tv [untitled] August 3, 2011 1:30am-2:00am EDT
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welcome back here's a quick look at the main stories we're covering today on our t.v. the u.s. swallow selfmade a bitter pill to avert the devastating default but i expect say there is little hope for efficient economic recovery in the long term committed to conflicts around the world washington is left with limited resources to address the needs of americans back home. paul school was against calls at the u.n.
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to target the syrian regime urging for options a push the warring sides stored dialogue to be escalating violence in the country well this comes as a dozens more protestors were reportedly killed on choose a ball with more than one hundred deaths over the weekend. and six months after being toppled a former egyptian leader hosni mubarak is finally such a go want trial for the killing of protesters during the february uprising meantime ordinary egyptians feel the revolution the promise to bring change to the country has delivered a very little. and up next our special report on the iraq invasion and its aftermath revealing how the bush administration hoodwinked the american people into supporting an unnecessary war which claimed hundreds of thousands of lives so you stay with us for that. the weapons inspection process was little more than a game they conceal denied to see return of inspectors would provide no assurance whatsoever to eliminate by inspection is quite frankly
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a fool's errand on the contrary there is a great danger that it would provide false comfort that saddam was somehow back in his box reality is that between the original unscom inspections and the unmovic inspections you destroyed with those inspections ninety two probably ninety five percent of the iraqi arsenal the first gulf war destroyed almost nothing. and you know post-war u.s. spell damage assessments confirm the weapons inspectors were effective before saddam to get rid of stuff. they had a country under control by nine hundred ninety eight at the latest those inspectors had discovered the most of the weapons of mass destruction and the a rocky programs at that point were essentially at an end before the war in iraq the united nations inspectors told us. that that i'm going saying.
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did not have nuclear weapons capability ironically the major effect of the invasion of iraq in terms of weapons of mass destruction has to be to show that the inspectors were right all along the inspection regime worked. it was the most intrusive inspection regime in history and it worked at the end the day that's another reason why we went to war for no. these maniacs the courage of our enemies and weakening our troops' resolve and confusing the american people well you should listen to these protests because they're obviously hoping saddam hussein who would have guessed that you could build
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a massive international peace movement on the protection of saddam hussein the media is culpable for the misleading of the american public they've bought into the bush administration's rhetoric they don't understand that there was moral violence and immoral violence we use moral violence god bless this president he is truly a great man reducing troop morale confusing the american people involving our enemies they are absolutely committing said this you know treasonous far as i'm concerned is a huge difference between personal opinion and opinion which the grades and the bases are military in a time of war it's a disgrace i don't believe that mainstream media acted responsibly in regards to iraq you know i was a little i was called a traitor i was called crazy parlors on of c.n.n. accused me of drinking saddam hussein's cruelly for making accurate statements in response to aluminum tubes people out there accusing you of drinking saddam hussein of an idealogue and i'm a republican ideologue i'm actually
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a fairly conservative person who voted for george w. bush but i don't allow my ideology to get in the way of the facts and the reality of my duties and responsibilities as an american citizen the media is supposed to be the fourth estate but they decided to completely climb in bed with the administration on this in a way the administration constructed box were and that was that box had all the information it ministration wanted your community and the public and congress to care what they would do is you'd have the iraqi national congress. taking bogus defectors the information from him giving him to the pentagon and the iraqi national congress then giving them to the journalists and they said if you don't believe us iraqi national congress call the pentagon so we had a circular reporting and you had the new york times admitting that it was using one source for all of its information on weapons of mass destruction and it was self affirming by going to the pentagon which to put the stuff on paper it was served.
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one of exaggerations partial information sometimes the whole information but on balance a very one sided view of iraq study on the program and a lot of these stories the journalist didn't want to look into because the editors told them to run with we're going to be supportive of the administration it's a patriotic thing to do i think there was a part of me to too much of of in a sense getting into the upcoming war and not enough looking at can we really need to go there were some journalists out there raising the alarm bells the seymour hersh is the walter pincus of the world but unfortunately those great investigative reporters there are usually exiled when the heat is all and it was only after the fact that they end up being praised and given the pats on the back and the excitement was to make the case to go to war you know to show that you know that was the controversy to the media markets you know it was the to malaysian of i would tell you and d. here us not to not there to the ration of or the conflict of tacky ministration all
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to washington post new york times it very conservative editors that support of the white house and. the people of the united states and their friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an hour regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder his regime has an active program to acquire and develop nuclear weapons and let there be no doubt about it we know for a fact that there are weapons that are. there or a group of people who for many years had advocated going after saddam hussein and they push this hard and of course raw intelligence data can be interpreted in a lot of different places i'm sure experts who talk to you about. and so there were
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leafs only elite be an elite. athlete. why did he ministration so dramatically underestimate the cost of this war we did not have perfect foresight and who thought we were going to find in iraq. with the cost of the war rising and a search for weapons of mass destruction going nowhere the administration turns to david kay this work is being carried out into the direction of dr david kay a respected scientist and former u.n. inspector was leading the weapons search in iraq we are determined to take this apart you have
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a tremendous group of dedicated american men and women involved in this with the best assets of the intelligence community can provide. dr kay and his team are making progress we have had found a large body of continuing activities and equipment. we are surprised by new advances that we're making at work of laboratories and safe houses controlled by iraqi intelligence and security services and unlike pre-war intelligence we don't require someone just to say something we actually need the physical evidence equipment suitable for continuing chemical and biological weapons research. david kay instant not going to be done with this for quite some time david kay wants more time and he says it can take another six to nine months to make a definitive finding ministration is asking congress for hundreds of millions more six hundred million dollars to ponder continuing search we have not yet found shiny pointy things that i would call
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a weapon before we can draw from conclusions we need to let the iraq survey group complete its work. we were all wrong probably in my judgment and that is most disturbing. it's inevitable that there will be an outside commission appointed i mean the issue of this gravity the caring and we will get to the bottom of this and we will let the chips fall where they may democracy you have an obligation your obligation is to speak truthfully to the public that's the basis of civility in our belief in our system of government it is going to require an outside effort probably through an outside commission to deal with some of these very serious problems as i think explanations are important in a democracy this whole episode has caught the white house completely by surprise they've become so fearful of a knitting era that they stand up and defend things that only are face to face are
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untruthful president bush is being pounded with calls for an independent investigation into how u.s. intelligence so badly misjudged iraq's capabilities before the war had been present holding all the cards for you all the people having everybody accountable to him is a very fair if i would care to try to operationalize some of the comments i made about what was going wrong in iraq and so i said if you among other things that if you're going to do this you have to treat it like an intelligence problem and that is not go looking for hidden weapons but going looking for the people who would be associated with hidden weapons one of the first things that worried me was we had a big army running through iraq in march and april to be empty was not used against them. nor was it found. that's sort of remarkable if they had had large stockpiles i really believe in the jungle telegraph put the word out on the street let people know what you're about and what you have to offer and usually you'll get people coming to you around a weapons program if
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a weapons program exists you're going to find people people engaged in the production technology engineering design people involved in protecting the weapons people involved in moving them and people involved in preparing to use the weapons we found none of them we were running and so fewer and fewer leads but look profitable and a lot of evidence that stacked up to explain something other than large stockpiles of weapons this committee has a special responsibility to the men and women of our armed forces to look at the prewar intelligence because planning for military operations is policymakers take data they interpret threat they assess risk and you talk about it and how much more. is left out of the public white paper of the sea any of us feel that the evidence so far leads only to one conclusion. that what has happened was more than a failure of intelligence was
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a result of an appeal ation of the intelligence to justify a decision to go to war secret societies have their own rules and. secret societies generally don't feel an obligation to openly and democratically communiqué prime minister blair has set up a sit somewhere commission in great britain at his going to report back in july right ours are not going to be until march of two thousand and five five months after the presidential election should the american people have the benefit of the commission before the election well the reason why we gave the time is because we didn't want to be hurried this is a this is a a strategic look at the big picture look about the intelligence gathering capacities of the united states of america. if there are no weapons of mass destruction which there aren't if there are no ties with al-qaeda which they were and which they aren't maybe now there are then why do
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we go to war. well all you need do is go on the web and and download project for a new american century day you will find the illogical and strategic underpinnings for this policy which was rejected by george bush the first which is really kewl out of town in those days repeat came he had vowed policy of this government and was implemented starting with the war i felt in my last year in the pentagon that i felt and was that a great deal of contempt for the constraints on government that our constitution lays out. and i also felt that there was a contempt for the constitution and i only absorbed this sense of contempt by association with with some of the senior appointed civilians who are all neoconservatives who all believe in dominance who believe in preemption who believe
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in the military option as the first resort rather than the last resort very fixed indeed almost obsessive idea that in fact iraq is a major actor in the world and a probable threat possibly a deadly threat to the united states this is a group of people who are essentially believe that might makes right. that the united states at this stage of history has unchallengable power and therefore responsibility to use it to. make the world over. in the manner that we or rather i think it ought to be made over i think behind the basic neoconservative philosophy is a considerable arians that american interests are the primary. goal of all american foreign policy and they seem to have a really serious added i'll not be interested in listening to what other people say
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about this subject because i don't think it's an accident at all. so much of the justification turned out to be fallacious. misleading deliberately so they thought they had a place in history they were going to bring dad obviously a very dysfunctional arab peninsula as well as a rare and they were going to change history they believe they won the cold war. and they said i we won the cold war because we were tough but the soviet union we get tough with these people and they're going to become like us and it is fear to say the iraq war was a diversion from from the war on terrorism and certainly the people weren't paying as much attention to afghanistan as they should have and the resources that might have gone to afghanistan into being focused more on iraq if you if you attack another country with no justification people going to say women this isn't
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a war on terrorism this is a war on. this imperialism this is colonialism you know and this is why it's a distraction because you need the help of these people if you get this view that the cia and the f.b.i. are lurking around the bazaars in the souks the middle east and handcuffing people are assassinated just that's not where the world works you've got to have the help of the locals to testify these people and put them in jail or movement from because the only person saddam was a threat to at this point as we saw when the army co-ops was to iraq he didn't have weapons of mass destruction he wasn't scaring anybody certainly wasn't scaring the iranians or the turks for the saudis or anybody else it was a state it was on the verge of failure now it is a failed state failed states because terrorism you know you can name afghanistan lebannon somalia any time you can you create
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a vacuum it's where people flock to discontent it to fight of course and some of bin laden have been saying for years america wants it when they an arab country occupy an oil rich arab country. you've been saying this is part of his propaganda so what did we do after nine eleven we invade and oil rich a lot of pioneer oil rich arab country which was doing nothing to threaten us the only real connection is that having invaded iraq. we are very likely to make it a focus of terrorism we're likely to produce what the president has said iraq represents namely the central battlefield in the war on terrorism why because we've sent a lot of americans into a place where they're sitting ducks for people who think the only good american is a dead one.
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iraq cannot be governed by americans i don't care what the intention is i don't care if we truly want to build a democracy there it cannot be ruled by a foreign power the only tool in the tool box the bush administration as a military force military force is a very blunt instrument it just doesn't work we've created more terrorists in iraq and we haven't even solve the problem afghanistan one of the more ironic effect of the attack on iraq was. to buttress other countries in the conviction a pretty good famous remark by an indian general after the first gulf war when he said listen this war is that if you if you have to fight united states you better have nuclear weapons you don't want your president be seen as a hot dog and when when your president gets into a job soon gets in the back of a jet and lands on an aircraft carrier and then waddles out with this little straps
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between his legs and that's not when you want a sign of part of maturity and testosterone blasting through when you're talking about. things so fundamentally important as sending of nation to war and sending young men and women to their deaths there is a sense in washington now that you can't raise. objections to this because you're not supporting troops in the field i would i would rapidly point out that unlike almost anybody i know that holds office in this country i've had two sons in uniform both of whom have been in combat and so i don't have to take any nonsense from anybody nor will i mark twain's definition of patriotism is patriotism is supporting your country all the time. and your government when it deserves it well i don't think it's patriotic to stand by and remain silent while your country
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stumbles into a disaster of patriotism is the last refuge of sky. interests and i think these are scoundrels they have no argument now they have no defense for what they did the country is in a terrible international security situation and i think as terrorists so they're attacking the patriotism of others. i know that the insiders don't have it all right they make mistakes he is more likely he mistakes it more like it would be interesting if there is no criticism it was jefferson who said that our kind of government is not based on trust it's based on in fact suspicion to suggest that if you have a different viewpoint than any given an administration and or if you are not supporting the president and policies that may be highly erroneous i don't see that as patriotism at all in fact i would argue that. any patriot with integrity is going to speak out if he or she feels that that we're on the wrong course it's not
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unpatriotic to demand that congress uphold its constitutional responsibilities regarding the declaration of war it's not unpatriotic to be very upset vocally upset when congress abrogates this constitution responsibility by transferring the war powers of forty two the president had states as they did in october of two thousand and two thousand when you guys were work at nasa dot com i was out in iraq trying to get rid of saddam and i must kill for it and besides i was going to jail so it doesn't take a whole lot of courage for me to come out against the war and i did a pretty getting but i was studiously ignored when we did the first gulf war when i came out of baghdad in one thousand nine hundred one i met with president ited states i met with the senior leadership of both parties and one thing that sticks with me to this day is extent to which each one of them. explained to me and i'm very emotional terms the extent to which they had to plan their consciences
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. to come to an. susan on how to vote on the use of force authorization it had been a moral decision on their part it had been one that had kept them up at night is a thought to read through this we owe our soldiers our sailors our airmen and our marines nothing less before we send them and sometimes the true patriot takes the unpopular course but helps their country avoid mistakes and even if they can't persuade at least for me america is this amazing land of opportunity beauty of of idealism hope it is a beacon to the world it's a place and past a people and what infuriates me more than anything else is that this administration has systematically slandered by all the black and the image of america to our friends and allies around the world having the
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authority and the ability to go and wage war is a very very solemn for me and it needs to be done with care and with the liberation and with genuine forethought and i think that none of that was present in the lead up to this entire what we now call doing. when going up or has no clothes you have to have the presence of mind and the courage to stand up and say emperor has no clothes. were. regime a seeking nuclear bomb. these attempted to push especially to choose from and you weapons production.
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