but in a lot of show we look at the real headlines with none of them or see if you live in washington d.c. now and i will speak with anthony randolph the about the new debt deal and how it might do everything except what the american people need like create jobs first and we'll speak to david sirota and we'll ask who we should really be angry with washington is going to tell you that there are gridlock is real but it's not wrong that our political parties are a little too much the same and then what do you know a u.n.

report shows that the weapons that were given to african troops to fight the al-shabaab in somalia they're just ending up in the hands of al shabaab so how does not kind of thing happen before we have all that and more for you tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to. all right so the debt deal is done to need to know voted on passed that we're not going to default but on bad news right good news because of the time being we'll be defaulting on our debts and investors fleeing because the markets and the economy to crash in general all of the markets aren't doing so good right now also bad news because of course of the deal that was made it order for the debt ceiling to be raised is going to conway prosperity which is going to include intitled of the social programs you know schools clean water initiatives a little things that affect a lot of americans now like we discussed yesterday big picture this is going to change some things it's going to hurt and it's not going to create any more jobs in

the meantime like we discussed yesterday with drank this deal has left the average american is the one who loses out while congress only pigs about itself and part of the problem here is that congress is allowed to keep covering only its own back and distracting everybody from the real world of back to their actions because the mainstream media who's supposed to be calling them out is instead just doing all of that distracting boredom and focusing on the insider baseball pitchers are not just the democratic party inversion of all of that on their own leadership and they effectively won that vast majority of what the tea party members made their point we're having exactly the conversation that they wanted us to have democrats come out of this looking marginally better only because he appeared to be more adult like what's the justification for a republican voting no on this still in the house of representatives even. and you wonder why so few people actually watch t.v. to try to get their news anymore because what they talk about doesn't apply to you into i think there's

a very tiny percentage of people in this country that actually care about that collective ego stroking that goes on in washington d.c. and a little bit in new york and those people are the ones whose egos need to be stroked aka politicians and your so-called media stars and you know it continues to baffle me that these people get sky high paid. they just talk about themselves their friends on wall street their friends on k. street in the capital and of course more about themselves if you want to sit around and talk about what brilliant strategize there is the tea party of the republicans were well go ahead but guess what a new poll out today tells you the majority of americans just don't give a damn this is their lives their families their homes their future that's all being put on the line because the spoiled children call themselves allegations and yes i use the words spoiled children because that's exactly what the c.n.n. o.r.c. poll found people wanted to describe them as seventy seven percent said the officials who have dealt with the debt ceiling have acted like spoiled children and

they're right they are spoiled because even more of the congress stalls and waits until the last minute to come up with a deal and more self-important they become the more lobbyists throw themselves out that there's groups on either side of the debate of course start to panic so keeping all of that mind let's now think about what is that feel has done it's created a congressional supercommittee that's going to elevate twelve members of congress to a super status to make them super important and leave the fate of one point two trillion minimum dollars of spending in their hands so when you have a super committee yes wealthy create super lobbyists the wall twelve members of congress sit around thinking of how to cut one point two trillion dollars from programs that you probably use that maybe you need desperately lobbyist if you're spending millions of dollars to tell them what to cut so then all of the real money stays right here in this little bubble you call washington d.c. and the egos of these numbers of congress only continue to grow the more they're coaxed by lobbyists and given backroom deals for when they leave office or for

their children and their wives to get nice cushy jobs. and that's what's really going on that's what the strategizing is that should worry americans the proves how little their word matters to their elected representatives that's of the mainstream media knows is going on but that's what that means free media elite is happy to miss when it comes to foreign. so congress is giving itself a collective a pat on the back for averting a crisis if they themselves manufactured at the end of the day the crisis that the economy is in continues to go on economists agree that this deal will not create jobs it won't spur hiring won't bring in any new revenues so who exactly thanks for that is a good idea to discuss this with me as anthony ran down the director of economic research for the reason foundation anthony thanks for joining us tonight absolutely don't tell me you think the thing the good idea that certainly or do ok baby let's

talk about why it's so terrible first off you to define success here you see what you want and no one is actually trying to create jobs of this bill never it was an attempt at some kind of stimulative effort and actually i would disagree with the last thing you said there is two point eight trillion dollars in revenues that come out of this and that's the end of the bush tax cuts of two thousand and thirteen this entire debt ceiling deal is essentially an analysis of projected spending over the next ten years so we're going to cut two point four trillion dollars but it's over but it's out of the ten trillion dollars we're going to spend above the certain of what we're at right now over the next ten years another becomes like seven trillion dollars but that actually anticipates taxes going up two point eight trillion dollars and she doesn't thirteenth so there are some revenues here but i think where there is no votes when we get to two thousand and thirteen it. is just the debate is going to start all over again when it comes to extending tax cuts after that remain past the two thousand and twelve election who knows it might be republican it might be obama again he caved on the tax cuts when times are you know

what is he going to do again. on the debt ceiling if you sat up again this right right on this that we really just what this is this entire deals more or less a watch all of the cuts they come after the next two fiscal years of the nine hundred or so billion dollars that's guaranteed to be cut out of this on the seven percent of it is cup over the next two years so it's not actually hitting a lot of government spending in two thousand and twelve and two thousand and thirteen most of that money is back loaded into the into basically two thousand and eighteen or two thousand and twenty which you know who who knows was going to happen around that but the that's that's part of the news you didn't see of course here is that most of these i don't have to do anything over the next couple years it doesn't create any jobs and it's not going to cause there to be a loss of jobs it's more or less the debt ceiling went up and we go along our happy merry way nothing changed ok but i would say that we are happy and that we're mary right now because look at look at the state of the economy is and right look at the rate of unemployment which is that one point two percent consumer spending is going down or what's going on with lost me right now they were just talking about this

before the show they are relatively quiet during this entire debt ceiling debate for months actually and then suddenly now they're freaking out now that sign will be the nice thing about being done with this great at least for now at least you have the super progress issue which is going to be talked about tonight is that we can actually look at what's going on the economy and the economy is not a good place one of the reasons that wall street lost a lot today is because of really bad manufacturing data if you look at unemployment no plummet numbers they've been trending really bad for a while and we've got them coming on a friday things are not looking good for the new unemployment numbers this month and we had the economy come in g.d.p. at one point three percent for the second quarter the first quarter was downgraded to zero point four percent those projections of negative growth next year in terms of g.d.p. it seems like that recovery that we thought was going on turns into a call before a folk it's not a jobless recovery it's a recovery of this recovery at this point and so at least we can hopefully you know higher sense up and say now let's look at the economy. think we can both we can

both agree that that's not really going to happen i don't think that's going to go then it's in theory what should happen that's the nice thing about being done with it that's what the president to essentially said today to you and he decided to give a speech and then i'm going to be about how we can look forward and focus on the future but what makes congress think that they could even ignore the economy for this long it's mind numbing because you know we've got the two thousand and twelve fiscal year budget which wasn't put together through this which starts in at the end of september and we're not going to be able to put together a budget through there which means we'll have done three years without a budget in washington we're not talking about long term overall spending priorities or reforming the tax code or how we want to fix the housing problem in america because you housing is continuing without banks it is continuing down consumers people can't sell their homes so they can't move to get a job people have a lot of housing debt on top of them banks have housing debt which is keeping them from owning the small businesses those are some core issues that need to get worked

out and it's it's going to be a continued to be a long sort of long road ahead on these things there's not a lot sort of bright lights ahead there are a few things that congress can do we might disagree about those are we privatise to disagree on what those are but the thing is too is you know one of the consequence you can make of our political system is that congress is never focusing on the problems that we have right now because they're always campaigning for the next election i just don't understand how anybody who's in congress right now anybody who's in the white house right now thinks they can possibly get reelected when what americans care about is the economy is about jobs and they very blatantly ignoring all of that so that doesn't even seem to make any sense in the always campaigning for the next election and i just read this this entire i think we've talked about this before this whole debt thing is all just setting up two thousand and twelve we could have done this exact you know months ago we had all the pieces in place we didn't need to talk and fight for months to get right down to the day it was pushed all the way down to the day because the part of the white house wanted to set itself up the best way for two thousand and twelve the republicans wanted to set

themselves up with us where they could for two thousand and twelve the democrats in congress the same way this. entire thing has been one big campaign thing and there is a lot of legitimacy to the idea just throw all the bums out we think about this super committee as i mentioned first of all for starters how much money do you think is going to be flying around now when it comes to lobbyists because now there are going to be twelve super special very important members of congress that are going to be on the committee and everyone's going to be trying to be in their pocket for their faces a deal wasn't even signed by the president before all of the talk one of those high powered lobbyists on k. street senate e-mails some of his colleagues already calling these guys doesn't like they're there already it's already just a foregone conclusion that the amount of money that's going to be thrown at these guys is going to be astronomical now they are going to be the only ones making the decisions and they are going to be making the final votes that's the sort of six people twelve people in the room service on the side who have discussions that go back to the parties we'll see what you say will determine but there is going to be a lot of money thrown at these guys really when was the last time

a presidential commission did much of anything at all how about the whole we have to go to a job you should want to do and we haven't a commission right we had a plan that was put forward and you know what this in some bills plan it wasn't perfect i don't like everything and you didn't like everything in it but you know almost everybody across the spectrum said you know this is actually a place that we can start but here's the thing we had that plan even if it had been put to a vote in congress that there wasn't going to be a legitimate discussions going to have are both sides were going to vote and pass that specific bill even if you know even when you have a committee that works that actually comes up with something that once it goes to actually be voted on you still have the bickering and i just wonder do we really want but they come up with because on one hand you have to ask is congress smart and they just you know like i mentioned they're always using all these distraction techniques so they can collect all the money at the end of the day do everything as one party even though they're pretending like they're two separate party think no they're in my opinion definitely only favoring corporate interests and not the interests of average americans or should this be should these people not be making

economic policy i don't know should i try. congress members who maybe get a media training class but never an accounting class trust them to be making huge deals about where the u.s. economy is going to go in ten twenty years probably the biggest complicating factor is like who do you want to put in that committee because you put me on a committee i've got an economic background i've got all kinds of ideas of what's going to be cut you probably are going to like every year i pull out all your idea larry do you trust me i mean who are you going to trust you only one of the people that you have like might in this making those decisions i only want the people making those decisions that i have like minded within this and when you talk about the collectiveness of the american people as a whole there's not just this unifying belief where there's all the business is on one side and three hundred million u.s. citizens on the other side a lot of those corporations they actually have these people we call americans working for them so there you can't necessarily even separate corporate interests from individual interests it is all one this this sort of tied together this is this is a massive problem of large government trying to make these sorts of big deals it's

inherently problematic or maybe it's too few people that make it is asians or you have you know too few representatives and maybe you should be a direct democracy i think we're actually going to get was that you know in our neck and our necks in riyadh and i thank you so much for joining us absolutely. are you coming out tonight and show the love to save the taxes are too high for corporations here in the u.s. but we have quite a few takers to prove them wrong just a moment and the same media claims that washington is too divided government is not really the case going to that topic author and radio host david serota. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you give them something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry there's a big. and

you know i. feel for folks for the. lead. let's not forget that we live in apartheid right leg i think

either one is well. we never got to look as they're going to keep him safe get ready because of their freedom. all right so now the president has signed the debt deal take a look at how it is that we got to this point which is being heavily in debt and choosing to cut government services and the government obviously spends money on medicare medicaid defense department education the environment safety net programs and of course paying interest on our national debt which by the way is only at six

percent of that entire equation now all of this is supposed to be paid for the revenue that comes from taxes of course not just personal income taxes but corporate taxes as well those same of corporate taxes that are full of loopholes right subsidies being good at the end of the day and not to them being away will be able to get away with paying almost nothing and that's something that right wingers of course being that leader not because on the books they're always crying about how the us has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. u.s. corporations overall place an average combined tax of about thirty nine percent that is the second highest rate among all industrialized countries it is just behind the tax rate in japan a grouping of thirty major market economies known as the oh you see you do which includes all the europeans did a study of what the most counterproductive tax had been in all those nations you know i did approach the corporate income tax as the most harmful for long term growth. all right so if companies actually paid their taxes then maybe those

guys would have point but unfortunately they don't and we've covered it before on the ship but let us give you some more details that come straight from the government's accounting books this is just the stuff that they really like to publicize the government accountability office says that fifty seven percent of u.s. companies conducting business here in the u.s. paid no federal income taxes for at least one year between one thousand nine hundred eighty and two thousand and five that means that over half of america's business is paid zip zilch zero dollars oncle sam now you probably already heard about g.e. not paying any taxes in two thousand and ten we reported to you here but take a look at these other companies who also managed to keep their profits away from the government citi group bank of america valero all of those are also among the top corporations but didn't pay a dime and why of course because of all those complex loopholes in our complicated tax laws that's right all these major companies are actually structured how their

business is run based on how they can get away without paying a penny more than they have to now about of course the highly skilled lawyers who know all the complexities in the minute details and then today these companies who boast billions in profits are paying money to our federal government now we should note that there are other ways to avoid paying corporate federal taxes things like hosting overseas tax havens and in fact eighty three percent of the largest companies in america are called those overseas overseas tax agents yet another way to bend the laws and keep. dollars in their big old money vault so with more clear evidence their complicated tax law is helping our debt grow and grow the prostration obviously turns to washington the politicians who left any changes to our absurd tax code out of this new debt bill and if they couldn't or chose not to slip changes that are the biggest financial restructuring of the us in years well then i don't know when they will corporations will continue to get away with murder they're not paying their fair share yet the middle class americans who can't afford

lawyers to find every single loophole in the system they are and this seems like it's going to be the norm for years to come a very sad reality. now even though the u.s. is long been involved in secret in somalia recently we've seen bits of that involved become more public from a drone strike weeks ago into a somali prisoner who was held on a navy vessel to be interrogated and will now be tried in federal court in new york are jeremy scahill of the nation detailing the cia's secret sites in mogadishu now thanks to robert young pelton at the somalia reports and a little help from david x. it wired stranger or we have even more information that's coming out it turns out that buried deep in the u.n. reports there is evidence that half of all u.s. supplied weapons do you gone down and burundian soldiers who belong in the african union peacekeeping force and are supposed to be by the way of fighting al shabaab and you could say for us as a proxy it turns out that half of those weapons are ending up right in the hands of

. this story found sounds familiar kind of because it is it's happened numerous times before if you want to talk about afghanistan if you want to talk about mexico and believe me that list goes on and on so why can't we learn from our own history and what exactly does that say for the wars that we might be arming in the future pretty soon we're going to speak with scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine we're still waiting for him to get on the line but just think about how many times this is happened in the u.s. and you could say that happens from both perspectives either we involve ourselves into a civil war or we could say to make a proxy war we have somebody else fight it for us or maybe just start arming people like i don't know the mujahideen in afghanistan that one point we thought would be on our time would be on our side ok we're actually not going to have scott right now so we're going to move on to our next story but we're going to get back to that

in just a moment. now as we've watched the debate over the debt ceiling unfold over the last few months the mainstream media politicians from both parties there are going to tell you that washington is incredibly polarized right now and that's why it's so hard to get legislation through but if you don't listen to what they say to distract you look at all the facts well that doesn't really seem to be the problem not only do we always see a bipartisan consensus when it comes to passing new funding for wars abroad or for expanding surveillance on american citizens all in the name of national security now we see it in continuation of corporate tax loopholes tax breaks for the wealthy it's all social programs are put on the chopping block it seems like at the end of the day there's a lot the two parties can agree on but more and more their actions just don't align with the interests of their constituents so a lot of americans are wondering if it's time for a third party and that includes pundits and politicians people like thomas friedman and michael bloomberg but how many third parties already exist and what kind of restructuring would it take for them to gain national attention if they don't play ball the special interests the way the republicans and the democrats both view

joining me to discuss this is david sirota talk radio host and author of the book back to our future how the one nine hundred eighty s. explain the world that we live in now david thanks so much for joining us again tonight now first starters that would you say that congress really is very very polarized the way they like to claim that they are they just fabricate this entire crisis. no i think that congress is actually one of the most trans partisan we're in an era of bipartisanship really trans partisanship and i think that the good negotiation deal shows that there's a lot of rhetoric about partisan politics and partisanship but when you actually look at what happens in congress when you actually look at the votes the votes often end up being very bipartisan affairs as i said the debt ceiling negotiation a good example it passed with bipartisan support there was a lot of rhetoric about it being only a republican priority to have the democratic party voted for that you look at our

worst congresses barely spoken up about even authorizing political war congresses passing bills to escalate the afghanistan war on a bipartisan basis you look at civil liberties the patriot act you look at budgets it's the same thing down the line but i think there's too much a trans partisanship in washington there's a lot of partisan rhetoric but when you actually look at what happens in congress both parties often are colluding against the rest of us and i'm totally with you there but what do you say for you know for the tea party do you think there are other alternatives out there something pushing a fringe because we've heard we've seen a lot of fingers pointed at the tea party a lot of people are saying that oh well these lunatics are now holding the entire debt ceiling ha ha stage but we see anything comparable on the left side why don't we see a progressive fringe party that's going to make democrats return to you know things like you and i would believe well i think you have seen that in some states new york connecticut vermont these are states that actually have viable third parties

in vermont the progressive party they played a key role in passing a single payer universal health care there in new york in connecticut it's called the working families party at the national level i think you're right to ask the question and i think the answer is that the national democratic party is often as in cahoots with big money as the republican party i wrote my my in. first because hostile takeover really we have we do have two parties in this country at the national level it's the money party and the people party the money party is most of the republican party including the tea party and about half the democratic party and the people party is about the other remaining half of the democratic party again i go back to the get negotiation vote after democrats joined with republicans to pass that that was a classic money party versus people party affair same thing with the bank bailouts on issues especially of economics on issues of economics that deal with money we have a two party system the problem is that the people party is really only

a tiny fraction of that system but do you think so. we talk about how much money is being thrown around at these people do you think a part of that is just bound to happen when you have a representative democracy when you have a group of only you know five hundred or so people who are all gathered together here in washington d.c. and this is where all the money is thrown up and. i certainly think that the the the way we fund elections especially at the national level is a huge part of history you cannot expect a system to be even the least small the democratic when you have a structured system of legalized bribery to get people into office i think few representatives and there are a few of them that are very good if you representative to try to represent something different than big money the exception and not the rule because the rule is basically you have to raise a lot of corporate money to get elected to federal office and this is also the case

in state legislatures a little less the case but certainly in washington you have what f.d.r. it was called organized money and we have a new politics of organized money and their politics is not democratic or republican it's trans partisan right so that's the kind of systemic issue can you think of anyone or any other country that has a better. well look i think that other countries other european countries for instance they finance their elections with public financing of elections or proxy public financing of elections to take a parliamentary system opens up the possibilities of smaller parties and coalition governments come to some problems that comes with some some good parts i think we need to be looking at both campaign finance reform in this country and also basic electoral reform that makes it a little easier for third parties to run we have those in some states as i mentioned new york and connecticut they have special election laws that make it easier for smaller parties to get on the ballot i think we need to be looking at that and we need to looking as i said public financing of elections or at least

partial public financing of elections and i should add one of the thing these are not radical ideas if they're operating in some states they could be operating at the national level is just a matter of will do you think but let's say the majority of the american people right because if we go back to this issue that supposedly congress is in gridlock when it comes to that that's a bait and because of the money they're no longer representing the people's interests should there be things like national referendums. you know i i think a national referendum system is an interesting idea i certainly think that it can work at the state level i'm talking to you from colorado which has one of the easiest ballot access ballots in the country to get a ballot measure a referendum on the ballot that has been good in some ways it's cause other problems because the threshold has been so low you get very very extreme measures on the ballot that can change things in ways that are not predictable i do think that any efforts discussed making the system more accessible to regular people and creating more pressure from regular people on an institution that is clearly

insulated and working in so many different ways against regular people what is a good discussion to have a problem is if you use the key problem is that the people who were elected to office whose complicity you need even to have that discussion are the masters of the existing system and are going to be the ones most hostile to any kind of discussion much less change our game and i thank you so much for joining us tonight so should we need some new masters some people that are actually represent us in that case thanks so much thank you. now in return we have argued a vision of show and tell and in recent weeks we've learned about secret u.s. military operations in somalia is not going to talk about the fact that half of the weapons that we supplied are foreign peacekeeping troops and after they have lost scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine. internal are there with the mechanisms.