coming up it's a game of the price is right in florida what's on the market education to be astounded which schools are getting the big bucks which ones are getting squashed after the break. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through and made who can you trust no one who is in view with a global mission would see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. for.

welcome back to the big picture i'm tom arbonne coming up in this half hour florida students study back to school next month they're getting a rather rotten apple cart once of republican governor rick scott details coming up about how he's starving that state's public school system and in light of the unbalanced and billionaire friendly debt deal could be any clearer that america's government is broken inside steely take all explain how thirty years republican ideas got us to this point.

in the best of the rest of the news our public education system is under attack down in florida governor rick scott and his republican cohorts in the state legislature are starving public schools fifty million fifty five million dollars intended to go to the repairing of eighteen public school facilities was instead redirected to exclusively funded for profit charter schools in total about three hundred fifty for profit schools will share the fifty five million dollars leaving over three thousand public schools that desperately need money left holding an end to it not only that president obama's secretary of education arnie duncan just announced forty nine million dollars in federal education grants that will also go exclusively to new york and florida for profit charter schools and president obama's two thousand and twelve budget calls for three hundred seventy two million to go to for profit charter schools all over the nation so here we are outsourcing

the education of our children to corporate c.e.o.'s religious leaders neither of whom care about actually preparing our kids for the jobs of the twenty first century and compete with china but instead only care about profits so this is really the sort of education we should be pursuing in america here offer his take his conservative commentator david sullivan new york city david welcome back if you think it's on thanks for having me and thank you to your viewing audience i got a lot of kinds feedback last time i was on i'll it's nice that you're gung ho in favor of charter schools and you don't want public schools apparently to succeed why do you hate students. well it's not that i hate students but i really am pro the charter school caren's need a reasonable alternative so the some of the insidious consequences of means streaming particularly in the state of florida and new york here in our schools we

have a program that is essentially broke you have children who cannot speak english you have children with severe learning disabilities who are sitting next to an individual who was average or perhaps above average would like to learn but all of the emphasis is being concentrated on this one miscreants you have individuals who are extraordinarily disruptive and parents want an alternative and i have to applaud the president because i usually don't agree with his policies this charter school initiative is spot on but if first of all public schools you know title one and all that public schools actually do have programs separate programs for learning disabled kids i think frankly they should have more programs for gifted kids like they did during the eisenhower years but that's a digression i suppose but was thomas jefferson wrong he said if a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization scuse me expects what never was and never will be

and then he continued to say whenever the people are well informed they can be trusted with their own government that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice they may be relied upon to senate set them right i mean jefferson not only was gung ho for education he on his tombstone he didn't even want it that he was present united states rather he wanted it that he was the founder of the university of virginia as a free school for pretty much anybody who is totally for public schools. if you and i and i have every reason to believe that he would be in favor of these particular charter schools particularly when you look how the public education. system has hijacked the teaching of these children you have young men and women leaving high school who don't understand basic math who have learned think tisha and fallacious history who have been inculcated with various fictions for instance aggrandizing the marginal accomplishments of particular groups and

completely in the collecting the bold individual as some of our founding so you would rather have the david he would rather have for profit charter schools that are teaching our kids that for example the world was created in six days and six thousand years old with federal funds you'd rather have that than have public schools i mean when and also when you know you are arguing the mischaracterization separating out the kids who are doing well from the kids who aren't if you separate those kids out what you're going to do is totally ghettoized the public schools make them even worse the center for reason just to gratian outcomes at stanford university did the most comprehensive study on this if you're familiar with the topic i'm sure you're familiar with the study what they found was that thirty seven percent of charter schools were below public schools forty one percent identical and only seventeen percent of the above we have a two to one ratio of good a bad to good charter schools there's a verbatim quote from there is there is room for improvement and this is the sort

of bold initiative i'm funding that will facilitate that improvement i was given in jos one day three thousand public schools and millions of dollars to three hundred fifty thousand europe rocket schools i mean why should anybody be running a school for profit shouldn't they be running a school for education. oh wait a minute there's plenty of money going to the public schools and i'm not adverse to public schools but this is a great alternative and we really must avoid us taxpayers we really must fund these and i would like to remind your viewing audience the individuals who are carrying on the loudest oppose this are not taxpayers an individual is not a taxpayer if he or she gets back more than they pay in now we tried it but it has failed miserably public schools are the poor of the whole you know let them eat cake private schools that's you know the for progressives schools that's for the rich people so we why we need to take federal money and make sure that those schools are really nice is that is that what you're saying and this sounds like

a subsidy to the wealthy ok. you know tom i think what we have to do is provide opportunity for our young men and women to rise and fulfill their expectations of what they're able to do not fill their heads up with garbage equaling everybody's saying you really can do anything you want and not provide me that i was one of those factors in one nine hundred fifty s. the one nine hundred forty s. the one nine hundred sixty s. where we had public schools and we didn't have private schools outside of basically just catholic schools and we didn't have any threat or funding for those private schools i didn't want to get occasion was working then and in your mind it's not worth of now going to have something to do with the way i will answer your question then it is education secretary and slashing education salut lee not know what has happened is the demographic of the country has changed and the individuals now who are steering the public education ship are moving their agenda and unfortunately their agenda does not accord with reality now if you look back at the fifty's the

sixty's to a lesser extent the seventy's the population was entirely different the values of the country were really on par now it's anything goes and unfortunately if an individual is brought up in that environment they're usually incapable of earning a living even if you simply look at the numbers and the statistics what you will find is that during that period of time we had c.e.o.'s making thirty times what average workers are making now it's five thousand and one we have much more inequality now when you look at any country in the world when inequality gets bad real public education falls apart anyhow david thank you but it's true what how much athletes are paid right thank you for appreciate it as public education falls by the wayside thomas jefferson that guy who wrote the declaration of penance and devoted his life to free public education as a role in his career. it's

the good the bad and the very very vested interest only ugly or good elizabeth warren the consumer rights advocate who built the new consumer financial protection bureau is leaving the agency to clear the way for richard cordray guy nominated to be the first head of the agency by president obama in a farewell note to employees of the c.f. he warned road i leave this agency but not this like the issues we deal with the middle class that has been squeezed the bills that business models built on tricks and traps are deeply personal to me and they always will be you know they should be personal all of us and we need to keep the pressure on congress to make sure republicans can't sabotage warrants creation we also need to keep pressure on and warm yourself you get to run for the senate from massachusetts the bad. steve doocy most of us do find a shared sacrifice as making billionaire hedge fund managers and private jet owners contribute a little bit toward deficit reduction the fox and friends talking head has

a slightly different definition of shared sacrifice and that's making the working poor sacrifice years to see his interview this morning with gene sperling senior white house economics advisor. fifty one percent of the country doesn't pay any federal taxes may be shared sacrifices you make the taxpayer base expanded it. well you know first of all that's that's not true. it's true at all actually one hundred percent of people who work pay federal taxes as in federal payroll taxes. but apparently we do see is saying is you know people have lost their jobs and homes they should be paying higher taxes before one penny is raised on the billionaire koch brothers great job you see sticking to the corporate talking points is so so so cold and the very very ugly asteroid. the right wing is. hate monger and frequent guest on fox so called news took to her blog yesterday to talk about the norway terrorist attacks before committing mass murder anders breivik cited

a dozen times in his cross drenched manifesto written to explain why he did what he did if you just wait a week you could have saved her a thirteenth time inexplicably geller posted a picture of the teenagers at the political youth camp just twenty three taken just twenty four hours before the shooting occurred and she wrote quote note the faces which are more middle eastern and mixed than pure in our region and that's right kelly geller just attempted to justified brother its massacre because there's more brown people in norway taylor has since removed the post from her blog but that doesn't hide the fact that they hate she speeds is very very quickly. after the break what fills the power vacuum and republican shrink the government into its daily take i'll tell you i've collected been asia is giving corporations the keys to the kingdom. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions compelled to break

through get through and if you have made who can you trust no one who is human view you with a global missionary see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question morning.

my take is your chance to send your questions comments ranson observations about anything we talk about here on the big picture or during my radio show and it's my chance to give you my take on it one more time our first comments and i is a message from the viewer rant line on viewer makes an interesting observation that perhaps the republican position during the negotiations on the debt ceiling speaks to the fundamentals of the party's ideology about the role government should play in running this country he would the american people would have learned that when they left the party who sense of they don't believe in government that they were absolute go into government. at the point they run government because they don't believe. you what the republicans would have learned on the september hold in the ninety's under clinton. the old not about those who fail to learn from

history are doomed to repeat it doesn't apply in this country anymore. well doug actually it does apply and i think that you just made that point. kind of backwards but i think you're right and i think that our failure to learn from the lessons of history are playing right into the republican strategy to take this country as far away from traditional democratic values both small d. and large as possible. the the president has been talking as i mentioned in my rant a little bit ago about transitional presidents and compromise and how wonderful and how important all that is i think frankly it's time to return to the core values that this country was founded on and that built this country in the built the the great middle class during the middle part of the twentieth century we've wandered away from those values when we went into greed is good during the first few years of the reagan administration and elevated billionaires to to very high status

people you know starting with reagan's inaugural ball and you know it's i kind of like jimmy carter walk into. any our next comment is also from the rand line this year called to share her outrage about the lack of shared sacrifice from wealthy corporations and the millionaires and billionaires have become the patrons speaking of what today's republican party. focused on the leave it all the way to tax the corporations to the wealthy i'm believable that this country is getting away with the republican sham it's been put upon the country as if you thought we didn't do that a good yet the majority of analysts agreed today that the debt deal struck last night between the white house and the republican leadership was overall a win for the g.o.p. because the republicans achieved drooled goals they voided tax increases and they got a dollar for dollar cut in spending to match the amount by which the debt limit is going to be raised so you know this is a this is a real problem and if president obama was going into this full tilt boogie gung ho

as as jane hand jane hamsher is suggesting then i think all of us need to take a serious look at what's going on here and ask ourselves what what is what what what differentiates the parties anymore what does the democratic party stand for and if it doesn't stand for social security and medicare for example what does it stand for. and our last comments tonight is from the message board over at tom hartman dot com of all this is often said that a person and a political party's ideology stems from their perspective on the world depends on whether you view the world through a me window as in what's in it for me or how i benefit the situation or whether you view the world through a wee window as in how will the situation impact the greater good and this fear asks what's what is it in us that makes us one way or the other our from conditioning it seems is the distinction between selfishness and sharing between

caring for all the people as opposed to caring for only a few between empathy and cold indifference for the needy among us it's like the story of the good samaritan what is it that makes one behave in such a way contrary to the group to me it's what defines what has been historically democratic and today progressive and i think the poster actually meant the democratic to be a capital d. but in any case america was founded as a we society were nation of darn builders i know daniel boone is the great icon you know the guy who just puts on his coonskin cap and takes his rifle and goes out into the wilderness but even daniel boone. haddock had a community even daniel boone was educated even you know even the great rugged individualists have been part of our society humans are social animals and the idea that we're a nice society and that's the way it should be and that we're not a we society and we've never been is just wrong as as as humans as mammals as you know fellow citizens of planet earth we have all always been we societies every

human civilization that has ever succeeded and all the way back to tribal times has always been based on a core concept of we're all in this together and now that we're all in it together at all at the global level with things like global climate change we really need to be considering that we're all in it together that we society and dump this crazy libertarian whack a doodle notion of oh it's just me and my and that's it it's just doesn't work then look for your take my take tonight if you'd like your comments and questions heard on this segment of the big picture listen up we want to know your to send us your comments by visiting the tom hartman facebook page by a twitter at tom underscore harshman for in the chat room on the message boards or through the blog at tom hartman dot com you can also leave a message on our rant line at two to five three six fifty three zero six agree

disagree sound off it's all welcome but remember that your comments may be used on the air. you know nature hates vacuums and so does government republicans appear to have won the debt limit debate successfully getting trillions of dollars in spending cuts and bringing us all closer to their vision of a miniature sized pocket government but one thing everyone seems to forget is that as government power shrinks something else has to fill that power vacuum. and that something is always historically been the or has always been historically the power of either great wealth or corporations since the birth of our nation corporations it's obert of the idea of replacing government they were hungry for the billions they could skim off the top of privatized social security or the money they can make from medicare or the massive profits they can make if they don't have to fall

or pollution limits anymore and in one nine hundred eighty these power thirsty corporations backed ronald reagan and set out to smear the good name of government they figured if they could just get the american people to buy into the idea that government was broken and ineffective and they couldn't we deliver we had a power and faced and today many americans have also bought into this idea and surprise that corporations are moving in today far too many of us see this theater of ineptitude on capitol hill and think the government has never worked and never will and therefore we should starve the government and scrap it altogether and it's not just what's going on in congress it's what's going on everywhere failing public schools the debt ridden united states postal service your bankrupt amtrak bailed regulators and wall street incompetent oversight of oil rigs mismanaged disaster relief black hole pentagon spending soaring medicare prices we

see government programs failing all around us and nobody trumpets these failures like the republican party whose members can barely spit of five words without pointing out a government program they've broken so badly that it's no longer working that's why people hang teabags in the tri corner hats and scream about government why droves of young people flock behind ron paul or lap up every word about dismantling federal departments and that's why the frame of debate in america has shifted from what should we be spending money on to what should we be spending less money. that's why this debt limit deal is all spending cuts because cuts are good for the economy but because we've all bought into the same idea it's strange notion that government not only doesn't work but can't ever work and it's the wrong idea it's not even the idea that this country was founded on the truth is it's not government

that doesn't work it's when republicans run government that it doesn't work i had historian thomas frank on my show recently talk about republican run government here's what he had to say. cynicism pays massive dividends to conservatives and what's creepy about this is that it's sort of self-fulfilling so conservatives tend to deal in very bad government the the they govern very poorly there's one line from the wrecking crew that i always like to repeat because it can never get out there enough and it's from a it's from a guy who was the president of the u.s. chamber of commerce back in one thousand nine hundred eighty s. and he said in an interview that i found in a very popular magazine from the late one nine hundred twenty s. the best public servant is the worst one nobody's ever said it quite that bluntly since said that you can find echoes and i do in the book i find appose of this remark right up to the present day i mean conservatives say this sort of thing all the time you don't want competent people in government you don't want because if

you if government works if you have smart people in government people who know what they're doing and government works for the public will trust government then you know you won't have the cynicism you won't you know things things will work and then you have the democrats will be looked at you know that it's there if people find out the government programs work the democrats will get elected so for the last thirty years since reagan republicans have been busy running government. good name right into the ground irene inept bureaucrats corporate cronies to get its people the government can't do its job and give the republican party exactly what it needs to keep getting reelected a platform of government doesn't work. so they can defund government and replace function functions like social security with their buddies on wall street but it wasn't always like this republican president dwight eisenhower presided over a time in america when government programs worked and as he told his brother in a letter in one thousand fifty four should any political party attempt to abolish

social security unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs you would not hear that party again in our political history there is a tiny splinter group of course that believes you can do these things a few texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas but their number is negligible and they are stupid eisenhower a new government worked and that enrich the lives of everyone in america and that anyone who wanted to get rid of it was just plain stupid but after thirty years of bad government courtesy of the modern republican party we've all grown stupid even president obama was just barely twenty years old when ronald reagan in the white house can't remember the days when government worked and the american people would revolt against those who were trying to dismantle it that's probably why he's gone along with the tea party nearly every step of the way bowing to their demands rather than just calling them stupid like eisenhower did but the tea party and ron paul fanatics fail to understand. is that is the government is the only thing that

stands in the way of corporate power what do you walk into when you and your doctor to paraphrase the eternal question for the health care debate the government you can petition and elect your intellect or a for profit health insurance corporation whose c.e.o. will have you arrested if you try to visit his office to talk with what you want keeping an eye on our environment and government scientists working for you or exxon mobil's lobbyists working for them. the reason why republicans won this debt limit debate is the same reason they've won nearly every single economics debate in the last thirty years in america and that reason is we've all forgotten the america of the middle twentieth century a time when government actually worked and if we don't remember it soon if the tea party zombies and ron paul worshippers don't wake up from this collective amnesia and the corporations will take full control of america it i can promise you

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