happy with how wired magazine handled the situation miles lacy well he said they should have released earlier so that everyone knew what the heck they were talking about when it came to discussing the manning case yeah i'm sure the department of justice would agree furious maxwell he told us yes it was definitely a disappointment they didn't release the child logs earlier it would have come about on a lot of media outcry well max given this new information i think the media should be crying out a lot louder than they are now let's go over to ted he said that they should have released the full logs right from the beginning and i have to agree with you guys by holding back the full chat logs for more than a year wired magazine they not only protected limo from well deserved scrutiny in the press but they also could have hurt bradley manning the facts this is a hit of credibility not just the limo but kevin posted into wired magazine as well

. thanks for giving us your input and here's our next question for you just spoke to the young turks about jenks departure from the us n.b.c. and where the future of the media could be going so for now it's easy exposure remains that goal for people to reach but when will that change let us know you think how long until web news media surpasses the big three cable networks you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response it just might make it on air. or the latest chapter of hacktivists versus the world anonymous anon unleashed theory on a new entity think of it as an organization that supposedly represents the height of military power in global politics i'm talking about nato now through a string of tweets this morning anonymous announced their latest retrieval of data saying yes nato was breached and we have lots of restricted material with some simple injection in the next days waiting for interesting data or just a short while later they decide to be very nice about their cyber. back and said it

we're sitting on about one gigabyte of data from nato now most of which we can not publish as it would be irresponsible but no nato now just to make sure everybody knew their claims were serious that they did tweet a link to a restricted file although neither you nor i have access to the servers they can actually read that protect that information but then shortly afterwards anonymous also its way to the link to pieces of nato security handbook and then pointed out the irony that nato workers have failed to follow their own security procedures meanwhile unnamed members of nato have also confirmed that attack citing the dangers of the activist organization gaining such incredibly secret information perhaps a blessing in disguise yes anonymous did get highly sought after information from one of the most well known organizations in the world but they decided to play the nice card in opted not to release that classified information for now but nato isn't the only group that's feeling the burn of hacktivists right now even rupert murdoch's empire can't hide from the cyber hacking ways of lulz sec according to their own tweets they're currently working with specific news organizations to

share what private information they've obtained from hacking news corp files in the news corp pretty sure that cover a treasure trove of information on the way that they conduct business so it appears of anonymous and lulz sec or strong as ever and despite the fact that laws like announced its retirement back in june seems like they just couldn't help themselves they had to get back into the game but they've also teamed up with an onset seems like the activists of realize that they have a lot more things in the world to correct early stand up and for that i'm quite interested to see how nato and the f.b.i. are going to respond to anonymous sex efforts to take down some of the most notorious organizations in the world. are it's the last week instead of just talking about the bloated defense budget and wasteful programs in broad terms we decided to give you a specific example one that could end up costing us six hundred billion dollars the jail t v so this week we're going continue that trend we're going to take a look at the littoral combat ship program combat ships are fast they're designed on. brayton shallow coastal waters are lightly armed and the navy is planning on

building fifty five of them that means that they would comprise more than one sixth of the entire fleet the navy is funding two different versions of the l.c.s. there's the freedom class led by lockheed martin and the independence led by general dynamics and also tell us a of mobile alabama the cost of those vessels have already doubled from two hundred and twenty million dollars per copy to four hundred eighty million and now in the president's fiscal year two thousand and twelve budget we see an estimated and cost of five hundred and thirty seven million for the l.c.s. one and six hundred fifty three million for l.c.s. too so it's not cheap it's rising in price each year and most importantly are these vessels even going to work apparently there's a little bit of a problem between building the vessels and the mission modules in our guest tonight is going to tell us all about it here to discuss this is paul mccleary reporter for defense technology international paul thanks so much for being here tonight thank you ok so give us some of the details fill us in on exactly what the problem is

with this littoral combat ship program so the ships are being built but then when it comes to the weapons systems there's a bit of a time lapse yeah the mission modules i mean the ships are designed to perform different missions so it's a different mission modules we're through theoretically would go into port and switch out one mission module for the other then go back out into the mine hunting surface surface to surface. things like mission modules are behind schedule and over cost so that's part of the problem the problem there's problems with the ship as well. the congress put four hundred eighty million dollars cap on the ships which obviously they've gone over but the second version of both ships one was seven hundred million one of six hundred million dollars so now we're building the fourth and fifth models and there's theoretically supposed to stay in the four or five hundred million range why do we need a fourth and fifth model because the first second and third weren't built correctly so we already wasted a lot of money on the building so. ships and of the making small to be exploding

fifty five so i think there are ten more coming this year about twelve more each year for the next decade or two now can you explain to me why it is that they have to have two different companies working on them why is that general dynamics not still and why lockheed martin. why the competition if you have one you know end of project or end goal in mind the competition is really initially supposed to keep costs down and to throw to the companies that the problem and say who can come up with the best solution. both solutions you know some parts don't but the navy then decided to buy both and split the cost theoretically driving the cost down for the entire buy that just to be proved that that's going to happen. and people are confused as to exactly what the navy is thinking in doing this over the long haul that might reducing costs but now you have the problem where you have two different ships that you've heard different mission modules so you have to design new mission modules different modules of all ships which drives up the cost of the machine

tools well having up the cost of the whole battlegrounds absolutely genius what genius was it that approved all they say it's strictly in the hands of the navy it's not congress anymore it's the navy the really driving the ship on this one but congress like you mentioned they initially put that four hundred eighty billion dollars cap on it and now the price has gone up and can they still put another cap in they say no actually really like doing it for two thousand and twelve of them just said yes. i mean it's we have two hundred eighty ships now over the navy wants three hundred thirteen in there and so this is as you said supposed to make up a big part of the fleet in future years so on some level congress hands are tied because they don't have a lot of they have the d.t.g. one thousand program that flamed out so they don't have too many new model ships coming so this is really going to be the future the navy well let's talk about what the future of the navy is and why it is that they want to build it up so much i mean we've heard from people like former secretary of defense robert gates that the future is these air. and sea wars but you know is our navy fleet really equipped

for that i think there was a report that came out recently that said twenty two percent of the navy ships didn't even pass the inspections for twenty levon those were the ones that we already have yeah the numbers have been about between fifteen and twenty five percent of the fleet is not problems with with spare parts and parts it just don't work for a couple years now that mostly comes from i mean the big defense budget cuts in the ninety's are kind of rearing their head here so all of the services took a big hit in manning and staffing and a lot of that stuff in came in procurement and people the bean counters those are the guys who go first so they weren't keeping a very good eye on this for the past twenty years or so so a lot of the ships have just been kind of floating along and they have the navy hasn't done a very good job spec to them but what is the right way to go about this because you say you're blaming this on the budget cuts you say in the ninety's what we need

right now is we need budget cuts in two thousand and eleven and when it comes to defense especially when you see social programs that are the ones that are being cut right so how do you keep enough people around to that they can make sure that our equipment is up to par that all of the ships in the machines are up to par but you're also not launching these you know decades long projects that take forever and run up in cost that's part of the problem the navy hasn't spent wisely much of duty hasn't spent wisely this spent a lot of money but not spending in the right spots you know cost two hundred twenty million and that being six on that seven hundred million that's a lot of extra money that they didn't expect to spend that didn't go to spare parts that didn't go to hiring more people to to inspect that is a cop out just to say i didn't spend wisely sorry please forgive us but so what is are they gearing up for you know what kind of air and land in their excuse me air and sea war is are we really gearing up for the future of thinking china or who's i mean we're going to go china is the big threat china as the battle is geared towards china will never say it but i mean that's that's what they're looking at a fight. the south china sea i think what they're looking at with l.c.s.

is using u a v's mind hunting minesweeping for the bigger ships to kind of run a screen for the carrier strike group. and you know with fifty five of them i mean the us too has problems with rusting now that's in dry dock they had to take the second one and the problem really bad and they haven't actually take it out of the water it's only been in water about eight months well that's that's just a pleasure makes me feel really good about where all of our money is being spent paul thanks so much for joining us thank you very much. i just ahead we have our tool time winner tonight that winner thinks they can get mo offers great accommodations have more and now we come back and then have a our bill o'reilly makes a very stupid comment about the poor and the t.s.a. is going to stop looking at your private parts almost all the right that.

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a plane but listen to brian we kill reads comment on this story seems so severe it does especially in the bahamas where you're in the city in the combinations aren't like you there or get my witchery or sterling boss it's good to know someone is worth a whole lot as i can get mo offers sterling accommodations oh no now brian now joins a long list of crazy right wingers who think the game oh is just a tropical resort we've documented on the show some of the stupid comments of the g.o.p. has made about guantanamo bay probably over the last year or so i wonder if you remember this one. keep in mind these detainees they have things they'd never had before you of the biggest problem is right now it's obesity they're eating better than they've ever eaten before they have better medical care they have better they have legal counsel i mean you know you got to draw the line somewhere that that's right the only problem the detainees at gitmo are facing is putting on a few extra pounds according to senator inhofe was a very getting medal of medical care so what more could

a detainee possibly want now we also called our professional wind bag rush limbaugh for calling get mo club med for muslims on his website he sells t. shirts about stay classy rush now if you've been paying attention to our show you should know the good mo is no club med the prison facility in cuba is seen as a symbol of u.s. human rights abuses around the world the facility was established in two thousand and two by the bush administration to hold detainees from the war in afghanistan and later also iraq and since that time reports of abuse and torture of prisoners has been widespread the international red cross has said that they're concerned about waterboarding sleep deprivation beatings indefinite detention at the facility and many detainees have been held that facility for years without any legal representation some have been just acquired under triable because they've been tortured and so therefore they will never see a day in court it could simply be detained indefinitely in the bush and now obama administration's refused to discuss those reports of abuse because of national

security issues and fact that we don't even know how many people are at all i reports will tell you about one hundred seventy detainees are currently have the facilities but of course the pentagon won't confirm that number and we've also spoken about the eight detainees who have died while being held at guantanamo bay depending on claims that they were suicides but a lot of critics disagree and in fact on this show we interviewed harper's magazine scott horton who wrote an award winning article casting doubt on the official story of those suicides so with all of that information on get mo including accounts or former detainees about ramp. abuse of the facility physically sound like they offer sterling accommodations maybe brian kilmeade should back his bags for a long weekend head down to give over a little r. and r. i bet you the g.o.p. mouthpiece would make it one day living in the inhumane conditions of those detainees face daily and that's why we're giving brian kilmeade tonight's tool time ward.

ok time for happy hour and joining me this evening is our producer jenny churchill and neda some nonny the head of the herd on the hill reporter for roll call thanks for joining me guys. and i was talking about the not cribbing not certain that you know i just said think you but very low elbel that very in my ear it was this it was low over here it was loud for you which it's not all given the negative i was standing side by ok. brian kilmeade is stupid and so are bill o'reilly and lou dobbs take a look why. if you're going to be poor be poor and you're because you're going to lose you can still watch jobs in a row you mean earlier a blessing. we don't want to. know my god is this just makes me angry so

many ways that because i just love it they get to watch fox news they get to watch bill o'reilly lou dobbs so obviously learned or i mean i think that there is something to be said for the fact that clearly people that live in poverty in the united states are not living in the same type of poverty that we see in a lot of undeveloped countries or people live less you know on less than a dollar a day and you literally are starving but there is still poverty which is rampant in this country and for them to just brush it aside like it's no big deal makes you crazy well yeah and lou was trying to make the point well you know we didn't have a lot of money when i was growing up we didn't get a t.v. until i was in high school you know lou you didn't get a t.v. until you were in high school because you're old when people go to our national ninetieth. point is also that poor people in the u.s. are actually quite poor and defect i think in that they felt something like poor people have stuff and i'm not sure that that is actually

a barrier i'm sorry metric for being poor is because you have stock and because you eat doesn't necessarily mean that you aren't pork and having a microwave that cost you thirty dollars at best buy really makes you living it up i mean i would really like to see both of them live for one year on twenty two thousand dollars a year with children and all the expenses and all actually paying taxes which i'm sure none of them do well i just don't think of the ever actually now because today if you have cable that makes you poor if you don't have you know you have direct t.v. then maybe you're more along the normal ranks of individuals out there let's move on to another one and funny enough we were just talking about this with the controller of the cut is something to do with bill o'reilly dinner for the whole scandal. when he was leaving voice mails on our producers phone. about sex with only the things he wanted to do with the sex toys but her. sex toys are back in the news thanks to the economy take a look thank you. looking good it impacts. every

month since the early two years ago maybe. sex toys sales are booming right now see n.b.c. has been reporting on this too is i guess you've got to trust the business news people right. i think there might be a number of factors for this my personal take is not necessarily people are having more sex although it could be because when you stop going out if you have less money to spend so you're just spending more time at home doing it or you know maybe guys have less money to take girls out on dates so they're just buying more sex toys to pleasure themselves and keep themselves busy well and times are really tough and when you know there are economic stresses and financing issues usually people aren't getting along and while. i mean it's also something they do like exactly how you have something more fun to do than perhaps sitting at home with a video right but i have just been covering i was right i think that it hansen's the experience you're a week we can say that yeah i mean i guess you know when you're down and out in america you get down and dirty i don't know. because normally when the

when the economy is bad you normally see divorce rates go down because people can't necessarily afford it we had to get a divorce and or to get a lawyer you could say or to you know split their earnings and start leading separate lives so maybe that's the only way that couples that are really like each other anymore have to try to get along and keep going ok i'm. sorry i always manage to make things uncomfortable. here's a story that's funny i want to know who's suffering obviously not bill o'reilly or lou dobbs or poor people in america but the hill reported today that apparently a lobbyist in washington d.c. are suffering because congress is just so caught up with this entire debt ceiling debate they haven't had time for any other. just play shit and so the poor lobbyist that are sitting around trying to get trade deals passed and everything well they just have they have nothing to do and you know who it's actually it's a really sad day in america when the people who make their money by passing laws

that affect other people can't make their money it's really. i mean i think it's interesting that the lobbyists are in fact well not all of them but mainly some of the like patton boggs for example who the big big law firm they've actually made quite a bit of money but other law firms so like the highest but not behind i'm happy you mentioned that because my second reaction to the story once i started actually reading into it is the first i looked at the hill headline and then you start reading into the numbers and you realize that it's really just a crock it's all a freaking lie because patton boggs last year made twenty four point seven million and this year they made twenty point five million and so according to the bugs they're really down to now and that means that they're suffering this is sick the culture is. gates last year made nine point eight million this year they're nine point six million and i also know and also remember that base we know what's going to happen with the debt ceiling bells so like once all of you know all the death

settled then i think the lobbyists will kind of gear up and head out and figure out what's going to happen and how they're going to let me buy your vote. for you because you know that some of the members of congress are missing their steak dinners right now because they actually have to work to fundraisers last story we obviously talk a lot about the t.s.a. on this program they're kind of changing their ways do we have a visual of what with the new things we're going to look at usually it was the full body scanner that you had to go through and a lot of people were upset oh we have it we have it now you don't have to feel so naked when you go through the airport bodies scanner the government will install new software at forty one airports instead of a full body image that reveals everything the new software shows a generic silhouette. any suspicious object a generic saloon i like that everybody today was thinking to privacy when and i think of that's a good question to start asking but then apparently people thought well they're

taking the t.s.a. agents out of the pictures you're no longer having a person actually sit there and look at you it's not as creepy but actually the t.s.a. agents are viewing those passenger the things in a separate room so it's not as awkward for you so you don't have to see them right you images are very cartoon like and i love that they work for months to develop the software to make that image crappier like i just i know you. read all right. a lot of hard work to go back to the one nine hundred ninety graphic. technology because to advance now we have to downgrade it but that's what happens right technology gets to advance and our privacy starts getting screwed but we should point out that this is only for like the super extremely graphic photos which only accounts for i think seventy two machines and the other two hundred fifty are back scatter machine so it's kind of that almost funny image i mean i think there's no more than eighty machines that actually do this and then we have something i've read somewhere between fourteen thousand plus airports in this country so my

question is gay for privacy but only for a.t.m. machines where you know i don't like change from there anyway. thanks for that excuse me that's it for tonight's show thank you for tuning in make sure you come back tomorrow milou in a sense from kate i was going to be on to discuss the latest out of afghanistan how to peers that ten years in the pentagon isn't any closer to understanding the muslim world and i mean time to get become a fan of the show on facebook followers on twitter you can catch it all on you tube and coming up next is adam vs the max. mission free accreditation free transport charges free. range minster free. three stooges side free.

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much more twenty four hours a day welcome to the program forced into action by the teacher in economies of italy and spain e.u. leaders. have agreed on a second bailout worth around two hundred twenty billion dollars to. unraveling economy in an unprecedented show of solidarity to save the euro the heads of state . of new laws to protect the u.s. credit rating agencies. reports from brussels. greece needs a second bailout and leads what's being called the euro zone's first ever default the deal involves athens boring more cash yet more money it has to pay back the agreement also requires private investors to swallow some losses something they're likely to resist e.u.

leaders also call on them to pump new funds into the country it's unclear how willing they'll be for that after such a kick in the teeth above all the experts are warning this is just a sticking plaster over the euro's wombs which won't tackle the real problem the vols debts of southern euro zone states greece have been rioting on the streets refusing to accept the e.u. savage cuts including lower benefits and salary freezes portugal's prime minister was forced to resign when the country's parliament blocked his austerity proposals italy passed painful spending cuts just last week but italians already planned a national strike to paralyze the country and its economy is much bigger than greece is in the middle of it all the euro's richest member germany reportedly doesn't want to help chancellor merkel facing an election battle at home has claimed many think in correctly the spaniards and greeks don't work hard enough i think they must say.