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let's not forget that we are the party great. i think. either one well. we never got there very safe get ready for the freedom. party it's time for show and tell on tonight's program now last time we told you the wired magazine it finally released the alleged poll travelogues between bradley

manning adrian lamo but now the details of those conversations are out in the open and we're wondering if wired should have released that shot logs a lot earlier so it's going to produce a phrase that in a sense easy to find out what you have to say. still a journal mo and kevin posing a huge story the alleged gold chat logs between him and bradley manning and wired magazine well they chose the only published excerpts until recently so by the time they've released the full logs more than i you're high. practiced now it turns out limo told banning that talking to him was like talking to a journalist and worse yet told him it was like talking to a crits so he promised he would be treated either as a confession or an interview neither to be published so for the past year all of us reporting and following the story had no idea what wired was concealing by the way it looks like now either come impulse in the next talk or himself genuinely believe

that pieces of this person only a matter of government security as he claimed or he was just trying to protect his longtime associate and source a jerusalem full when we asked you for your comments no one seemed very happy with how wired magazine handled the situation miles lacy well he said they should have released earlier so that everyone knew what that had they were talking about when it came to discussing the manning case yeah i'm sure the department of justice would agree furious maxwell told us yes it was definitely a disappointment they didn't release the chart logs earlier it would have cut back on a lot of media outcry over max given this new information i think the media should be crying out a lot louder than they are now let's go over to ted he said that they should have released the full logs right from the beginning and they have to agree with us by

holding back the full chat logs for more than a year wired magazine they not only protect their limo from well deserves scrutiny in the press but they also could have hurt bradley manning the facts this is a head of credibility not just the limo but kevin posts into wired magazine as well . thanks for having us your input and here's our next question for you just spoke to an aspiring of the young turks about janks departure from m.s.n. b.c. and where the future of the media could be going so for now it's easy exposure. remains that goal for people to reach but when will that change let us know you think how long until web news media surpasses the big three cable networks you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and those your responses just might make you don't. want to latest chapter of hacktivists versus the world anonymous a non-secular unleashed fury on a new entity think of it as an organization that supposedly represents the height of military power in global politics i'm talking about nato now through

a string of tweets this morning anonymous announced their latest retrieval of data saying yes nato was breached and we have a lot of restricted material with some simple injection and the next days of waiting for interesting data are just a short while later they decide to be very nice about their cyber attack and said it we're sitting on about one gigabyte of data from nato now most of which we cannot publish as it would be irresponsible but oh and they go now just to make sure everybody knew their claims were serious if they did tweet a link to a restricted file although neither you nor i have access to the servers they can actually read that or type that information and then shortly afterwards and all of us also it's with a link to pieces of nato security handbook and then pointed out the irony that nato workers have failed to follow their own security procedures meanwhile unnamed members of nato have also confirmed that attack citing the dangers of the activist organization gaining such incredibly secret information so perhaps a blessing in disguise yes anonymous did get highly sought after information from

one of the most well known organizations in the world but they decided to play the nice card in opted not to release that classified information for now but nato isn't the only group that's feeling the burn of hacktivists right now even rupert murdoch's empire can't hide from the cyber hacking ways of little sec according to their own tweets they're currently working with specific news organizations to share what private information they've obtained from hacking news corp files a new news corp pretty sure that lois like will uncover a treasure trove of information on the way they conduct business so it appears of anonymous and will also have strong. as ever and despite the laws like announced its retirement back in june seems like they just couldn't help themselves they had to get back into the game but they've also teamed up with it on the seems like the hacktivism realize that they have a lot more things in the world to correct early stand up and for that i'm quite interested to see how nato and the f.b.i. are going to respond to anonymous sex efforts to take down some of us to torrijos organizations in the worlds. and our it's a last week instead of just talking about the bloated defense budget and wasteful

programs in broad terms we decided to give you a specific example one that could end up costing us six hundred billion dollars the jail t v so this week we're going continue that trend that we're going to take a look at the littoral combat ship program a combat ships are fast they're designed to operate in shallow coastal waters are lightly armed and the navy is planning on building fifty five of them that means that they would comprise more than one sixth of the entire fleet the navy is planning two different versions of the l.c.s. there's the freedom class led by lockheed martin and the independence by general dynamics and also the usa of mobile alabama the cost of those vessels have already doubled from two hundred twenty million dollars per copy to four hundred eighty million and now in the president's fiscal year two thousand and twelve budget we see it as to meet and cost of five hundred and thirty seven million for the l.c.s. one and six hundred fifty three million for l.c.s. too so it's not cheap it's rising in price each year and most importantly are these

vessels even going to work apparently there's a little bit of a problem between building the vessels and the mission modules our guest tonight is going to tell us all about it here to discuss this is paul mccleary reporter for defense technology international thanks so much for being here and i'm thinking ok so give us some of the details fill us in on exactly what the problem is with this littoral combat ship program so the ships are being built but then when it comes to the weapons systems there's a bit of a time lapse yeah the mission modules i mean the ships are designed two different missions so it's a different mission modules we're through you are going to port and switch out one mission module for the other then go back out and do mine hunting different surface to surface you know reviews of things like mission modules are behind schedule and over cost so that's part of the problem the problem this problem with the ship is well. the congress put four hundred eighty million dollar cap on the ships which obviously they've got. over but the second version of both ships one was seven

hundred million one of six hundred million so now we're building the fourth and fifth. and no there is theoretically supposed to stay in the four or five hundred million range why read a fourth and fifth model because the first second and third weren't built correctly so we already wasted a lot of money going to building the same ship essentially and making small tweaks fifty five so i think there are ten more coming this year twelve more each year for the next decade or two after the explain to me why it is that they have to have can different companies working on them why is it general dynamics and also and why lockheed martin. why the competition if you have one you know end of project or end goal in mind the competition is really initially supposed to keep costs down and to throw to the companies at the problem and say who come up with the best solution. solutions you know some course some parts don't but the navy then decided to buy both and split the cost erotically driving the cost down for the entire body that

is yet to be proved that that's going to happen. and people are confused as to exactly what the navy's thinking is doing this over the long haul it might reduce some costs but now you have the problem where you have two different ships that you've heard different mission modules so you have to design new mission modules different modules of both ships which drives up the cost of machine tools well having i think also the whole battle grounds absolutely genius is what would you guess was it that approved all this is it's strictly in the hands of the navy it's not congress anymore it's the navy the really driving the ship on this but congress like you mentioned they initially put that four hundred eighty million dollars cap on it and now the price has gone up and they still had another cap and they say well actually really want to get more two thousand and twelve of those just said yes. i mean it's we have two hundred eighty ships now of the navy wants three hundred thirteen and so this is as you said it's going to make a big part of the fleet in future years so on some love. congress hands are tied because they don't have a lot of the d.t.g.

one thousand program that flamed out so they don't have too many new ships coming so this is really going to be the future the navy well let's talk about what the future of the navy is my it is that they want to build it up so much and we've heard from people like former secretary of defense robert gates of the future is these air and sea wars but you know is our navy fleet really equipped for that i think there was a report that came out recently that said twenty two percent of the navy ships didn't even pass the inspections for twenty levon those are the ones that we already have you know the numbers have been about between fifteen and twenty five percent of the fleet is not has problems with with spare parts and parts it just won't work for a couple years now that mostly comes from i mean the big defense budget cuts in the ninety's are kind of rearing their head here so all of the services that big hit men and staffing a lot of that stuff in came in procurement and people the bean counters those are the guys who go first so they weren't keeping. a very good eye on this so the past

twenty years or so so a lot of the ships have just been kind of floating along and they have the navy hasn't done a very good job inspecting them but what is the right way to go about this because you say you're blaming this on the budget cuts you say in the ninety's that we need right now is we need budget cuts in twenty eleven when it comes to defense especially when you see social programs that are the ones that are being cut right so how do you keep enough people around that they can make sure that our equipment is up to par that all of the ships in the machines are up to par but they're also not launching these you know decades long projects that take forever and run up in cost that's part of the problem the navy hasn't spent wisely much of duty hasn't spent wisely to spend a lot of money but not spending in the right spots and else just because cost two hundred twenty million and that being six under seven hundred million that's a lot of extra money that they didn't expect to spend that didn't go to spare parts that didn't go to higher. more people to to inspect the cop out just to say right

and spend wisely sorry please forgive us but so what is are they giving out for you know what kind of barren land and their excuse me errancy war is are we really gearing up for the future of china i mean china is the big threat china's air sea battle is geared towards china well never say it but i mean that's that's what they're looking at the point is i was trying to see i think what they're looking at with l.c.s. is using you ease my funding minesweeping for the bigger ships and kind of run a screen for the carrier strike group. and you know with fifty five of them i mean the us too has problems with rusting now that's in dry dock they had to take the second one and the problem they haven't actually taken all the water it's only been in water about eight months well that's that's just pleasure it makes me feel really good about where all of our money is being spent all thanks so much for joining us thank you very much. i just to have we have our tool time later tonight that winner think they can get no offers great accommodations have more and now we come back and then have a our bill o'reilly makes

a very stupid comment about the poor and the t.s.a. is going to start looking at your private parts. sometimes to see the story and see so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realize that everything you . don't. charge is a big. deal . and yet.

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to sacrifice tool time award tonight it goes to grind kill me from fox and friends say during this morning's show hosts we're talking about a boy scout leader from the u.s. who was arrested in the bahamas he spent four days in jail after a bullet was found in his fanny pack when he was trying to board a plane to listen to brian brian kilmeade comment on this story seems so severe it does especially in the bahamas where your industry in the combinations aren't like there are good more which are here are sterling but it's good to know some ways were a whole lot of like you get row offers sterling accommodations the owner now brian now joins a long list of crazy right wingers who think the game oh is just

a tropical resort we documented on the show some of the stupid comments of the g.o.p. has made about guantanamo bay probably over the last year or so i wonder if you remember this one. keep in mind these detainees they had things they'd never had before you and your biggest problem get billy's right you know what it's obesity you're eating better than they've ever eaten before they had better medical care they had better legal counsel i mean. you got to draw the line somewhere that that's right the only problem with detainees that get now are facing is putting out a few extra pounds according to senator inhofe plus a very getting medal of medical care so what more could a detainee possibly want that we also called our professional wind bag rush limbaugh are calling it mo club med for muslims on his website he sells t. shirts about stay classy rush now if you've been paying attention to our show you should know the get go is that the prison facility in cuba is seen as a symbol of u.s. human rights abuses around the world and facility was established in two thousand

and two by the bush administration to hold detainee's from the war in afghanistan and later also iraq and since that time reports of abuse and torture of prisoners has been widespread international red cross has said that they're concerned about waterboarding sleep deprivation beatings indefinite detention at the facility and many detainees even that help that facility for years without any legal representation some have been just declared under trial because they've been tortured and so therefore they will never see a day in court i could simply be detained indefinitely in the bush and now obama administration's refused to discuss those reports of abuse because of national security issues and fact that we don't even know how many people are at all i reports will tell you about one hundred seventy detainees are currently out of the syllabi but of course the pentagon won't confirm that number and we've also spoken about the eight detainees who have died while being held at guantanamo bay the pentagon claims they were suicides but a lot of critics disagree in fact on this show we interviewed harper's magazine

scott horton who wrote an award winning article casting doubt on the official story of those suicides so with all of that information on get well including accounts for former detainees about ramp. the use of the facility is certainly sound like they offer sterling accommodations maybe brian kilmeade should pack his bags for a long weekend head down to give over a little r. and r. i bet of the g.o.p. these would make it one day living in inhumane from nations that those detainees face daily and that's why we're giving brian kilmeade tonight's full time work. ok it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening is r.t. producer jenny churchill and made us a nominee the head of the herd on the hill reporter excuse me for roll call thanks for joining me guys. who are old enough pretty certain that.

you didn't know i just i think here but very. very in my ear it was this it was low over here it was loud for you. to have to. decide ok. brian kilmeade. and so are bill riley and lou dobbs take a look like. if you're going to report the poor in america because you're going to lose you can still watch jobs in a row united absalom what i mean there is. a blessing in there being you know that you know we don't want to get in oh my god is this just makes me angry in so many ways it because i just love it they get to watch fox news if you watch bill o'reilly lou dobbs so obviously learned all poor i mean i think that there is something to be said for the fact that clearly people that live in poverty in the united states are not living in the same type of poverty that we see in a lot of undeveloped countries or people live last year on less than a dollar

a day and you literally are starving but there is still poverty which is rampant in this country and for them to just brush it aside like it's new big deal. i'm crazy well yeah i was trying to make a point well you know we didn't have a lot of money when i was growing up we didn't get a t.v. until i was in high school you know lou you didn't get a t.v. until you were in high school because your old. fashioned. point is also that poor people in the us are actually quite poor and to say i think in that spot they fed funding like poor people have stuff and i'm not sure that that is actually a barrier i'm sorry metric for being poor is because you have stuff and because you eat doesn't necessarily mean that you aren't or right and having a microwave that cost you thirty dollars at best buy really makes you living it up i mean i would really like to see both of them live for one year on twenty two thousand dollars a year with children and all the expenses and all actually paying taxes which i'm

sure none of them do well i just don't think of the ever actually no because to them if you have cable that makes you poor if you don't have you know if you have direct t.v. then maybe you're more along the normal ranks of individuals out there let's move on to another one and funny enough we were just talking about this with a controller of the kind of something to do with bill o'reilly during that whole scandal. when he was leaving voice mails on a producer's about some of the things he wanted to do with the sex toys with her. sex stories are back in the news thanks to the economy as they followed thank. every month early two years ago maybe. sex toys sales are gooing right now see n.b.c. has been reporting on this too is i guess you've got to trust the business news people right. i think there might be a number of factors for this my personal take is not necessarily people are having more sex although it could be because if you stop going out if you have less money

to spend so you're just spending more time at home doing it or you know maybe guys have less money to take girls out on dates or they're just buying more sex toys to pleasure themselves and selves busy when. times are really tough and when you know there are economic stresses and financing issues usually people aren't getting along and so well. i mean it's also something to do exactly how you and i know you have something more fun to do than perhaps sitting at home with a video right but maybe i've just been covering was that i think that it hansen's the experience here and we can say that yeah i mean i guess you know when you're down and out in america you get down and dirty i don't know. because normally when the when the economy is bad you normally see divorce rates go down because people can't necessarily afford it we have to get a divorce and or to get a lawyer you could say or to you know split their earnings and start leading separate lives so maybe that's the only way that couples that really like each other anymore have to try to get along and you're going ok i'm. sorry i always

manage to make things uncomfortable. here's a story that's funny i want to know who's suffering obviously not bill o'reilly or lou dobbs or poor people in america but the hill reported today that apparently a lobbyist in washington d.c. are suffering because congress is just so caught up with this entire debt ceiling debate they haven't had time for any other legislation and so there are a lot of us that are sitting around trying to get trade deals passed and everything well they just have they have nothing to do and you know who it's actually it's a really sad day in america when the people who make their money by passing laws that affect other people can't make their money it's really all right but i mean i think it's interesting that the lobbyists are in fact well not all of them but namely some of the like patton boggs for example who the big big law firm they've actually made quite a bit of money but other law firms so like the highest but not i don't i'm happy

you mentioned that because my second reaction to the story once i started actually reading into it was the first time i looked at the hill headline and then you start reading into the numbers and you realize that it's really just a crock it's all free. why because patton boggs last year made twenty four point seven million and this year they made twenty point five million and so according to the dogs they're really down and out and that means that they're suffering this is sick the culture is. gates last year me point eight million this year they're nine point six million and also out of time and also remember that know what's going to happen with the debt ceiling bellows the lake once all of you know all the dust settled and then i think a lot of it's all kind of gear up and head out and figure out what's going to happen and how they're going to let me buy your vote. for you guys because you know that some of the members of congress are missing their steak dinners right now because they actually have to work into the fundraisers last story we obviously talk a lot about the t.s.a. on this program they're kind of changing their ways do we have

a visual of what with the new things are going to look at usually it was the full body scanner that you had to go through it a lot of people were upset oh we have it we have it now you don't have to feel so naked when you go through the airport bodies scanner the government will install new software at forty one airports instead of a full body image that reveals everything that new software shows age or narrate silhouette any suspicious objects age and there are a slew. like everybody today was thinking to privacy when and i think about it's a good question to start asking but then apparently people thought oh they're taking the t.s.a. agents out of the pictures you're no longer having a person actually sit there and look at you it's not as creepy but actually the t.s.a. agents are viewing those passenger the things in a separate room so it's not as awkward for you so you don't have to see them right there the new images are very cartoon mike and i love that they worked for months to develop this software to make that image crappier like i know you and. barbie

dolls. but it was a lot of hard work to go back to nine hundred ninety graphic. technology because to advance now we have to downgrade it because. app and right psychology gets to advance and our privacy starts getting screwed but we should point out that this is only for like the super or extremely graphic photos which only accounts for i think seventy two machines yeah and the other two hundred fifty are back scatter machines so it's kind of that almost funny image right i mean i think there's no more than eighty machines that actually do this and then we have something i've read somewhere between fourteen hours in plus airports in this country so my question is gay for privacy but but only for eighty machines and you know i don't like the left but i you guys came from there anyway i got to wrap it up thanks for that here's a letter for tonight's show thank you for tuning in to these come back tomorrow milou in a sense from kate i was going to be on to discuss the latest out of afghanistan how appears that ten years in the pentagon isn't any closer to understanding the muslim

world and i need time to get into the family i want to show on facebook followers on twitter you can catch it all on you tube and coming up next is adam versus the next. you know somebody should see the story and see so. you think you understand it and then he did something else here's some other part of this and realize that everything you say you don't. charge is a big. deal . and you know.

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