ball smoke clouds over the capital seventeen story building the foreign minister was on fire it was on the main street were ministries located one witness in the building said the explosion ripped through walls over the course almost on the street and they are from the remains of a car which they think was because they could have been some of the explosives didn't go walk according to some sources and some say there may still be people on the loose they agree and in the shock to the building seven people have been confirmed dead the prime minister's office has been hit so people from the city center in the train station are being evacuated. in the city center and organization has claimed responsibility for the help of global jihad they claim it's a it's a response to norway's involvement in afghanistan they also warn but it's just the beginning of their campaign now you're at the airport on your logo your colleagues been updating or so throughout the evening earlier on she was saying that there was

a lot of news actually getting through to people arriving there at the at the main airport close to the capital city now the information is filtering in what is the sense of the people around you what is their murder are they nervous their lives the sense that everywhere around for example just just behind me of the train the entrance to the train station trains have all been canceled oh there's an armed guards on police with machine guns and soldiers all around walking all around the airport here and people obviously are right. all right daniel bushell thank you bring you so latest about what you know as to say you're at the airport there you're not in the center but a lot of information a start to get back to you as well and i will be crossing back she later if that's ok with you thank you well earlier i spoke to her been shrewd he's editor in chief of an independent news magazine based in oslo he says his mother in law was near the site of that explosion this is how he described what she told him. all of the song there was this big blasts and people were screaming running around scared

they were the smoke it was just like. what we have seen for. cities around the world which has been attacked earlier we have looked at ourselves that peaceful nation. even though we are in two wars in afghanistan in and in libya so people are rather surprised shocked. those say that people are mostly on twitter feed certainly social networks so been. trying to not jump to conclusions too early i have to say though that lead is breaking news essentially that the police officer he was going to this can and has been should be juve. the politicians he is actually

tall and blonde and that he has according to newspapers and norwegian works. so this is this is rather or might be more complicated than we think it's too early to tell. history lecturer from oxford university told me the involvement of nato military campaigns could be the reason behind the attack. the most likely explanation is that norway's involvement as a nato member in on actions flying nato from libya to afghanistan will have been the basis for some backlash and whether that by flash comes from a libyan group or more generally from an islamic group clue to his whole star who. is obviously at the scene and i have to say we should remember that back in oklahoma city mention ninety five one was a huge trauma a duel. it will be left it must be the work of islamic terrorists and it turned out

to work a very christian fundamentalist mission to the u.s. government so with the proviso that we should not rule out all the possibilities the most likely explanation is obviously there's always going to. have an attack on it and i think it's really hard to if one is involvements and the other is perhaps . this trash economic power of an islamic group or a missing or is a soft option. if you think about a place like london paris. targets of terrorist attacks over the years even rage quite dramatic attack on a prime missile has. members who caught a new groom necessarily have such a little perhaps and i'm sure norway listening very peaceful very quiet for a long time but if you like mike any more involvement in the weekend and violence of the wars in one thousand miles away from rome come true. source there from

professor mark ullman join me on the line from oxford just a little earlier on as the events were unfolding with the scots the developments in oslo no further we're joined by political analyst and military expert eco love it thanks for taking the time to be with us tonight now we're getting reports so that the terrorist group help has a global jihad claimed responsibility for these attacks and also accusing the country of its military involvement in afghanistan do you think norway's now paying a price so to speak for its involvement with nato. you know he who watches the wind will not so and he who looks at the will not trip so terrorism is not an ideology it's a method and it's a method of the minority here those who can those who cannot promote their ideas through legal system through the election system they have to turn to violence to make them are known you know the group that has never been heard of before tries to make good p.r.

using violence and they can use any pretext for that involvement in afghanistan involvement in iraq or you know that many conscious that have no involvement in nato operations like bill russia or russia also suffer from this client of terrorism so i would not only put a direct link between afghanistan and for instance and norway paying the price for it none the less always traditionally been a pretty peaceful country we're hearing tonight the prime minister is saying this is very serious we will have a minister saying it's the that the worst thing norway has witnessed since the second world war i mean this must have been a shock tonight for everyone absolutely no terrorist attacks are intended to produce shock and to affect public opinion and it's a very sinister way of making our own victims for those terrorist groups but you know norway is a very specific contract as well as rush or bill or all sure neither norway nor

russia wrong grown terrorist groups you know so-called chechen terrorism terrorism in russia is not basically chechen in its origin russia as well as norway is a victim of imported terrorism you know most terrorism that commit their awful crimes in russia they come from abroad the same story happens in norway unfortunately where you don't know there's been criticised for providing safe haven to. potential terrorists isn't there i mean you think liberalism is come back to haunt the weight of you know i think it's a different kind of problem it's not a liberalism but many european conscious and their leadership of those who haven't faced this kind of threat before they are preaching naive so they criticize for instance rush hour or the united states being so hard on terrorism but the problem is that when a country like russia or united the united states they've been fighting terrorism for decades and these conscious have no practical approach you know in this case

russia has always. helped in organizing international front against terrorism and norway. is not actually being a safe haven for terrorists i would say this way but they maybe don't understand the whole severity of the problem they're going to face. a lot of theories about who may be responsible tonight is a sad one groups come forward that doesn't necessarily mean that they have done this or maybe as you say just just crushing it on the very unfortunate publicity around it i mean also think about the prophet muhammad cartoons that were published back in two thousand and six in denmark now the republic by a norwegian paper last year beginning of a twenty ten could that be anything to do with it at the time in norway it did cause a fuss again we all remember what happened back in two thousand and six with your last post and well i'm just wondering with a similar thing could be happening here now in norway and maybe you know they've taken a year or two the people with a grudge to bear about this to have their revenge you know i've been studying

terrorist activities for over a decade and a half and i see terrorist activity as more likely than a business with its own costs and its own profits then anika some kind of ideological activity or you know of denies it a terrorist attack is a pretty coarse the business and. region involvement in operation forces are all of projects there are more deeper reasons for that and more. terrorist strike talk cashing in on that tragedy and they're trying to attract attention mostly to get sponsorship from abroad. of course norway is hardly the sole victim of international terrorism as you say it is a global epidemic do you think that norway will be severely rethinking its security after this you know unfortunately many contras that have hold of their terrorism is not a lot now are facing it. which has no involvement in any kind of all this is new try

to ration smaller when many other countries public and those countries are thought that you see terrorism is a far away a tear it has nothing nothing to do with our domestic problems but now they have to face it and in this context the russian position for instance of american positions is quite likely to be useful so there should be an international front against this kind of activity or it thanks very much hugo took off military expert thanks for being on r.t. tonight so i was going to get your thoughts. journalists had a bricks or spoke to earlier on the she says the attacks have come as a complete surprise for norway and could prove that european governments have to rethink their policies on multiculturalism. one has terrorism in mind and one has also in mind. the norwegian engagement in afghanistan one could ask when so why norway and why not denmark and i think that the danish

intelligence service has prevented terror attacks in copenhagen and maybe just maybe the norwegian intelligence service has not been as alert as it should have been because one has simply not expected this and we know that all over europe in the u.k. in france in denmark in norway if you sort of look back through the years. certainly one has given safe haven to people who should never never have got to an asylum one is not surprised that this has happened and we have seen it several times we saw it nine eleven met with. we have seen the failed attacks on and copenhagen and now in norway and of course the european governments and also the you know we didn't governments have to sort of rethink the frame of mind to culture. all sorts not just of dogs as director of future terrorism project at the foundation for defense

of democracies in washington d.c. sir thank you for being on r.t. to talk about these very unfortunate events in the norwegian capital tonight and just as well it has to be said that noise participation in nato operations has been identified as a major factor maybe behind these attacks at least that's the claim of a group called the helpers of global jihad who said they are responsible for these one of these events tonight but why norway do you think well first of all we have to look to whole history between the jihadist movement the wonder claims and so good name today and those who find themselves a different name five six years ago norway has been you know over the past decade on. that was announced by usama bin ladin now dead and by someone here and at that time in the middle we've been asking ourselves what a good norway but there is another one and the fact is that inside norway they wear homegrown or actually locally grown jihadi groups who have been battling

politically with the government one of whom is or. a car who has been you know in the process of being deported but there is something else as well last week there was the publication of a book by the cultural editor of the danish newspaper that published the cartoons in norwegian language and there were threats so i want to put it in the framework of a struggle between the jihadist movement inside norway and the government and this is a you know very harsh warning to the government by those yard as well picking on what you're picking up on what you're saying there than terrorism it is thought is said to be spreading to northern europe has been traditionally the considered. there is a very safe air in the world i guess that's going to change after tonight well look there have been attacks before i can't in copenhagen there have been one successful attack in sweden let's remember last year and yes indeed geopolitically speaking the scandinavian countries thought that they would be you know surrounded the west by western europe or russia and it was never here was the scale of tonight's

surprise to a tall. actually not because what the jihad is are saying in their chat rooms for the last two years that they are preparing very patiently at banks and games not just the traditional capitals of where they attack london madrid russia or or new york but the other ones warning them so this is a critical mass reached by the jihadists inside norway at this point in time and when they reach that critical mass quoting to their targets this is when we learned this when the norwegian will learn when they have a problem and send a concrete now looking back to the nine eleven attacks for example they lead to far reaching changes in u.s. foreign policy what repercussions do you see coming out of norway as a result of this do you think what a lot depends on the readiness of the political culture of norway its political establishment look at spain for example which struggled with the notion britain and france who have different experiences russia and america have different experiences so it's going to all boil down to what is the readiness of the don't be too

important to realize that this is a fundamental right not just an incident and are going to send the police and then we'll go you know and as usual this is a game changer as you say international terrorism threat the global threat affecting us all how do you struggle to try and overcome that threat what can be done to it. and i think most of the experts you had before have been very correct in mentioning social fall you send a strong message within the international community about international solidarity this is not the problem of russia alone or of britain alone or with india alone and i would even say china imagine the five permanent members of the security council have been targeted by the same time of terrorism card or not the same time so there should be an action at the level of the united nations and to a very importantly it's not just counterterrorism we've got to work against indoctrination against radicalization against when it begins it doesn't begin with what it begins with with the ideology that ends up with the weapons so to one of those things you're inside drugs for a future terrorism project the foundation for defense of democracies in washington

d.c. thanks for being on thank you. well if you just joined us kevin and see the smaller let me bring you up to date on the main news norway's been shaken by double terror attacks this last evening first the center of all those hit by huge bomb the blast damaged parliamentary buildings including the prime minister's office where at least seven were killed over the promised himself was not armed then a gunman went on a shooting spree in a youth camp eyewitnesses report up to thirty may have been killed the police say they suspect the man arrested for the shooting is linked to the bombing in the capital just a little earlier state secretary christian emerson said quote the situation is the worst his country has ever seen and the prime minister again stopping work is called an emergency government crisis meeting tonight preliminary reports suggest a car bomb with a blast so powerful that it blew out windows over a kilometer radius away thick smoke was seen earlier arising from the nearby all ministry building after it too caught fire place evacuated both the city center and

oslo central railway station unconfirmed reports say the terror group the helpers of the global jihad claimed responsibility in response to norway's involvement in afghanistan and then came through news of a separate attack where a gunman reportedly dressed as a policeman opened fire at a youth rally outside always low he's been arrested but there are eyewitness reports claiming he may have killed up to thirty we heard that again i witness reports saying that some teenagers were seen trying to swim into the sea to get away from the terror that was around them and it terror police have reportedly been sent to that campus there were some seven hundred teenagers had been gathered for a labor rally. well our own correspondent is there at the heart of glass stricken oslo bringing us the very latest as it happens a first time thoughts are there for you just log on to our twitter feed you can access all of it from the massive all of last aftermath is available any time you

want to access it there's a twitter link to our you tube channel to featuring the latest dramatic and awful i must say pictures coming revealing of the despair and destruction in norway's capital tonight it is our top story this hour it's no twenty one minutes past midnight my name is kevin owen and you're watching our team. take a look at another main news story u.s. major credit agency says it will downgrade the greek debt to default status as a result of the second bailout for the country the plan agreed by e.u. leaders includes both government and private loans totaling around one hundred fifty billion euros for the moves of the single currency for now but critics say more troubles lie ahead. president sarkozy has been saying in brussels you know greece is a special case it's received this special support from the europeans and other countries won't receive that but of course. i mean do we believe that i'm not sure

that we do because it's inconceivable that the europeans wouldn't step in but they and it's also i think inconceivable that even the resources now available to the financial stability fund the sort of nascent european monetary fund i think they wouldn't really be sufficient in the end it was a sort of battle between the bond markets and the italian government so those sort of without wanting to paint nightmare scenarios i don't think you know we're out of the woods yet. serbia's lost war crimes suspect gore and how that has been extradited to the hague officials in belgrade hope his capture and extradition will clear the way to e.u. membership results he said of firth reports next the politicians desire for your acceptance is not shared by the man in the street. the last of the war crimes suspects wanted by the un is heading for the hague it's seen by many as the last

obstacle to serbia now gaining easy membership but some as skeptical that brussels will move the goalposts once again the government keeps. fulfilling new demands are coming from brussels but people are not feeling any benefits from it there are three feeling that things are becoming worse as a result of support for you is dropping so there is a growing gap between the voting in the borders and the government that stands and we will probably continue to an official government poll just out shows support for eighty membership among serbs at its lowest ever it's not a surprise that when portugal italy and many more countries are now struggling for the people here it no longer believe that the e.u. is going to be the answer to all their problems all show. many have relatives abroad and. things are.

besides. greece and there. would not be successful. but. this is a disillusionment in serbia if the governments apparent willingness to bend over backwards to eat in mons so it could be next on the ease list well another major sticking point is thought to be serbia's failure to recognize breakaway costs of a belgrade val's that will never happen despite many member states pushing for exactly that president but it insists that sebi is moral and legal implications have now been filled the song remains the same as led zeppelin says it. really hasn't changed has a chance as to why this road. his interest in the project the us the arrested for and had it certainly months for me it was a major obstacle to serbia and its weight to the shit there with its themes the way

to service those it's kept is part of the deal with the now he does so. well great. media mogul rupert murdoch seems to have come through the u.k. parliamentary hearings on the phone hacking scandal relatively unscathed but he now faces legal challenges in the united states where the frenzy over his employees unethical behavior is taking a different turn many americans say the embattled bt are imposed on nothing more than reflect national attitudes that no longer value people's privacy of his going to church accounts cover story. as the scandal over phone hacking by the murdoch media empire rages on public and political fury has mainly focused on ruthless tabloids out of control prepared to invade people's private lives and even the dad to get the story but some say in this day and age the whole concept of privacy is falling apart and in the u.s. more rapidly than elsewhere every time you tap on your cell or click on google or

use your mail service everybody's sort of just clicks through that you agree to our terms and conditions well those terms and conditions are very very heavily weighted against you and your privacy interests and we see breaches of privacy happening. all across america all across the world really in every sector surveillance is rampant but really this is all a microcosm of the biggest survey or all which is the state there's little americans can do with the state having sweeping access to their private information access that followed the nine eleven terrorist attacks under a new law known as the patriot act asana law his privacy was taken away from him in two thousand and two when he was detained by the f.b.i. for absolutely no reason he says and scrutinized from my. months without charge he's response for nine years he has voluntarily documented nearly every waking hour

of his life on the web he has subsequently even turned it into a form of art see all the toilets that i've used so you know that over here for example you know that on sunday november twenty fourth of two thousand and seven i've used this toilet i went grocery shopping at safeway over there on october seventeenth i got gas over here he posts copies of every debit card transaction so you can see what he bought where and when a g.p.s. device in his pocket reports his realtime physical location on a map and this is the shot he took on his way to our studio which was immediately uploaded on his website hasan says his extraordinary abandonment of his own privacy stems from the ignorance of the authorities but in the fear they decided well that guy looks a little different so he must be arab and if he's arab then he must have explosives everyone knows that that's a logical operating we we realize how ridiculous that logic sounds but when your country when your own country takes that on as the basis for national policy.

ignorance is the basis of national policy is a pretty scary situation. and that's how i got caught up in it for ha son piracy has become a reality of the past and he says he's not surprised that journalists or anyone else really would use the same surveillance tactics as the state in that sense it might be of no surprise that the chief architect of the patriot act the lawyer who put it together happens to be one of murdoch's hand-picked news corps board directors served as assistant attorney general in the bush administration and was described by some as the purveyor of the most sweeping curtailment of freedom in the u.s. system across the era at a time when corporations and the government can easily hack into people's private lives it doesn't come as a surprise when for example social networks give your personal information at companies or when other industries leave bob breaching the privacy in the u.s. it's so widespread and people have gotten so used to it that rupert murdoch seems

to be perfect part of the system rather than some special bill and with corporation has been undertaking some unique all lawful practices because here in america they are not so unique i'm going to check our reporting from washington our team. we bring you the latest more top story the situation in norway in the coming hours in full on next headlines less than a minute away. for the full story we've got it for. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. this

is our team or scope kevin though it may new story tonight norway suffers double terror attacks a huge blast hit several buildings including the prime minister's headquarters it's killed seven the prime minister of norway tonight that was said to be safe unconfirmed reports say the terror group the help of the global jihad claimed responsibility in response to the country's involvement in afghanistan and in a separate attack just lights up to thirty bodies have now been reported by eyewitnesses gunmen opened fire at a youth rally outside the capital police say they suspect the man arrested for the shooting is linked to the capital's bombing that's the main news tonight one of the story for you leaders agreeing on a second multi-million dollar bailout for greece fears over the union delving

deeper into debt the deal clinched at the summit in brussels prompted a major u.s. credit agency disabled downgrade the greek debt to default status. it's exactly midnight thirty one news from us in full in less than thirty minutes time then but next we travel to russia's southern europe the region which posed magnificent unspoiled landscapes enjoy. mountain ranges and hills roll across the landscape intricate crests and rocks tower of centuries old trainees. in the water wind and rocks constantly five supremacy they exist in a unique calm. deep holes in the dawn mines swift mountain streams and quiet springs flow from the ground. this is tyga night nature's peculiar creation on the border between the urals inside syria it is the site as

one of the brushes out of the way national parks. when national park warden valentin gregorio is on duty he uses a customized off road vehicle with large wheels to move around a forest causing the easiest way to the peaks of the ground tyga ny ridge you don't find roads or footpaths here. adventure enthusiastic so not put off by the hardships of the journey this group of tourists is from the city of chelyabinsk an industrial center in the urals probably is rock climbing today that destination is the top of a cliff called a quick noisy crest waging across this mountain stream is a dangerous task even on a quiet warm day its flow is still too fast. during the day the building takes food and fuel to the park's output.