in making the founding fathers of the united states my founding fathers too and other questions now honest run to a tweet from bo he tweeted the daily show needs to interview the alone a show that would be so entertaining so i just want to say i am totally on board of that idea jon if you're listening out there i want to point i promise at that for my ranting today i have more as usual for you later in the week. the sky. the line will come down. some last few carriers will be singing. ladies and gentlemen the justice system has just given us a glimmer of hope when it comes to court cases surrounding the punishment of whistleblowers see just a short while back we first told you about thomas drake former n.s.a. employee who was accused of felony espionage charges when he shared information about wasteful government spending with the newspaper the baltimore sun now the original sentence from drake was approximately thirty five years behind bars until

earlier this year when prosecutors realized that they didn't have a strong enough case against him and ease their accusations from espionage to exceeding of the authorized use of a computer just a misdemeanor charge sudden change of heart that happened to take place right after the new yorker's jane mayer detailed the absurdity absurdity of the government's charges and a very lengthy piece for that magazine now in u.s. district judge richard bennett finally heard the case he further scolded prosecutors for their very meager attempts at trying to imprison a whistleblower and he ultimately sentenced rake to do a hundred forty hours of community service and a year of probation so needless to say drake was very pleased with judge bennett's ruling. experience of response from boy and his demeanor demonstrates just real the end because truth doesn't matter. where you get the next target associated with. which. i absolutely agree with drake the government is simply conducting a witch shines and it's relentless prosecution of whistleblowers something that

puts all government employees willing to put themselves on the line in the name of truth in danger let's go back to drake's case of a former n.s.a. worker was relieved when he heard a sentence i think you should receive any punishment at all for starters it dre didn't leak classified information that's a statement he stood by for the past four years how the fact of the prosecution couldn't even form and of evidence against him to convict him of felony charges after all that time so i guess instead of further embarrassing themselves well they decided to bring down their original charges and ask for a plea deal instead that at least a judge bennett could see through this flaky case of the government brought against drake but it scolded the justice department for their actions saying that he was appalled by the time lapse between when drake's house was first first raided over two years ago until when he was charged and he claimed that it did not pass the smell test and he's right as time went on it became very clear that team bush and then obama were going to go after anybody who put the government in a bad light even an n.s.a.

employee who merely shared information of government waste with the press and despite the fact that he didn't leak any classified information that could damage national security obama wanted to set a precedent to keep anybody else from trying to do the same but the federal courts saw through the government's pulling efforts stopped them in their tracks saving an innocent man from spending decades behind bars for a crime they didn't commit so here you have a folks a true glimmer of hope the team obama is at war and whistleblowers can in fact be stopped. now are you ready to hear about the most important geo location company you've never heard of or for the usual suspects fans out there the kaiser soze say of global phone tracking and spencer ackerman from wired's danger room call that today it's a company called true position based out of pennsylvania holding of liberty media which also owns sirius x.m. and the atlanta braves basically people have money and if you have eight hundred eighty or t.v. mobile that they have the technology to locate nine one one calls and use and do so

with over sixty million calls in the u.s. annually according to ackerman but that's not all the it turns out that over the last four years this company has had a lot of worldwide interest and it's location intelligence as a security tool so for they won't tell anybody which countries they have those contracts with all providing at this incredible technological told they also take a none of the blame for how it's used and say that it's up to the governments to adhere to their own laws so why we've heard so little about them and should we be worried joining me to discuss it is christopher so going security and privacy researcher and graduate fellow indiana university center for applied cybersecurity research chris thanks so much for coming back on the show nice to be here for starters can you tell us a little bit about how this technology works what's so special about it this isn't your typical g.p.s. tracking the true position makes quitman that sits on every cell tower that the mobile has and it allows them to triangulate a phone very accurately based on timing information very complex but the short version is they will to figure out where users are inside buildings which is

something the g.p.s. doesn't do whenever either anonyma one call is made or more importantly and for people who care about privacy whenever the government asks the true position provide this technology they don't sell it to the government in this country they say they just provide it to the phone companies and then the phone companies are free to do with it as they please and of course we know that many phone companies in this country or in bed with the government and so of course this technology and the data that comes from it is making its way more than likely into the hands of intelligence agencies and law enforcement so you think that probably. more often than not. that probably our government has some in some way already been able to take advantage of this because if you think about it they can't legally go through this company right they can't legally just ask you to monitor an entire area our entire city and check people's phones so the true position doesn't have the data in many cases it's the phone companies that have the data they provide the tools that can then be used to analyze this data or the or the hardware that fits into the phone system to position offer sort of two kinds of services one is this

geolocation functionality this used for nine one one we know for example the telephone companies in the u.s. and around the world routinely receive requests for people's location information or to position also does which i think is really fascinating yet the nine eleven stuff seems harmless enough right that seems like something that helps people while they're not on ones that can also be used whenever the government says they say you know we want to know where chris is right now they can ping my phone and find out where i am you know no matter whether i'm indoors or outdoors or that we know that happens what's new in this article is a description of two positions a geo fencing software so what they do is they draw a virtual fence around a house of a nuclear facility a military base you know any place of interest and to position the software can allow the phone company to spot new devices whenever they enter that virtual perimeter so you could imagine the government has a list of all the employees of a nuclear power plant or a university and whenever someone who is not normally there shows up they get an alert now the problem is you know this kind of functionality while it may be cool

and useful it may not actually be legal certainly in the us i don't see a way for this to be used in the law enforcement context normally requests for the go from the government have to be for specific individuals you can't just say you know we want to blanket search of anyone who enters this is own and so there are some really fascinating questions specifically with regard to this feature because we don't know if it's being used here and you know while it may be used abroad true position hasn't revealed which countries they've sold this song. well that's right they haven't they won't tell you who it is that they're working with but i think we have to assume that this is profitable for them right i mean this is not a charity and you know they are not in this to help you know the poor children out there they sell software they sell functionality probably very very high prices and the kinds of governments that are interested generally are not doing this because they want to you know keep tabs on you know what children are doing at night these these governments around the world are doing this because they want to keep track

of dissidents and so to position isn't the only company that makes this kind of stuff there's a sort of small group of companies that make this stuff but they all sort of keep below the radar because they're not selling equipment to consumers they're selling that directly to the phone companies and to foreign governments we know for example that vodafone egypt in two thousand and eight was forced to reveal to the government the names and the people who are in a bread riot in the streets right people are in the street they have the phones in their pockets the phone company knows where they are the government comes with a request and then the other day if the government has guns on the phone company doesn't you know you know the phone company is going to be coughing up the information but what we should be asking here is why are u.s. companies u.s. companies that have to comply with u.s. laws selling their this kind of software to governments around the world that may not respect human rights i mean i don't really think the u.s. government spokesman writes but certainly middle eastern governments and governments around the world do not respect human rights at all and they shouldn't be getting this functionality why haven't you know that you brought that up because

i think that of course a lot of people would argue that there are private business this is absolutely within their right to do so but then is there some type of should they have some kind of moral qualms when they think about who they sell this technology to how it might be used do they hold any responsibility for what happens afterwards so they told spencer ackerman from wired essentially that you know it's up to the government to respect human rights once it leaves their office you know they don't know what it's being used for and you know that kind of argument doesn't really hold water when it's what weapons dealers who are. selling equipment and i don't think it should should really apply should you know give it anyway when it's software companies making stuff right if if you are building software that's helping the chinese build their great far far wall of china you should be held accountable if you're building a communications intercept here that's helping the iranians spy on dissidents you should be held accountable and i think we should be i think congress should be looking into this and finding out which governments the stuff being sold how are they were how are they keeping everything so far below the radar he said because they're not selling it to consumers but why can't there be an investigation right

that would have to do investigations or congress would have to take an interest you know it's sort of strange normally you wouldn't expect congress to say look into what the bahraini government is doing given that we have such close close its eyes usually are you know the government are our government takes an interest in what other sketchy government is doing only want to be broken relations with them right so now in egypt or sort of on the road a bit before we were happy to have you're being sold to the right well a true position name that most of us have never heard about obviously an important one out there chris thanks so much for joining us tonight. well still to come governor here in the u.s. marines are tool time award after asking people in her state of brain and happy hour carmageddon turns into a huge bust plus c.n.n. honors nelson mandela on his part a very strange way to stick around for. discovery .

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all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to oklahoma governor mary fallin to the republican is only a few months into her first term as governor but she is facing a very serious issue and i'm not talking about a state budget shortfall or

a scandal in her administration this one involves the weather oklahoma like most of the u.s. is in the middle of a major heat wave over the past few weeks temperatures of top one hundred in this day and it has not rained in weeks either so late last week governor fallin decided the state needed help from a higher power she issued the following statement saying i encourage oklahomans of all faiths to join me this sunday and offering their prayers for rain for the safety of our firefighters in our communities in the well being of our crops and livestock this state needs a current drought to come to an end the power of prayer is a wonderful thing and i would ask every oklahoman to look to a greater power this weekend and ask for rain so i'm just wondering did everyone in oklahoma spend sunday on their knees praying for rain or from the looks of t.v. station websites in oklahoma city i'm guessing they maybe did. we want someone to want to know what you can like what it was like to know

what we were going i asked all my friends to play at the exact same time like simultaneously we play like play rain or turn on the air conditioner that day and that i had better at it still than mark is in there we need to keep you playing some are now the real question is did governor palin's request for rain work that have people in the state given up praise to god to end this drought and i want to be debbie downer here but we checked the weather channel's forecast for oklahoma city and it's going to be one hundred or above for the next ten days and there is not a drop of rain in the forecast to get that power of prayer isn't working quite yet now i'm not here to criticize those who are people of faith who pray because that's absolutely right and that's their decision to do so but can we not draw a line when it comes to the government calling for its if you remember governor mary fallin is not the first ball edition to try this old pray for a gimmick texas governor rick perry trying to back in april his state was dealing with massive wildfires and no rain so after perry's a day of prayer nothing changed in fact a recent headlines in the state

a place texas in a severe drought with no measurable rain for more than seven months so sorry guys but god is obviously not listening to these g.o.p. governors maybe governor mary fallin to try and convince her fellow lawmakers the climate change is real stop praying that god is going to send rain your state but i doubt that's ever going to happen because bowing and her fellow g.o.p. governors just love pandering to that religious right and that's what makes her tonight's told time winner. ok time for happy hour on this monday evening and joining me tonight is r t producer lucy catherine off and matt welch editor in chief of reason magazine thank you. thank you cheers today you guys didn't know is nelson mandela's ninety third birthday and c.n.n. decided to bring in a very special guest for this event take

a look. we are wishing a happy birthday to nelson mandela he's ninety three years old today we are joined from new york by organ freeman a strong promoter of mandela day a great singer too we found out mr freeman what exactly is the mission. i'm sorry what it is to why you can't get nelson mandela so let's just bring in the guy that played him once in a movie and all americans will be fooled. i mean. i know you know her motor like they said of the whole thing then goes on ferdie day they got the word this morning and got off the street who happened to be black yeah that would pretty much suck but let's give them a little bit of credit is terrible c.n.n. is i mean mandela did play i mean morgan freeman played mandela in the movie his guiding light on the other yeah you know that's pretty talk to god you definitely should just bring in morgan freeman a little funny no you can't you know it's my appreciate my humor i mean doing it all without any you know what while not smiling and pretending as if it's serious

you know i think the next step is to interview the avatars from the taiwanese animation and you just be done with humans all together well this joke has been made before any of you guys have seen dinners with dinner with schmucks out there. oh my. french is morgan freeman. that's the reason since only four hours and that's even better yeah it is hard to fill twenty four hours i'm just wondering you know how many people out there probably would confuse morgan freeman for nelson mandela well i mean and the sad thing is i think at the end of the day most people don't even know exactly what it is that nelson mandela did they know that he is a good guy and he is from south africa and that's pretty much saying we played him in a movie yes it's a good guy to especially work on electric company ok guys i don't know where you're getting there with morgan freeman was an electric company was an electric company you know my children know the children's t.v.

show and we were growing up my parents i wasn't growing up same time you were growing up i. know my moving right i went there ok let's move on to a real schmuck herman cain who obviously doesn't like muslims now is decided to. just take a life side but any community then say we don't want to a mosque in our community they could say that chris let's go back to the fundamental issue that the people. basically saying that they object into they objecting to the fact that islam is both a religion and a set of lol shari'a law so you're saying any community if they want to ban a mosque yes they have the right to do that. ok ed no you don't actually have the right to do that on friday he was compared complaining that if people do build mosques it's infringing upon his freedom of religion but also just cracks me up to hear that because i'm sorry but how many christian religious you know laws are used

in american laws when it comes to marriage or abortion or some of those issues ironically about five years ago there was a wave of local ordinances and state laws that were passed at the behest of evangelicals of the christian right to protect. churches from overzealous zoning laws that were all dressed up as oh we're worried about parking but really they didn't want the freak or church on the corner here it's weird that we're suddenly panicking about muslims about eight years after the last person was really honestly scared about sharia law or muslims in this country it's a strange and terrible thing and i think just what disqualified him for he has now i think it's going be ten years since nine eleven and now suddenly we have these massive waves of islamophobia i don't know i mean it's i mean the same thing have with abortion actually did not spark a big backlash on the religious right in one nine hundred seventy four and one nine hundred seventy five a kind of metastasized around one thousand nine hundred ninety nine he wants maybe people just sat around for a long time and then said hey we could freak out about this minute but it came to

fruition i mean i don't know i just love the fact that you know we can talk about the constitution and all our all these constitutionally protected rights but when a muslim does it suddenly it means the complete opposite of what it means for the rest of us here in america what do you mean it is great i mean you know those traditional religions that you're for it's like christianity it's not like they ever use the church pulpit to try to influence policy i mean come on but apparently it just takes everyone and while to the. meeting they think these things ok on friday we made fun of everybody for acting like carmageddon was going to be the biggest deal of all time and it turns out that it wasn't take a look at this. the good news time again was a lot like the y2k threat a lot of hype that never materialized l.a. commuters apparently he did the morning stay off the highways over the weekend when crews were tearing up part of the four o five and. maybe if you don't call it carmageddon act like it's going to be the biggest deal of all time you don't have to be embarrassed on monday morning when you have to report on something that didn't actually happen that you thought was going to be the end of the world this proved if there's any one class that's even

more clueless than las political leaders it's news media i lived in l.a. and was born raised in southern california one hundred eighty four olympics exact same thing this is going to be the mother of all traffic jams it's going to be an embarrassment a national disgrace and a blot and of course people respond and they say ok maybe i won't drive on the freeway much to everyone's shock it was the least traffic anyone had ever seen in history we probably completely forgot about tire history and i think it's kind of nice because it's nice to keep those cops busy and they don't have time to bust down on doors of innocent little families and shoot their dogs and arrest people. there are sitting around looking at him sent him where he was instead and what do they like gave some citations to a bunch of cyclists in a seventy year old jogger i think we just saw that said yeah maybe a kid rode through and they. didn't deserve a citation this story is that i just really like this one this is my favorite take a look at the clip it explains itself. sixty one year old you carried me in may of long is accused of grabbing the left breast of a female t.s.a. agent on thursday do you say staff samia may refuse passenger screening became

argumentative and then use both hands to squeeze and twist the agent's breast she's now facing a felony charge of sexual assault. i'm sorry so you know i mean how do you know i'm not saying that the c.s. agents deserved to be sexually assaulted but first that's a really funny way for somebody to kind of fight back right like we haven't seen that yet we've seen people want to videotape it again a lot of them for it but we haven't seen anybody say it's by no insult to all of this group you backwards even i'm just more curious about how she used both hands to twit i guess i guess was a whole new. kind of book. you know i don't condone nonconsensual nipple twisting of t.s.a. agents necessarily but you sometimes it's interesting of course that she will of course to prosecute to the full extent of the law and people within the t.s.a. even if they're not following procedures who do things that are completely invasive

to people will never get prosecuted to the extent of any law which is the ongoing state of security in power in this country i mean if they start wearing diapers take out their diapers to get them in a probe so i'm like. ok i think we've got a rabbit out there and i'm also not advocating for anybody to get sexually assaulted but it's a little ironic. all right that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and make the come back on wednesday we're off tomorrow due to some scheduled maintenance thompson from the atlantic is going to be here when we return wednesday for another dose of happy hour in the meantime don't forget me. on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other. you tube dot com clash they want to show us the interviews as well as the show a little tired after next is adam versus the man.

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been found dead sean hoare was a. newspaper and. what was happening reporters to do it in. london. unexplained suspicious. well later on tuesday his son james and his former u.k. executive were sent to face the wrath of british m.p.'s to explain the scandal that shaken the press release and political establishment to its core. crisis. the senior officers resigning everything intertwined with implicated news corp stock. exchange. ian tomlinson died in london's g. twenty protest in two thousand and nine after being pushed to the ground by p.c. simon harwood how would said he'd been prevented from giving first date by

a bay in bottle throwing more he later admitted that happened happened john schollers day monette's as shot by police in a london underground station in two thousand and five officers allegedly leaked a report saying he'd fled from police c.c.t.v. images later showed this wasn't true. less well known is michael daugherty a man who went to the police for help only for it to turn into a cough to ask where both allegedly false statements and mistreatment. protection from. doherty told police he suspected his thirteen year old daughter was being groomed by a paedophile concerned they referred it to his local station sex crime unit then nothing after two weeks doctors he phoned the unit secretary that's when the trouble started just breaks for us nick.