welcome to the lower show the real headlines with none of the mercy me live out of washington d.c. now that i will take another look at the phone hacking scandal that engulfed the news corp and clothing over at murdoch's testimony to the british parliament yesterday was that performance the real end of his career robert greenwald bringing film stories that's also yet another statement by a u.s. official has been found to be blatantly wrong so we're going to tell you what it is when we speak with glenn greenwald and aaron swartz has been arrested for

downloading millions of documents from store on mit's network and could face up to thirty five years in prison we're going to speak about the debate over open access but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to meet. a g.o.p. presidential candidate michele bachmann is surged to the number two spot a new poll right behind mitt romney and just like all presidential campaigns this one's getting dirty anonymous former bachmann staffer told the daily caller that michele bachmann suffers from migraines and what do you know the mainstream media has just gone absolutely crazy over it. is surging in the polls but consider your migraines affect michele bachmann's ability to leave for the bachmann campaign this is a first big challenge it's an evidence evidence of what happens when you jump into into the talk range of these of these polls this story getting some traction after anonymous bachmann aides detailed years of migraines to the conservative web site

the daily caller. all right here's my issue with this yes obviously canada's health is important if we find out that they may not be fit to serve as president of the united states but michele bachmann is not the official nominee at this point we haven't gotten to the point where health records are released as they always are presidential campaigns so why are we breaking out of this right now if anybody bothered to figure out who this former staffer is whether maybe they might be working for an opponent of bachmann's that would be something wouldn't it now america blog has reported that there is some speculation that this bomb could have been dropped by tim pawlenty camp but i don't know for sure but the point is here that nobody knows for sure what the truth is yet i mean it's already breaking news it's the headline of the day on every channel and it's being discussed nonstop. why don't we cover something that we know happened something for which there is tangible proof something that actually matters of this point because it shows a greater trend in our society yesterday around one hundred fifty people gathered

to protest in dolores park in california's bay area thirty five of them were arrested. protesters with san francisco police on the street your market. would officer while you're slightly cooler over the sidewalk demonstrators said that's what police started making arrests about three goes by sunday. and they are protesting over the shooting of kenneth wade hardy nineteen year old who was shot and killed on saturday after he allegedly fired two officers today officials said that the gunshot residue was found on the man's hand which could indicate that he had fired that gun so we're still waiting for those details but this is another example of what's going on in california's bay area and the frustration between civilians and police i don't forget about the case of oscar grant or the case of charles hill both men who were fatally shot by police grant had no weapon on him he allegedly was drunk and had a knife but regardless the shooting killed trend is

a perfect sign the brutality of police in this country and that community specifically so the case of kenneth wade harding is just another sore spot now whether he fired a gun or not it's a sign of the rift that's been created the mistrust between civilians and their supposed protectors of social upheaval and this is something that people obviously feel passionate about to go out and protest but it's something of the mainstream media is happy to miss. well yesterday the world watched as rupert murdoch and his son james testified before the british parliament's culture media and sports select committee about that phone hacking scandal that's now engulfed murdoch's media empire and when it came to questions about whether or not murdoch and any idea of the wrongdoing that was going on in news of the world what we heard was the one knows if you really

want to see you legalization investigate this it's on. you know can you explain why. it is. so. now part of murdoch's defense was that he employs fifty three thousand people around the world how could he possibly know what all of them are doing but again for a man who holds the him aside grasp on the british media should know better those are the questions that are being asked as everyone speculates on the future of news corp so how's it going to end for murdoch will be almighty fall from grace or did that already have been yesterday when somebody tried to buy him. oh.

so humble day for the old man and the orc we also say about the media coverage of these hearings and the scandal overall joining me to discuss this is the founder and president of brave new films robert greenwald robert thank you so much for joining us tonight now before we get into some of these details i want to play a clip of the first words that we heard from rupert murdoch's mouth. the writers. of this is good humble. thank you. i thought a lot of snarky comments i thought about way all over twitter yesterday there but he was watching this live but what do you think we learned about a rupert murdoch the man yesterday. well i got a lot of comments on my twitter feed and my facebook page hit on our websites i think we learned a lot and i don't know where you don't want to take four hours to talk about everything you learned first of all just think about it just the language you don't start by saying i'm sorry he didn't start by saying we've done

a terrible thing he didn't start by saying i will correct this he said it was the most humble day of his life i would hope when he came out it earth was maybe a more humble day then yesterday it was for him but we also saw on throughout the hearings and throughout the testimony both he and his son essentially ducking any of the answers of substance that have to be asked and the questions that have to be questioned hopefully it will increase the pressure to have hearings in the united states but what do you think are those are those questions of substance they need to be asked and you know we need an answer for. well you know there's a series of them first of all it's the question of what they know well know it how do they deal which they essentially duck around secondly who authorized significant numbers of of dollars thirdly this is

a top down company as we found out what we did out far you know they create memos written memos telling their news people what to respond to and how to respond it's impossible to believe that a company who's lost sixty percent of its value and its stark is not our mccain and the head people are not keep me focused on this and then to go on what about the payoffs what about paying the legal bills for people who've been convicted of crimes what about the fact that the lawyers they didn't teach and asked them for permission to speak to the press so that they could clarify things and they were and they refuse that mission what's gone on in the united states you know the list goes on and on and then there are the lawsuits there are the lawsuits from stockholders who was selling them now about paying too much six hundred seventy five million dollars for his story whose company and then michael tomasky has a very good piece of the daily beast in at least today talking about the fact that in fact there is legal action could be taken against murder well there definitely

seems to be a lot of a lot of shady dealings there a lot of goings on that we haven't quite gotten all the full details about but yes there were payoffs here there were people who think we ignored the problem didn't want to investigate it and the same time we keep hearing people say that well we knew this was going on for years but for some reason when it was celebrity phone calls or our phones that were being hacked it wasn't a big deal until finally it was something they could put on the heartstrings of everybody was a young girl who had gone missing and turns out was murdered but why has it been ok all this time. well i don't think it's ok i think it's a question you know we live in a culture of tension deficit disorder culture how do you get people's attention number one and then you know people certainly around the world are suffering with profound problems in terms of their daily lives they're willing to take care of their family or make a living so they're not so concerned about policy but where you and i might be and

others like me because cerned about survival will hacking that dead girl's phone but she really got to people and understood here is a corporation that would stop it nothing and it kind of became like a poster child for a fear and now they get to understand and ask questions so when a minute this is the same corporation that every single one of his newspapers was leading the charge to war in iraq which was a war that responded in you know thousands and thousands of being people being killed this is the same corporation that is the communications are of the tea party and you know it goes on this this symbol of this and this terrible thing that they did this young girl's phone answering machine has allowed people to focus and to ask the questions now it's all of our job to make sure that it's understood this is what happens with media consolidation this is what happens one man one corporation

dominating the media and intimidating at politicians in britain and in the united states i think you know you hit upon a point there which is the sense that unfortunately this is what the reader is this is what audiences want it is well perhaps an escape from some of their real problems they that murdoch would tell you that this was just a business and that's why i believe they are being successful so whether or not obviously there is an investigation launched by the f.b.i. into whether some of this was going on here in the u.s. regarding nine eleven victims do you think that these hearings that we're having these investigations are actually going to bring any of these practices to a halt or maybe ten years from now is the u.s. media culture going to be just as tabloidy as it is in the u.k. right now. well it depends on what time of day yesterday that question was not made up the list the best mode but i think that certainly in the u.k.

there are going to be a series of investigations there are going to be substantive there was an inquiry today that released a report saying that the murdoch's refusing to cooperate which we will keep the pressure on and i think they're in for several years over there i think in that country it will definitely help change policy and the obscene connection between the elected officials and the news corp the dinners that dining that visits that families you know giving money back all of that i think will unravel what i hope will have though is using this example that will come to the united states there will be investigations and people will begin to understand that in many ways rupert murdoch has had more effect on their lives than any of our presidents his ideology is conservative belief his using his newspapers and television to aggressively advocate that something it has taken a toll on all of us and on all of our media and therefore on all of our democracy

well speaking of some of his newspapers advocating for things the wall street journal penned a unsigned our bed last sunday especially coming in a bit of a visit to a defense about themselves saying that it's not fair that every news corp journalist now falls under this umbrella they attack the new york times the guardian they attack pro publica and they attack them by comparing this phone hacking scandal to wiki leaks saying how dare those organizations that publish documents made public by wiki leaks actually have something to say here what do you think of that comparison. well i think if mr murdoch or any one of his entities is signing your paycheck you really need to think very long and very carefully before you go out and hurt the values that newspapers and journalists are brought up with those you know sadly many journalists ones over there and here and some who work at the various decent newspapers have had their integrity question and compromised and

it's going to take a while for that to be restored if it's going to be restored but one would hope that some of the reporters at the wall street journal would adhere to the great tradition of that newspaper and go out and investigate i can't imagine that happening but i would hope that were so maybe they're just trying to cover their own backs because journalists don't best to get any more so now we have to depend on waking leaks to disclose many stories and so in essence they're just trying to bring the blame all the way back or out of the vicious circle robert greenwald thank you so much for joining us tonight i pleasure. well still to come police here in the u.s. go after the happiness group anonymous looking to the details only retards and why does the mainstream media continue to push to get accurate facts about our wars kyra to dive into that topic for the special guest salon dot com the language you walk. into and we're military mechanisms

to do the work to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is all you don't know i'm trying hard luck and was a big. say. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here and.

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. we now have more proof of the government making moves to try and stop the hacktivist group anonymous right here in the u.s. we reported to you earlier this year that hackers were arrested in spain on suspicion of having ties to the organization but they were all released because the authorities could not find substantial evidence to tie them to the crimes but it does seem that the teenagers are somehow becoming the persons of interest in these incidents they were they were a short while back when ryan cleary was arrested on suspicion of being linked to the activists and that's something they both like an anonymous have vehemently denied on twitter but yesterday the u.s. justice department and the f.b.i. arrested for teen people who they believe to be members of anonymous and or tied to the cyber attack of pay pal's web site and the f.b.i. went to six different locations yesterday and long island and bronx brooklyn to find all of the suspected individuals they also painted computers files and

documents from the places that they raided and if you remember anonymous went after pay pal and several credit card companies after they blocked access to wiki leaks donations and honest has also taken credit for defacing websites shutting down servers and scrawling messages across crean's web why are those raids ok back to the teenagers a mom whose home was raided yesterday left an account on the web site reddit dot com and it set at around eleven this morning i had four cars and a van filled with f.b.i. agents pull up to my house and then invade the woman tells how the agents had guns drawn their entire time and took computers the home of the post continued when i finally got to sit down and talk to that they said the packets were sent from our i as the address during the d.d. o. s. attack on pay pal they said my son it was responsible he was thirteen at the time they sat down with both of us and asked about our involvement with anon ops

testimony on reddit went on to say why would they spend all this time energy and funds to get a kid who was just trying to be cool following on without knowing any. the consequence points is what do i do to protect it what can i expect they seized to death top computers that was of course the mother statement not mine but just that is your f.b.i. tax dollars at work rounding up thirteen year olds who might have helped anonymous disrupt service to pay pal i'm betting these arrests are going to slow down on either i'm guessing they're just going to lead to more hacking cases but one thing is for sure the f.b.i. is stepping up their campaign to take down anonymous so looks like it's becoming an all out battle between the hacktivists and the authorities. now today the u.s. led nato coalition in afghanistan handed over control of the capital of helmand province to the afghan army is one of the first places in the country to go through this transition process to get out of the country by two thousand and fourteen that obama has pledged but is this transition it really as smooth as we're made to

believe as the u.s. left the afghan army prepared or doesn't leave behind forces too weak for the job that they've been given these are the concerns about the new guard but jason lot like discover the reality from a better perspective within the ranks of kabul. there's confusion on the faces of the afghan army soldiers as a firefight unfolds on the other side of the wall lucky for them this is the kabul military training center in the bullets being fired blanks the men here halfway through a ten week program and the officers don't cut them any slack when it's over the be deployed in eastern congo or province one of afghanistan's most violent corners mark but we must push them hard so they can perform under pressure day by day we're making progress the afghan national army has already come a long way it's great some swollen to about one hundred seventy thousand troops thanks to fresh waves of recruits attracted by higher wages and extra perks the soldiers insist they are all united in their desire to beat back the taliban look insurgency regardless of age or ethnicity then in your mind we are old brothers and

we are all called by one name was right the call of duty is also struck a chord beyond able bodied males a first ever class of women soldiers has just graduated us. and there's even the mujahedeen unit made up of more than veterans. this is all good news to u.s. military planners have said the two thousand and fourteen need to hand over security responsibilities to the afghans and the afghan army enjoys a much better reputation in the police force has even been featured in the recent move. but is the army takes greater responsibility for security around the country there are concerns that the quantity of troops may be coming at the expense of quality started as more than eighty percent of troops are illiterate a big problem with an ability to read maps and numbers can still the difference between life and death adding to the woes are widespread drug use and desertions today roughly one in four combat soldiers quit their post critics also point out that the military leadership is made up of many rival ex warlords who still command

loyalties along regional their mcleod's and could drag the country deeply conflict as the u.s. begins to scale back its role as custodian this summer there are concerns that these divisions may flare up if i start usually. yeah. it still has much to food can. you called. this you john brennan obama's counterterrorism advisor claimed that in the past year there hasn't been a single collateral death because of the exceptional proficiency and precipitation of the capabilities that we've been able to develop and that was when speaking about u.s. drone strikes in pakistan now it's anybody that follows or ever expanding war on terrorism that statement seems a little too good to be true and what do you know it was this week the bureau of

investigative journalism released a report that since august of two thousand and ten they have uncovered at least ten individual attacks in which forty five or more civilians appear to have died and that's a conservative estimate thing is it's also isn't the first time that a u.s. officials made a claim that under further investigation turned out to be completely false think back to the interview that we did with investigative reporter gareth porter who found that when general petraeus claimed last year that his raids have been a spectacular success but over thirteen hundred taliban have been captured well he failed to mention the more than ninety percent of those captured been released within days and found to be nothing more than innocent civilians or think back to when general john allen who's just taken over the war in afghanistan from the trace sect of members of congress the violence in the country is up five percent lower so far this year than last the u.n. report shredded that statement when they found the violence is in fact fifty one percent since this time last year so it's become a pattern and all too familiar story of lies peddled by minute military and administration officials that neither members of congress nor the mainstream media

question and it's allowing our war in the world to keep on growing so joining me to discuss that is going greenwald salon dot com glenn thanks so much for joining us tonight now like i said this is not the first time that we've seen something like this happen but let's talk about this specific report that basically shreds john brennan statements i know that you spoke to chris would conduct it how did they get this information. what was so interesting about it was when when john brennan made his statement it was actually a statement that had been repeated by numerous officials in washington over the course of the last several months and everybody knew that it was completely falls when they said it in part because public reports make clear almost on a daily basis that civilians are killed as part of the strikes but with this group it was they wanted to be very systematic about proving with also be abuse claims and so they basically scoured public sources they had discussions with people who

were on the scene in waziristan and they only documented the ones that they could definitively confirms the printer they could actually name by name and they were able to confirm forty five civilian deaths during the period when brennan said there were none and what they said was they're actually almost certainly far more than just the forty five of those are the ones they could document using this very conservative methodology we can i can imagine that it's not so often that you have the exact a list of names of people that are all her when you comes to these these drone strikes and civilian deaths so it must be a conservative estimate but let's get down then to the heart of this problem which is why when we have public reports coming out that document the possibility to talk about the fact that there are gas why doesn't anybody question that why doesn't the mainstream media question it why don't the lawmakers who sit there on capitol hill and have hearings and speak face to face with these generals and these advisers why don't they ask any of those questions. well

i think there are two reasons one is that it is true that these tribal areas that was there spain are very dangerous and there's almost nobody who's actually on the scene to document what happens after the drones head there are local villagers and pakistani officials in these areas to say that civilians are killed but of course our media disregards anyone who is an american or especially villagers in the areas that we bombed so it's very difficult to get firsthand reporting from the scene to map means that claims from american military officials whereby they simply call everybody you need to kill militants basically the definition of a militant at this point is some of the united states kills and the drone attack is the only thing on that ever makes it into the american establishment media and none of which politicians can provide there have been some very interesting reports of the last week there's a photo journalist who actually is on the scene and was interesting and has been for the past three years he's been photographing the aftermath of these drone

strikes and he says the far more civilians then pakistani and american officials admit have been killed have actually been killed and that it's radicalizing the area and that in fact for every fifteen people we kill maybe we kill one militant but the real reason it doesn't get much attention from the american political media causes because we don't really care we being the american political media class doesn't really care who we care what civilians we care we don't keep track of our victims we don't talk very much about the cost of the lives that we extinguish through our military attacks we simply don't care we care about the cost to us we care about the financial cost but cost to our service members but in reality the death of foreigners in the american military kills has never been something prominently featured in political discourse in the united states and i'm happy to imagine that he has another story that nobody seemed to care about was jeremy scahill from the nation had a report on cia secret sites in somalia that you know as you documented to none of the. cable networks even touch that story until finally for some reason joe

scarborough for morning joe decided to wake up yesterday and bring him on the story but i'm also curious to see the l.a. times decided then to ignore scales report but then to report on something that they heard from anonymous u.s. military officials about the growing threats the growing ties between al shabaab in somalia between al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in yemen do you think that that that may have been a planned about was something that was specifically being sold to the l a times after jeremy scahill report. i don't think there's any question i mean this pyramid scale report is so interesting because it really reveals the fundamental divide between independent journalism i.e. real journalism in united states and government subservient turner was a which is basically most of what takes place in the media that's owned by the nation's largest corporations of germany scale went to mogadishu an embedded for nine days a very dangerous thing to do in dog or hell and on his own and found out about the

existence of the cia secret prison that no private media had reported previously and in response rather than picking up on his story or discussing the very serious implications legally and in terms of human rights in the fact that president obama is maintaining a secret prison by proxy through control of the somalis what they did instead was they just ran to the cia or the cia ran to them and fed them information that the cia wanted disseminated in response to scales reporter and rather than scrutinize it or investigate whether it was true or even provide both sides they simply recycled it mindlessly so you had c.n.n. claiming without even mentioning the scales report that it had discovered on its almost that the cia was helping the somalis interview one or two detainees we had an a.b.c. news report that just printed the cia denials are patently false and then you have this l a times report that clearly it was.