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pm now here in moscow you without see a quick recap of the top stories now egypt's the deposed president hosni mubarak goes on trial in cairo charges of corruption and killing protesters in february his uprising meantime there was fatal clashes today outside the courthouse between his supporters and opponents. it's really begins crisis talks with the e.u. over its mounting debt problems talking concerns it could be on the path to
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a greece style bailout meanwhile spain's of prime minister delays is regulation to monitor the worsening fiscal crisis in his country. the u.n. security council is divided over syria western countries press for an outright condemnation of the syrian government for violence while russia says that could damage the road to peace and calls for more. and up next here on c it's a special report on the u.s. led invasion of iraq almost a decade ago and a blow by blow account of the war that is coming your way right now. weapons inspection process is little more than a game they can see all denied to see a return of inspectors would provide new assurance whatsoever to eliminate by inspection is quite frankly a fool's errand on the contrary there is a great danger that it would provide false comfort that saddam was somehow back in his box reality is that between the original unscom inspections and the unmovic
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inspections you destroyed with those inspections ninety probably ninety five percent of the iraqi arsenal the first gulf war destroyed almost nothing. and you know post-war us down damage assessments confirm the weapons inspectors were effective they forced saddam to get rid of stuff. they had a country under control by nine hundred ninety eight at the latest those inspectors had discovered the most of the weapons of mass destruction and the iraqi programs at that point were essentially at an end before the war in iraq the united nations inspectors told us. that saddam hussein. did not have nuclear weapons capability ironically the major fact of the invasion of iraq and terms of weapons of mass destruction as the bit has been to show that
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the inspectors were right all along the inspection regime worked. it was the most intrusive inspection regime in history and it worked i think in the day that's another reason why we went to war. these maniacs the courage of our enemies weakening our troops resolve and confusing the american people you should listen to these protests because there was the whole thing saddam hussein who would have guessed that you could build a massive international peace movement on the protection of saddam hussein the media is culpable for the misleading of the american public they bought into the bush administration's rhetoric they don't understand that there is moral violence
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and immoral violence we use moral violence god bless this president he is truly a great man reducing troop morale confusing the american people involving our enemies they are absolutely committing sedition or treasonous far as i'm concerned there's a huge difference between personal opinion and opinion which the grades and the bases are military to time of war it's a disgrace i don't believe that mainstream media acted responsibly in regards to iraq you know i was be little i was called a traitor i was called crazy palos on of c.n.n. accused me of drinking saddam hussein's kool-aid for making accurate statements in response to aluminum tubes people out there accusing you of drinking saddam hussein's co i thought of an idealogue that i'm a republican idealogue i'm actually a fairly conservative person who voted for george w. bush but i don't allow my ideology to get in the way of the facts and the reality of my duties and responsibilities as an american citizen to media supposed to be the fourth estate but they decided to completely climb in bed with the administration on this in
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a way the administration constructed box were and that was that box had all the information that they were going to stray she wanted to hear the media and republican congress what they would do is you'd have the iraqi national congress. taking bogus defectors the information from them giving them to the pentagon and the iraqi national congress then giving them to the journalists and they said if you don't believe us iraqi national congress call the pentagon so you have this circular reporting and you have the new york times admitting that it was using one source for all of its information and weapons of mass destruction and it was as you know self affirming by going to the pentagon which to put this stuff on paper it was a lot of exaggerations partial information sometimes the whole information but on balance a very one sided view of iraq's w m d program and a lot of these stories the journalist didn't want to look into because the editors
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told him to run with were going to be supportive of the administration it's a patriotic thing to do i think there was a part of media too much of of in a sense getting into the upcoming war and not enough look at do we really need to go there were some journalists out there raising the alarm bells the seymour hersh is the walter pincus of the world but unfortunately those great investigative reporters there are usually exiled when the heat is on and it's only after the fact that they end up being praised and given the pats on the back the excitement was to make the case to go to war you know to show that you know that was the controversy that the media barked his you know it was the titillation of a w m d hideous not that not the titillation of or the conflict of attacking administration both the washington post the new york times it very conservative editors in support of the white house on this.
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please the people of the united states and the friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an hour regime that's read as the peace with weapons of mass murder his regime has an active program to acquire and develop nuclear weapons and let there be no doubt about it we know for a fact that there are weapons there. there were a group of people for many years had advocated going after saddam hussein and they pushed this hard and of course raw intelligence data can be interpreted in a lot of different places i'm sure experts and so i feel proud and so there were a group of people i think that were adamant that this was the right course to pursue the.
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why did the administration so dramatically underestimate the cost of this war we did not have perfect foresight into what we were going on in iraq. with the costs of the war rising and the search for weapons of mass destruction going nowhere he administration turns to david kay as we're just being carried out into the direction of dr david kay respected scientist and former u.n. inspector was leading the weapon search in iraq we are determined to take this apart you have a tremendous group of dedicated american men and women involved in this with the best assets of the intelligence community and provide dr kay and his team are making progress we have had found a large body of continuing activities and equipment.
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we are surprised by new advances that we're making that work good laboratories and safe houses controlled by iraqi intelligence and security services and unlike pre-war intelligence we don't require someone just to say something we actually need the physical evidence equipment suitable for continuing chemical and biological weapons research. david kay instant not going to be done with this for quite some time david kay wants more time and he says it could take another six to nine months to make a definitive finding ministration is asking congress for hundreds of millions more six hundred million dollars to ponder continuing search you have not yet balance shiny pointy things that i would call a weapon before we can draw from conclusions from the let the iraq survey group complete its work. we were all wrong probably in my judgment. and that is most disturbing. it's
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inevitable that there will be an outside commission appointed on an issue of this gravity the caring and we will get to the bottom of this and we will let the chips fall where they make democracy you have an obligation your obligation is to speak truthfully to the public that's a basis of civility in our belief in our system of government it is going to require an outside air for probably through an outside commission to deal with some of these very serious problems is i think explanations are important i'm ocracy this whole episode has caught the white house completely by surprise they've become so fearful of a knitting era that they stand up and defend things that i'll never face to face our untruthful president bush is being pounded with calls for an independent investigation into how u.s. intelligence so badly misjudged iraq's capabilities before the war having a presence holding all the cards pointing all the people having everybody accountable to him is
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a very bad if i would care to try to operationalize some of the comments i made about what was going wrong in iraq and so i said if you among other things that if you're going to do this you have to treat it like an intelligence problem and that is not go looking for hidden weapons but going looking for the people who would be associated with hidden weapons one of the first things that worried me was we had a big army running through iraq in march and april. the b.m.d. would not used against them. nor was it found that sort of remarkable if they'd had large stockpiles i really believe in the jungle telegraph put the word out on the street let people know what you're about what you have to offer and usually you'll get people coming to you around a weapons program of a weapons program exists you're going to find people people engaged in the production of technology engineering design people involved in protecting the weapons people involved in moving them and people involved in preparing to use the
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weapons we found none of them we were running and fewer and fewer leads but look profitable and a lot of evidence that stacked up to explain something other than large stockpiles of problems this committee has a special responsibility to the men and women of our armed forces to look at the prewar intelligence because planning for military operations his policy makers take data they interpret threat they assess risk and you talk. and how much more you do is read. it's left out of the public light keeper of the ca atmosphere with the evidence so far leads only to one conclusion. but what has happened was more than a failure of intelligence was a result of unit lation of the intelligence to justify decision to go to war secret societies have their own rules. of secret societies generally don't feel an obligation to openly and democratically communiqué prime minister blair has set up
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a similar commission in great britain at his going to report back in july right here is not going to be until march of two thousand and five five months after the presidential election should the american people have the benefit of the commission before the election well the reason why we behave the time is because we didn't want to be hurried this is a this is a a strategic look at the big picture look about the intelligence gathering capacities of the united states of america. if there are no weapons of mass destruction which there aren't if there are no ties with al-qaeda which they were and which they aren't maybe now there are. then why do we go to war. well all you need do is go on the web and and download project for a new american century day you will find the media logical and the strategic
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underpinnings put this policy which was rejected by george bush the first which is really kewl out of town in those days but became the it out policy of this government and was implemented starting with the war i felt in my last year in the pentagon that i felt there was a great deal of contempt for the constraints on government now our constitution lays out. and i also felt that there was a contempt for the constitution and i only absorb this sense of contempt by association with with some of the so senior appointed civilians who are all neoconservatives who all believe in dominance who believe in preemption who believe in the military option as the first resort rather than the last resort they have a very fixed indeed almost obsessive idea that in fact iraq is a major actor in the world and a probable threat possibly
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a deadly threat to the united states this is a group of people who are essentially believe that might makes right. that the united states at this stage of history has unchallengeable power and therefore responsibility to use it to. make the world over. the manner that we rather think it ought to be made over i think behind the basic neoconservative philosophy is a considerable arkan's that american interests are the primary. goal of all american foreign policy and they seem to have got a really serious habit of not being interested in listening to what other people say about this subject so i don't think it's an accident at all. so much of the justification turned out to me foolishness. misleading deliberately
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so they thought they had a place in history they were going to bring dad obviously a fairy dysfunctional arab peninsula as well as a rat and they were going to change history they believe they won the cold war. and they said i we won the cold war because we were tough with the soviet union we get tough with these people and they're going to become like us and use fear to say that the iraq war was a diversion from from the war on terrorism and certainly meant that people weren't paying as much attention to afghanistan as they should have and the resources that might have gone to afghanistan and ended up being focused more on iraq if you if you attack another country with no justification people going to say women this isn't a war on terrorism this is a war on. this imperialism this is colonialism you know and this is why it's a distraction because you need the help of these people if you get this view that
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the cia and the f.b.i. are lurking around the bazaars in the suits the middle east and handcuffing people or sasson is just that's not where the world works you've got to have the help of the locals could benefit of these people and put them in jail or a movement from the only person saddam was a threat to at this point as we saw when the army call aps was to iraq you know weapons of mass destruction he wasn't scaring anybody certainly wasn't scaring the iranians or the turks for the saudis or anybody else it was a state it was on the verge of failure now it is a failed state failed states because terrorism you know you can name afghanistan lebannon somalia any time you go you create a vacuum it's where people flock to discontent to fight wars and some of bin laden has been saying for years america wants to win they an arab country occupy and oil
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rich arab country. you've been saying this is part of his propaganda so what did we do after nine eleven we invade and oil rich and occupy an oil rich arab country which was doing nothing to threaten us the only real connection is that having invaded iraq. we are very likely to make it a focus of terrorism we're likely to produce what the president has said iraq represents namely the central battlefield in the war on terrorism why because we've sent a lot of americans into a place where they're sitting ducks for people who think the only good american is a dead one. on the. iraq cannot be covered by americans ok what the intention is i don't care if we truly want to build a democracy there it cannot be ruled by
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a foreign power the only tool in the tool box the bush administration is a military force a military force is a very blunt instrument it just doesn't work we've created more terrorists in iraq and we had it even solve the problem afghanistan one of the more ironic effects of the attack on iraq was. to buttress other countries in the conviction that they in famous remark but only in general after the first gulf war and he said listen this war is that if you if you have to fight united states you better have nuclear weapons you don't want your president to be seen as a hot dog and when when your president gets into a job suit gets in the back of a jet and lands on an aircraft carrier and then waddles out with this little straps between his legs and that's not when you want a sign of kind of maturity and testosterone blasting through when you're talking about. things so fundamentally important as sending
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a vacation to war and sending young men and women to their deaths there is a sense in washington now that you can't raise. objections to this because you're not supporting troops in the field i would i would rapidly point out unlike almost anybody i know that holds office in this country i have two sons in uniform both of whom have been in combat and so i don't have to take any nonsense from anybody nor will i mark twain's definition of patriotism and patriotism is supporting your country all the time. and your government when it deserves it well i don't think it's patriotic to stand by and remain silent while your country stumbles into disaster or patriotism is the last refuge scoundrels of. interests and i think these are scoundrels they have no argument now they have no defense for what they did the country is in a terrible international security situation but i think it's perilous so they're
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attacking the patriotism of others. i know that the insiders don't write it make mistakes he is more likely to be mistakes it's more like the minister if there is no criticism there was jefferson who said and then there are kind of government is not based on trust it's based on in fact suspicion to suggest that if you have a different viewpoint than any given an administration or if you are not supporting the president and policies that may be highly erroneous i don't see that as patriotism at all in fact i would argue that. any patriot with integrity is going to speak out if he or she feels that that we're on the wrong course it's not unpatriotic that the man that congress upholds its constitutional responsibility regarding the declaration of war it's not unpatriotic to be very upset vocally upset when congress abrogates this constitution responsibility by transferring the
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war powers forward to the present i'd states as they did in october of two thousand and two when you guys were work at nasa dot com i was out in iraq trying to get rid of saddam and i almost got killed for it and besides i was going to jail so it doesn't take a whole lot of courage for me to come out against the war and i did at the beginning but i was studiously ignored when we did the first gulf war when i came out of baghdad in one thousand nine hundred one i met with president ited states i met with the senior leadership of both parties and one thing that sticks with me to this day is extent to which each one of them. explained to me in very emotional terms the extent to which the it had to plan their consciences. to come to the. solution how to vote on the use of force authorization it had been a moral decision on their part it had been one that had kept them up at night to say thought their way through us we owe our soldiers our sailors our airmen and our
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marines nothing less before we send them back sometimes the true patriot takes the unpopular course but helps their country avoid mistakes and even if they can't persuade at least they tried for me america has this amazing land of opportunity of beauty of idealism hope it is a beacon to the world it's a place of fantastic people and what infuriates me more than anything else is that this is ministration has systematically slandered why all the black and the image of america to our friends and allies around the world having the authority and the ability to go and wage war is a very very strong feeling and he needs to be done with care and with deliberation and with genuine forethought and i think that none of that was present in
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a weed up to this entire bottle what we now call undoing freedom when going up or has no clothes you have to have the presence of mind and the courage to stand up and say it perhaps not pose. regime is seeking a nuclear bomb. is attempting to purchase which treatment to use for me you weapons production. material suspicious just thirty eight thousand liters. but she says.
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saddam hussein an advanced nuclear weapons development program. the british government is one saddam hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from africa. over a decade and. the last time the close of team was in the cool gum region where men flock from all over the world caught a few centimeters to sell conflicts this time largely goes to the amore region.
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for the cold war still gets people like took an ancient tribe likes to save its culture the for claims of protected in the first of the official major risks of the alamo region. was a close up on the marquee. player . because it was going to. say. this is true still keeps its secrets but now it's time some feel that the soviet files on the autopsy took.
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