors for their very meager attempts at trying to imprison a whistleblower and he ultimately sentenced to two hundred forty hours of community service and a year of probation so needless to say drake was very pleased with judge bennett's ruling. the experience will be for this to be the chemistry just. because truth is matter where you get the next target subject which. is which. i absolutely agree with drake the government is simply conducting a witch chimes in its relentless prosecution of whistleblowers something that puts all government employees willing to put themselves on the line in the name of truth in danger welcome back to drake's case a former n.s.a. worker was relieved when he heard
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a sentence i think he should not receive any punishment at all for starters or dre didn't leak classified information that the state and that he stood by for the past four years how the fact of the prosecution couldn't even form enough evidence against them to convict him of felony charges after all that time so i guess instead of further embarrassing themselves well they decide to bring down their original charges and ask for a plea deal in stat that at least a judge bennett could see through this flaky case of the government right against eric but it scolded the justice department for their actions saying that he was appalled by the time lapse between when drake's house was first first raided over two years ago until when he was charged and he claimed that it did not pass the smell test and he's right as time went on it became very clear came bush and then a team obama were going to go after anybody who put the government in a bad light even an n.s.a. employee who merely shared information of government waste with the press and despite the fact that he didn't leak any classified information that could damage national security obama want to set a president to keep anybody else from trying to do the same by the federal courts
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saw through the government's pulling out herds stop them in their tracks saving an innocent man from spending decades behind bars for a crime meeting commit to harry how to folks a true glimmer of hope the team obama is at war and whistleblowers can in fact be stopped. now are you ready to hear about the most important geo location company you've never heard of or for the usual suspects fans out there the kaiser soze say a global phone tracking spencer ackerman from large danger room called it today it's a company called true position based out of pennsylvania holding of liberty media which also owns sirius x.m. the atlanta braves basically people have money and if you have eighteen t. or t.v. mobile then they have the technology to locate nine one one calls and use and do so with over sixty five million calls in the u.s. annually according to ackerman but that's not all see it turns out that over the last four years this company has had a lot of worldwide interest and it's location intelligence as
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a security tool for they won't tell anybody which countries they have those contracts with while providing at this incredible technological told they also take a none of the blame for how it's used and say that it's up to the governments to add here to their own laws so why we've heard so little about that and should we be worried joining me to discuss it is christopher so going security and privacy researcher and graduate fellow indiana university center for applied cybersecurity research chris thanks so much for coming back on the show nice to be here first starters can you tell us a little bit about how this technology works what's so special about it this isn't your typical g.p.s. tracking the true position makes equipment that sits on every cell tower that a mobile has and it allows them to triangulate a phone very accurately based on timing information very complex but the short version is they will to figure out where users are inside buildings which is something that yes doesn't do whenever you turn on one call is made or more importantly and for people who care about privacy whenever the government asks the position provide this technology they don't sell it to the government in this
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country they say they just provide it the phone companies and then the phone companies are free to do with it as they please and of course we know that many phone companies in this country are in bed with the government and so of course this technology on the day that comes from it is making its way more than likely into the hands of intelligence agencies and law enforcement so you think that probably. more often than not. that probably our government has in some way already been able to take advantage of this because if you think about it they can't legally go through this company right they can't legally just ask you to monitor an entire area our entire city and check people's phones so the true position doesn't have the data in many cases it's the phone companies that have the data they provide the tools that can then be used i'm lies the state or the car the hardware that gets into the phone system through positional for sort of two kinds of services one is this jew location functionality this used for nine one one we know for example the telephone companies in the u.s. and around the world routinely receive requests for people's location information
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but your position also does which i think is really fascinating you know the nine eleven stuff seems heartless and after i bet it seems like something that helps people more than one once that can also be used whenever the government says they say you know we want to know where chris is right now they can ping my phone and find out where i am but you know no matter whether i'm indoors or outdoors or it we know that happens what's new in this article is a description of true positions of geo fencing software so what they do is they draw a virtual fence around a house of a nuclear facility a military base you know any place of interest and to position the software can allow the phone company to spot new devices whenever they enter that virtual perimeter so you can imagine the government has a list of all the employees of a nuclear power plant or a university and whenever someone who is not normally there shows up they get an alert now the problem is you know this kind of consciously while it may be cool and useful it may not actually be legal certainly in the u.s. i don't see a way for this to be used in the law enforcement context normally requests for the go to from the government have to be for specific individuals you can't just say
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you know we want to blanket search of anyone who enters the zone and so there are some really fascinating questions specifically with regard to this feature because we don't know if it's being used here and you know while it may be used to broad true position hasn't revealed which countries they've sold this song. well that's right they have they won't tell you who it is that they're working with but i think we have to assume that this is profitable for them great i mean this is not a charity and you know they are not in this to help you know the children out there they sell software they sell functionality for i believe very very high prices and the kinds of governments that are interested generally are not doing this because they want to you know keep tabs on you know what children are doing at night these these governments around the world are doing this because they want to keep track of dissidents and so to position isn't the only company that makes this kind of stuff there's a sort of small group of companies that make this stuff but they all sort of keep below the radar because they're not selling equipment to consumers they're selling
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at the rectory to the phone companies and to foreign governments we know for example that vodafone egypt in two thousand and eight was forced to reveal to the government the name is and people who are in a bread riot in the streets. people are in the street they have the phones in their pockets the phone company knows where they are the government comes with a request i mean they know they if the government has guns on the phone company doesn't you know you know that the phone company is going to coughing up information but what we should be asking here is why are u.s. companies u.s. companies that have to comply with u.s. laws selling to this kind of software or to governments around the world that may not respect human rights i mean i don't really think the u.s. government spokesman right but certainly middle eastern governments and governments around the world do not respect human rights at all and they shouldn't be getting this functionality why haven't you know that you brought out because i think that of course a lot of people would argue that they're a private business this is absolutely within their right to do so but then is there some type of should they have some kind of moral qualms one may think about who they sell this technology to how it might be used do they hold any responsibility
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for what happens afterwards so they told spencer ackerman from our century that you know it's up to the government to respect human rights once it leaves their office you know they don't know what it's being used for and you know that kind of argument doesn't really hold water when it's what weapons dealers who are. selling equipment and i don't think it's that it should really apply. you know if it anyway when it's softer and he's making the right if if you are building software that's helping the chinese build a great part of our wall of china you should be held accountable if you're building a communications intercept here that's not in the iranian spy on this event you should be held accountable and i think we should be i mean i think congress should be looking into this and finding out which governments the stuff being sold how are they really how are they keeping everything so far below the radar he said because they're not selling it to consumers but why can't there be an investigation now that would have to be investigations or congress would have to take an interest you know it's sort of strange normally you wouldn't expect congress to say look in so what about bahraini government is doing given that we have such close close its
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eyes usually are you know the government are our government takes an interest in what other sketchy government are doing only once we have broken relations with them right now in egypt or sort of the broader but before we were happy to have your big sort of the well a true position name that most of us have never heard about obviously important out there chris thanks so much for joining us tonight. and still to come the governor here in the u.s. marines are told time award after asking people in her state her brain and happy hour carmageddon turns into a huge bust last c.n.n. honors nelson mandela on this very day very strange way to stick around. you know sometimes to see a story and seeing so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and here's some other part of it you realize that everything you saw. her was a big. relief
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well. we have a. safe ready freedom. all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and i to go to oklahoma governor mary fallin the republican is only a few months into her first term as governor but she is facing a very serious issue and i'm not talking about a state budget shortfall or a scandal in her administration this one involves the weather oklahoma like most of
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us in the middle of a major heat wave over the past few weeks temperatures of talk to one hundred in this day and it has not rained in weeks either so late last week governor fallin decided the state needed help and the higher power she should the following statement saying i encourage oklahomans of all pace to join me this sunday and offering their prayers for rate. the safety of our firefighters in our community is in the well being of our crops and livestock this state needs the current drought to come to an end the power of prayer is a wonderful thing and i would ask every oklahoman to look to a greater power this week and ask for rain i'm just wondering did everyone in oklahoma spend sunday on their knees praying for rain from the looks of t.v. station websites in oklahoma city i'm guessing they maybe did it. only. for you so what. you want you can buy a month. ago i asked all my friends to play at the exact same time like
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simultaneously we play like really rain or turn on the air conditioned that bad a man and i get it but it's still the market isn't there and we need to keep you playing. our you know the real question is did governor palin's request for rain work there enough people to stay given up praise to god to end his drought and i don't want to be the debbie downer here but we checked the weather channel's forecast for oklahoma city and it's going to be one hundred or above for the next ten days and there is not a drop of rain in the forecast to get power of prayer isn't working now i'm not here to criticize those who are people of faith who pray because that's absolutely right and that's their decision to do so but can we not draw a line when it comes to the government calling for its if you remember governor mary bell is not the first politician to try this old pray for rain gimmick texas governor rick perry trying to back in april his state was dealing with massive wildfires and no rain so after perry's day of prayer nothing changed in fact recent headlines in the state of place taxes in a severe drought with no measurable rain for more than seven months. so sorry guys
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but god is obviously not listening to these g.o.p. governors maybe governor mary fallin to try and convince her fellow lawmakers the climate change israel stop praying that god is going to send rain to your state and i doubt that's ever going to happen because bowing and her fellow g.o.p. governors just love pandering to that religious right and that's what makes her tonight still a time when. ok it's time for a happy hour on this monday evening and joining me tonight is artie producer lucy half enough and matt welch are there and she of reason magazine thank you thank you cheers today you guys didn't know is nelson mandela's ninety third birthday and it. is that i have to bring in a very special guest for this event take a look. we are wishing
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a happy birthday to nelson mandela he's ninety three years old today we are joined from new york by going freeman a strong promoter of mandela day a great singer too we found out mr freeman what exactly is the mission. i'm sorry but it is to buy you can't get nelson mandela who let's just bring in the guy that played him once in a movie and all americans will be fooled right. i mean. i know you are a voter like they said if you don't think i'm getting the birthday they got the word this morning and i'm going off the street who happens to be black yeah that would pretty much suck but let's give them a little bit of credit is terrible c.n.n. is i mean mandela did play i mean morgan freeman played mandela in the movie he is i think on the other yeah you know that's pretty shocking god you definitely should just bring in morgan freeman had it for a little funny no you can't you know it's my appreciate my humor and doing it all without any you know what while not smiling and pretending as if it's serious i you know i think the next step is to interview the avatars from taiwanese animation.
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humans altogether well this has been made before any of you guys have seen dinners with marks out there is a. very. old. french morgan freeman. that's a little already been seen before about the writer yeah it is hard to fill twenty four hours i'm just wondering you know how many people out there probably would confuse morgan freeman or nelson mandela i mean and the sad thing is i think at the end of the day most people don't even know exactly what it is that nelson mandela did they know that he's a good guy and he's from south africa and that's pretty much the same in played in a movie yes it's a good guy to work on electric cars. ok guys i don't know where you're getting there we've got morgan freeman because i want your company was right and left for a company you know where my children know the children's t.v. show when we were growing up my days i wasn't growing up same time you were growing
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up. i went there ok let's move on to a real schmuck herman cain who obviously doesn't like muslims now is decided to just take away right but in any community you can say we don't want to a mosque in our community they could say that chris let's go back to the fundamental issue that the people. basically saying that they objected to be objecting to the fact that is the law is both a religion and a set of laws should realize that you're saying any community if they want to ban a mosque yes they have the right to do their. ok eg no you don't actually have the right to do that on friday he was comparing complaining that if people do build mosques it's infringing upon his freedom of religion but also just cracks me up to hear that because i'm sorry to how many christian religious. laws are used in american laws when it comes to marriage or abortion or some of those issues
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ironically about five years ago there was a wave of local ordinances and state laws that were passed at the b. has of course of the christian right to protect. churches from overzealous zoning laws that were all dressed up as oh we're worried about parking but really didn't want the freak or church on the corner here it's weird that we're suddenly panicking about muslims about eight years after the last person was really honestly scared about sharia law or muslims in this country it's a strange and terrible thing and i think just what is quite appalling for he have now i mean it could be ten years since nine eleven and now suddenly we have these massive waves of islamophobia i don't know i mean it's i mean the same thing happened to bush and actually grow versus wait did not spark a big backlash on the religious right in one nine hundred seventy four and one nine hundred seventy five kind of metastasized around one thousand nine hundred ninety once maybe people just sat around for a long time and then said hey we can freak out about this and then it came to fruition i mean i don't know i just love the fact that you know we can talk about
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the constitution and all or all these constitutionally protected rights but when a muslim does it suddenly it means the complete opposite of what it means for the rest of us here in america might you meet is great i mean you know those traditional religions that you're for it's like christianity it's not like they ever use the church pulpit try to influence policy and come on i fairly just take everyone and while to really think they think i'm ok on friday we wait but i ready for acting like carmageddon was going to be the biggest deal of all time and it turns out that it wasn't you can look at it. good news come again it was a lot like the white u.k. press a lot of hype that never materialized l.a. commuters apparently he did the morning stand up highways over the weekend when crews were tearing up part of the four or five. maybe if you don't call it carmageddon applique it's going to be the biggest deal of all time going to be embarrassed on monday morning when you have to report on something that didn't actually happen that you thought was going to be going to the world this proved if there's any one class that's even more clueless than las political leaders it's
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news media i lived in l.a. and was born raised in southern california ninety four olympics is exact same thing this is going to be the mother of all traffic jams it's going to be an embarrassment a national disgrace and a lot and of course people respond and they say ok maybe i won't drive on the freeway much to everyone's shock it was the least traffic anyone had ever seen in history we probably completely forgot about tire. i think it's kind of nice because a fisa keeps all those cops busy and they don't have time to bust down on doors of innocent little families and shoot their dogs and arrest people. there are sitting around looking at it give them something everyone he's instead i want to be they like gave some citations to a bunch of cyclists in a seventy year old jogger i think it's not it's a good maybe your kid. didn't deserve a citation this story is i just really like this and this is my favorite thing to look at the clip explains itself sixty one year old you carried me in may of long is accused of grabbing the left breast of a female t.s.a. agent on thursday. refused passenger screening became argumentative and then used
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both hands to squeeze and twist the agent's breast she's now facing a felony charge of sexual assault. i'm sorry so you know i mean are you going to cut my mother thing or does he say agents deserve to be sexually assaulted but first that's a really funny way for somebody to finally kind of fight back right like we haven't seen that yet we've seen people want to videotape them for it but we haven't seen anybody thing. i know this will pay all of us grow. even i'm just more curious about how she used both hands to twit i guess i guess the whole. book yet you know i don't condone nonconsensual nipple twisting of t.s.a. agents necessarily but use them times it's interesting of course that she will of course get prosecuted to the full extent of the law and people within the t.s.a. even if they're not following procedures who do things that are completely invasive to people will never get prosecuted to any extent of any law which is the ongoing
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state of security in power in this country i mean if they start wearing diapers and start asking them to take out their diapers we're going to in a probe so. ok i think we've got to wrap it up there and i'm also not advocating for anybody to get actually a false if the ironic thanks. i think thanks for tuning in i make the come back on wednesday we're off tomorrow due to scheduled maintenance repairs thompson from the atlantic is going to be here when we return wednesday for another dose of happy hour in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of a lot of shows on facebook and of all of us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other night you know he's captured all of you tube dot com plus they like to play first interviews as well as the show in its entirety coming up next as adults than them.
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