if you don't come to bring justice or accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. get on sometimes you see a story and it seems so sorely sleep you think you understand it and then he glimpse something else you hear sees some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm trying hard welcome to the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here.

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all right guys it's time for show and tell now last hour we explained how norway and the u.s. deal with crime and punishment but despite the differences we want to know which prison system that you thought was more effective the one in america or the one in norway so it's going to producer for treason to send you to find out where you had to say. welcome to the international travel wards for the best prison in the world now well last year italy won the four star fashion award for designer suits this year's winner is norway. real five stars by frequent guest for an all inclusive modern fitness facility recording studio private fast and complimentary meals i guess this. is the only thing wrong told by american standards is only twenty percent of the guests

come back now the winner of this year's worst person system as rated by guest is the same as last year's and the year before that the united states. it's rated at one house of a burned out star football overcrowding noise violence and gas complaining about the shared showers except for some reason sixty percent of all guests were term for a future visit so go figure that's why we asked our viewers which person system you thought was more effective is it norway or the u.s. dream coyote said norway provides both a social safety net and incarceration that tries to rehabilitate and the u.s. prisons are considered successful if they keep everyone it had a boy agrees he said nothing is as dysfunctional as a u.s. prison then they could be told does mix in the overcrowding and. u.s.

prisons are a classroom for learning crime and norway wins hands down keep on the other hand has no compassion for inmates we have dilatation he says is a total crock the idea of prison is can came in and punishment is not meant to be a holiday camp that may be true keith but thank doesn't mean that it works if there's one thing the u.s. is good at it's making prisoners the u.s. actually leads the world in if it's one segment of the global competition that i'll even china can take away from us and the proof is more prisoners are returned to the us prison system over and over again and it's not because of the highly recommended accommodations it's our guys thanks for giving us your input and here's our next question for you the debt deal has been reached the president has signed it the default crisis was averted but let's face it if this really has to be a crisis let us know you think did congress actually fabricate this debt crisis you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you tube and knows your responses just

like making money. now we discuss police brutality incidents on the regular basis here on this show but this next story we're about to share is absolutely horrendous on july sixth police responded to a call that a homeless man was vandalizing cars when he attempted to search thirty seven year old kelly thomas he resisted and that's when this incident got violent several fullerton cops began to kick and beat thomas who has schizophrenia and then proceeded to harp tie him and then tase him six times ultimately putting the homeless man into a coma a new video has been released for bystanders were telling orange county bus driver about what they had witnessed.

but not surveillance video was taken at right after thomas was taken to the hospital when he arrived he was already in a coma i never regained consciousness sammy took him off of life support just a few days later and the outcry over this tragic case of police brutality is growing more and more people hear and see the way the cops treated the schizo frantic man and i say and i'll cry is in order take a look at thomas' face before and after he was brutally beaten it is so gruesome that it's truly impossible for me to understand how police people who are paid like people like you and i to protect could do something like that who reports say the

f.b.i. is investigating this incident but as of right now just one of the officers has been put on administrative leave not even fired just put on leave and get this the fullerton police department says that the public outcry over this incident has affected officers more out overly it's affected police more al i think it's a small price to pay for the way to kelly thomas died his own father is a retired orange county sheriff's deputy and he's described his son's death as a gang style cold blooded aggravated murder who in their right mind thinks that a one hundred thirty five pound man can survive being brutally beaten kates hogtied and then tase six times and for what because thomas resisted arrest all those officers could have chosen no more civil approach something like simply holding him down placing handcuffs on him if they kill in the line of duty where no such moves were necessary and that makes them murderers thomas' mentally ill police officer should be sure. rein to handle people that have problems like schizophrenia who may

be erratic who may be unstable but these people are professionals they are paid for by the american taxpayer but instead these cops acted like probably on a power trip wanting to make sure that this homeless man learned a lesson unlike what happened they killed and they should be held responsible just like you were i would if we were to be demanded that this is the one of the most disgusting cases of police brutality that we've reported on this show by far and if the f.b.i. the out there already don't find those cops criminally responsible for thomas' death i think it's safe to say there isn't much hope for law enforcement in our society. back to our interview that was interrupted earlier on somalia we learned much about u.s. involved in recent weeks but now thanks to robert young pelton of a small he reports and david axelrod's danger real when even more information turns out that buried deep in u.n. reports is evidence that half of all u.s. supplied weapons to ugandan and burundian soldiers who belong to the african union

peacekeeping force that are supposed to be fighting al shabaab turns out that have those weapons are ending up right in the hands of al shabaab and it's a familiar sounding story because it is it's happened numerous times before so you have to wonder why we can't learn from our own history what it says for the wars that we might be arming in the future joining me to discuss this is scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harvest magazine scott thanks for joining us tonight we finally got got you on the screen there now am i right or am i right this is a familiar story how many times could you say that it's happened before. constantly i mean with scott so back to the whole crisis in afghanistan actually both in the soviet air and then later with the american invasion the american support of. these there was a cry that permitted disclosure of weapons into that country the extent of it was to think back or so to the beginning of the conflict in libya just a few months ago where are people especially the zero korans in washington were

arguing that we should turn over weapons but i think what you see here in this report is the problem. with that in a situation as violent as challenge this this is in somalia if you pump weapons into it it's very difficult to control where those weapons will go and in this case we see the ugandan them the soldiers especially the ugandans who are themselves of poverty or simply selling the guns for money so the weapons turn up in the hands of terrorists adversary. now scott you know what do you know exactly to when it comes to how much finding how many weapons and might be giving to these ugandan and who are indian troops in his report that between two thousand and seven and two thousand and nine there is about two hundred million dollars going into this but considering the now we've have this laser light focus on our shabaab in somalia do you think if those numbers probably have shot up oh no

doubt about it and no doubt but in somalia today we're fighting a proxy war so the united states is providing support intelligence but also weapons to various proxies and that's included these ugandan. troops which also included ethiopians kenyans and various tribal groups within some are you leading the so-called government of somalia which controls a couple of square miles of downtown mogadishu and the really frustrating thing of course about this is that this information can be found and a u.n. report but it's buried somewhere deep they never want this type of information to come out or to surface or to be made public to the public who is taxpayer dollars are going to find it so if you think that we're ever going to learn our lesson are we just going to keep fighting proxy wars key arming people one of the end of the day we don't know where those weapons will end up. well i think that that's

a big issue and it's particularly an issue where we're fighting proxy wars everywhere and where we're using not professional uniformed soldiers but using contractors and i think we see in iraq right now the sunsetting of the american force may be coming to an end by the end of this year maybe not but we see the state department's plan to deploy a contractor army there we're going to see a drawdown of american forces in afghanistan but that replaced with contractors as well so i think we're going to see these the same problems repeated over and over again around the world. and questionable oversight i don't think so we see a little evidence of that. once i think you're right is that we don't see many legal repercussions or at least we have seen sound when it comes to trying to go after the blackwater although many of those efforts legally have not been successful at thus far but you mentioned iraq admiral mullen actually said this

week of course that he's waiting for iraq to give the u.s. an answer as to whether or not they want troops to stay there past the deadline but he also said that if they say they want in unity for the troops is that something that we that we have to do all the time is that why it's much easier to have proxies fight the war if they don't have to worry about legal woes when it comes to your own troops. it's going to be a difficult issue in iraq because of the experience with iraq what about here we've got to differentiate so it's conventional that there's a status of forces agreement that provides a unity that is that if it says that american soldiers will be dealt with under the american military justice system that's a system we haven't place with germany italy spain japan for instance nothing unusual about that the really difficult area here is going to be when it comes to those contractors when it comes to the black waters and the others because they have not been dealt with under the american military justice system they haven't

been dealt with under the american criminal law either with only ample of cases where the justice department under tremendous pressure has brought cases and then those it with respect to those individuals there's a strong presence side of iraq for the iraqi criminal justice system to be applied and if they shoot up a village for them to be prosecuted for it that's going to be the friction point and i think we saw admiral mullen very cautiously putting out the question of a status of forces agreement but the bigger question in the end of the day is going to be about these contractors now if you had to take a guess and i mean time i guess although if we want contractors to say that we can get around iraq saying out of the troops do you think that iraq is going to ask for about ten thousand troops to stay. my bet is yes the iraqis will sit at the limit is it he's trying to force this question i think quite properly because the american military needs to plan here to the limit is that it's not

a popular thing in iraq today to call for the americans to stay packed our night raids have been extremely unpopular with the iraqis there's a large majority of iraqis who would like to see the u.s. out but the political leadership of the country feels that they need american soldiers to tide them over certainly at least for another couple of years so i think in the end that they were going to see that core. all right scott i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and troops to stay in iraq proxy wars a lot going on that americans need now about great to be with you thanks. are coming out around the hold don't say gave bill from tennessee back and it actually earned the politician tonight full time award at a happy hour tonight a t.v. station in chicago probably that affleck less than plus a new game which is twitter account is full of hate all over it going back and.

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't charge is a big. and yet. first.

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are to cyprus and i told so i'm a warden tonight it goes to the governor of tennessee republican bill has fallen now he took office at the start of last year or of the year excuse me and he's had to deal with several crazy proposed laws in his state he's got several of those laws right here on this show one that would make the practice of shari'a law a felony equal to treason another bill would allow teachers to challenge evolution without fear of reprisal but the story that are in the bigger taglines of course though they don't say gay bill. no public elementary or middle school shall provide any instruction or material that discusses sexual orientation other than heterosexuality the man now a bill didn't pass this year nobody knows of lawmakers are just going to try again next year but this week a national newspaper asked governor hostler about the future of the don't say gay bill and apparently he's hoping the bill will just go away because of all the bad

p.r. that it's status take it but then he actually tried to blame the media for all of the bad publicity he said quote don't say gay is really sexy and yada yada yada it's not going anywhere who runs the student achievement district is huge but you'd be lucky to find it to paragraphs on that and the governor has a lot of his trying to deflect the attention from the real issue here he's playing the victim of the big bad needier he's indicated they came up with the don't say gave bill just to sell newspapers and for ratings points sorry that's not the case you're just pissed because your state became a punchline jokes if you're an openly gay actor george takei making money off of this proposed law you need to say the word. you can simply say to carry for example you could safely place your support of turkey in marriage if you're in a war that's the mood you can march in and take a pride parade in. even homophobic slurs don't seem as are full of someone says

that there's. now instead of worrying about all the bad p.r. in the late night jokes given her governor bill hospital should've told lawmakers they were just veto the don't say gay bill if it reaches debts but he wouldn't stand up to those in his own party and as a measurement for on this show well you may not like gay people and who they sleep with you can just wish them away you also can't blame the media the idiots in your state actually think the world works like that and that's why we're giving a republican tennessee governor bill haslam tonight's tools on award. are you guys it's time for happy hour tonight and joining me this evening us our chief producer jenny churchill and libby jacobson senior policy analyst for new media strategies public affairs ladies thank you for joining me. ok we often see

you know funny things that have been news stations but it's really funny when you watch like an anchor person thing it's not quite as funny when you realize that they just edited a video to go with their story and well it just really doesn't look like this one comes from chicago so here we're going to show you the clip of what actually aired and then we'll show you the real one. two teenagers are wounded on the city's south side happy seventy fourth is an eighteen year old man and sixteen year old girl were hit while standing on the sidewalk males in good condition while the girls expected to recover and kids on the street as young as four were there to see it all unfold and i disturb the reaction. tell her i'm not scared enough that when you get to the years three families guns will know you know what you want to do when you get older. ok from the way they aired a cute little black hair looks like you want to grow up going to want to have me

a gun listen to what he actually said. we won't do any good labor let me know your words are true this is not going to be good concrete. you know a little different when she say i want to go over to hug me a gun because they think he wants to be a gangster but he actually wants to be a cop and help police the story well it's really sad because obviously this reporter had an idea when he went out there of how he wanted to cover the story and he molded the soundbites to fit that story when in reality that little kid saying i want to be a police officer in my opinion is just as good of a story to say oh he's in it's crime in gangs and he still wants to be you know on the good side you know what kind of reporter or editor i suppose could take that adorable little kid and try to spin him as some kind of criminal but you know i know i can't also i can't believe that you know i'm sure his mother was furious when she saw the story because they need her four year old look like

a gang banger when he was talking about his dreams and aspirations us of him and of course permission for him to be on camera you have to ask and so that i've been pretty sure that wasn't what the mom was going for either which you know yes you can partake in the story now this is something that the reason did that everyone's talking about on t.v. because matt damon is defending teachers and a lot of people on either side of this debate take a look. there's an incentive to work hard and be a better actor because you want to have a job so why isn't it like that for a teacher it's not an incentive but something so you take this m.b.a. think you're right it's the problem with that policy right now is this intrinsically paternalistic you problems that are much more complex than that i mean why else would you take a salary and really long hours unless you really love to do. well the best part of course is when they go to good will hunting and they're just crying and hugging at the end there but you know this is

a debate that's been going on all across the country is it was should teachers have tenure shouldn't you have an incentive to want to work hard otherwise if you think you can't get fired you're not going to get libby i'm curious to get your take on the whole situation i. had of teachers in the family you have to be careful but what i say to make sure i still get invited home for the holidays but you know matt damon he's clearly an educated intelligent guy can string along multi-syllabic a lot of words like you say it intrinsically paternalistic. but basically what he says he doesn't just. exactly basically what he says is teachers really like their jobs but he didn't really address the question of great they like their jobs but is our education system actually pulling the goals that we wanted to achieve and that was the problem that i had i mean i'm sorry matt damon but that was a terrible argument your argument is that they love their job that's not the same as being a good teacher and informing generations of americans just because your glove something doesn't mean that you're good at lots of kids trying out for sports they

love and are terrible but they surely get trophies in this country. i'm sorry for your occasion we talk about this all the time although like i said some people david the reporter and. everyone super excited to talk about this issue because matt damon said something about the curse of celebrity always now this. just sometimes you look at these stories and it just makes you want to shake your head and think of how unfortunately laws created to protect certain things are just too big when they're actually you take a look a look in your oldest stiring veterinarian skyler cato's brain into action the second she learned that a baby woodpecker in her gad backyard was about to be eaten by the family cat the problem was that the woodpecker is a protected species under the federal migratory bird act which means if you're legal to take or transporting baby woodpecker. so basically what ended up happening

is they walked into a store with a family i think was a home depot and a woman came up pulled out her badge said this is illegal for you transporting it and now they're getting slapped with a five hundred thirty five dollars fine for trying to save a little with a cure for the big cat i think what we all just learned here was you don't intervene on a fight between two evils and clearly if a cat and a bird are fighting if you let them be and whoever you know the evil eye is that maybe it's to say you're going to watch them and let nature run its course. you know. you know. how do the birds and rescue you know really got to save the woodpecker just i did you know i did the entire point of this is that you just have to leave the bird in the car and like. a little kid with you why a bird was in the car what was with them at lowe's anyways if they were at home when they got the bird i thought they were going from point a to home maybe they were going to buy some bird seed feed whatever. you never know ok really quickly

this is. apparently but it was really popular on twitter and the former staffer said that he's actually been buying twitter for years for various agencies so it turns out the ninety two percent of his followers are fake i think it's i just love how everyone called out gawker saying that story's not true but they were right the story wasn't true they reported that eighty percent it was really ninety two percent were. ninety two i mean how many i. you know exactly how many followers he actually has paid it would be your faith yes i'll run what are you really a millionaire yeah yeah and people started getting suspicious because sarah palin only has like six hundred thousand and they thought that was a little strange when we know that nobody likes newt gingrich so that is a little who did not follow you know i mean it's just like there are hot girls doing odd things on twitter who don't have nearly as many followers as an old man who you know because newt gingrich give all men excuses to how to talk their way out of infidelity like our girl got her out of the things for joining me tonight

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