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three. three three. three . welcome to the lower show we'll get the real headlines with none from mercy if you live in washington d.c. now today i will speak to atticus barron of the young turks about jane cougars departure from m.s. n.b.c. poll asked if the future of the media will be online then eighty percent of americans are now dissatisfied or angry with the government so how much more can they take jane hamsher of firedoglake will help us answer that question and if you like our story on the jail t.v. just one of many ways to a military projects wait until you hear about the navy's littoral combat ships
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we'll have all of that for you tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to make. tell the world last rupert murdoch and his son james testifying before the british parliament this week are a lot of questions to be raised about what murdoch did and did not know about the hacking the ethics of the companies under his belt and whether or not he's even fit to run those companies if you really doesn't know anything but unfortunately somebody had to try and hide rupert and well he got to use that as a big distraction. so now when the pieing attempt was made i said moving on continue to talk about the possible repercussions of his scandal for journalism for the murder of a media empire all eyes instead turned to rupert's wife wendy day charging with
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claws drawn to protect her man. a few days after rupert murdoch appeared before members of parliament much of the continuing buzz about his younger feisty wife it's the slur that's been around the will we it's no longer when did this so-called go it was some of them calling crouching when he didn't target. that's right the oh so easily distracted mainstream media immediately flipper gays are talking about and creating buzz over crouching wendy hidden tiger as they have now decided to call her and in this case we're going to a specific thing or at c.n.n. to fox news is obviously ignoring the whole story but c.n.n. has got a full force not only are they monitoring chinese blogs and even to look to the taiwanese animation makers to create an entire package about tiger's wendy. the ultimate target white house to thank you and. so on these monthly blogs you go into one slot for windy one knockout blow. asian
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women nothing comes between the slack. you're kidding me right c.n.n. and you do this story just the archetype about the sad state of journalism these days something which includes yourselves but then again why wouldn't you take a chance to work on murdoch and fox and all the other organizations that put under that news corp umbrella there is so much meat to this story and yet you choose to spend your time coming up with pet names for rupert murdoch's wife i mean it's it's honestly unbelievable how about you turn your gaze to what's been going on in california now we reported to you about the massive prison hunger strike that's been going on and today in its fourth week to finally came to an end more than six thousand prisoners were taking part statewide more than four hundred inmates have been refusing food for four weeks in prison officials said that they were monitoring forty nine inmates who had lost ten pounds each some of them could no longer even keep water down and they were doing this to shine light on solitary
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confinement which many amount to torture and which is rampant in our prisons they were doing this to highlight the inhumane conditions in prisons in this country and some said that they were even willing to die for it. it's a thankfully before anyone's health deteriorated to the point of no return and prison hunger strike did come to an end but i wouldn't call this a win rather than see an end to solitary confinement they ended their strike in exchange for cold weather caps wall calendars and some educational opportunities that is all the department of corrections and rehabilitation was willing to give that and yet the inhumane treatment of many prisoners continues on and yet that is something that the mainstream media is happy to miss. so after a few days of rumors swirling a last night it became official of the young turks who had been hosting the six pm
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time slot and s.n.c.c. was out for talk but it was jake's poor ratings that may have been behind the move thanks restore that argument to shreds last night he revealed not only that his ratings were lower than good but the m.s.m. b.c. president phil griffin had called him into a meeting and said the quote people in washington didn't like his stuff and then he said this. and then he gives me the second form speech hey listen james outsiders recall. and then we're going to something where you were living jack and ride bikes i think i'm an outsider i don't write books but i would terrible object to anything . he said i love to be an outsider outsiders are cool but we're not we're insiders we are the structure. so there you have it the mainstream corporate establishment media admitting they are in fact not government watchdogs but are the establishment but how long can the mainstream media really survive with that kind of attitude and
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is new media like the young turks the way of the future but earlier i caught up with an experienced host of the young turks university and an i often talk about the mainstream media its failure to question the government but i first asked her how she felt now that s n b c actually referred to itself as the establishment. i think that it's discouraging and referring to yourself as the establishment i think really puts your own outlet in jeopardy because people who watch the news people who want the news are not looking for the establishment they're looking for factual evidence they're looking for something that they need to know to be afforded order to participate in what the united states is known for a democracy you know i think that giving people false information or misleading information or not giving them the full story is horrible because in order for a democracy to work the public needs to be informed and i think that people will kind of look at the situation that's happening now you know with m s n b c with fox
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news and i think that it's going to really make them question the sources that they get the news from and it's not a good thing to refer to yourself as the establishment i think that it's something that you should probably look at and try to fix now it's definitely not a good thing and stepping out something that you want to be called out on either which gang did i know that you don't want to speak on his behalf obviously we're going to try to speak to him later on in the week but how do you think he's been handling the whole thing you know what has he told you in terms of his emotions towards m.s.m. be seen as. you know jake is a very open minded person and he one thing that i want to clarify is he's definitely not disgruntled or angry or you know he's very factual about what's happened i mean from his perspective he's not you know going out he's not putting anyone down he's definitely not you know. talking about the hosts at m s n b c i
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think that he's handled the situation very well and i would definitely tell people to ignore the sensationalism regarding the story i see a lot of sensationalism that is really their focus on the heart of the matter the meat of the story i think there's an important lesson to learn from it i defending it there's an important lesson to be learned and part of that is that even though the bank may not be on m s n b c anymore you still have the young turks and that's become an incredibly popular show online so clearly there is an audience there tell us how many hits you get a day now as a million hits a day. you know this is the most fascinating aspect of the story in my opinion because the young turks is hosted by jake you and he is very tough on politicians he's very tough on some of the guests that we have on the show and the media would probably guess that since he's so hard on gas we have a hard time booking people or we have
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a hard time keeping an audience but that's not the case at all we have a million hits a day on you tube alone ok that's not a made up number that it's very easy to go to our you tube channel youtube dot com slash the young turks look at the number of hits on each you know each video look at the number of hits we have we have over. five hundred million total hits on our channel alone half a billion i mean it's incredible so i think that it shows you that non mainstream media can be very successful because people are starting to realize that they have other sources for their news they don't have to depend on mainstream media and i think the public is starting to hold the mainstream media accountable we have something called the internet now where you can go on there you can check the sources you can check the facts you can you know get the full story and because of that the public is able to hold the media accountable and we have audience members that hold us accountable on a daily basis if we don't report the full story they call us out of it and what do
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we do we go on the show the next day and we say ok you know we missed this aspect of the story we're going to share with you now we have politicians on the show that disagree with all of the time and what is due he has a healthy debate with them ok but he doesn't allow them to come on there and share their talking points and say whatever they want and then you know leave why would we do that why would we be used as a tool for politicians talking points that doesn't make any sense the audience sees that and they love it so how do you see this playing out in terms of obviously the success of young turks alternative media new media i guess you could say do you think that there could be another network created that the young turks are something that could be put on t.v. and go out to a broader audience or is t.v. dead even needed anymore because you have the internet. i think t.v. whether people want to believe it or not is headed in the same direction that print media is already experiencing now and it's because new generations are not
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interested in coming home at a specific period of time to watch the news you know they don't base their schedules around programming on television you have the internet now where everything is on demand and with the internet there's a lot less centered censorship so you get this very raw news coverage and even rob programming on you know on other topics without having to worry about scheduling without having to worry about whether or not it's going to be on demand i think that you know the internet is taking over so many different industries and the news industry is just one of them and i think that's why the young turks has been successful and i think that's why you see all of these alternative media outlets popping up all over the all over the place online i mean to be honest with you he'd just give you one example tosh point zero is a wildly successful television show but why is it wildly successful because of content that he finds online online content is not something that can be compared
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to television but do you still think because when i was a wildly successful television show do you still think that television is that ultimate goal to reach or is the internet really the wave of the future where you can stay and be happy there. right now i think that most people think that television is the ultimate goal but that mindset is slowly changing and i think that it's slowly changes with each generation so for the moment being people might think ok television is where it's at if you're on t.v. you're the real deal and we should take you seriously but i think that mindset is slowly but surely changing our animal thank you so much for joining us of course is a story that i think everybody who follows the media who has constantly been discouraged by the mainstream media at least find a little hope in this that jane tell them the first for themselves thanks so much. thank you. for coming out tonight the debate over raising the debt ceiling has left
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most people in the us mad at washington eighty per cent of people in back so how much more can americans really take for you as jane hamsher the founder of firedoglake dot com works. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm charged welcome is a big issue. and you know. fuck fuck fuck.
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fuck. let's not forget that we are right. i think. either one is well. we never got that says here safe get ready because their freedom.
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well as washington continues to battle over the debt ceiling and word by now is that president obama might even accept a short term extension because a we have capitol hill bother to ask what the american people think about their grand standing in all of this reckless behavior i can tell you that a new a.b.c. washington post poll has that answer turns out that eighty percent of poll respondents say that they feel dissatisfied or even angry about the work that the government is doing eighty percent and that's the highest level that we've seen in anger in nineteen years and you can bet that it has to do with the debt ceiling to that number is going up eleven points just in the past month and the picture is especially bad for republicans with the poll showing that seventy seven percent of respondents think the republican leadership is unwilling to negotiate and slowing down those talks but is it fair to put all the anger only in republicans is it fair
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to say this is only about the debt ceiling maybe americans should be more angry at the president for selling them out when it comes to social security medicaid and medicare join me to discuss this is jane hamsher founder of firedoglake dot com jane thanks so much nice to have you back on the show tonight. now eighty percent of americans according to this poll are dissatisfied and angry with the government that's a really large percentage but you think of that say a well deserved well deserved anger. well if you look at the employment numbers i mean the jobless claims are up against a day i think that what you're seeing is is anger at the government for underlying factors that just really haven't been satisfactorily addressed and then on the news what people are seeing is this game over the debt ceiling limit completely routine vote that's been taken seven times under george bush with absolutely no problem at all and i think that there is is a justifiable frustration so i but i think that there are other factors that are
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there and depending on just in this particular debate when we talk about the other factors here that americans are going to be angry about will get into the president in just a moment but even with republicans they were happy to jobs right are americans just being completely ignored they're being taken out of the picture here well that's the crazy thing is that they're all true based on this deficit is really sort of artificial accounting function and nobody's talking about jobs i mean there's a real serious unemployment problem and that seems to have taken a backseat keynesianism you know spending for people to work f.d.r. the thing that you know we as americans have really embraced sense and it's the great depression is used to drown out the window and we're developing to nobody ourselves of this austerity program that quite frankly threatens to put more people out of work you know you've got senators like mark warner democrats who are sending us e-mails around saying that you know cutting the deficit is the way to put more americans to work he who believes that. because what the debate national debate is
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focused on right now well the debate is on what had focused on austerity and of course on the other hand the debate has now circled around not raising taxes by any being any means it's a no go and so much of this centers around grover norquist and i'm just a little confused i don't know maybe if you can explain it to me why grover norquist is treated like a messiah but everything he says is the decree the law of the land or republicans is using him to hide behind. that's a really good question you know i don't know quite how to answer that except to say that john walker who writes for of like their very good post about how not raising taxes really is the republican brand right now it's the only appeal that they have to knock on social conservatives. that the republican ranks are very small if you go jay if you sort of boil it down to the people who hate gays and abortion i'm so sort of the there are no new taxes has a real direct appeal to people who might not be socially conservative but you know
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very carefully much about what their tax rate is so that is the republican brand and figured out a way to kind of codify it in a very. i would say formal way he has these members of congress sign a pledge he has two people present when they sign it it gets capped you know like a fireproof vault and he's taken people out who didn't respect it you know the tom de lay and the republicans when george bush won for they really took over the party and enforced party discipline along those lines so grover became the sort of oracle at delphi but grover today came out and said letting the bush tax cuts expire he would not consider a tax increase so you know he's capable of throwing a curve ball and i don't know what flopped on that if you tell us how forget that he said he was misquoted he walked it back but he walked back in the other day to where he endorsed the mcconnell the and i think that's sort of the way the no white house did it you know. today as well it's called the yo yo you know you get it out
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there but then you deny it so if anybody tries to call you on it it's a pretty familiar tactic he's not that i'm cautious he doesn't speak not carefully so he definitely had a purpose in putting it out there i just don't know what it is or for talking about the republican brand right now being not cutting taxes what about the democratic brand right isn't part of that grand title my programs social security medicare medicaid keeping that safe for the american people i think you have our own president that's now saying that he's willing to throw that all into the deal and in fact that's what he wants to do isn't turn his back on all the people that elected him. that's the crazy thing is that he's not true to the deal because mcconnell operating in a clean debt ceiling vote with no cuts necessary it was obama who wanted to cut the cards and he's very much wanted to address it kind of like cats as he calls than ever since he took office from his very first school sign anshul summit where he was going to keep peterson be a keynote speaker and he really does believe that this is important so it is i
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think it is people realizing it realize that what's happening it's about a crisis in the democratic party because you've got a democratic president who wants to cut the social safety net you know social security and medicare does not believe in deficit spending in economics to put people to work in stimulus and you know to the extent that he did it was largely tax cuts you know it was a very small program and it wasn't sufficient to bring down unemployment payment for let's say the bad has something to do with the anger right let's go back to the eighty percent of americans are angry and you think that you know if you got that poll anywhere else that means people would be on this story if they were rioting and we don't seem to have that how come there are no repercussions and i know that on your website you've been collecting signatures but still you know it one web site is that enough. well you know i think that it's still a matter people don't quite believe it you know you know sort of varying degree of people who pay attention to what's going on and most people don't really believe
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that. this is going to happen because every time you know it's it becomes an abundant lee clearly this is what obama wants to do to people who are watching closely and they you know jay carney comes out and says oh no that's not what he wants and people believe it at some point people are going to come to terms with this is that what he wants to do now they may decide that because a little wants to do it's good for the democratic party and it's good for them i don't know i have a feeling that's not going to be what happens because people even today when the trial balloon went out saying obama agreed to all tax cuts and no tax increases it was clear that i was coming i mean the republicans are going to agree to anything else that obama wanted to but people were really angry about it so i think you're seeing a growing consciousness and i think that there will be a backlash whether they'll go out in the streets or not i don't know all i'd like to see i would like to see more of that growing consciousness and the backlash and personally i think that we can blame so far media for that too i saw you on the other night where we have these liberal suppose of left leaning talking heads only want to point fingers at the republicans and that aren't willing to point the
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finger back at their own party at their own leadership and i guess that's maybe part of the whole stablish transmedia thing that we've seen going on especially with all this talk of. departing from. i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight thanks for having me. all right. is it speaking of banks bankers people who don't seem to be stressing out about the whole debt ceiling debacle might be because their pockets and their social lives are thriving in these tough financial times so it's been reported a high end prostitution ring in brooklyn new york has been busted after police have been attempting to shut down that business for the past two years and i say hi and i'm not exaggerating here so the clientele paid up to thirty six hundred dollars an hour and police are now giving details that a few people even shelled out ten thousand dollars for a home night's worth of entertainment and who are these people exactly customers are just in this for me from the financial mortgage and the age group. has formed
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the people with nothing but the company a little. bit also says how many of these very select high end escorts also run drugs like cocaine for their scheduled meet ups with their clients that's the life of a fat cat banker or a car during the day to protect the precious stock market go out and party at night with strippers and coke you know it must be nice to live in a bubble where you can just buy the finest drugs the most beautiful women although the rest of america suffers what's even more nice is when you have the ability to buy yourself out of trouble with a fancy lawyer as i'm sure most of the wall street clientele will do if they ever get caught and this is a perfect example of what we've been saying for a long time on this show the disconnect between wall street and the rest of the country all the bankers throw down thousands of dollars to choose who their lady will be for the evening regular americans are struggling to stay afloat millions of them are losing their homes it's a disgusting yet very worthwhile reminder of wall street's priorities so now let's take a look at life on the other side. and you work in new jersey it's just miles away
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from the big apple but these days it feels like a completely different world which twenty five percent of the city's population living in poverty violence is also now on the rise and with layoffs impeding efforts of law enforcement to stop crime many simply hopeless as they see it going to takes us takes us to the streets of real america. homes abandoned and haunted by poverty crime and uncertainty about tomorrow business is long out of luck on desolate streets all in the big apple's backyard just a quick ride from manhattan i feel like we're living in a. kind of a bad dream where everybody has amnesia i mean here's you're living in the shadow of wall street the reason newark is facing budget cuts is because of a crash that was created manufactured distributed by wall street new jersey's
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largest city seeing unemployment at around ten percent nearly one in four families are living below the poverty line. him from suarez a school bus driver a twenty eight he has little hope for the future that's really nobody. even while trying to get a say. maybe the child back home to go back to the same school new work is notoriously crime ridden despite this hard truth thirteen percent of the police force had been laid off due to a budget crisis high ranking officials in the police department resisted pay cuts so jobs went out the window they voted for layoffs and so they kept their salaries but a lot of the new york had to shrink its police force and murders went up by more than fifty percent compared to the same period last year as a result of vocals protecting themselves the best way they know how like our you are. probably in ny. shootings stabbings brought berries and
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carjackings are a big part of life in newark this is a right. chad would. have is why all. throughout the city drop gang rivalry is a major cause of violence locals tell us that this is one of many areas in new york where people come to buy and sell drugs crime. has become such a big part of daily life here that much of the unlawfulness goes unnoticed and under reported on the day archie was in the city several shootings took place one person died over dozen were wounded some see the situation is so out of control that the few police officers still on payroll just start trying the same. percent. so just even says priorities have to change in new work she wants to leave the town and move away from all the drama if somebody might make a. decision on the job or. try
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to act with. the people they need to really take off the streets this is the increase in crime isn't the only result of service carts edward hernandez works in a pantry that has run out of funding it can't provide food to those in need anymore we've been talking for years that in about two years we should be out of this recession and then the period here we continue saying in about two more years we should be out of this recession. i least at this level it doesn't seem like it's changing it's it is getting worse as shelters experience hits to their budgets homelessness is visible in the city but those that cause the financial have moved on people are forgetting that the financial crisis actually caused. cutbacks that we're facing in a place like new york having to suffer more is really a crime that's the crime. decades ago you work was booming but this is no longer
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a not likely to change without a shift in political will kind of that's a politician only with this supposed to do with governor christie for more example he doesn't really he's saying this is the one thing where he does the opposite this is madison avenue in new york. and this is madison avenue and. newark across the river from the big apple the city is barely staying afloat and. newark new jersey. well still to come tonight we have our thursday edition of show and tell and then another example of your tax dollars being wasted on one of the defense projects tonight we turn the spotlight on the littoral combat ship program and ask are the billions being spent on these ships really worth. it and we're going to do the work to bring justice or accountability.

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