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for. for. now the time since the tragic norway bombing and shooting details of begun to emerge about why anders breivik have done what if it was manifesto breda quoted anti muslim blogger pamela geller several times a day many people to put two and two together and think that maybe this right wing christian terrorist was strongly influenced by her writing. and nobody wants that

kind of connection on their track record so an attempt to save face pamela geller responded to all the news outlets who made the connection between her material and that of the norway bomber but that response isn't exactly what you'd expect the inner most recent post on her blog atlas shrugged geller talked about the summer camp the grave opened fired on and she called the labor party's summer youth camp and indoctrination at training center she explained that it promoted anti israel ideologies and then taylor wrote the camp was run by the youth movement of the labor party and used to indoctrinate teens and young adults she went on to say grave it was targeting the future leaders of the party responsible for flooding norway with muslims who refuse to assimilate who commit major violence against norwegian natives including a violent gang rapes with impunity and who live on the dole all done without the consent of norwegians now it's big progress them pointed out yeller also posted pictures of the kids camp just a short while before the shooting and underneath the image she wrote note of faces which are more middle eastern or mixed than pure norwegian so really is this

geller's way of defending the actions of very big here to give a reason for the slaughter of innocent people and sadly against anything of the things in this world evidence really does seem to point to yes and we should know the gallows original capture caption under the picture of the kids has since been taken down and replaced with a few sentences where she now expresses sorrow about what happened but it's only after media outlets shared pieces of that original post granted gellar has a blatant right wing anti muslim bias but it is still absolutely beyond disgusting that she kind of actually defends brave its actions here and its long playing greenwald pointed out if this were an attack by a muslim group and a muslim at something like this on his or her website you know the f.b.i. and multiple other groups would be swarming and frankly he's right and you know what i hate to even say this but i'm not surprised that something so biased and so hateful came out of this woman after all she spit that exact same attitude when she was interviewed here on this show. check out this clip our own lauren lyster

questioned her about aline an old atlas shrugged post were geller said that hitler was inspired by islam. hitler was inspired by islam hitler himself said the armenian genocide which was the slaughter of under two million christians by the outer means by by the muslim vampire was his template for the holocaust. yeah so if that wasn't bad enough now she's actually defending the actions of a man who murdered almost one hundred innocent people it's truly hard me to wrap my head around that kind of hate along gellar does so first and i'm right to express her disgusting point of view in her own way we also have a right to fight back against her ignorant rantings and make sure that everyone is aware of what that woman stands for. now as i mentioned earlier in the show part of this debt deal if it goes through was going to lead to the creation of a super committee and then that bipartisan committee will have to decide on one point two trillion dollars in cuts but if they can't agree that's going to unleash

a trigger the cuts one point two trillion dollars half from domestic spending and half from defense so just thought of this is already on lease a way of hysteria from neo cons and war cheerleaders like the heritage foundation and of course senator lindsey graham. like they're going to take a no brother in there and start reducing the defense department we're slowing the growth of the but we're still got massive amount of instead of running toward bankruptcy we're walking toward bankruptcy. but how does throwing members around is ok when it comes to entitlements social programs but not for defense isn't it but in all reality this is kind of a big deal but suddenly defense is being threatened and it may be serious way so do we see this is a real threat or is it just a line intended to keep the military industrial complex going on forever and this guest is a lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow at the center for advanced defense studies and he's also still serving as a bridge served lieutenant colonel so many thanks so much for being here rather

than ok so a lot of this is speculation of course they haven't voted on it yet hopefully we want to you paul this is going to go through and you know you know as well as anyone else that i fundamentally believe that we need to cut defense spending but defense spending does not equal half of our budget exactly so it's kind of a big deal that if this trigger would be unleashed defense spending and investment spending would be treated as a. back to that same thing do you think that's fair why i think it's not practical i don't think it's ever going to happen i think it's a good pick let's be totally honest with each other here they are trying to accomplish this by the twenty third of november and the whole idea is that they will make hard decisions between now and then and i'm going to happen one of the things that's notable is that when you look at the defense budget matter how you feel about it there's a huge process q.t.r. the quadrennial review process the g j roc process which looks that threats versus resources and something called the g eight work up process now i've involve myself

in all of these back when i was inside as a planner these are complex processes which take years to accomplish and no politician is going to do something to make a decision that would cut the budget and so any substantial way even if it's a backstop even if it's arbitrary because no one either side wants to be held accountable for making a bad decision if something goes wrong that's the bottom line so to me this is all just smoke and mirrors no one is going to make it hard decisions so i think on the face of it you and i would agree there's homes and programs for redundancy and effective programs i know of several myself which are totally waste just just people briefing each other and being paid a lot of money to do it i mean literally with that program exists in our government i know about it directly i think all i did was get to it is i'll get a lot of calls probably at the bottom of his will talk about are you going to try to hold your prime and what the bottom line is no one is really going to take a look at those hard decisions there are programs that could be cut you can't do it

in the time period we're talking about ok so then if we're talking about iraq and this is again because let's admit that there are republicans that are behind this suppose that that you know that michael line. so that means that they essentially know it is trigger it would never happen but they're going to bring it down to the wire and they're going to have to make a decision and that's kind of nice isn't it because that's the only way that our politicians function is when they have a deadline. that there is another loophole here with children's talking about a great detail is this concept of emergency spending. they would use a similar thing around this issue they would say was just to begin to burden see here we agreed to this and august but we can't do it now so i think no matter how they put it into writing now you know it's not going to be viable three four or five months from now frankly even if they do look at good hard cuts down the road there's no one there's no guarantees we're going to actually be honored two to three years so it's not as far as i can tell from everything i've read everything i've seen this is just a smokescreen to get us over this local this is one issue the date of

a big potential full time and everything else i believe this to go shabelle and there's no hard stop here it's just it's just smoking off interesting the much an emergency spending because even our war on terror now you can say is ten years old almost i'm sure if i would still be considered an emergency at some point or for some point but like i say you're saying this is all smoke and mirrors go like i mentioned we are here seeing hysteria from people like senator lindsey graham the heritage foundation is already coming out making statements that say the democrats want to favor economic security over national security and how dare they but when these people ever get into the two are intertwined that's right and i think that's the issue here it's all good drama i think much of what we've seen of those sides you know it fundamentally conserve them and conserving my beliefs has been great theater i mean you know we're talking about people who do have a vested interest in both sides neither side is going to go grab hard against the fence and he started going to do a better of against economic issues therefore all they're doing here is once again

kicking the can down the road they're offering up something that they know no one will have the courage to cut one a time comes in november so if you had to think of some kind of let's say you look at real placed full programs how much do you think would be cut from defense let's just say you know hypothetically if this trigger was to say then that would make what about six hundred billion dollars as well come to france then could that. oh would we still survive as a country if we had six hundred billion dollars let me just use afghanistan so it's one of these we've talked about quite a bit i believe if we cut afghanistan by by by half we would be five times more efficient and ten times more effective because you reduce layer. commanding general i once worked for an army was asked a question by the media one time how many people working on the intelligence he said oh about half and that was a true statement i look i mean it's a joke but it's not so good the sad fact is this we have tons of folks over layers upon layers of bureaucracy and none of it adds to effect of this so if we judge

things by effectiveness i think we could safely go through and cut a lot the question becomes does someone have the political will to do that and that's what i don't believe anyone has to support that what are the things we talk about some of the words of are fighting abroad in two way people like newly sworn in secretary of defense leon panetta have considered affective is these air campaigns we have these air here or is and drone strikes because let's face it they're more efficient they probably cost us less money and you don't have to send so many people on to the ground but i thought it was really interesting that the former director of national intelligence dennis blair actually made a statement about this last week where we have a clip of it we can we can say or show you why he was against it we're going to change things like this so the mother of this jordanian doctor who you know blew himself up and killed eight of our people in khost. who says her son did good that's great that's what that's what a good believer should do but that is not we're not going to jail terms drone

strikes you're only going to change that by working with people who believe differently to what you do you agree with with tennis but either i do know it by first off i question why is he saying all this now i mean you know now just a little don't you have to do what he has and he has to resign to me do you think that kind of thing is going to get out of like you have to step down something here and you guys i've actually retired the e-mail. my retirement orders even given to me so it's all upset they are with me right now with that said i always question people i've i started talking about religion before i got out i wonder about what he could have done more to save us now the of the drone program has three props first off it gives the appearance of progress i think it's one of the reasons they're so intimate with it right now secondly it's very expensive and again you get back from it is not worth the expense plus you lose intelligence by killing people and capturing a third and most importantly you create a next generation of people who hate you because more often than not we've had very

bad targeting and more than just the target died and you've now got the problem of the incursion into a friendly country or space with the pakistanis for more or less as they were allies so these are bad three bad things that in my judgment i now currently have blair's outweighs the benefit of the program oh three reasons that to me makes sense as to why we should cut some cut cut some of our defense spending if these programs are so effective or excuse me so expensive and not effective and i don't know maybe cut down on waging war all over the world who don't want to thank you so much for joining us thank you. i don't go anywhere we still have much more freedom to night shout across at ground zero is causing an uproar and creating tension between christians and atheists think of the details and i told time segments and on tap in happy hour a website for men who want to be sugar daddies they're going to tell you what city both the top alcohol abusers in the country forever. get also gives you a story and it seems so full of sleep you think you understand it and then you

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i decide prison i told time award and so night we're giving it to a group of people who absolutely insane over a pox news interview the network is covering the story of a legal battle over a large cross has been placed at a ground zero memorial in new york and here's a little clip of how they started this interview. why in a why is this an issue you know that this cross was found in the rubble at the world trade center was that constructed as across it just sort of appeared that way and became a real source of inspiration for people who desperately needed it at the time and now the group american atheist is suing to stop the cross from being placed of the nine eleven site the spokesman appeared on fox news and gave this reasoning for the lawsuit it boils down to the constitution and what it really boils down to and what we all have ph the demotion in this issue including mood with up in the area and within new york city that paid for this the emotions can trump war. or it's not

simple enough the group is making a valid point there is that whole constitutional issue of separation of church and state then again a lot of people feel inspired by the cross i don't it doesn't bother me to the point of getting really passionate and angry about parenting for a few other people that really did see after blair scott communications director appeared on air he started getting death threats when he returned home after the interview his voicemail was full of hateful messages and he was quoted on the american atheist log saying that you can always tell when somebody from the group is on fox news because in inbox explodes with hate e-mail now over the fox news facebook page irate christians did like the interview either they left behind some really blistering comments and american atheists decided to grab a few screenshots of those comments so we're going to be nice we're in a blur out the names and the faces of the people who left the messages and also do know these messages have a lot of spelling errors so we're not correcting this one guy wrote i say kill them all and let them see for themselves that there is

a got to people like that comment another woman posted here's my solution kill the group just kidding you figure it out i'm so sick of people that pick and choose when they want to truly be american they can go to hell oh wait they will let me just feel the christian love coming from that lady now another young girl that behind two facebook posts she said stupid atheists i hope god kills them all followed by i love jesus and the cross and if you don't i hope somebody rapes you now another guy's post read i thin lee which i'm assuming he meant think so i think we should hang at the leader of that group on a cross with nails through their hands and feet place a crown of thorns on their head ram a spear through their side all of her being a whipped and beaten publicly just so they can endure what christ did so late can understand the sacrifice behind what cross symbolizes it's nineteen people

like that guys post and then what other. fox news your road any quarter lawyer who takes this case should be hung if you look at some of the people who are atheist they're all miserable looking because they don't have any faith and anything you all should go live in another country you have taken enough of my rights away so there you have it this is a few of the vile and hateful messages left behind by christians but you know i don't christians are supposed to be friendly loving caring people now praying that somebody is going to be raped or killed you know what's that old saying hate the sin not the sinner so tonight we're going to give our tool time award to those christian viewers over fox news who left behind those hateful messages there is no better way to get people on your side get non-religious americans to understand what your message is the tell me they should be beaten raped speared and killed.

tired sign for happy hour and joining me this evening as net is nonie roll calls are heard on the hill columnist and christine for south r.t. correspondents ladies thank you so much for joining me tonight thank you ok so we just spent the entire hour talking of course about this debt deal because hopefully you've crossed it looks like we're not going to have to default on our debt but none of this deal actually solves the fact of the economy is still in horrible shape and it probably is only going to get worse and we have some really odd example sanai of what it means when when people are down and out see there's this holding phenomenon of these websites where you can go and get a sugar daddy and here's an interview with one girl who actually went through this experience and then individual who lives in florida i guess we have like an allowance worked out that every day that i see him like we go out we have fun we do stuff you know go to dinner whatever and he gives me essentially a thousand hours a day. are the thing that really got me is that one of these websites claims that

they have eight hundred thousand people signed up and that includes that's not just the girls or the young women or the young men they're looking for sugar mom is a sugar daddy is that everybody combined and yes there are sugar mom is true it's not it's not just men but that's eight hundred thousand people. right it's like you i'm just going to say i don't know to what extent of i don't know how much of a sign of a time this i think it's an honest internet relationship you know if there's no questions about why you're there why the other person bear so i guess that's a good thing but i think that scandals like this have been going on since the dawn of time this is just a new way to you know it is making it easier for eight hundred thousand people to partake of ever to find each other i mean i'm not saying that they are prostitutes but people that go in order to. i'm definitely not saying i was a what do i now but it is kind of the oldest profession is it not i mean this has been happening since forever it's very true will one thing why i think it may be

a sign of the times because for a lot of these kids supposedly they're going on looking for help with their college tuition because as we all know education is so friggin expensive in this country that nobody can afford it anymore but you know for a lot of sugar daddy and sugar all websites out there everybody's interested in just saying. a loan i think the name of them. even better and it's pretty ok there's a new report that came out that apparently do you see a goal to use alcohol more than adults in any other city in this country and at first i didn't believe that at all because in the d.c. isn't really that hard to think of a town it's not like a party place and then we all sat around and thought about it for a while today and then we remembered exactly why this place makes you want to drink to come.

you know sometimes you drink from boredom too not just because it's a party town i don't know calls pretty. but i mean do you see the drinking tap you have to drink that's where people feel that's where you know reporters you know. get sources or at least a ration i mean the debt ceiling can you imagine what's going to happen tomorrow or tonight if they pass or this week once this week so where are they going to you want to be involved for when i first moved here people always said you know d.c. is hollywood for ugly people so let's just think about how much they drink in d.c. i mean in hollywood they probably drink even much more here because they're ugly and they don't have any. i don't know you have to worry about where you're actually about what you're going to look like the next day necessarily your face is what you're going to wherever that is you know where i was you do bring up a good point about the fact that you know it's a drinking town because the networking town and that's why these he's famous is because every single person automatically says what do you do what do you do and so

you always want to go out and drink so that's true too and like more business meetings take place at bars probably here than any other city i think i work otherwise but the other thing is that i think it's interesting that only people with over twenty six like we're the highest drinking around town for people over twenty six so you're like you've lost all hope and you're running out of the i will just drink my way to my middle age but like i think it was new hampshire that has highest over twelve zero so we've got a i mean i guess you don't want to be the highest over twelve abusing state are let's move on to the next one and this is i mean this is a horrible tragic story we've reported on this you hear about it all the time foxconn by the way is one of the biggest manufacturers of electronics around the world this is the run the factories where maybe your i phone or your i pad or things like that get a samples and they've had a spate of suicides are people trying to end their lives because the working conditions there apparently are so brutal and horrible and so apparently they're

coming up with a new way of having to adjust to that they're just going to get rid of people and bring in robots. and this could be their first job away from home but also for most of them these first strong and a growing number of these workers are killing themselves in trying to and folks home doesn't know. ok so they told i told the story and then they repeated the story but foxconn doesn't know why you're a pink bugs condo's alive you were trying to kill themselves i think with eighteen people just last year yeah that's already high number for people working in the fame job that's what this is we have to start putting it in perspective right so it's very nice thank you i like working in america because i know that i have to work in such miserable conditions that i would've wanted and my own life and it's true a lot of these people as they move in from the rural areas in china they have to live in these like horrible camp like conditions that but then at the same time

these are u.s. companies that go abroad and are taking advantage of this now people want to kill themselves and now because there's not enough people they want to be exploited around the world and horrible put up with it there's going to bring in robots and you're just you can't win but i can make you scared about our crowds like what are they going to start bringing robots that are going to come for you we've talked about this on the show about these computer generated pundits and no t.v. that was there to start creating so they already have the popstar it was all computer generated in japan sometimes i feel like they are robots but their responses when they go on and they give like these rehearsed answers no matter what the question i can be robots are but it is really sad i mean the bottom line yes speaking of when they might not need us anymore to do so the one thing they have robots but now there's also a new scandal brewing over him in animal cloning there's one hundred fifty human animal hybrids the regrown and u.k. labs that were just discovered this is right after report told us that basically science and technology are moving so fast that we think this is what the world's going to look like. with no lights here.

i'm kind of excited to see that would you say human animal cloning they do it for you know for a purpose is to try to. cure diseases you don't think like there would be all some . offender no but also you know i think that if you know any scientists they always want to look into it so the fact that we would have this ability and hold back from doing it i wasn't surprised at all that it was going on but the extent to which it was going on and the things they were combining with a little strange yeah that's where we were starting to get a little freaked out as to how far this could go but you know i think we should blame disney too because you had a bunch of kids profile actually movies with talking animals you really really were going to just give it to our girls thank you so much for joining me tonight for tonight so thanks for tuning in and make sure you come back tomorrow and granddads those coming back on the show breakdown working details of that plant in the

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