he said i was just in washington and people in washington tell me that they're concerned about your tone welcome to the mainstream media establishment or apparently outsiders just aren't excepted anymore so what does with them all. and the land of the free but the home of the not so free press will speak to the journalists who serve the longest time in prison for protecting sources the reason you are is facing budget cuts is because of the crash that was created manufactured distributed by wall street plus a cause and a fact is newark new jersey

a symbol of what's ahead for other american cities if so they may have wall street to thank you. it's thursday july twenty first i'm christine friends now in washington d.c. and you are watching our team. well i want to start out his evening by talking about the role of journalism in our society journalists that listen america are supposed to be the ultimate form of checks and balances the buck stops with us i can tell you when i was in j school getting my masters at a very prestigious university knowing from known for being one of the best journalism schools in the country we heard words like fourth state public service government fact checker well it turns out today when it comes to the mainstream media and journalists seeking truth telling are defecting of the caliber of some of

these cable networks continues to crumble our buy list or look at the formula that is driving networks racing to the bottom now to talk about some of today's biggest bully stories it's the story behind the story i was like whoa the editorial mission driving the mainstream news cycle and i just kind of sat back i was like wow this is it this is the speech played by the rules instructions coming straight from the top he said i was just in washington and people in washington tell me that they're concerned about your tone recently departed m.-s. n.b.c. anchor jake you grew describes the talking to he alleges came from the head of the cable news network the talking to that drove him to leave the station he said i look to be an outsider outsiders are cool but we're not we're insiders. we are the stuff former insiders and analysts we interviewed say it's this way of thinking and the mainstream t.v. media it leads to a twenty four hour news cycle filled largely with casey anthony the woman accused

of killing her two year old little girl you would know if this is your underpants we now learn maria demanded he move on has been following the curse coverage that an m.s.m. defector says has cost stations their literate audience and credibility lot of mainstream television news in particular is are not good or are just wasting your time with casey anthony stories with anthony weiner's wiener it's become a national joke a national joke that protects ad revenue and political currency unlike more hard hitting stories they would be stories that offend big corporations and political power and that's why they're not covered it could wipe politicians become fair game only on the way down when everyone's covering it maybe this is a theory is right now it could explain why more reporters having covered for example a secret prison in somalia run by the cia journalist jeremy scahill exposed its

secrets and says several other american reporters know about it too instead this was the response to his story in the case of c.n.n. didn't even mention my report and just basically reprinted a press release from the cia saying that you know they were just assisting the somali government they could explain why networks aren't redoubling their efforts to cover hard hitting stories instead fresh off the successful ratings of the casey anthony trial you have a network like a.v.c. hiring former kidnapping victim elizabeth smart to cover missing children stories i mean they basically came out and said we need to do more innocent children or missing can call stories and so that's what they're going to do and that is going to be a cost to other stories taking away from stories that affect people on a greater scale from jobs to inequality. poverty wars and police brutality. meanwhile you have national celebrities filling the spots of journalists and we are so glad now to be joined by elizabeth smart and journalists filling the spots of

celebrities when cnn's anderson cooper tweeted this photo it quickly turned to fodder for hollywood gossip blogs shorts and anger admitting he had a child with a staff member the direction seems to be heading ever further in the direction gentle and tabloid which is rupert murdoch's news corp scandal is any indication could backfire ultimately that's going to lose ratings you're going to lose viewers and you know ultimately you may be you may find yourself under investigation networks that pledge to lean forward or claim to be fair and balanced or they call themselves the most trusted name in news the defectors leaving to find an independent outlet if they want to try to live up to those moderns laura lister our team washington d.c. . all right so lauren just showed us a long list of examples and it begs the question when all of this is being covered what's not being covered now there is some hope with the technology where it is

today there is room for alternative forms of media and there's evidence people are watching it and reading it not as many people but there are certainly some need out there and i guess foreign is in los angeles california she is with the young turks and ana thanks so much for coming on the show we're focusing our show today talking about mainstream media in the modern day i know you're a part of the young turks which by many as two minutes is the largest online news show in the world so i guess from the outside looking in what's your take on the fact that you know despite the war in libya still going on despite a need to think and talk much more deeply about the world economies most people who turn on cable news are seeing casey anthony sarah palin's gaffes and michele bachmann's migraines. discouraging it's definitely socialized media there is an audience out there for it because it's very simple to produce those types of news stories but it's discouraging because people aren't

getting informed on the issues that are that are important to ben the issues that actually affect them on a daily basis now in terms of americans does the situation in libya directly affect them no but there should be more coverage on the economy there should be more coverage on what's really going on in washington rather than whether or not casey anthony killed her daughter whether or not anthony weiner tweeted his pictures that kind of stuff is just sensationalism i see it as yellow journalism it's not something that is important to people and it's discouraging to see so much coverage on it on a daily basis i mean the war in libya may not directly affect americans but neither does katie casey anthony i think that international policies and defense spending certainly does have an impact on you know people here taxpayers to see where their money's going you know there's been a lot of talk lately and i know in the past going turks has touched upon this about what happens when mainstream media hosts don't play by the rules i know looking way

back phil donahue was highly rated show was canceled in the start of the iraq war days because he was outspoken in his tough questioning of the war i know jesse ventura says his show with him and i said he was also canceled because he opposed the war what's going on here with these rules i mean who in your opinion is making them and why after so long are journalists for the most part willing to follow them . you know in terms of who makes the rules i think that you know it could be executive producers it could be news directors it could be the heads of these networks it's different in each in my opinion but the overall reason why this happens is because who do networks want to appease who does the mainstream media launch to appease all i would. say i would call you what you think it would be you would think you'd be the viewer but i think that the overall goal for the media right now is to profit i mean they're constantly worried about ratings why are they

worried about ratings because in the advertising department or in the sales department those ratings need to be presented to advertisers and if you are cut they think that if you cover stories that are important stories on libya stories on the economy that americans aren't going to buy they want the sensationalism they're going to focus on the sensationalism and if they think that's going to bring in the money in the ratings then that's what they're going to cover and i think that that's discouraging and i think they're wrong i think they're wrong on that point you know a lot of people constantly say you know twenty four hour news cycle we've got to fill it and that's why we have to cover casey anthony that's why we have to cover every little shark attack that takes place but what about covering those things and also covering the important stuff why instead of you know a balance in this tabloid coverage and important stuff why is it seven hours of anthony weiner's wiener. let me just say something if you are part of the media and you claim that you need to cover every single topic because of the twenty four hour

news cycle you're pathetic ok there are so many news stories that happened this year alone that got no coverage one example of that would be the number of women who are facing prosecution because had stillborn babies or because they had miscarriages ok that's happening in several states in the united states right now including mississippi you know gay these right wingers will open investigation on these women for foul play and just because this woman had a stillborn baby shall serve jail time for it ok how come that story isn't getting everybody coverage that story got coverage on firedoglake the young turks and r.t. that's it ok that's an important story that should be covered who cares about anthony weiner's wiener who cares about casey anthony you know the casey anthony trial i can understand if you do like a quick five minute story on it and you move on but it was not in stock coverage who cares what's going on with the fence spending what's going on with the debt

ceiling negotiations what's going on with issues that actually matter well that's the reason why a lot of the public at this point is going online for their media that's why they're going online for their news because you don't see a lot of television shows covering issues that matter and you know thank god for the internet thank god that there is that outlet that option there that you ask the question who cares just going back to casey anthony i h l n their ratings went out immensely during this trial so obviously people do care i want to talk to you really briefly about the business of news fox is of course a very successful example they are a money making machine they are not fair and balanced as they say they know they're not fair and balanced but they have a business model and it's working for them let me ask you this you're a member of what you could maybe call the alternative media do you think that the alternative media has the potential to be successful as a business or will it simply never be. i think it does have a potential to be successful at i consider the young turks alternative media all

the way and the reason why we're successful is because we're funded by our members a huge chunk of our funding comes from people who pay us monthly for our content and you know people say that's a difficult thing to achieve except it's really not i mean if you cover news stories that orton they're willing to pay for those news stories and they're willing to pay for the content so what happens is if we are doing news that our audience finds important and we do that on a daily basis they'll continue paying us each month as members if they start to look at our content they say they're slipping up we're not interested all of a sudden our membership drops and then we have to wake up and we have to figure out what we're doing wrong i think that's a business model that holds the media accountable and also provides news coverage to the audience of the audience actually cares about and lots and in terms of the casey anthony trial i mean the reason why the ratings went up in my opinion is because they sensationalize the hell out of that story you know

a look at the way nancy grace covered that story how could you not pay attention to that i mean she completely sensationalize it completely blew it out of proportion you know it was the only thing that you can see in the media at that time so you couldn't help but pay attention to that story such a good point and we really appreciate all the work you're doing keep it up and the young turks in our l.a. studio. all right it's not just that journalists in this country are asked to tone it down and then in cases they're fired from their jobs and in still other cases put in jail you know i remember hearing about josh wolf who at twenty four years old with a rested for refusing to turn over a video he had shot at a g. eight protest in san francisco i can two thousand and five. two hundred twenty six days behind bars more time than any journalist in u.s. history for talking to a source and since his release he has remained a constant symbol for the many injustices and lack of freedom of the press earlier

i spoke to him and asked him to tell us more about the nuts and bolts of his story and how it's played out since here's what he had to say so basically i started with a video blog filming protests in the san francisco bay area started with anti-war demonstrations but covering police brutality in the other various ages and i found one protest that resulted in a police injured now i didn't see any of that incident at all but. but i was subpoenaed by the f.b.i. for them to appear in front of a grand jury and not only turned over the video that i had released yet but also turn but also testify about who was there that i knew and obviously there was concerns about doing that i try to have the subpoena quashed that we've been successful and book was called the reporter's privilege which is in essence saying

that reporters testify about the material that they gathered because it basically turns them into an arm of the government at that point in time and this isn't an exception all. tool in court in forty nine states plus columbia in some way or another but instead records you were very very limited in how you can invoke the reporter's privilege and i was benched essentially federal detention center in northern california where i stayed for about seven months and i want to get back to your situation a little bit here just because they do how do you hear me and ran a country that i'm not free free speech and yet you spent time in jail a lot of time i'm wondering if this is just a sign of the times five years ago or if you think this is something that could still happen today i mean immediately after i was released from jail i started hitting for a federal shield law that was robots that included. video bloggers independent

journalists freelancers etc and there was some progress that was made unfortunately it doesn't look like the climate is right for shield all right now there's a lot of blow up following the wiki leaks situation obviously. so it definitely could happen i know that there's a journalist by the lesson of right and who's potentially facing the same thing i was about source material certainly wasn't a protest and he was covering at that point in time. so it definitely can still happen the culture for subpoenaing journalists seems like it may have changed a little bit but there's definitely those vulnerabilities and even in covering protests these that u.c. berkeley where i just graduated from the journalism school i was faced with student conduct charges that hung over my head for eighteen months wow wow covering a. that was investigative journalist josh wolf and just in case you're hungry for

one more story about the media covering the media let's talk about rupert murdoch's media empire and the firestorm spreading as a arrests and resignations continue this as questions are surfacing surrounding the death of journalist sean hoare the man credited with revealing the phone hacking scandal with another political scandal another whistleblower dies but is this all just coincidence r c correspondent laura amid reports. another political scandal erupts another whistleblower diaries sean hoare was the first former news of the world journalists to go on the record to allege that phone hacking was endemic at the paper and that its editor andy colson actively encouraged it paul was found dead in his house on monday setting the blogosphere into a frenzy of comparisons with the case of dr david kelly why isn't this one horror story bigger reminds me of how dr david kelly was bumped off similar tragedies of

shawn hornbeck's kelli all this madness and david kelly shawn who are that's what i'm thinking something's not right dr kelly was the u.n. weapons inspector who first cast doubt on the government's claim that iraq could deploy weapons of mass destruction within forty five minutes it led to scrutiny of tony blair's decision to invade iraq by extraordinary coincidence kelly's body was discovered exactly eight years before that of sean hordes on the eighteenth of july two thousand and three it was british journalist andrew gilligan who david kelly had spoken to to publicize that the forty five minute claim had been exaggerated gilligan believes there are similarities between kelley and short haul being at the center of one of these storms a terrifying experience i really don't believe either david or sean hoare was murdered because. i simply don't think it would have been in anyone's interest to murder them once they got into the public spotlight anyone with an iota of sense in

government would have known that to kill them we just would just amplify the story i think it's simple i think both were under enormous pressure from their roles as whistle blows and and found it difficult to cope with that pressure so one hole with evidence could have been crucial to proving that the news of the world editors supported a culture of listening to private voice mails for stories former editor andy colson who later became a media director to the cover. prime minister has always denied the allegations the man was destroyed professionally by views international the journalistic world in london is a very small place and i was distraught he was well known he was drinking too much taking drugs he was the protestant. police the thing called death doesn't appear suspicious and they're looking at suicide dr kelly's death was also recorded as suicide although many including leading doctors and m.p.'s have never accepted that

their suspicions of hardly be quelled by the fact that most of reports and other evidence has been classified for seventy years so ten arrests six resignations two convictions and one death that the toll of the phone hacking scandal so far that the key whistleblower in this scandal house raised questions but so far only about twitter ossie it's being reported as a horrible and unfortunate coincidence but it's doubtful that if this had happened elsewhere say in russia or in india the british media would be so set it as a coincidence particularly gets out in the lights a bit death of david kelly you read it r.t. loved it turning out of the debt ceiling and talks continuing right here in washington d.c. and i want to look at cities a bit further away from the political bubble as well are some places so far gone that they need an enormous jaw to be saved and are they symbols of worse things to

con artist anastasio reports. homes abandoned and haunted by tough ready crime and uncertainty about tomorrow business is long out of luck on desolate streets all in the big apple backyard just a quick ride from manhattan and i feel like we're living in a. kind of a bad dream where everybody has amnesia i mean here's a new york living in the shadow of wall street the reason new york is facing budget cuts is because of the crash that was created manufactured distributed by wall street new jersey's largest city being unemployment at around ten percent nearly one in four families are living below the poverty line. here in france why the school bus driver a twenty eight has little pull for the future because really nobody's. even blowouts but he did. need to try

a bag of mines to go back to the same stories new work is notoriously crime ridden despite this hard truth thirteen percent of the police force have been laid off due to a budget crisis high ranking officials in the police department resisted pay cuts the job went out the window they voted for layoffs and so they kept their salaries but a lot of the new york had triggered at least four murders went up by more than fifty percent compared to the same period last year as a result with locals protecting themselves the best way they know how like carrying on or. probably a night of. not really shooting stabbings robberies and carjacking are a big part of life in newark this area right here sadly. happens quite well. throughout the city drug gang rivalry is a major cause of violence locals tell us that this is one of many areas in new york

where people come to buy and sell drugs crimes of the. such a big part of daily life here that much of the unlawfulness goes unnoticed and under reported on the day archie was in the city several shootings took place one person died over a dozen were wounded some see the situation is so out of control that the few police officers still on payroll just start trying to say. that it's very. seldom just my house even says priorities have to change a new work she wants to leave the challenge and move away from all the drama if somebody like make good. decisions on the job or. try to put it with. the people they need to. take off the streets. and increase in crime isn't the only result of service cuts edward hernandez works in a pantry that has run out of funding it can't provide for those in need anymore we've

been talking for years that in about two years we should get out of this recession and then the period here we continue seeing you know in about two more years we should be recession it doesn't at least at this level it doesn't seem like it's changing it is getting worse as shelters experience hits to their budgets homelessness is visible in the city but those that caused the financial have moved on people are forgetting that the financial crisis actually caused the. cutbacks that we're facing today and in a place like new york or is really a crime that's the crime. decades ago you work was booming but this is no longer not likely to change without a shift in political will. that's a problem there's no there really with this supposed to do with governor christie for more example he doesn't really. do one thing where he does totally opposite

this is madison avenue in new york. and this is madison avenue in new. across the river from the big apple the city is barely staying afloat especially if you're going to archie newark new jersey new york of course a prime example of what can happen to cities in this nation let's not forget the state government in minnesota as well that's been shut down for two weeks and just reopened today there are countless examples an illustration of some important part of the system that just isn't working i want to talk about this more with karl denninger karl is with the market ticker and is in niceville florida carl let's start with newark we just showed this report newark new jersey barely ten miles out of new york city one of the world's largest economies new york city of course and this disparity is great how can something like this happen nor its very core should be for a long time i traveled through there are twenty years ago and it actually was very

obvious even to that point essentially what's happened in these sorts of propulsion areas. cities have taken on more and more obligations without any reasonable way to fund them and eventually all which is what is now happening now we're in so you are faced with not being able to make the payments to provide those essential services and they have to be cut back. i mean really interesting and of course karl here we are based in washington and there's so much talk about what will happen if we don't raise the debt ceiling out about defaulting and what this country will look like well guess what this hundred looks like that area is in many areas in fact why do you think that this is kind of and will not occur of our on a larger scale. it's a question of making promises that you can't keep and the elected officials are always prompted to make promises that various constituencies but they're not helped

to account for this fiscal sustainability of what they say they're going to do and we're running into it now international over with the debt ceiling debate regardless of how that gets resolved i doubt that you're going to see anything in terms of long term fiscal sustainability that's going to actually work. who will we get through this in the washington d.c. chase for today probably caught in the will under term and intermediate term you're going to have more new works. and you know i heard what you said i don't like elected officials not being held to account it's really hard to disagree with that but i think there's so much more i mean let's look at wall street let's look at a lot of things and perhaps they do tie that tie back to elected officials but there are a lot of other factors here in terms of who's to blame when to say. yeah i think this fair you have to look at the. it's not just a you know i don't want to play the will to spirity cart but at the end of the day if you were to track all of the wealth of the top five percent of americans you

could close the debt problem but episode seven hundred billion one point seven trillion dollars for about one year but then all of the money would be gone and the next year would come along you'd still have a seven hundred billion dollars deficit and fortunately all the rich aren't rich anymore so we have to have a change in priorities and look at things from a different perspective what is it that we can actually write what is it that that we want the government to do for us in this country and what are we willing to pay taxes to support and some where those things have to be because they haven't the last thirty years and this is the result i mean i think there's a question carl about a lot of people and especially politicians from both sides of the aisle are asking the problem is they're not getting a unified answer you mentioned just a little while ago at the impact of august the impact of this continued behavior staying on this path will be many many many more new wrecks what happened than. yes well there's no good solution we can two thousand pay out some choices available to

us that resulted in a great deal of short term economic pain to look at one hundred twenty one example of what happens if the government allows those contractions to take place and then in two thousand and seven we have much more pain to take and we decided to defer it and now it's two thousand and eleven in the problem is even worse and you can look at the 1930's for what may be coming to america and really frightening but certainly not the first time i've heard that i get that on i kind of want to finish allan just by asking you kind of to make a prediction on the best way to solve this problem if there is a way you have to because president obama said each piece the the unfortunate reality is that there used milking was a way to take this problem or the table the longer we wait the worse it gets and so everybody wants to avoid the pain of you just let it pass.