it's the. cut cap and big ring over the budget political wrangling is being blamed for a stalled deal over raising the debt ceiling well it may be business as usual in the west critics are saying enough is enough. and if it bleeds it leads third u.k. cowboy tactics leaving over to this side of the pond. plus we've all heard of cheap labor abroad but what about right here in the good ole usa find out how the military is cashing in on inmates to fuel their industrial complex. the people who own this. estate. are doing crimes against this country in all times of the world and from backward deals from bohemian grove we'll have more we'll tell

you what dark secrets protesters have found about the historic men's club the news starts now. deal or no deal that's certainly a fourteen point three trillion dollar and counting question i'm talking about the debt ceiling of course and to raise that there is the debt debate let's see there is the gang of six plan the cut cap and balance proposal and other words you have plans that have support but no fine print written on paper yet plans that passed that have no future it's confusing it's driving anger at the government to a near twenty year high u.s. politics folks so why do we accept it as such here to help me figure that out is sam seder he is host of the majority report a daily political talk show sam thanks so much for being with us i want to take a step back first. i can't pretend that we don't follow and analyze this as closely

as we do as far as us politics i just look at it as we would kind of looking in let's take the house they voted to pass their cut cap and balance plan that reportedly they know had no future in the senate won't pass it obama said he did it so why would they do that with so little time left before the country defaults well i mean look if we if we are not following this stuff we're only we're only partially thinking about it unless frankly were the partiers the tea partiers believe that if we raise the debt ceiling which which is happened. either six times over the course of the bush administration for instance that it will be the end of america for some reason because that's what their leaders have told them so the groupie theater that we saw the other day in the house was basically so that these are republican lawmakers can go back to their most fanatical constituents and say look you know we were willing to. do attempt to do to usurp the entire budgetary

process as a way of cutting spending and they just didn't go anywhere but we took that vote i mean that's basically why they do it we're going to we're looking in on the outside we're just saying why can't they get this done so what happens when they turn around those lawmakers and then they do vote for another plan or they get behind a plan that obama to force does not make them look a little harsh. well i mean that's why there's such a stalemate is that they have a talk themselves into a box however if the obama administration continues to push a plan that's going to cut social security and going to cut medicare then at the very least i can assure you what they're going to end up doing is they're going to run against democrats on that very issue but let's back up and look at this from like the thirty thousand foot perspective looking at american politics is it ludicrous that a group of lawmakers will vote for something that they know can't pass to kind of

make a statement to their constituents then turn around vote for something else because they know something has to get done is it ludicrous the way our system works that this is normal well you know i listen there's a certain amount of theater in politics there's a certain amount of you take votes that might not lead to any type of legislation but you stake out a political position i'm not as offended by that as by what they may actually end up passing frankly but what about the theater over something that is literally bringing the country two weeks away from get up it's incredibly irresponsible i mean there's really no other way to say it i mean. this is this is simply pure partisan and it's not even partisan it's just pure politics for the sake of their jobs and the idea that they're going to play chicken with this before all it is is it should be terrifying for most americans frankly because this could have real

implications on our daily lives so should there be a point at which this political theater doesn't happen are certain topics that people don't tolerate as political theater goes on. well you know i mean in short you know. that really sometimes it takes the the implications. of something like a default i think to wake people up just exactly what's going on the wake people up to what because of course we have an a.b.c. news washington post poll that came out today that shows that eighty percent of the people polled are dissatisfied or are flat out angry about the work that government is doing and they can narrow it down to this debt ceiling debate because that's when these numbers started really going south compared to past numbers so why aren't americans in the streets upset demanding that their government works. you know i that's the sixty four thousand dollar question i mean i think to a certain extent we're at a time in this country of unprecedented wage stagnation for the middle class where

it's i'm in this country. incredible joblessness that we haven't seen in years we're we're we're still in the not so accurately we're still feeling we're still feeling the effects of the recession and to the extent that we've had a growth coming out of it it's all been on the corporate profits and i think frankly people are trying to make ends meet i think that there's such anxiety about how they're going to. make you know make their health care payments make their car payments make their mortgage payments that there's just simply isn't the time or the security to get involved in politics i mean that's the only explanation i can offer and really quickly yes or no do you think with how much news comes out on this every minute every second all of these different plans all of these different it's very confusing even to someone that's following it closely do you think it's too difficult for americans who are trying to form an opinion to follow this

process yeah it's a very arcane process and i think at the end of the day they want to see jobs yeah we don't know when the conversation is ever going to shift to that in washington or if it well the debt certainly is taking out any of that bandwidth and we don't know where the economy is headed yet as a result of this stalemate and also today we also don't know where the u.s. media is headed report murdoch of course his hacking scandal has brought up many questions on that topic and one that lloyd carr finessed of the president brought to people on the streets of new york where you are is vitality journalism has gotten so big let's watch that and then i'll come back a sam. how did tabloid journalism become so influential and so popular in cities where it's this week let's talk about i mean people. to read about other people's business. now if the newspapers have to try to compete with the internet. with up to

date you know. i think it's absolute trash there's no space in this world for it all i hope they'll go under but they're not going under they're increasing in power i don't believe that this is going to be the biggest takedown ever rupert murdoch is going down i think it's more of a pop culture based audience and so the journalists kind of cater to that and in turn it's kind of fun for them city's secrets like this but isn't it terrible i mean it might be fun but it's still criminal acts it's horrible i hate ernest's you know whatever that whatever it takes to get the story or whoever they want you know do you do you have that attitude at your job no not at all so what makes journalists actual they're not special there are the opposite of special they have no scruples we have of them are true because. people.

like that. that's not what journalism's but it's typically what's true but never believe the media's. if it is going to keep getting worse probably do you think journalism like that is bound to spread around the world and become as rampant as it is the britain i do unfortunately and it really isn't journalism i mean there is no logical reason to garbage the bottom line is that if the rampant popularity of tabloid journalism in the u.k. is any indication the rest of the world should be prepared for their own journalism to get a lot dirtier. and aside from a lot of trash talking i'm paralyzed in that story there are a lot of questions about. is that kind of journalism going to just spread not only does this question what's going to happen to murdoch but it does show the power of

the empire he built what he did in a u.k. was he kind of revolutionized newspapers in a direction that merged tabloid with political in a powerful way where you had papers that you went to for both celebrity gossip but they could also make or break political elections so how soon until this does become the model in the u.s. as it certainly seems to be the direction things are moving in. well you know look i think that was a murdoch's plan wasn't it i mean he always wanted to have seen the same level of political power in the united states as he had in britain and i say had because i think he's done i think i would be shocked if he's still at the helm of news corp. over the next couple of months and i think we're going to see actually a reversal of this i mean murdoch was in many ways a throwback in. professor jay rosen at n.y.u. has basically said that this was not a new company it was a media company that has a newsgroup vision that essentially functions as a lobbyist as

a lobbying arm for that media enterprise and i think murdoch wanted that political power and i suspect that anybody who takes over for murdoch and we don't know who that will be but i'm sure there will be somebody will see this this pursuit of political power just for the sake of political power to be antithetical to running a good business and what kind of a reversal a fan because come on let's look at what already is in the united states in the mainstream media we saw one of the biggest stories this summer that has been poll last third all over that twenty four hour cable news networks have been casey anthony which was a very tabloidy case very tabloidy coverage analyzing every in an out of one young girl's trial looking at it like a soap opera watching it like you know greeks you know gladiator fights or something because you just want to see this tragedy play out before you you have that you have websites like i can post which have had to bring an entertainment in order to get more traction you have t.v.

journalists as actually becoming celebrities i want to bring up i can't help but bring up the picture that anderson cooper tweeted can we bring out a play it's him you know topless coverage and he's tweeting that it gets picked up by celebrity web sites just showing kind of that t.v. journalists are celebrities. or maybe feel like they need to build themselves up celebrities and all seems to be moving in this direction even if you take fox news and new york post reporter out publication out of the picture well look i don't think that you're ever going to scapegoat elements of of period interest and sensationalism i mean you can go back to the fatty arbuckle case you know one hundred years ago near and near now this is always been around it will always be around to really talk because aspects of what was going on with news corp was that not only did they have the scruples of this sensationalist the tabloid

journalism but they had the political power outside of that that essentially kept that kept the politicians that they kept politicians in line and that's the part that i think we're going to see slowly melt away we're not going to get rid of those celebrity journalism we're going to see more and more of it but what we won't see i believe in the in the near future is a is a melding of that type of sensationalism along with a. an inordinate amount of political power but how can you say that along with a lot of time and taken out political power you're saying you don't think that these two are going to be melded or continue to be one of the last time you saw something like casey anthony which really was kind of tabloid and gossipy get so much play on c.n.n. a thailand and that's n.b.c. and fox news an a.b.c. and n.b.c. one of the time you saw something like that well i mean it was the last case of you know a white girl going down a well it was gary condit it was o.j.

simpson has been with in the basement because absolutely i mean this was just a girl well i mean look we see these cases all the time and we're going to we're going to see more of jon benet ramsey i mean the list goes on this is what the this is what made cable news. frankly was was these type of cases that they really have no bearing on anyone's life i mean frankly o.j. simpson a famous retired football player but it is his case had absolutely nothing to do with anyone's lives other than. by you know who shot jr on dallas did well the last time you saw someone from them most trusted name in news topless covered in mud being tweeting that picture of himself well maybe i'm not watching them enough. but you know we have seen this kind of thing i mean you know fox news has always had that type of celebrity girly wolf blitzer made his name. chloe i mean wearing

a tough guy that you know there's there's always been a lot of this yes i think there's more in t.v. news in cable news to make celebrities out of people but this isn't the most nefarious aspect of it that's more of a reflection sadly. on what arse our society ingests and frankly what's cheaper and easier for the networks to do i mean rather than actually going out and doing real reporting in real journalism if you can don't your host in a vat of mud and that helps with your ratings it's easier to do it there you go i got myself in mind to get more people to watch the action this is going on and i will i will retrieve that picture all right well that was fanfare thank you so much as i want to see what really happens with that future of news in this country that with house majority report thanks for being with us and now this next story blends our mabel and the president desk through

a complex and military industrial complex and have one big complex question mark how is that prison labor is being used to make patriot missiles for big defense have been such as lucky martin and boeing and paid nothing or nearly nothing to do the work and at the same time undercutting wages for everyone else in the country or something. in the country at least or so argues labor journalist mike elk he's here in the studio now so first mike do you think that anybody would ever think that in the united states someone did make twenty three cents an hour that that was possible yeah i mean it's it's a sad situation but you have you know nearly one out of every one hundred adults in prison and prison labor you know the the men it's about slavery don't apply to prison labor you can pay prison labor is than anyone in some states to pay its prevailing wage but in a lot of other states you can pay prison labor as much as twenty three cents an hour and most of the fence material you know all those filthy body armor that the soldiers had interact with only by prison labor almost all of the profession made

because of labor all the electronic component in patriot missiles are almost all made by the the wiring is almost all made by prison labor so then what's new here because we've you know always sort of prison labor is making license plates are making things that you know not patriot missiles perhaps but you said this is been going on so what's really new in concerning i mean to me what jumps out is how is this you know how are these laborers these slave wages being paid to people that are producing what and for private corporations for huge multinational corporations yeah i mean their government contracts so it's they're allowed to do that since that's whatever they've got on it if they government contracts although in some states but now there can be made some goods that can be sold in the private market as well you know you have changed furniture in florida making chairs for prisoners making twenty three cents an hour or so that variety of different stores so how is that legal how does that work. well i mean it's quite complex actually there's

a number of different laws being passed you know in past the united states that you're supposed to pay prison labor the prevailing wage but in a lot of places there's not that oversight so they are paid the prevailing wage that they never actually get the wage what happens is in the big reason why prison labor is expanding is that there are two things that never get cut we talk about cutting deficits the defense budget and the prison budget both of you know grown hugely over the last thirty years and even now we are talking about that in them and so how do you finance. prisons and the defense budget so the obvious answer is you use prisons to help to finance the defense budget so they pay the positionally twenty cents an hour and then the state gets some of the money as well from the private corporations and the contractor saves money has been on the pay as much so that tell you could be spending it to try to use that to some more and more we're going to be see presently being used as states have a tough time pain for the well you know i mean we saved a few going broke in prison but you know cost about sixty billion dollars

a year so that could help defray the cost to keeping people in prison so in that regard it could help some of these days that are broke that if it had been not if it means that states try to keep more people in prison because what winds up happening is companies like having really each lever and if you have so many people in prison and companies like having those people in prison because they can pay them next to nothing and that gives just another incentive to keep more and more people in prison but as that grows as this industry grows you see people that are in prison lobbies lobbying congress harder for tougher crime laws and things like that do you see it having that kind of an insidious role yeah i mean certainly look at what we know about what happened in arizona with the anti immigrant bills there what happened there was that the private prison corporations lobbied for those bills illegal immigration has gone down by two thirds in arizona but they lobbied for those bills because if you lock up immigrants then you have. more people in prison so receiving more and more laws and that's

a good example and speaking i want to bring that up because you can in arizona they passed a law where they included legislation to finish their border fence and they had a website to get donations and not to finance that and they said that they're going to be using prison labor to help defray the costs i mean i guess it would be if they're looking for a low cost way to do it i guess that would bring some political problems if they brought the other people that work for some minimum wage which would be undocumented workers that they're building a fence against what do you think of of them using prison labor for this purpose i think it's something we've seen expanded everywhere throughout the united states the use of prison labor we have two point seven million people in prison that's one out of every one hundred adults that's a huge work force and corporations really want to tap into it and a big incentive is actually quite ironic because i've read some of the transcripts or some of these conferences is that you know the people encouraging prison labor will say well you know doing business in china is so complicated you know even so

little you know it's so much easier if we just make it here in the united states and then you know we have it in the supply chain so this is actually the problem is now that the wages are getting so high in china that they want to bring it back here are prisons going to be the next china i mean prisons are china's worst nightmare i think prison labor is the only one that could really get trying to run for its money lockheed martin quickly they're eliminating sixty five hundred jobs they announced and they've laid off i guess more than ten thousand people since former defense secretary robert gates signaled a slowdown in u.s. defense spending but do you think that's really why we're seeing these job losses or do you think that they're getting more use out of the prison labor i mean you know for employ some twenty thousand people yeah well they're getting more use out of prison labor but not only that they're shipping more jobs to china lockheed martin you know increasingly all u.s. defense good for schools to be made to us but not only physically the final product is assembled here in the component parts are made in other countries so you know lockheed martin just signed a big deal with phone with china and now. you know they're making jet engine in

china as is g.'s so we're seeing more and more of those judgeship to china it's not that those jobs are going away with that lockheed martin profits are going to because the defense cuts were to see more that go elsewhere i don't keep this conversation going for one more minute how did this go from union to nonunion to prison labor and how does it affect wages of other workers. credibly adverse effect because for instance if you have. prison you know if you had workers american workers union workers making defense parks they're going to be making good salaries they're going to pensions being benefits so they live in an area then that that drives up wages you know one person makes good benefits and good sours but if you don't have that kind of job anymore and you only have these people making twenty three cents an hour it really drives down what injures and how how do the private market businesses that don't presently group compete with private market businesses that do yeah that's it that's a good point but at the same time one of the benefits is then you have you know obviously recidivism is

a problem prisoners get out of prison and it's hard for them to get reincorporated into society and so on the flip side you're getting a trained skilled workforce that's coming out of prisons they can be contributing members of society have jobs have a skill. yeah i mean the radical world but the discrimination against cons coming out of christmas so great in the middle to do that pursuit of rage in this country quite high i think the real solution is not putting so many people in prison and squish well there's your solution i just want to show what some of the other things that prison labor is making just the people kind of have a sense it's not just patriot missiles it's riot helmets it's bigger print kits it's loudspeakers it's all fog chambers it's plastic forks and cuffs it's floodlights so it's a lot of different things those are all made by unocal which employs some twenty thousand prisoners very low wages so it's really a lot you know i mean it's a great amount of stuff i mean no drill books are made in this country that are

made by prison labor well that's not but about thing i think if you're blind and you know i'm not a real book expert there's all my events with the school and you know it's incredible amount of goods were being seen made by people that make just about all right well i mean certainly had so many so much multifaceted impact on the country and will that sound like you think it just on the up and up but thank you so much for going to give on that that was labor journalist mike elk now there are a small group there not prison labor but they are protesters with hefty charges it when the government for everything from crime to conspiracy and a group of them turned out this weekend to protest the actions of government and some of america's largest corporations they stood outside of the gates of the bohemian grove where for more than one hundred years some of the most powerful men in the world have gathered there it's an all men exclusive highly secret retreat over the last few days we've been bringing you some of the things that have come

from the secret talks and meetings and dealmaking that have gone on inside the he new growth over the decades but what about the protesters outside of the bohemian grove what was there called amounted to and are they being heard were they heard this year our chief christine pradelle was there and she found out. smart meters cell phone towers any kind of radiation the talks a vacation of everybody and everything whether month vacation or an advent of protests for human growth. those who stood guard at the gates of bohemian grove had high hopes that those attending the omens retreat would pay attention to their concerns i hear over and protest against militarism and against imperialism what's happening right behind me at this place and others like it decisions are being made that affect all of us yet the people in their answer to none of us certainly they came to the right place as far as trying to reach the rich and powerful the more

than one hundred year old annual conference has been attended by everyone from dick cheney newt gingrich henry kissinger and thomas kean the man who two years after this photo was taken would head up a nine eleven commission bohemian grove is located on the outskirts of this tiny california town of monta rio and for more than thirty years protesters have also been coming through here to have their message just heard outside the gate there are messages that have over the last few years changed immensely the oligarchy that you will argue as i call it are trying to bring about a new world order but means. of all of society as we now know what their plan is to reduce the population of the planet population reduction just one of many claims and concerns by those who attended this weekend's protests blaming those inside in the past heads of major electric companies like pacific gas and electric attended bohemian grove a popular issue this year smart meters

a new technology used by some electric companies that records and communicates electricity consumption were referring to them as smart murder meters now because people are getting very very sick but he says radiation from smart meters has poisoned her daughter she's been having severe. burning in her head above the ears like fires she's had palpitations of her heart those here say the disease is called morgellons it's a new. disease that is characterized and brought down from the skies on all of us and what you do is you hold it to your skin and you'll see these opalescent luminous strands. and everybody has got this some say the men attending bohemian grove should be charged with murder though there is no evidence of it they say rituals that take place during the cremation of care ceremony involves symbolically sacrificing children the killing of children whether

ceremonial or and actuality is a crime some believe it actually happened so there was an event and it was there and that's where the true meaning of the life of this child was with the purpose of more power over this person by the catholic church and the direct evidence you know all the evidence is the child is gone there's a lot of children missing if you can just went on about the negro that was as you can see the tensions here are high with arguments breaking out between protesters become trial sacrifice and satan worship in really illegitimate plains you know really these are the far reaching probably cremation down the road a bit activist mary morris says she no longer attends the protests even though she organized them for thirty one years and has an office filled with information collected from her he me and growth she says the new generation of protesters have made the real issue of what goes on disappear there is no conspiracy happening up

there it's just rich and powerful men talking to each other exchanging information that you and i are privy to. perhaps this is one point everyone agrees on ninety five percent of us are screwed least five different ways they're laughing their butts off were there. it happens inside bohemian grove affects a large portion of the population the most have no idea this secret retreat even exists in one to real california christine for though artes and that last thought is something that maybe we all can agree on i'll leave you on that it does it for now for more on the stories we covered go to our key dot com slash usa had our you tube channel you tube dot com slash r t america follow me on twitter and stay tuned for more news. on what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who made decisions today it's already being made who can you trust no one.