there's a report on our. good evening on lucy popping up here in washington d.c. tom harpur will be back tomorrow but in the meanwhile here's what's coming up on tonight's big picture now the latest round of progression will deal or no deal leaders of both the house and senate unveiled their list budget plans for the collapsing debt ceiling so they're actually be some sort of bipartisan agreement that will save this country don't hold your breath or will the g.o.p.'s my way or the highway approach actually work and more importantly how long are the markets going to tolerate this childish political madness and transfer into norway where

the country is still reeling in the aftermath of the worst violence that nation has experienced since world war two and we'll explore what really motivated these horrific attacks and whether the same things could be just around the corner here in the u.s. . right well a weekend filled with name calling a sulking finger pointing and posturing and no i'm not talking about the latest episode of toddlers and tiaras i'm sadly talking of course about capitol hill the place where lawmakers might scream shall tell if sex affairs everything it seems except for important stuff like actually covering governing this country which of course is why with just one week to go until america defaults on its debts we were in a no closer to raising the debt limit and here's what senator harry reid said about the state of negotiations over this weekend. i spent all weekend trying to work

something out with republicans. but instead of moving forward we went backwards. so fed up senator reid and built his own plan essentially a last ditch effort to protect entitle mintz like social security and medicare now the plan includes two point seven trillion dollars in cuts with not a single penny in tax hikes on millionaires and billionaires so much for that whole shared sacrifice concept come on guys now this plan was of course endorsed by the white house today and here was here is senator reid's message the republicans take a look the bill also meets republicans demands two major demands it contains no revenues. and the amount of because it meets the amount of the debt ceiling increase since they want to run for the one that we couldn't so now hold the republicans have to do is say yes you're the man so that the republicans put aside their partisan bickering to sign on to a deal that essentially gives them most of what they want of course not now earlier

today speaker boehner and build his own plan that's a short term debt limit increase that cuts about a trillion bucks that's another debt limit vote next summer if you thought the timing was a little suspicious that says it's all right in the middle of the election season take a look. at time's running short i'm urging my house god willing to just order number of my senate colleagues just for his will and i think it would be irresponsible for the president to veto such legislation because it is a commonsense plan and well help us avoid the fall. so let me get this straight the speaker is speaking this country's economic future and a deal that neither the senate nor the white house intends to support. publicans short term plan is a nonstarter. and in the pointless. and i love the insanity here in capitol help for the preschool schoolers in congress no closer to eighty zero now can be done to prevent economic doomsday for the answer let's turn to richard well he's

a professor of economics at the university of massachusetts and the author of this book capitalism that's the plan because lobel economic meltdown and what did you about it richard thank you so much for being here this evening are here with all of them at the plans coming out of the madhouse otherwise known as capitol hill have you seen anything at all that resembles like a famed for lucian. no i don't and i think that the tragedy here is that with all the posturing that you showed us so clearly there actually now is a chance that they will not raise the debt ceiling and that the united states for a few days or maybe even weeks will be unable to spend about forty percent of the money that is due to be spent by the government because that money had to be borrowed and if they're not allowed to borrow it they're going to have to cut back expenditures what they learned on trade people yeah let me tell people what that means forty cents out of the dollar that the government spends it has to borrow if

they don't allow it to borrow more let's understand that the government's going to cut back it's going to be a problem the government is a large us government largest buyer of oil around the world it's the largest buyer of computer software it's the largest buyer of defense equipment if the government cuts back on these expenditures at a time when the world economy is already in crisis it's going to make that crisis worse it's going to make economic problems in this country clearly worse and it makes no sense as an economist to do this sort of thing everyone knows that will eventually have to make a deal because united states cannot stop functioning since it is the single most important economy in the world. and we are doing real damage as the countries around the world investors rich people corporations governments realize that politics is so out of control in this country the need to run for office and win next year in the presidential election so all over the car that we're actually

going to give them the message don't count on the united states rethink your investments here we think your holdings of dollars and the economic ripple effects of that if it lasts at all are very serious and even the run up to this point is already doing harm because it shows a system whose economic crisis is now being added to by fiscal and political craziness that the world has not associated with the united states until now and let me ask you into the debt that woman has been raised over one hundred times i mean this is supposed to be a routine kind of thing yes they grumble every time it comes up but they you know we haven't seen this kind of posturing before what's different this time what's changed. i think what happened was that you're quite right we have regularly raise the debt limit we did it several times under president bush it was proposed by president bush to raise it there was some grumbling from the democrats that it was

raised this is just the same game in reverse i think the republicans have decided this is their chance and they're going to go and posture to the american people that they're going to say two things one you're suffering economically which lord knows they are and the culprit here is the government so let's beat up on the government in general and the current government mr obama in particular and second vote for us because at least we won't let the government raise your taxes this is a play on people suffering an economic upset focusing their anger on the government and it's working and i think the republicans think this is their way into the white house because by contrast president obama's answer is we're. we won't cut social security medicare and medicaid as badly as those republicans and that doesn't sound in the same way doesn't grab you as much as the republicans and having no candidate at this point they're kind of desperate and they're doing what their conservative

portion the tea party want them to do which is to pretend to the american people that even though you've been fired by a private employer you a ploy or even though you were thrown out of your house by a bank that went to foreclosure your enemy is not the private sector that has fired and it's taken you out of your house your enemy is the government it's an amazing thing about american politics that we're trying to blame the government and we don't want to understand that the government is what's holding this economy together and if you take that away we're looking at a free for all of our economic system that none of us wants to see and of course is that terrible blame the government kind of attitude and force that was behind the norway tragedy but i will get to later in the show but you know we have fourteen point one million americans who are out of work right now i mean isn't the real problem a jobs crisis and not a debt crisis and is it isn't even possible to address the debt problem without first bringing americans back to work. law and not only that but if you if you cut

back over been spending you're going to make the unemployment worse you're going to throw all kinds of people out of work who are producing things that the government is no longer buying and those people will not be able to make their mortgage payments and they will lose their holdings which will further depress or an already depressed housing market this is a recipe for the kind of economic catastrophe that is coming out of a political glide this they cannot get beyond the notion of the government as evil to give you just one idea over the last two and a half years ninety eight percent of all mortgages in the united states that were given to people buying homes were either bought by the government or guaranteed by the government to put this in simple english if the government were behind the housing market the value of everyone's home in america would be many times less than what it is now we need the element to help us more than ever and of course if

the government hadn't bailed out the big corporations speaker perhaps they wouldn't have as big of a deficit problem at the end of the day i do hope that they wake up and see through this political dynasty you're talking about is we can't we can't mess around any longer unfortunately we're out of time but richard thank you so much for your time . you're very welcome now i here's what tom had to say recently about our nation's debt and who's really to blame for running up the bill take a writer. at his twitter town hall of yesterday president obama said this about republicans threatening to force america into default. as a responsibility to make sure we pay our bills we've always paid them in the past the notion that the us is one of the thoughts it's a debt is just irresponsible and i expect that it's actually more than irresponsible mr president it's nearly criminal what our nation is faced with today is a mountain of debt run up mostly by three republican presidents ronald reagan in the

to bush's and now today that very same republican party is saying no way to democrats who just want to pay off that pile of republican debt think about it this way the republicans ran up a huge credit card bill and now they're refusing to pay for it they took the good times the stimulation of the economy from all that spending and the political benefits models wars and now they don't even want to pay for it if you or i did that with a credit card and did it intentionally we'd be in jail that's why we're in debt before reagan took office our national debt was just under one trillion dollars and our top tax rate was seventy four percent but reagan promised the nation good times so he gave his rich buddies all of tax cuts and put two trillion dollars on the nation's credit card reagan borrowed and spent in just eight years

more money than every president of the united states from george washington to jimmy carter come by and now the republicans don't want to pay the bill for reagan stepped then george herbert walker bush came along he kept running up the nation's credit card so that by the time he left office four years later he added another one and a half trillion dollars to the day. after the credit card bill and today the republicans don't want to pay off her walker's debt either. that's two republican presidents in a row blowing up our national debt from just under a trillion dollars where it where it had been basically for all of american history over four point three trillion dollars in just twelve years then bill clinton comes into office raises taxes on the rich and slow down the growing national debt even though clinton tacked on another trillion dollars to the debt by

the time he left office in two thousand and one he actually had our nation running a budget surplus and was poised to pay off our entire national debt in just ten years by two thousand and ten last year so here we have two republicans reagan and bush running up a huge debt and a democrat bill clinton figuring out a way to pay it off and george w. bush gallatin it's out like reagan bush promised his billionaire funders and his family friends good so he cut taxes again for the rich and to give himself a shoo in victory in two thousand and four who started two wars and he paid for all the stuff the same way reagan and a current gore should paid for it by putting it on the national credit card it took bush only one year to turn bill clinton's budget surplus into a budget deficit so after eight years of the white house george w. bush took the five point seven trillion dollar debt that he had inherited mostly from reagan and his dad and turned it into

a ten point four trillion dollars heap of debt to hand over to president obama along with a nice little bonus gift of a republican great depression in total bush added over four point five trillion dollars to the national debt and republicans don't want to pay off bush's credit card bill either but while bush was piling on the debt republicans in congress had no problem raising the debt limit. the credit limit basically seven different times in all by the time president obama took office in two thousand and nine reaganomics said jack our national debt up nearly nine trillion dollars and yearly eight trillion dollars that debt was courtesy of three republican presidents this is what the so-called debt limit debate is all about this debate isn't about out of control spending or big government under president obama it's about republicans now

wanting to pay the bills that their own guys ran up and was to get some goodies imagine what would happen if you ran up a huge credit card bill and then call up citibank and said that you know i'm only going to pay it off if you give me something i want how would the police take your offer to pay off your credit card bill only if the bank for example sent you and a half a dozen friends on an all expenses paid trip to disneyland i think they'd throw you put in jail but when republicans ran up a nine trillion dollar debt and now don't want to pay it unless they get their wish list the media doesn't even mention how it all came about this is a crime and if republicans really are willing to crash the economy just to avoid paying off their own bills and to get some political capital for her president obama politically and they should be charged with financial fraud and thrown in prison and certainly never allowed to have the nation's finances and those

democrats who are too timid to call those theft from all of us what it is intentional fraud that actually even had a name starve the beast was what reagan called the strategy goes to the democrats deserve whatever the voters give. coming up who's the bigger threat as lawmakers stream us or christian fundamentalists i'll speak with all their prank show you for on what the u.s. could be worth when the tragedy in norway right after the break. new website it's twenty four seven live streaming news towns like to do about the ongoing financial hurricane unlimited bipolar the videos were down. and stories you may never find on news stream you. go to the. meet

the political. posts on our team don't just. want to know more we were mains in shock following last week's terrorist attacks that unfortunately left seventy six people dead and shortly after those attacks conservatives here in america were quick to pin the blame on the fevered boogeyman

evil muslim terrorists that drink the blood of freedom and feast on the bones of democracy or something like that so who was the jihadi al qaeda taliban or brown mastermind behind norway's terrorist attack. that's a white christian fundamentalist by the name of unders the thing brevik sure i'm butchering that name and it was our fifteen hundred page manifesto that frankly a little bit more like a tea party document names progressive policies immigration priest in jeans and of course islam as the biggest threats to this country so in light of norway's tragedy as it were three examining the threats posed by right wing christian extremists right here in the states i next guest says yes frank schaeffer is the author of numerous books including crazy for god how i grew up as one of the elect helped found of the religious right and lived to take all or almost all of it back frank welcome to the program. here you have a thank you here we have a guy that's fixated on the threat of immigration is basically

a bigot who just didn't want to ground people coming into his world believe the them in islam is somehow destroying western societies women who pursue career marxist liberal policies are all to blame on everything that's wrong with this country now i don't know about you but that sounds like somewhat familiar rhetoric have you heard that anywhere before. yeah let's start with this actual crime besides the bombing of the government building. the target card a bunch of kids ages eleven. how on an island that was a camp run by the equivalent in norway of our democratic party these were children of party leaders kids who were involved in there are there are politics in a school of all around the country wanting to learn the best and the brightest from progressive families in that country that's who he murdered in cold blood so this was not the act of a arranged. killer who just lashed out this was

a political act of terror against a political enemy if you generation of the progressive movement in the country in which he lived and if you work backward from that crime to what's in his fifteen hundred page manifesto which is a statement in favor of christian zionism uncritical support of the state of israel asking them to kick the palestinians out of israel and finish what he calls farce of negotiations with palestinians an all white europe europe with no muslims holy war declared on anybody from a non-christian background in europe you know what you really see here is is not the beginning of something but the continuation of a long history of bigotry that we see in our own country expressed in tea party documents. we were as a people like the show about gay people xander and sarah and so it isn't a question of could it happen in states it has we had men load an airplane with

gasoline and write similar statements before he plowed into an i.r.s. building we have hutaree militia training to hasten the return of christ by killing cops and soldiers and other us personnel in uniform we have all history of violence and terrorism in this country the oklahoma bombing obviously so this is not an isolated incident this is an incident that stands on a long train of terrorist acts in the west you. europe committed by people who identify themselves as christians who want to purify the race and or keep it. away from the incursions of people like muslim in immigrants or mexicans or hispanics or anybody else that comes into any of the societies that they fear and loathe as the other half is that to be fair i mean i don't argue with you that this kind of bigotry does exist in this country but it's a long stretch to go from the kind of rhetoric and believes that some of us may

find abhorrent to actually picking up a weapon and murdering innocent civilians in cold blood i mean some would say that that's sort of taking the argument a little bit too far how do you respond to it was it was a long stretch from european type top grams against jewish communities by cossacks where they would beat up a few people and rape a few women to the holocaust but it was a path that led somewhere and so you know eighteenth century nineteenth century anti semites eventually found their their hero is you as you would put it from their point of you in national socialism in the nazi party the problem with actions by somebody like this is sure they're extreme but when you look at the context of an extreme accent action if it's if it's a lone gunman a lunatic like the person who shot down those people in arizona recently who's been locked up that's one kind of crime horrific and awful but when you look at the sorts of crimes that bring with them an entire political package which is echoed by

respectable politicians and people in political parties across western europe and here in the united states with the tea party not calling for people to murder children with guns but calling for the result that this man was after and that is an all white nonimmigrant society controlled by people with what they would view as biblical principles replacing a democratic elected government with biblical laws saying the show up and would like to do when it comes to the issue of gay rights or. gay marriage or any of these things you know when you have people like robert george princeton who is glenn beck's mentor and who teaches jurisprudence there who's an advisor to antonin scalia on the supreme court and has pushed the roman catholic church to the far right here in america on things like stem cell research writing something like the manhattan declaration it's two hundred fifty evangelical leaders and roman catholic bishops signed on to calling for disobedience of the law when it comes to abortion rights family rates in terms of the ready people to marriage stem cell research

cetera et cetera it isn't that they are pushing people to commit violence or should be blamed for this man's violence i am simply saying the context here is not an isolated incident of it arranged psychopath or a serial killer who's just raping women and throwing them in now is this was a political act planned for years backed up by fifteen hundred page manifesto and the ideas expressed by this killer and he reasons not for the killing but his reasons for fearing europe is going to be taken over by them are echoed by an entire rising right wing slash fascist movement across the globe right now coming out of your hand the less we have our tea party they have their far right and anti immigrant parties they have same message for their populations they fear the other and this is the context of this crime i'll definitely agree with you that i think this country is certainly overlooking the threat of homegrown terrorism although i

don't really know how we can type this without further eroding our free speech and and civil liberties which we've seen unfortunately over the past few years think frank thank you so much more on taking the time to speak with us you're very welcome taken down now last week tom laid in on the destructive nature of hate and how it's consuming post america post nine eleven take a look. last night a man in texas was executed his name was marcus stroman and he was given a lethal injection by the state of texas because he let himself get consumed with eight ten days after nine eleven straw men one of us shooting spree hell bent on killing as many muslims as he could on three separate nights he walked into dallas gas stations with a shotgun opening fire killing two muslim men and shooting another man in the face the third victim. boy just barely survived the shooting will be on will be partially blind for the rest of his life because of his injuries he wasn't interested in i for an i justice why because he's muslim religion preaches

forgiveness all the way up until the day that strawman was executed and petitioned the state of texas to spare strawman's life launching a global petition to have a sentence commuted to life without parole. or give monster of admitting your sicko in fact i never hated him i never hated america for what happened to me i believe he was the interim and not capable of distinguishing between right and wrong otherwise he wouldn't have gone. in my face forgiveness is the best i would see an islam doesn't allow for hate and killing. and stroman took notice he was struck by the compassion that was afforded to him by one of his victims and he changed his way in a message to rice billion from jail. in the free world i was free but i was locked in a prison inside myself because the hate i carried in my heart is due to rice's message

of forgiveness that i'm more content now than i've ever been. and last night strawman built on the message and used his last breath to issue these last words for us all to hear. is going on in this world and it has to stop hate causes a lifetime of pain as a result of what a group of a full man and not what a religion did on nine eleven our nation just like strawman admitted to is often consumed with hate. we have a man running for president who's disqualified muslims from serving it is of inspiration and argue that our nation has the right to deny muslims a place of worship. would you be comfortable pointing the most of my either in your cabinet or as a federal judge no. i will not so you're saying any community if they want to ban a mosque yes they have the right to do that we have a prominent member of congress who is using his powers as chairman of the homeland

security committee to whip up fear in our nation and investigate american muslims for radical islam i believe it's important to have this investigation on radicalization of the most some community we've seen what happened in england we know that al qaida is trying to recruit people over here such as they did with the subway bombing in new york chrystia the attempted subway bombing times square bombing these are all people would be legally in the united states we have the most popular cable news network saying that all terrorists are muslims and warning of warning americans about victory mosques in new york city in tennessee and a few old caliphate springing up to bring shari'a law to america. not all muslims are terrorists put all terrorists are muslim. and stories you never find on. that piece of meat.

posting more on our team doctor rushed in just a. few. moments and frankly of enlightenment he forgot how to end this hateful so-called war.